modding out pronouns/rainbow group stuff

[Kaldor Draigo]

why is nexus against this? its pretty hypocritical of them to have mods that add that stuff in or replace but cant remove that stuff?

[MadMansGun]

whats more funny is that they got pissed at me for attaching a dick onto a female werewolf, fucking hypocritical much?

[Travestea]

Relevant post from a few years ago.

 

As far as why it's not equally applied, who knows. Maybe nobody reports the pro- mods. Maybe they've decided it's more advantageous to be pro than against. I'd also say there's a difference between mods adding pride flags and mods that effectively say "trans people don't exist". In all honesty, I'd hazard a guess that mod would get yanked from here as well if it got posted.

 

Also have to keep in mind those anti- mods are very often in bad faith and specifically done to get people talking, which seems to be the case here. They make and post them specifically knowing what will happen shortly after they post it. Their whole goal is to get people asking the same question you are in hopes that they get enough outrage to get pro- stuff taken down too (and it's not limited to online modding sites) and gain supporters for their "help, I'm being persecuted" crusade.

 

Personally, I fine with the unevenness. Trans people are being attacked daily and somebody's gotta stand up for them. Pro- mods aren't harmful. Anti- ones very often are, if for no other reason than the subtext behind them being made and published. The bigots need to find something else to do with their time.

[MadMansGun]

6 minutes ago, Travestea said:

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most of theses mods are not mods at all, they activate a hidden setting that's already in the game, eg: cp2077 has a "china mode" setting.

 

and in hogwarts legacy it was only in the English version of the game that the female bartender spoke with a male voice.

Edited September 13, 2023 by MadMansGun

[BAB PEEG]

1 hour ago, Kaldor Draigo said:

why is nexus against this? its pretty hypocritical of them to have mods that add that stuff in or replace but cant remove that stuff?

Because removing things you don't want is "an attack on somebody's rights" or something these days.

[reaper9789]

I guarantee none of the "weirdos" can afford a computer to run the game.
Its not like they are excluding customers to leave that shit out.
As far as ive seen, most of the gay community hate these people.

Edited September 13, 2023 by reaper9789

[MadMansGun]

6 minutes ago, reaper9789 said:

I guarantee none of the "weirdos" can afford a computer to run the game.

unless they are the paid to do nothing scumbags, Eg: hollywood writers and the staff of news corporations, but they don't pay for jack shit anyways.

[vallixas]

It's obvious why. It's against TOS, and those sorts of mods do nothing but attract the worst of people from 4chan who just sit in the comments saying racist, homophobic shit. The comment sections literally go from 0 to 100+ comments in mere minutes. It's obvious that there are entire discords out there who just organize this crap just to incite people. Admins don't have time to sit there in comment sections policing all day for obvious troll bait mods. They are literally only uploaded to harass and provoke arguements and berate people. Don't act obtuse.

 

You live in the western world, you use western platforms, you follow western values, western law and western customs. And in the west we do not entertain nazi shit. Not in real life, not on platforms either. Removing races, or gays because you don't like them is not tolerated here. You can always create your own platform where you can do that, but people don't want to do that, they want to keep trying to upload such garbage on the most popular site, because again, the goal is simply to harass.

Edited September 13, 2023 by vallixas

[polska]

11 minutes ago, vallixas said:

you follow western values

i had to laugh. sorry cant take you serious.

[vallixas]

10 minutes ago, polska said:

i had to laugh. sorry cant take you serious.

 

Then you will continue to have your mods removed lol. You are not exempt from following US customs or laws on US platforms. Even a craphole like 4chan will still ban you for violating US law. If you don't like how we run things, you can always create a site on your own nations server where you can post all the nazi shit you want. But not on our shit. We don't tolerate it. Simple as.

[davemash]

99% of it is just obvious ragebait to sow division and exclusion which is just fucking ballache to manage, No normal person has time for that, Made by morons to piss people off so just shove it in the bin. Easy. It's not rocket science.

[vallixas]

4 minutes ago, davemash said:

99% of it is just obvious ragebait to sow division and exclusion which is just fucking ballache to manage, No normal person has time for that, Made by morons to piss people off so just shove it in the bin. Easy. It's not rocket science.

 

Precisely, that is the goal. And you see it in how quickly the comments jump up, and how many outright anti-lgbt people leave their comments there inciting hatred. The same applies to the mods attempting to remove brown people. Thing is, these people can simply exchange said mods on the obvious discords they run to organize these attacks, but they don't do that. Because again, the goal is to harass people. They know it is, but think others are stupid and oblivious to the intent.

[bjornk]

If you want everyone in a game to be either male or female or refuse to play retarded LGBTQ identity politics games, then you are no doubt a "nazi shit".

[vallixas]

Yes, incase you weren't aware lgbtq/trans were targets by the nazis. And they practiced the very tactics the modern right does today. Hope that helps.

[Shaun0057]

nexus is so woke as well 

[bjornk]

The LGBTQ is a political movement with its own rainbow flag and all, literal definition of identity politics, and the pronoun BS is a part of it. There is no universally accepted value in it, if people in a democratic country don't like your world views and politics then they have every right to fight against it. However, "freedom of expression" is a basic human right and is universally accepted and has been a part of the so called western values. You can't deny people's basic human rights by taking away their freedom of expression simply because you don't like what they say, and then try to excuse your intolerance by calling it "Western Values" unless those values are completely made up.

[MadMansGun]

the acronym nazi has been misused so much it's not a insult anymore, the meaning of it has changed to the point that being called one has become a badge of honor.

"Normies Against Zealot Imbeciles" that's what "nazi" means now.

 

1 hour ago, vallixas said:

US customs or laws on US platforms.

in us law a mod that removes/replaces pronouns could be considered a first amendment right to free speech, saying male female instead of she/her he/him is not the same thing as denying the fucking horrors of the holocaust.

Edited September 13, 2023 by MadMansGun

[bjornk]

I'm really curious how the localized versions of this game translated for languages (e.g. Japanese, Finnish, Turkish, Hungarian) that don't use gendered pronouns handled this pronoun BS. Logically, it should be a non issue for them, but I somehow doubt they'd be able to get rid of "they/them" BS.

[trees]

13 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

the acronym nazi has been misused so much it's not a insult anymore, the meaning of it has changed to the point that being called one has become a badge of honor.

"Normies Against Zealot Imbeciles" that's what "nazi" means now.

 

in us law a mod that removes/replaces pronouns could be considered a first amendment right to free speech, saying male female instead of she/her he/him is not the same thing as the denying the fucking horrors of the holocaust.

 

18 minutes ago, bjornk said:

The LGBTQ is a political movement with its own rainbow flag and all, literal definition of identity politics, and the pronoun BS is a part of it. There is no universally accepted value in it, if people in a democratic country don't like your world views and politics then they have every right to fight against it. However, "freedom of expression" is a basic human right and is universally accepted and has been a part of the so called western values. You can't deny people's basic human rights by taking away their freedom of expression simply because you don't like what they say, and then try to excuse your intolerance by calling it "Western Values" unless those values are completely made up.

 

11 hours ago, BAB PEEG said:

Because removing things you don't want is "an attack on somebody's rights" or something these days.

 

You know, I've always wondered what it's like to live your kind of life. Like I just cannot fathom the experience of being in constant fear of everything around you. Of waking up in a cold sweat every morning because somewhere, two men might be enjoying each others' company. Of sprinting to the other side of the street when you notice a dark-skinned person walking towards you. Of being constantly on-guard around certain bartenders and cashiers because one of them might actually have a penis. I just can't conceive of what it must be like to be such a plainly weak and pathetic individual.

 

Now to be fair - I have a strong feeling that a lot of the people doing this aren't actually part of the crazy right wing of politics that doesn't seem to realize that they have quite literally never in recorded history actually succeeded. Cyberpunk2077 did the same things, and was much more explicit about trans issues. BG3 didn't address the topic during gameplay, but did let you choose pronouns, and also included an actual full-on gay orgy. Starfield having a pronoun picker in the character creator and maybe a few passing mentions of... not even Trans issues, just the basic concept of Trans people existing; it's only an issue because certain people have made their entire personality just "Starfield is bad and Bethesda deserves to fail" and were betting everything on Starfield launching the same way Cyberpunk did, and since that didn't end up happening are now grasping at literally anything they can.

[Decèdere]

Funny how inclusion of LGBTQ is always considered a political agenda to a certain type of person. As if they're not actually real people who exist in the world so we shouldn't give them representation in games.

 

Like you don't have a trans folder in your porn collection.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Decèdere

[MadMansGun]

27 minutes ago, bjornk said:

I'm really curious how the localized versions of this game translated for languages (e.g. Japanese, Finnish, Turkish, Hungarian) that don't use gendered pronouns handled this pronoun BS. Logically, it should be a non issue for them, but I somehow doubt they'd be able to get rid of "they/them" BS.

i assume that's how the no pronoun patch was made, they probably looked at the non English version of the game.

22 minutes ago, trees said:

You know, I've always wondered what it's like to live your kind of life. Like I just cannot fathom the experience of being in constant fear of everything around you. Of waking up in a cold sweat every morning because somewhere, two men might be enjoying each others' company. Of sprinting to the other side of the street when you notice a dark-skinned person walking towards you. Of being constantly on-guard around certain bartenders and cashiers because one of them might actually have a penis. I just can't conceive of what it must be like to be such a plainly weak and pathetic individual.

i'm a bi furry that makes gay dragon and werewolf porn, so stop projecting your insecurities onto others. if you are seeing nazis everywhere then perhaps it's actually you that are in fact the fucking nazi. and no one here has even said anything about African Americans so why the fuck are you going off about them, are you a fucking white supremacist or something?

Edited September 13, 2023 by MadMansGun

[vallixas]

32 minutes ago, Decèdere said:

Funny how inclusion of LGBTQ is always considered a political agenda to a certain type of person. As if they're not actually real people who exist in the world so we shouldn't give them representation in games.

 

Like you don't have a trans folder in your porn collection.

 

Same with the "anti-woke" crowd. Some way some how, the "just asking questions" crowd always turn out exactly how you expect them to be. Infact actual Nazis used similar tactics, against both the lgbt, and jews, same gaslighting as well. Also saying you're "gay" or "bi" is no excuse for either anti-trans rhetoric or racist rhetoric as both gay racist and gay anti-trans exist. Your sexuality has nothing to do with your bigotry. You can be both.

Edited September 13, 2023 by vallixas

[bjornk]

10 minutes ago, Decèdere said:

Funny how inclusion of LGBTQ is always considered a political agenda to a certain type of person. As if they're not actually real people who exist in the world so we shouldn't give them representation in games.

 

Replace "LGBTQ" with "the Nazi" and rethink what you wrote.

[vallixas]

And there we have it, comparing people who just want to live with a genocidal group who slaughtered millions of people across Europe and created an entire exclusionary racist pseudo science with the sole purpose of dehumanizing other races. This is how the anti-woke brain works. Gays and genocidal fascist are a both sides issue lol. I repeat, the anti-woke crowd always turn out exactly how you expect them to. Right down to the anime pfp no less lmao.

Edited September 13, 2023 by vallixas

[DDetrix]

1 hour ago, bjornk said:

If you want everyone in a game to be either male or female or refuse to play retarded LGBTQ identity politics games, then you are no doubt a "nazi shit".

 

I find it funny that people inside the movement can't see how much it's controlled by mega corporations. I get it, unhappy folks often accept power where ever they can get it to spread their misery. 

 

As for Nexus and stuff, often times they have literal FBI agents telling them what to do. Personally, getting a that power from them is not worth it but pissing them off will end you up like MI6 'body-in-bag' Gareth Williams. Not saying he was killed, that's crazy. He clearly felt like padlocking himself in a small bag in the shower.. for fun or something.