uiowebae Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 after looking around for i know im going have to get down and dirty, is there a step by step guide out there on how to fix this issue using cs or can someone add little more depth to the methods expand in following archives? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24631-yet-another-problem-concerning-xeo-stuff/?hl=%2Bgoogly+%2Beyes&do=findComment&comment=632890 and http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21857-question-about-bashed-patch-race-records/?hl=%2Bgoogly+%2Beyes thanks in advice
varenne Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 There is no step-by-step that I'm aware of. Also you need to provide a bit more details in exactly which MODs and races you are experiencing this with. You'll need that information anyways if you actually plan on fixing this. Usually it happens when you use the older versions of MBP, best to use the OMOD version as it is the least problematic for most noobies. Next, if you also are trying to install XEO, this again may change the paths to eye textures for some races, due to them using differing eye nif models. First make sure to follow the XEO installation and setup instructions on that page to the letter. Any missed or skipped steps can lead to issues. And last, in CS you would need to find which of the MODs, based on which races you are having issues with, so you can edit the path for the eye nif model or textures. Click on Character in the top menu bar, then select Race... A new Race window will open and you need to navigate or scroll to the race or races that are at issue. Once there select the Face data tab. At the very bottom are the eye nif model paths for that race. Some races use the same eye nif model, so once you fix one, others that use that same model will also be fixed. You may also need to open the nif model file using NifSkope and review the texture path there and edit it, or edit where you install the textures for that model. It all depends on how you'd like to address this too; some are modifying where the nif eye models point to textures as their own personal customization.
d4nt320 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 this mod is not supposed to use like that but also works well for that too. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/5097/? this is for googly eyes http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37265/? remember to use one or other no the two of them
uiowebae Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 There is no step-by-step that I'm aware of. Also you need to provide a bit more details in exactly which MODs and races you are experiencing this with. You'll need that information anyways if you actually plan on fixing this. Usually it happens when you use the older versions of MBP, best to use the OMOD version as it is the least problematic for most noobies. Next, if you also are trying to install XEO, this again may change the paths to eye textures for some races, due to them using differing eye nif models. First make sure to follow the XEO installation and setup instructions on that page to the letter. Any missed or skipped steps can lead to issues. And last, in CS you would need to find which of the MODs, based on which races you are having issues with, so you can edit the path for the eye nif model or textures. Click on Character in the top menu bar, then select Race... A new Race window will open and you need to navigate or scroll to the race or races that are at issue. Once there select the Face data tab. At the very bottom are the eye nif model paths for that race. Clipboard-1.jpg Some races use the same eye nif model, so once you fix one, others that use that same model will also be fixed. You may also need to open the nif model file using NifSkope and review the texture path there and edit it, or edit where you install the textures for that model. It all depends on how you'd like to address this too; some are modifying where the nif eye models point to textures as their own personal customization. ah, sorry about that i forgot to add that part about xeo and mbp, both i used the aio omod(for mbp) i found here and follow everything to the t for xeo i found here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/9-xeo-archived-posts/ i'm running xeorc4, so far i have some with few tips found laying around on here and nexus and somethings i tried myself like using the batch patch tweaks for grouping similar eyes to fix a bit of the issue ill try using nifskope (and cs again) let me know if you need my load order even thought i don't think a load out issue.
gregathit Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 XeoRC4 is not really compatible with MBP, so you will end up having to do some work with either TES4edit or the CS. That is the whole reason XeoSP++ was created, to avoid the conflicts.
varenne Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Yeah, ditto on what gregathit posted above. I did awhile back get XeoRC4 to work but as I recall it was hours of troubleshooting work. Better to use XeoSP++ as it is far easier than going into CS and Nifskope to fix the individual issues. The root cause of these issues is the differing file paths MBP vs. older XEO and different textures for eye nifs, as I recall.
uiowebae Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 XeoRC4 is not really compatible with MBP, so you will end up having to do some work with either TES4edit or the CS. That is the whole reason XeoSP++ was created, to avoid the conflicts. Yeah, ditto on what gregathit posted above. I did awhile back get XeoRC4 to work but as I recall it was hours of troubleshooting work. Better to use XeoSP++ as it is far easier than going into CS and Nifskope to fix the individual issues. The root cause of these issues is the differing file paths MBP vs. older XEO and different textures for eye nifs, as I recall. thanks you two ill get to turning off XeoRC4 (if not out right get rid of it) just one more thing to ask dose xeo 5 have any problems with mbp? as i know i have it and don't want to go looking around for another copy of xeosp++.
uiowebae Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 this mod is not supposed to use like that but also works well for that too. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/5097/? this is for googly eyes http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37265/? remember to use one or other no the two of them ah i must of miss some thing when trying them before hand ill just try one or there other again if i must.
gregathit Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 No reason to go looking for XeoSP++ as it is right here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/
uiowebae Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 No reason to go looking for XeoSP++ as it is right here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/ damn your on top of things like all ways greg thanks as always
uiowebae Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 got some of the eyes to work again however too many races still have the googly eye problem to even list ill just post my load order for the hell of it 00 Oblivion.esm01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm02 x117race.esm03 Lovers with PK.esm04 BreakUndies.esm05 TamagoClub.esm06 HiyokoClub.esm07 LoversCreature.esm08 EURN.esm09 Chanpon.esm0A wolfzqraceEV.esm [Version 0.816]0B wolfzqraceEV85.esm [Version 0.85]0C wolfzqcustom85EV.esm [Version 0.85EV]0D Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]0E CM Partners.esm0F CustomSpellIcons.esm10 EURN.esp [Version 0.9b]11 NPCTest.esp12 OBSE Test Plugin.esp13 Crowded Cities 15.esp14 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]15 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]16 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]17 Wrye Morph Keys.esp [Version 24]18 Wrye Morph, X6.esp [Version 29]19 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]1A Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp [Version 1.0]1B FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp1C Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.5]1D UOPS Additional Changes.esp1E DLCShiveringIsles.esp1F AddActorValues_example.esp20 LIPTemplate.esp21 MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp22 FormID Finder4.esp23 DLCHorseArmor.esp24 DLCOrrery.esp25 DLCVileLair.esp26 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp27 DLCSpellTomes.esp28 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp29 VipCxjHHTest.esp2A TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp2B DLCThievesDen.esp2C Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp2D DLCBattlehornCastle.esp2E DLCFrostcrag.esp2F Knights.esp30 The Lost Spires.esp31 HackdirtAlive.esp32 CoverYourself.esp33 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp34 TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp35 TamagoPlayerHUD.esp [Version 2.0]36 TamagoBreak.esp37 TamagoNews.esp38 TamagoShop.esp39 TamagoTopic.esp3A TamagoConfide.esp3B LoversTamagoClub.esp3C TamagoDischarge.esp3D LoversHiyokoShooter.esp3E LoversHypnosis.esp3F LoversImmoralGuards.esp40 LoversEncounter.esp41 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5]42 MCS extension.esp43 HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp44 HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y]45 HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp46 HiyokoQuestTarget.esp47 LoversCalm.esp48 LoversChildDataBase.esp [Version 1.03]++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Spire Revisited.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76]** Knights Vwalk.esp49 TamagoSetBody.esp4A LoversSetScale.esp4B LoversAphrodisia.esp4C LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp4D LoversClubCats.esp4E LoversClubCatsSx.esp4F LoversDRader.esp50 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp51 LoversBiko.esp52 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp53 LoversTachiCat2.esp54 LoversRaperS.esp55 LoversChorus.esp56 LoversJoburg.esp57 LoversJealousy.esp58 LoversSlavePlay.esp59 LoversBed.esp5A LoversLoveJuice.esp5B LoversLoveMucus.esp++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp** MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]++ NoWeightLimit.esp** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]++ Pelham-LostSpires-Fix.esp++ Sexy Robes And Hats.esp** The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp++ TribalOrc.esp++ Wrye Morph Wearable.esp [Version 19]5C PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.691.esp5D LoversPayBandit.esp5E LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2]5F Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5]60 LoversBitch.esp61 LoversCreature.esp62 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3]63 LoversOrgy.esp64 LoversBackup2.esp65 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0]66 LoversProstitute.esp67 LoversRapeSlave.esp68 LoversMagic.esp69 LoversUnicorn.esp6A LoversLight.esp6B LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp6C LoversSlaveTrader.esp6D LSTBravilUnderground.esp6E LoversGGBlackmail.esp6F LoversImmoralSisters.esp70 zBUArmors.esp71 RingofMara.esp72 LoversCrowningIsle.esp73 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp74 TamagoFertilityClinic.esp75 Nudeshy X.esp76 SetBody.esp77 Mighty Magick - Races.esp78 UChainBeast.esp79 zzEstrus.esp7A ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp7B CM Partners.esp7C Trokturian Cow.esp7D LoversStupidNpc.esp7E Beautiful People.esp7F AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp80 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp81 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable AGS Hair.esp82 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Corean Hair + Saram Hair + AGS Hair.esp83 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Corean Hair + Saram Hair.esp84 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Corean Hair.esp85 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Saram Hair.esp86 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp87 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp88 Demoness.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed + Glow Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp** CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp** CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp** CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp** CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp** CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp** CM Partners Vwalk.esp++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp** DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp++ x117Race ENG Race.esp** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp89 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp8A DemonRaceMeatsuit.esp8B Nona.esp8C Lovers_ChildRaceType.esp8D Lovers_ChildRaceNPC.esp8E x117race.esp8F Lop-ears Elf.esp90 Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp91 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]92 Werewolf.esp93 UnlimitedBladeWorks_Fakers.esp94 slimfacex105.esp95 xlds.esp96 wolfzqsuccubusEV22.esp [Version 0.22]97 wolfzqmylover85EV.esp [Version 0.85]98 wolfzqcursed85EV.esp [Version 0.85EV]99 wolfzqTentacle85EV.esp [Version 0.85EV]9A CM Nona.esp9B OCR Dark Elf.esp9C OCR Breton.esp9D OCR Argonian.esp9E OCR High Elf.esp9F OCR Daedra.espA0 OCR Redguard.espA1 OCR Orc.espA2 KT_CustomRaceFix.espA3 ChanponSimpleDef.espA4 CM Partners Special NPCs.espA5 CM Partners NPC.espA6 CM Partners More NPCs.espA7 CM Partners Marker NPCs.espA8 CM Partners Extra NPCs.espA9 TeddyChest.espAA Secret Sancuary v0.04.espAB Zodiac Companions.espAC BitchTattoo.espAD Body Writing.espAE zzEstrusCleaner.espAF user29sMaternityClothes.espB0 BU_Disabler.espB1 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.espB2 BreakArmor.esp [Version 1.10.f]B3 KanshouBakuya.espB4 Nudeshy Undergarments.espB5 nudeshyceadb.espB6 FuroGeneratorTrap.espB7 LoversAchievments.esp++ PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp++ PSE-HackdirtAlive-Patch.espB8 LoversBreakArmor.espB9 LoversStopSweetDeath.espBA LoversVimVigorFix.espBB LoversStupidNpcTrokCow.espBC LSTaddonoutH.espBD LoversStalkerM.espBE PEM_LoversTools withDB.esp [Version 1.1]BF LoversCreatureCompanion.espC0 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]C1 ElaborateEyes.espC2 Bashed Patch, 0.espC3 LoversMB2.espC4 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.espC5 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.espC6 Lovers3dorgasm.espC7 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.espC8 xeosp++.espC9 xeosp++ Vwalk.esp
kingkong Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 you might just have a conflict with mbp.esm and ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp and a bash patch you can not just uncheck the mod you need also to redo a bash patch
uiowebae Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 you might just have a conflict with mbp.esm and ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp and a bash patch you can not just uncheck the mod you need also to redo a bash patch as in make a new one? edit: still getting the the eyes even after turning off both elaorate eyes mods and taking them out of the bash patch. a part me is starting to think its has to with Trokturian Cow.esp as it seems to only happening to some "custom" races or altered versions of the vanilla races (imperial 3 and child, lolita, eta) heres my load out as be on the safe side. 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 Lovers with PK.esm 04 BreakUndies.esm 05 TamagoClub.esm 06 HiyokoClub.esm 07 LoversCreature.esm 08 EURN.esm 09 Chanpon.esm 0A wolfzqraceEV.esm [Version 0.816] 0B wolfzqraceEV85.esm [Version 0.85] 0C wolfzqcustom85EV.esm [Version 0.85EV] 0D xeoracex117.esm 0E xeorace.esm 0F Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 10 CM Partners.esm 11 CustomSpellIcons.esm 12 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.5] 13 UOPS Additional Changes.esp 14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.3] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp 15 EURN.esp [Version 0.9b] 16 FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp 17 NPCTest.esp 18 OBSE Test Plugin.esp 19 Crowded Cities 15.esp 1A Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 1B Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 1C Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] 1D Wrye Morph Keys.esp [Version 24] 1E Wrye Morph, X6.esp [Version 29] 1F Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] 20 Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp [Version 1.0] 21 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 22 AddActorValues_example.esp 23 LIPTemplate.esp 24 MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp 25 FormID Finder4.esp 26 DLCHorseArmor.esp 27 DLCOrrery.esp 28 DLCVileLair.esp 29 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 2A DLCSpellTomes.esp 2B VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 2C VipCxjHHTest.esp 2D TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp 2E DLCThievesDen.esp 2F Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp 30 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 31 DLCFrostcrag.esp 32 Knights.esp 33 The Lost Spires.esp 34 HackdirtAlive.esp 35 CoverYourself.esp 36 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 37 TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp 38 TamagoPlayerHUD.esp [Version 2.0] 39 TamagoBreak.esp 3A TamagoNews.esp 3B TamagoShop.esp 3C TamagoTopic.esp 3D TamagoConfide.esp 3E LoversTamagoClub.esp 3F TamagoDischarge.esp 40 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 41 LoversHypnosis.esp 42 LoversImmoralGuards.esp 43 LoversEncounter.esp 44 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 45 MCS extension.esp 46 HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp 47 HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] 48 HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp 49 HiyokoQuestTarget.esp 4A LoversCalm.esp 4B LoversChildDataBase.esp [Version 1.03] ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Spire Revisited.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] ** Knights Vwalk.esp 4C TamagoSetBody.esp 4D LoversSetScale.esp 4E LoversAphrodisia.esp 4F LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp 50 LoversClubCats.esp 51 LoversClubCatsSx.esp 52 LoversDRader.esp 53 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 54 LoversBiko.esp 55 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 56 LoversTachiCat2.esp 57 LoversRaperS.esp 58 LoversChorus.esp 59 LoversJoburg.esp 5A LoversJealousy.esp 5B LoversSlavePlay.esp 5C LoversBed.esp 5D LoversLoveJuice.esp 5E LoversLoveMucus.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp ** MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] ++ NoWeightLimit.esp ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp ** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] ++ Pelham-LostSpires-Fix.esp ++ Sexy Robes And Hats.esp ** The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp ++ TribalOrc.esp ++ Wrye Morph Wearable.esp [Version 19] 5F PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.691.esp 60 LoversPayBandit.esp 61 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] 62 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 63 LoversBitch.esp 64 LoversCreature.esp 65 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 66 LoversOrgy.esp 67 LoversBackup2.esp 68 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 69 LoversProstitute.esp 6A LoversRapeSlave.esp 6B LoversMagic.esp 6C LoversUnicorn.esp 6D LoversLight.esp 6E LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 6F LoversSlaveTrader.esp 70 LSTBravilUnderground.esp 71 LoversGGBlackmail.esp 72 LoversImmoralSisters.esp 73 zBUArmors.esp 74 RingofMara.esp 75 LoversCrowningIsle.esp 76 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp 77 TamagoFertilityClinic.esp 78 Nudeshy X.esp 79 SetBody.esp 7A Mighty Magick - Races.esp 7B UChainBeast.esp 7C zzEstrus.esp 7D CM Partners.esp 7E Trokturian Cow.esp 7F LoversStupidNpc.esp 80 Beautiful People.esp 81 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp 82 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 83 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable AGS Hair.esp 84 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Corean Hair + Saram Hair + AGS Hair.esp 85 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Corean Hair + Saram Hair.esp 86 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Corean Hair.esp 87 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Saram Hair.esp 88 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp 89 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp 8A Demoness.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed + Glow Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ** CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp ** CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp ** CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp ** CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp ** CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp ** CM Partners Vwalk.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp ** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 8B Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 8C DemonRaceMeatsuit.esp 8D Nona.esp 8E Lovers_ChildRaceType.esp 8F Lovers_ChildRaceNPC.esp 90 x117race.esp 91 Lop-ears Elf.esp 92 Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp 93 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] 94 Werewolf.esp 95 UnlimitedBladeWorks_Fakers.esp 96 slimfacex105.esp 97 xlds.esp 98 wolfzqsuccubusEV22.esp [Version 0.22] 99 wolfzqmylover85EV.esp [Version 0.85] 9A wolfzqcursed85EV.esp [Version 0.85EV] 9B wolfzqTentacle85EV.esp [Version 0.85EV] 9C CM Nona.esp 9D OCR Dark Elf.esp 9E OCR Breton.esp 9F OCR Argonian.esp A0 OCR High Elf.esp A1 OCR Daedra.esp A2 OCR Redguard.esp A3 OCR Orc.esp A4 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp A5 ChanponSimpleDef.esp A6 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp A7 CM Partners NPC.esp A8 CM Partners More NPCs.esp A9 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp AA CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp AB TeddyChest.esp AC Secret Sancuary v0.04.esp AD Zodiac Companions.esp AE BitchTattoo.esp AF Body Writing.esp B0 zzEstrusCleaner.esp B1 user29sMaternityClothes.esp B2 BU_Disabler.esp B3 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp B4 BreakArmor.esp [Version 1.10.f] B5 KanshouBakuya.esp B6 Nudeshy Undergarments.esp B7 nudeshyceadb.esp B8 FuroGeneratorTrap.esp B9 LoversAchievments.esp ++ PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp ++ PSE-HackdirtAlive-Patch.esp BA LoversBreakArmor.esp BB LoversStopSweetDeath.esp BC LoversVimVigorFix.esp BD LoversStupidNpcTrokCow.esp BE LSTaddonoutH.esp BF LoversStalkerM.esp C0 PEM_LoversTools withDB.esp [Version 1.1] C1 LoversCreatureCompanion.esp C2 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] C3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp C4 xeosp++.esp C5 xeosp++ Vwalk.esp C6 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp C7 LoversMB2.esp C8 Lovers3dorgasm.esp C9 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp CA LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
varenne Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Based on memory of my current build, you have way too many MBP eye MODs in play: ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed + Glow Eyes.esp++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed.esp And you should take a quick look at the often pointed to link for recommended LO when it comes to MODs; some of your LO for MBP is IMO still out of wack. It may also require that you do a purge of your previous file directory (specific sub directories, not everything) to correct locations of nifs/textures. It's late so I'll try posting what I have set up some time tomorrow. I have no eye issues whatsoever.
uiowebae Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 Based on memory of my current build, you have way too many MBP eye MODs in play: ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes + Odd Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Glow Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes + One Eyed.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable Odd Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed + Glow Eyes.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable One Eyed.esp And you should take a quick look at the often pointed to link for recommended LO when it comes to MODs; some of your LO for MBP is IMO still out of wack. It may also require that you do a purge of your previous file directory (specific sub directories, not everything) to correct locations of nifs/textures. It's late so I'll try posting what I have set up some time tomorrow. I have no eye issues whatsoever. well as im a "lazy as all hell" it would make life easier if someone posted a ideal load order that i can copy paste in nmm (ya just found this not long ago but just copying and pasting a load order with just GameMode=Oblivion or what ever game at the top and it will order as is per the clipboard or even text doc a lot more clean then using boss or loot) but i know the example load out all too well and even used it as to fix things via nmm's import from clipboard feature, for now ill try turning the listed mods off for now update edit: turned off said mods and a lot of the eyes are working again but now there are are ones that are not only googly but are missing(can see the other side via character creation) or have to no textures(black eyes) and to add to this some have eye and head proportion issues (eyes are are too far down in the head and such or the head clips the hair because it so big or even you can see some of the fangs or such) and while not too big of issue there seems to a race missing forgot the name ill get back on the name another time
varenne Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 There is an example LO right here!: Example Load order (And just a personal note, being "lazy as all hell" ain't gonna cut it in Oblivion.) Moving on... Your LO is going to be different from just about everyone elses, totally dependent on which MODs you've installed. Near impossible to post something that you can just cut & paste. Very few here use NMM, I certainly don't. Here's my current LO in regards to MBP MODs I'm using, as another example for you to develop your own: LO (Not all MODs are active.) * 00 Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5] * 01 Lovers with PK.esm [CRC: 6E3EC269]* 02 TamagoClub.esm [CRC: E1496B18]* 03 HiyokoClub.esm [CRC: 4072B9BF]* 04 LoversCreature.esm [CRC: 36E038A3]* 05 CM Partners.esm [CRC: FE525BB3]* 06 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm [CRC: 91BD5893]* 07 x117race.esm [CRC: EB24F47A]* 08 Chanpon.esm [CRC: 91260723]* 09 Hair Style Master.esm [CRC: 14DB1369]* 0A AIRrace Evy.esm [CRC: EF157B36]* 0B FFRace.esm [CRC: 4463693C]* ** Better Looking NPC.esp [CRC: 51C5C026]* 0C Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 132D0261]* ** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp [CRC: D3C8C63E]* 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.0] [CRC: 5F63A8D7]* 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp [CRC: 01B694D9]* 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]* 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] [CRC: CCD63FCF]* ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp [CRC: A03B8809]* ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp [CRC: 57751B9F]* ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp [CRC: 955FA5B5]* 11 OBGE - Liquid Water.esp [CRC: 98001EB9]* 12 AliveWaters.esp [CRC: B2B01597]* 13 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp [CRC: DD380B77]* 14 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp [CRC: 9B1847DA]* 15 Fish! - v1.1.esp [CRC: E96FFE9E]* ++ Hear-Me-Not.esp [Version 1.02] [CRC: 2DE9D86C]* 16 PTRoamingNPCs.esp [CRC: 632B9209]* ** PTRoamingNPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: 47CF394F]* 17 FormID Finder4.esp [CRC: 99D3B0B2]* 18 P1DlookHereYou.esp [CRC: F8F7FC91]* 19 DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 351A3894]* ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp [CRC: 302A3FBF]* 1A DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: 492E8260]* 1B DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 3B6E3A93]* 1C DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: 2C68C96B]* 1D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: A0D844B4]* 1E DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: F91BECE2]* ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp [CRC: 8A533221]* 1F DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 02FA9682]* ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 8CC91BA1]* 20 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp [CRC: EEF5CD26]* 21 zBUArmors.esp [CRC: 2A625703]* 22 BreakArmor.esp [Version 1.10.f] [CRC: C72F9B7C]* 23 ANBRedNinja.esp [CRC: D966F0C9]* 24 DianoArmor2.esp [CRC: BD3DEF16]* 25 DFSL Leathery 4.esp [CRC: FBBA2806]* 26 ClawedGloves.esp [CRC: E23C80DE]* 27 Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp [CRC: 7CC4A18D]* 28 DSR&BSKMergedSet.esp [CRC: 07295C3B]* 29 Forbidden.esp [CRC: 553A14F0]* 2A HGECdarklightmithrilarmor.esp [CRC: 885DD6DD]* 2B HGEC Sexy Rogue.esp [CRC: 5B84D761]* 2C HGEC_SBVelvetRose.esp [CRC: C2AF27F7]* 2D ElvenPrincess.esp [CRC: 7DD111A0]* 2E HGECUndiesHCup.esp [CRC: 3EA22C41]* 2F Fallen Throne Armor.esp [CRC: C666132D]* 30 DM-Butterfly Widow.esp [CRC: D35CD1BD]* 31 Elisyum.esp [CRC: 6EEC5EB6]* 32 FLY_Weapons.esp [CRC: FC5B59CE]* 33 HTBFLYCollection.esp [CRC: E0A65640]* 34 Wrathcloth.esp [CRC: B0FFED00]* 35 Full Metal Bikini Mark II.esp [CRC: 94CD9652]* 36 GladiatorShoes.esp [CRC: CCCDCF3D]* 37 Iron Maiden Set.esp [CRC: 73308979]* 38 Iron Maiden - Jo's Rest.esp [CRC: 36AD0C21]* 39 IvyArmor_SlimOnlyTback.esp [CRC: EE2AE021]* ++ IvyArmor_Arena.esp [CRC: 6B2A10FB]* ++ IvyArmor_Arena_Hcup.esp [CRC: EEDD17AC]* 3A Mai's Clothes.esp [CRC: 613D85A4]* 3B Mixed Maid Uniform.esp [CRC: 76EA9945]* 3C mug.esp [CRC: 4CD10ED7]* 3D Mug-addon.esp [CRC: F52A3AF0]* 3E Pirates Outfits.esp [CRC: DA9F71AF]* 3F Sinbloods_Nightweave_HGEC.esp [CRC: 91B5605D]* 40 Throne Armor.esp [CRC: B19C70B0]* 41 Tight Minidress.esp [CRC: 41A3D036]* 42 Triss Armor Retextured.esp [CRC: 76C0C978]* 43 Vestment.esp [CRC: E8F9D346]* 44 WulfGlassArmor.esp [CRC: 6B54239D]* 45 zConversion - Merged.esp [CRC: FC798042]* ++ Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp [CRC: D021AF56]* 46 Risty's Armor.esp [CRC: 9B8F978E]* 47 Risty - Additional Races & Classes.esp [CRC: A68A2715]* 48 Colourwheels Sexy Silk Lingerie HGEC.esp [CRC: 4700629A]* 49 Dark_Mistress.esp [CRC: 6AFCDD28]* 4A Slof's Horses Base.esp [CRC: 19D114B0]* 4B Slof's Extra Horses.esp [CRC: 219A91C1]* 4C Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp [CRC: 0067D45C]* 4D DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 02E18988]* 4E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] [CRC: B647789F]* ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp [CRC: 69CFDE6E]* 4F AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp [CRC: D903AA9B]* 50 AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp [CRC: E032C399]* 51 Abriael_Human.esp [CRC: 1F3B9980]* 52 eyja.esp [CRC: 2FD7F83A]* 53 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp [CRC: 4740CE82]* 54 Smarter Bandits.esp [CRC: 34ECC32D]* 55 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp [CRC: F9C55C4D]* 56 AleswellHomeQuest.esp [CRC: EC830782]* 57 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: 0AD997E4]* 58 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 7FC2A051]* 59 DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 1E5A24A7]* ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp [CRC: 4EE72F1E]* 5A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 76D4B78B]* 5B Knights.esp [CRC: 4CB1DF3D]* 5C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: 0146B26C]* ** Knights Vwalk UOP.esp [CRC: 46352AF6]* 5D Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp [CRC: 7B618788]* ** Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion Vwalk.esp [CRC: 67806D18]* 5E AttributesEasy.esp [CRC: FEBC0074]* 5F RMDailyIncomeV2.esp [CRC: 41500476]* 60 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] [CRC: 6E4F2756]* 61 Blood Elves.esp [CRC: 17E2E050]* 62 Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp [CRC: D2B88532]* 63 RestoreHealthEnchantment.esp [CRC: DA8462F6]* 64 TamagoShop.esp [CRC: 120D1EC7]* 65 LoversTamagoClub.esp [CRC: 0CA291A3]* 66 HiyokoGenerator.esp [CRC: 5C265C18]* 67 TamagoFertilityClinic.esp [CRC: EC01B29F]* 68 HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp [CRC: B11DEA5C]* 69 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] [CRC: 18F312DC]* 6A LoversRaperS.esp [CRC: 35D3C300]* 6B LoversStalkerM.esp [CRC: 03DE75AE]* 6C LoversLoveJuice.esp [CRC: 73E9EBE1]* 6D HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] [CRC: B4F32BE6]* 6E LoversPower.esp [CRC: 3E245F1D]* 6F LoversStalkerMN.esp [CRC: 88C56A8B]* 70 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] [CRC: D9D1555A]* 71 LoversBitch.esp [CRC: 2F82A2C0]* 72 LoversCreature.esp [CRC: 8BD6EC9D]* ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp [CRC: F3400184]* ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp [CRC: D81860E9]* ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_M.esp [CRC: 716DD77D]* 73 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp [CRC: 709537B9]* 74 LoversMB2.esp [CRC: 501B307D]* 75 LoversLight.esp [CRC: 2F0CE0AB]* 76 LoversSlaveTrader.esp [CRC: 472FF261]* 77 LSTBravilUnderground.esp [CRC: CB4062AD]* 78 LSTaddonoutH.esp [CRC: 9E0C0161]* 79 LoversHVirus.esp [CRC: 9452FDED]* 7A LoversStripper.esp [CRC: 3F9065FB]* 7B LoversOrgy.esp [CRC: D26B5EC9]* 7C DarkBloodline.esp [Version 3.0b-en01] [CRC: F73BE6A9]* 7D Slof's Dogs.esp [CRC: CA9C930A]* 7E MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] [CRC: 469E356D]* 7F Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp [CRC: DC2B0A47]* 80 MCS extension.esp [CRC: 1A6310F2]* 81 SetBody.esp [CRC: F851FC02]* 82 MidasSpells.esp [CRC: 8D52E413]* 83 BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp [CRC: 3BFFDAE6]* 84 FrostcragMidasLab.esp [CRC: 8A105AD9]* ** MMC_DarkZoe Vwalk.esp [CRC: E82B495A]* 85 HumantouchNPC.esp [CRC: BB155611]* ++ 3xMercantile.esp [CRC: D97101DB]* ++ Specialanims.esp [CRC: 4998DD28]* 86 CM Partners.esp [CRC: ED17B93C]* ** CM Partners Vwalk.esp [CRC: 589C4D18]* 87 DremoraElf.esp [CRC: 9928FF88]* 88 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 09392A16]* 89 CuteElf11.esp [Version 1.3.5] [CRC: 52B9CB3E]* 8A CuteElf11 Blue Portal Bug-Fix Patch.esp [CRC: 7732A727]* 8B Manga Elves.esp [CRC: D06544B0]* 8C _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp [CRC: 0DA87982]* 8D Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp [CRC: 90596BD9]* ** Elves Of Lineage II.esp [CRC: B5116605]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp [CRC: 2BFAB355]* ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp [CRC: 10424B2F]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp [CRC: 17843FB7]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp [CRC: FAD367D4]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp [CRC: A0DEFC49]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp [CRC: C75D0D7D]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp [CRC: 98296931]* ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp [CRC: A58E6D8E]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp [CRC: 4B17FAC6]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp [CRC: BE86B1AB]* 8E Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp [CRC: E8D3DCDC]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp [CRC: 1F8D51D2]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp [CRC: 0A4DA171]* 8F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp [CRC: BCA4BAA2]* ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp [CRC: 8C9E870A]* 90 x117race.esp [CRC: 76ADC5F5]* ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp [CRC: 90321AC4]* ** Lop-ears Elf.esp [CRC: F41AFE8E]* 91 Lop-ears Elf II.esp [CRC: 9DEA6A11]* 92 IDKRRR_C_race.esp [CRC: F9BD2EA1]* 93 IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp [CRC: 465A7886]* 94 idkrrr_sarams_race.esp [CRC: 8F41C740]* 95 Chocolate Elves.esp [CRC: 7FF31290]* ** Raven Elves.esp [CRC: 5DFB6F15]* 96 Neo_Ahrum_race.esp [CRC: 4836BF17]* 97 SuccubusRace.esp [CRC: 6B93981A]* 98 From2ch Lives.esp [CRC: 919BFDB5]* 99 F2L_FaceChange.esp [CRC: D92BFB46]* 9A Ta22's 01Army.esp [CRC: 60262E89]* 9B 117NPCs.esp [CRC: FE205033]* 9C F2LMiqoteAddon.esp [CRC: EE9892E9]* 9D F2LAddon_MSElves.esp [CRC: 24EF287F]* 9E CM Partners Special NPCs.esp [CRC: CFCE92CF]* ** CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: D3188DA1]* 9F CM Partners NPC.esp [CRC: 26F8678E]* ** CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp [CRC: 6D1B38B9]* A0 CM Partners More NPCs.esp [CRC: 49C3BCE9]* ** CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: 810CCD3B]* A1 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp [CRC: E7224ABB]* ** CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: B2125178]* A2 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp [CRC: 0E16E859]* ** CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: 801C7337]* A3 cmChocolates.esp [CRC: 41DEAD44]* A4 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] [CRC: 5B89E4D3]* A5 1em_vilja_coolhair56.esp [CRC: 82905F4B]* A6 ViljainAleswell.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: A63A52C1]* A7 FFRace.esp [CRC: 41BA0E57]* A8 DAMerpeople.esp [CRC: A59603BD]* A9 PlomsOrcOverhaul v1.2.esp [CRC: E84DD220]* AA GGC_Messiah.esp [CRC: 2931F9AA]* AB GGC_Mila.esp [CRC: 3F2FCD49]* AC 1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp [CRC: 8B8BD811]* AD Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 35DF0887]* AE LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp [CRC: A30BE85E]* AF Lovers3dorgasm.esp [CRC: 33B68A7E]* B0 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp [CRC: 507FE173] 1. For those with the remaining eye issues I suggest making a complete list of them. (Make sure you've rebuilt your bashed patch too!!!) 2. Review your Oblivion directory for missing or incorrectly located nifs and textures; they may be there just in the wrong place. 3. Then, and only after you've run a directory search for the missing nifs/textures, should you start a review via CS and possibly Nifskope, making any needed changes. (This is a last ditched effort to get things working and not recommended as you will no longer be compatible with the originating MOD.) As far as the eye placement, head sizing, etc I'm assuming you are reviewing and seeing this in CS. That is perfectly normal for the x117 races. If you go to the full body view in CS you'll see they look normal. I'd also strongly suggest reading through all of the posts in this thread as there is useful info there and it may provide insight into your issues as well: Mbp ++ allin1 omod v2.1beta I'm no longer using XEO due to it's incompatibility with some MODs, so no help there. Good luck
uiowebae Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 There is an example LO right here!: Example Load order (And just a personal note, being "lazy as all hell" ain't gonna cut it in Oblivion.) Moving on... Your LO is going to be different from just about everyone elses, totally dependent on which MODs you've installed. Near impossible to post something that you can just cut & paste. Very few here use NMM, I certainly don't. Here's my current LO in regards to MBP MODs I'm using, as another example for you to develop your own: LO (Not all MODs are active.) * 00 Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5] * 01 Lovers with PK.esm [CRC: 6E3EC269] * 02 TamagoClub.esm [CRC: E1496B18] * 03 HiyokoClub.esm [CRC: 4072B9BF] * 04 LoversCreature.esm [CRC: 36E038A3] * 05 CM Partners.esm [CRC: FE525BB3] * 06 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm [CRC: 91BD5893] * 07 x117race.esm [CRC: EB24F47A] * 08 Chanpon.esm [CRC: 91260723] * 09 Hair Style Master.esm [CRC: 14DB1369] * 0A AIRrace Evy.esm [CRC: EF157B36] * 0B FFRace.esm [CRC: 4463693C] * ** Better Looking NPC.esp [CRC: 51C5C026] * 0C Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 132D0261] * ** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp [CRC: D3C8C63E] * 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.0] [CRC: 5F63A8D7] * 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp [CRC: 01B694D9] * 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977] * 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] [CRC: CCD63FCF] * ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp [CRC: A03B8809] * ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp [CRC: 57751B9F] * ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp [CRC: 955FA5B5] * 11 OBGE - Liquid Water.esp [CRC: 98001EB9] * 12 AliveWaters.esp [CRC: B2B01597] * 13 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp [CRC: DD380B77] * 14 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp [CRC: 9B1847DA] * 15 Fish! - v1.1.esp [CRC: E96FFE9E] * ++ Hear-Me-Not.esp [Version 1.02] [CRC: 2DE9D86C] * 16 PTRoamingNPCs.esp [CRC: 632B9209] * ** PTRoamingNPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: 47CF394F] * 17 FormID Finder4.esp [CRC: 99D3B0B2] * 18 P1DlookHereYou.esp [CRC: F8F7FC91] * 19 DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 351A3894] * ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp [CRC: 302A3FBF] * 1A DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: 492E8260] * 1B DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 3B6E3A93] * 1C DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: 2C68C96B] * 1D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: A0D844B4] * 1E DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: F91BECE2] * ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp [CRC: 8A533221] * 1F DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 02FA9682] * ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 8CC91BA1] * 20 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp [CRC: EEF5CD26] * 21 zBUArmors.esp [CRC: 2A625703] * 22 BreakArmor.esp [Version 1.10.f] [CRC: C72F9B7C] * 23 ANBRedNinja.esp [CRC: D966F0C9] * 24 DianoArmor2.esp [CRC: BD3DEF16] * 25 DFSL Leathery 4.esp [CRC: FBBA2806] * 26 ClawedGloves.esp [CRC: E23C80DE] * 27 Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp [CRC: 7CC4A18D] * 28 DSR&BSKMergedSet.esp [CRC: 07295C3B] * 29 Forbidden.esp [CRC: 553A14F0] * 2A HGECdarklightmithrilarmor.esp [CRC: 885DD6DD] * 2B HGEC Sexy Rogue.esp [CRC: 5B84D761] * 2C HGEC_SBVelvetRose.esp [CRC: C2AF27F7] * 2D ElvenPrincess.esp [CRC: 7DD111A0] * 2E HGECUndiesHCup.esp [CRC: 3EA22C41] * 2F Fallen Throne Armor.esp [CRC: C666132D] * 30 DM-Butterfly Widow.esp [CRC: D35CD1BD] * 31 Elisyum.esp [CRC: 6EEC5EB6] * 32 FLY_Weapons.esp [CRC: FC5B59CE] * 33 HTBFLYCollection.esp [CRC: E0A65640] * 34 Wrathcloth.esp [CRC: B0FFED00] * 35 Full Metal Bikini Mark II.esp [CRC: 94CD9652] * 36 GladiatorShoes.esp [CRC: CCCDCF3D] * 37 Iron Maiden Set.esp [CRC: 73308979] * 38 Iron Maiden - Jo's Rest.esp [CRC: 36AD0C21] * 39 IvyArmor_SlimOnlyTback.esp [CRC: EE2AE021] * ++ IvyArmor_Arena.esp [CRC: 6B2A10FB] * ++ IvyArmor_Arena_Hcup.esp [CRC: EEDD17AC] * 3A Mai's Clothes.esp [CRC: 613D85A4] * 3B Mixed Maid Uniform.esp [CRC: 76EA9945] * 3C mug.esp [CRC: 4CD10ED7] * 3D Mug-addon.esp [CRC: F52A3AF0] * 3E Pirates Outfits.esp [CRC: DA9F71AF] * 3F Sinbloods_Nightweave_HGEC.esp [CRC: 91B5605D] * 40 Throne Armor.esp [CRC: B19C70B0] * 41 Tight Minidress.esp [CRC: 41A3D036] * 42 Triss Armor Retextured.esp [CRC: 76C0C978] * 43 Vestment.esp [CRC: E8F9D346] * 44 WulfGlassArmor.esp [CRC: 6B54239D] * 45 zConversion - Merged.esp [CRC: FC798042] * ++ Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp [CRC: D021AF56] * 46 Risty's Armor.esp [CRC: 9B8F978E] * 47 Risty - Additional Races & Classes.esp [CRC: A68A2715] * 48 Colourwheels Sexy Silk Lingerie HGEC.esp [CRC: 4700629A] * 49 Dark_Mistress.esp [CRC: 6AFCDD28] * 4A Slof's Horses Base.esp [CRC: 19D114B0] * 4B Slof's Extra Horses.esp [CRC: 219A91C1] * 4C Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp [CRC: 0067D45C] * 4D DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 02E18988] * 4E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] [CRC: B647789F] * ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp [CRC: 69CFDE6E] * 4F AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp [CRC: D903AA9B] * 50 AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp [CRC: E032C399] * 51 Abriael_Human.esp [CRC: 1F3B9980] * 52 eyja.esp [CRC: 2FD7F83A] * 53 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp [CRC: 4740CE82] * 54 Smarter Bandits.esp [CRC: 34ECC32D] * 55 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp [CRC: F9C55C4D] * 56 AleswellHomeQuest.esp [CRC: EC830782] * 57 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: 0AD997E4] * 58 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 7FC2A051] * 59 DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 1E5A24A7] * ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp [CRC: 4EE72F1E] * 5A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 76D4B78B] * 5B Knights.esp [CRC: 4CB1DF3D] * 5C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: 0146B26C] * ** Knights Vwalk UOP.esp [CRC: 46352AF6] * 5D Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp [CRC: 7B618788] * ** Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion Vwalk.esp [CRC: 67806D18] * 5E AttributesEasy.esp [CRC: FEBC0074] * 5F RMDailyIncomeV2.esp [CRC: 41500476] * 60 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] [CRC: 6E4F2756] * 61 Blood Elves.esp [CRC: 17E2E050] * 62 Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp [CRC: D2B88532] * 63 RestoreHealthEnchantment.esp [CRC: DA8462F6] * 64 TamagoShop.esp [CRC: 120D1EC7] * 65 LoversTamagoClub.esp [CRC: 0CA291A3] * 66 HiyokoGenerator.esp [CRC: 5C265C18] * 67 TamagoFertilityClinic.esp [CRC: EC01B29F] * 68 HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp [CRC: B11DEA5C] * 69 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] [CRC: 18F312DC] * 6A LoversRaperS.esp [CRC: 35D3C300] * 6B LoversStalkerM.esp [CRC: 03DE75AE] * 6C LoversLoveJuice.esp [CRC: 73E9EBE1] * 6D HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] [CRC: B4F32BE6] * 6E LoversPower.esp [CRC: 3E245F1D] * 6F LoversStalkerMN.esp [CRC: 88C56A8B] * 70 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] [CRC: D9D1555A] * 71 LoversBitch.esp [CRC: 2F82A2C0] * 72 LoversCreature.esp [CRC: 8BD6EC9D] * ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp [CRC: F3400184] * ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp [CRC: D81860E9] * ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_M.esp [CRC: 716DD77D] * 73 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp [CRC: 709537B9] * 74 LoversMB2.esp [CRC: 501B307D] * 75 LoversLight.esp [CRC: 2F0CE0AB] * 76 LoversSlaveTrader.esp [CRC: 472FF261] * 77 LSTBravilUnderground.esp [CRC: CB4062AD] * 78 LSTaddonoutH.esp [CRC: 9E0C0161] * 79 LoversHVirus.esp [CRC: 9452FDED] * 7A LoversStripper.esp [CRC: 3F9065FB] * 7B LoversOrgy.esp [CRC: D26B5EC9] * 7C DarkBloodline.esp [Version 3.0b-en01] [CRC: F73BE6A9] * 7D Slof's Dogs.esp [CRC: CA9C930A] * 7E MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] [CRC: 469E356D] * 7F Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp [CRC: DC2B0A47] * 80 MCS extension.esp [CRC: 1A6310F2] * 81 SetBody.esp [CRC: F851FC02] * 82 MidasSpells.esp [CRC: 8D52E413] * 83 BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp [CRC: 3BFFDAE6] * 84 FrostcragMidasLab.esp [CRC: 8A105AD9] * ** MMC_DarkZoe Vwalk.esp [CRC: E82B495A] * 85 HumantouchNPC.esp [CRC: BB155611] * ++ 3xMercantile.esp [CRC: D97101DB] * ++ Specialanims.esp [CRC: 4998DD28] * 86 CM Partners.esp [CRC: ED17B93C] * ** CM Partners Vwalk.esp [CRC: 589C4D18] * 87 DremoraElf.esp [CRC: 9928FF88] * 88 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 09392A16] * 89 CuteElf11.esp [Version 1.3.5] [CRC: 52B9CB3E] * 8A CuteElf11 Blue Portal Bug-Fix Patch.esp [CRC: 7732A727] * 8B Manga Elves.esp [CRC: D06544B0] * 8C _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp [CRC: 0DA87982] * 8D Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp [CRC: 90596BD9] * ** Elves Of Lineage II.esp [CRC: B5116605] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp [CRC: 2BFAB355] * ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp [CRC: 10424B2F] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp [CRC: 17843FB7] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp [CRC: FAD367D4] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp [CRC: A0DEFC49] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp [CRC: C75D0D7D] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp [CRC: 98296931] * ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp [CRC: A58E6D8E] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp [CRC: 4B17FAC6] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp [CRC: BE86B1AB] * 8E Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp [CRC: E8D3DCDC] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp [CRC: 1F8D51D2] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp [CRC: 0A4DA171] * 8F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp [CRC: BCA4BAA2] * ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp [CRC: 8C9E870A] * 90 x117race.esp [CRC: 76ADC5F5] * ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp [CRC: 90321AC4] * ** Lop-ears Elf.esp [CRC: F41AFE8E] * 91 Lop-ears Elf II.esp [CRC: 9DEA6A11] * 92 IDKRRR_C_race.esp [CRC: F9BD2EA1] * 93 IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp [CRC: 465A7886] * 94 idkrrr_sarams_race.esp [CRC: 8F41C740] * 95 Chocolate Elves.esp [CRC: 7FF31290] * ** Raven Elves.esp [CRC: 5DFB6F15] * 96 Neo_Ahrum_race.esp [CRC: 4836BF17] * 97 SuccubusRace.esp [CRC: 6B93981A] * 98 From2ch Lives.esp [CRC: 919BFDB5] * 99 F2L_FaceChange.esp [CRC: D92BFB46] * 9A Ta22's 01Army.esp [CRC: 60262E89] * 9B 117NPCs.esp [CRC: FE205033] * 9C F2LMiqoteAddon.esp [CRC: EE9892E9] * 9D F2LAddon_MSElves.esp [CRC: 24EF287F] * 9E CM Partners Special NPCs.esp [CRC: CFCE92CF] * ** CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: D3188DA1] * 9F CM Partners NPC.esp [CRC: 26F8678E] * ** CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp [CRC: 6D1B38B9] * A0 CM Partners More NPCs.esp [CRC: 49C3BCE9] * ** CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: 810CCD3B] * A1 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp [CRC: E7224ABB] * ** CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: B2125178] * A2 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp [CRC: 0E16E859] * ** CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp [CRC: 801C7337] * A3 cmChocolates.esp [CRC: 41DEAD44] * A4 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] [CRC: 5B89E4D3] * A5 1em_vilja_coolhair56.esp [CRC: 82905F4B] * A6 ViljainAleswell.esp [Version 1.3] [CRC: A63A52C1] * A7 FFRace.esp [CRC: 41BA0E57] * A8 DAMerpeople.esp [CRC: A59603BD] * A9 PlomsOrcOverhaul v1.2.esp [CRC: E84DD220] * AA GGC_Messiah.esp [CRC: 2931F9AA] * AB GGC_Mila.esp [CRC: 3F2FCD49] * AC 1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp [CRC: 8B8BD811] * AD Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 35DF0887] * AE LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp [CRC: A30BE85E] * AF Lovers3dorgasm.esp [CRC: 33B68A7E] * B0 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp [CRC: 507FE173] 1. For those with the remaining eye issues I suggest making a complete list of them. (Make sure you've rebuilt your bashed patch too!!!) 2. Review your Oblivion directory for missing or incorrectly located nifs and textures; they may be there just in the wrong place. 3. Then, and only after you've run a directory search for the missing nifs/textures, should you start a review via CS and possibly Nifskope, making any needed changes. (This is a last ditched effort to get things working and not recommended as you will no longer be compatible with the originating MOD.) As far as the eye placement, head sizing, etc I'm assuming you are reviewing and seeing this in CS. That is perfectly normal for the x117 races. If you go to the full body view in CS you'll see they look normal. I'd also strongly suggest reading through all of the posts in this thread as there is useful info there and it may provide insight into your issues as well: Mbp ++ allin1 omod v2.1beta I'm no longer using XEO due to it's incompatibility with some MODs, so no help there. Good luck thanks for your current load order templet (as for the lazy as all hell part i forgot to add it was meant to be read as stupied/thick but still your point still stands....) ill get a list going right now on what race has problems so someone can give out pointers on to fix them, as for the link ill read the thread again as there something i may of looked over at the time
uiowebae Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 lmperial child, vampire child, nord child,redguard child, wood elf child, argonian child,breton, high elf child, googly eyes or loose fiting eys lop ears (most it not all ver and races),kunne, snow tabaxi mini( or any if not all minis of every race): reanamied eyes, bald, and or "loose fited eyes" mazken: no eye textures, one ear not maching mitzha bald ear textures are missing (lighing on them is bright)(mini has reanamied eyes and both are bald) moonknightK ears seem "off" and bald moonshodow elves: bald some type of nord has one eye missing texteures ohmes-rahts missing eyes some orcs are missing one or more eye textures orog missing eys and teath textures some redgurads missing one eye texture anyrace with a beteran or smart are bald unless stated otherwise all slimx105 races have loose fited eyes torkturian cow (all): googly eyes vanpire race copy: googly eyes some wood elfs have no eye textures wood elf smart has off texture ears high reiz one woodelf has flooting hair xivilai is missing out right yokomimitztha(all ver) bald and off texture ears some with reanimaid eyes 0 cute elf hair and years dont "fit" some ainmhi have googly eyes archaic elf bald argonian eyes are poping out or human types are bald aureal no eye textures some breton are missing textures in one eye carrier fangs are cliping lower gaw a bit xno x117 (all) hair mash is too small or heads are too big chaponx117a1 onword are missing eyes or have reanamied cursed woman googly eyes dark elf one eye has no textures dark seducer textures in both eyes are missing darkgodness floting hair diablo elf fangs are cliping dog bitch ( yes its a race i have for some reason or other) googly eyes draco googly eyes some golden saints: googly eyes hidden elf no eye texteurs some high elfs have floting hair one has no texture in one eye and thats it this gose for both genders
kingkong Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 i would strongly suggest you to use tes4edit and fixe what can be fixed and remove what is disturbing you you customising your mods
uiowebae Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 i would strongly suggest you to use tes4edit and fixe what can be fixed and remove what is disturbing you you customising your mods i would if i knew how to, cleaning is one thing but anything above that.........
kingkong Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 do you know how to use CS and making a file.esp or fixing if yes than tes4edit is far more easier and faster and you will get it to a good use very fast i do not know of any tutorials for it
uiowebae Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 ....well thats just great i just have cs and tes4edit for when needed but dont really know how to use them.... (in terms making or editing esp files)
uiowebae Posted May 28, 2014 Author Posted May 28, 2014 i am not sure how to reply !!! you are asking if someone could spend his time to fixe about 40 mods that he might never heard about or has no interrest to your game especialy. (but there is a lot of exotic mods that could be fixed and a lot of people that want a mod to work with an other and they are not willing to spend time to do it them self) here we try to help people to fixe issues or to find a way to fixe issues and some times we share our work (made for our own use) now you have your answear to your issues you know what need to be done it is up to you to learn the tools to do the job you want. there is no simple task and modder were not born with CS knowlege sorry for beeing rude no worry's i understand, just keep in mind im not a modder so doing things by hand (other then say changing the path cs or using the auto clean in tes4edit) seems off putting and you being rude? maybe its the autism or maybe i have thick sikn but i just see it as you pointing out the facts anyways if anything is more breaking the mod im more worred about then making the problem worse and have to start from a clean copy again if i head a guide or helping hand i may be able to do it myself (knowing that block/cell/whatever to get ride of and such) i know you all are busy people so i will never ask that much of you do it for me but something is better then nothing right?
kingkong Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 i was hoping my post was deleted as i am just pesting (too late) This is the only way i know doing things by hand with CS or tes4edit there is no secret tools that i am aware of ( you need time and testing to understand the use ) here an other guide just looked with google http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/tutorials/article/20-cs-basics-guest-workshop-1/ (it is CS logic) for tes4edit i never do an auto clean i use it like CS and more as i merge files with (when there is no scripts) more often to an esm and i am not using bash as i can controle more easily what i am doing modder or not modder anyway you will break the game in a way or another as you add more mods you will have more and more conflicts and crashes (load order, incopatible esp, file conflicts, files missings, bad save bad ini tweaks etc...) the only thing to do is to make a backup (iso image) of you last stable and working game with the basic mods that you will never remove than play with the tools and try to make a better oblivion and when you find your best oblivion install you make a backup (doing so you pass to the other side of the mirror)
varenne Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 That is one heck of a long list of race issues. Were it me, I'd back step a bit by first removing anything related to XEO, including purging any and all ESMs/ESMs nifs and textures related to your prior XEO installs. Next, I'd put all of my focus on getting MBP++ working 100%. This is inline with what kingkong is suggesting too I feel; based on the extensive MOD list you have installed some personal customization will be required on your part, but more on that at a later date. Focus on MBP++ first, inline with what MODs you have installed, some of which may need to either be for now temporarily disabled and later customized to work 100% correctly for your unique Oblivion build. Once you accomplish that, only then should you proceed to expand to use XEO. I feel you are trying to chew the entire elephant, without knowing the size or complexity of it. Your desired Oblivion build would give even a veteran of Oblivion nightmares.
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