hollowchld Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 hi guys I've been trying to fix this problem for about 2 weeks now, and i give up. would love some help. like topic said, i tryed deleting everything from my skyrim for a clean install, and i've even cut down on some mods.(trust me i had lots) would love to play the game again =( Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 ApachiiHair.esm 06 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 07 ApachiiHairMales.esm 08 RaceCompatibility.esm 09 BBLuxurySuite.esm 0A OBlHairFinal.esm 0B SexLab.esm [Version 1.20] 0C SPIKE.esm 0D TERAArmors.esm 0E ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0F HighResTexturePack01.esp 10 HighResTexturePack02.esp 11 HighResTexturePack03.esp 12 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.3.3c] 13 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 14 USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp 15 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.4] 16 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 17 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 18 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 19 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 1A SexLabDefeat.esp 1B RaceMenu.esp 1C RaceMenuPlugin.esp 1D Sextreme-All.esp 1E SkyUI.esp 1F Amiella Outfit.esp 20 Angelic_Demonic.esp 21 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp 22 Darklilith.esp 23 FF7 Blades.esp 24 forsworn-trouble.esp 25 hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 26 Huntress.esp 27 lilithsdisemboweler.esp 28 lilithssickle.esp 29 MashupUNP.esp 2A Maxwell Outfit.esp 2B Osare GothicLolita BU.esp 2C Osare SchoolUniform BU.esp 2D rosarmor.esp 2E SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 2F StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp 30 SuccubusCBBE3GiftByNausicaa.esp 31 SVS LadyTemplar.esp 32 TavernClothes-MTM.esp 33 TERAArmors.esp 34 Witch Of The Wild.esp 35 ZangetsuAllForms.esp 36 BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp 37 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp 38 BBLSspouse.esp 39 BBLSVisitors.esp 3A BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp 3B DA_Maxwell_Outfit_Dibella_UNP.esp 3C SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 3D SexLab Solutions.esp 3E FNISspells.esp 3F AnyHairAllRaces.esp 40 CazyMale.esp 41 Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp 42 Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp 43 LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp 44 N_43 Hair Pack.esp 45 Noiral.esp 46 TemptressVixen.esp 47 Bee_V.esp 48 Bijin Warmaidens UNP One esp.esp 49 Kate.esp 4A EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 4B EMViljessicaPatch.esp 4C AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 4D Start As Dark Elf Female.esp 4E Start As Orc Female.esp 4F Start As Imperial Female.esp 50 Start As Agronian Female.esp 51 Start As Nord Female.esp 52 Start As High Elf Female.esp 53 Start As Reguard Female.esp 54 Start As Khajiit Female.esp 55 Start As Breton Female.esp 56 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 57 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 58 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 59 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 5A FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 5B Qasmoke Travel Spell.esp 5C JessicaAlbaDemonHunter.esp 5D HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 5E Euka.esp 5F PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp 60 MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp 61 SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 4] 62 Rayya.esp utilities SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16 FNIS 4.0 CharacterMakingExtender_plugin.dll Fuz Ro D'oh.dll Version: 6.0.6.405 nioverride.dll showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll Papyrus.0.zip anyone wanna be my hero for the month? Link to comment
mkprovince Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Why is your bashed patch up there? Shouldn't it be in the lowest standing of every load order? Also did you rebuild the patch? Link to comment
Veladarius Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 When exactly does it crash? Link to comment
CGi Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Enable only ONE of those: 4D Start As Dark Elf Female.esp 4E Start As Orc Female.esp4F Start As Imperial Female.esp50 Start As Agronian Female.esp51 Start As Nord Female.esp52 Start As High Elf Female.esp53 Start As Reguard Female.esp54 Start As Khajiit Female.esp55 Start As Breton Female.esp You simply can't start as every female race, Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Why is your bashed patch up there? Shouldn't it be in the lowest standing of every load order? Also did you rebuild the patch? bashed patch? When exactly does it crash? at the moment it crashes when SexLabRandomAttack goes, matchmaker, or heres the fucked up part is, when i at a last part of walking nightmare quest for dawn star Enable only ONE of those: 4D Start As Dark Elf Female.esp 4E Start As Orc Female.esp4F Start As Imperial Female.esp 50 Start As Agronian Female.esp 51 Start As Nord Female.esp 52 Start As High Elf Female.esp 53 Start As Reguard Female.esp 54 Start As Khajiit Female.esp 55 Start As Breton Female.esp You simply can't start as every female race, nord is the only one active sorry abt the confusion. Link to comment
mkprovince Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 59 Bashed Patch, 0.esp << This! Shouldn't that be right at the bottom of the load order? The very existence of this says that you're using Wrye Bash, so you at least have been rebuilding the patch... right? Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 59 Bashed Patch, 0.esp << This! Shouldn't that be right at the bottom of the load order? The very existence of this says that you're using Wrye Bash, so you at least have been rebuilding the patch... right? well i let boss do my load order for me, as for as rebuilding the bash patch( hate me if u want) i have no idea what u are talking abt. never had to for the last 1-2 yrs? Link to comment
mkprovince Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 59 Bashed Patch, 0.esp << This! Shouldn't that be right at the bottom of the load order? The very existence of this says that you're using Wrye Bash, so you at least have been rebuilding the patch... right? well i let boss do my load order for me, as for as rebuilding the bash patch( hate me if u want) i have no idea what u are talking abt. never had to for the last 1-2 yrs? ??? Now I'm confused by what you're talking about never doing it for the past 2 years. Are you referring to the BOSS load or the Wrye Bash bashed patch? The esp that I pointed at should always be loaded last of the load order since it's supposed to contain all the bashed data of any mod that implements leveled list into Skyrim. Also, BOSS isn't almighty as some would like to claim; at least it doesn't recognize the Bashed Patch.esp. Every time there's a change to the existing esp and esm list you should rebuild the patch. Else, the game's going to get really weird and jumpy. Therefore, you need to manually place that at the last order and then run through the rebuilding of that esp. Run BOSS and update the master list first. Then manually move the Bashed Patch down to the last load order down below. Next is... The simple guide (I assume you are using Wrye Bash and I'm using 303, not the newest version): Just open the program and go to the mod list under the mod tab. Click any one of the esp and the press "Ctrl+A" to select all files. The whole page should be highlighted. Then right click on any of the highlighted esp or esm and choose "Mark mergeable" Let it run once. Wrye Bash will then let you know which mods can be merged. Type it somewhere else like on a Note Pad for reference. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated. Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 59 Bashed Patch, 0.esp << This! Shouldn't that be right at the bottom of the load order? The very existence of this says that you're using Wrye Bash, so you at least have been rebuilding the patch... right? well i let boss do my load order for me, as for as rebuilding the bash patch( hate me if u want) i have no idea what u are talking abt. never had to for the last 1-2 yrs? ??? Now I'm confused by what you're talking about never doing it for the past 2 years. Are you referring to the BOSS load or the Wrye Bash bashed patch? The esp that I pointed at should always be loaded last of the load order since it's supposed to contain all the bashed data of any mod that implements leveled list into Skyrim. Also, BOSS isn't almighty as some would like to claim; at least it doesn't recognize the Bashed Patch.esp. Every time there's a change to the existing esp and esm list you should rebuild the patch. Else, the game's going to get really weird and jumpy. Therefore, you need to manually place that at the last order and then run through the rebuilding of that esp. Run BOSS and update the master list first. Then manually move the Bashed Patch down to the last load order down below. Next is... The simple guide (I assume you are using Wrye Bash and I'm using 303, not the newest version): Just open the program and go to the mod list under the mod tab. Click any one of the esp and the press "Ctrl+A" to select all files. The whole page should be highlighted. Then right click on any of the highlighted esp or esm and choose "Mark mergeable" Let it run once. Wrye Bash will then let you know which mods can be merged. Type it somewhere else like on a Note Pad for reference. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated. The simple guide (I assume you are using Wrye Bash and I'm using 303, not the newest version): Just open the program and go to the mod list under the mod tab. Click any one of the esp and the press "Ctrl+A" to select all files. The whole page should be highlighted. Then right click on any of the highlighted esp or esm and choose "Mark mergeable" Let it run once. Wrye Bash will then let you know which mods can be merged. Type it somewhere else like on a Note Pad for reference. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated ^ never did that b4 so i'm gonna do that now and see if i will crash or not and thanks for the bash patch part. did not know that it had to be in the last slot. >_< i hate load orders Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 k time for a test run Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 >.< crashed still. i wonder if i just uninstall sexlabs, and mods. Link to comment
PCGameFanatic Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 All unofficial patches should always be first esp's in list not halfway down. Bashed patch rebuild bung right at the bottom, SexLab defeat might be another cause, others have had problems with it causing CTD... Link to comment
CGi Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The USKP is sorted in correctly. No need to worry.The mods below Bashed Patch are there, because they are unknown to BOSS and need to be sorted in manually.i don't know what Rayya is, but if it's a companion, move it manually below or above Vilja. BOSS always sorts all follower mods (that are known to BOSS) pretty low in the load order, so you can follow this mechanic.Same for the other mods. Just use some common sense, analyze how BOSS sorted in known plugins and put the plugins, that are unknown to BOSS, manually at a more appropriate position. Summary: Bashed Patch should always be loaded last. Everything below it, after running BOSS, needs to be sorted in manually. After sorting in all plugins files, rebuild the Bashed Patch, as it may now contain more records. Btw: PCEA is not really compatible with anything and for sure not with SexLab. i recommend you to get rid of it, but it's your choice ofc. Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 The USKP is sorted in correctly. No need to worry. The mods below Bashed Patch are there, because they are unknown to BOSS and need to be sorted in manually. i don't know what Rayya is, but if it's a companion, move it manually below or above Vilja. BOSS always sorts all follower mods (that are known to BOSS) pretty low in the load order, so you can follow this mechanic. Same for the other mods. Just use some common sense, analyze how BOSS sorted in known plugins and put the plugins, that are unknown to BOSS, manually at a more appropriate position. Summary: Bashed Patch should always be loaded last. Everything below it, after running BOSS, needs to be sorted in manually. After sorting in all plugins files, rebuild the Bashed Patch, as it may now contain more records. Btw: PCEA is not really compatible with anything and for sure not with SexLab. i recommend you to get rid of it, but it's your choice ofc. that is the most information i've gotten today. will try that tomarrow, but for now i'm walking away b4 i rage at crashes, >.> Fuck it i'll try it now. Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 guessing i am gonna hav to do a clean install b/c of uninstalling pcea >.> b/c i'm crashing once sexlabrandomattacks goes, or matchmaker, or if i get below 20% health. in short i fail at sexlab mods Link to comment
mkprovince Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The simple guide (I assume you are using Wrye Bash and I'm using 303, not the newest version): Just open the program and go to the mod list under the mod tab. Click any one of the esp and the press "Ctrl+A" to select all files. The whole page should be highlighted. Then right click on any of the highlighted esp or esm and choose "Mark mergeable" Let it run once. Wrye Bash will then let you know which mods can be merged. Type it somewhere else like on a Note Pad for reference. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated ^ never did that b4 so i'm gonna do that now and see if i will crash or not and thanks for the bash patch part. did not know that it had to be in the last slot. >_< i hate load orders Damn, I was so shocked that I would be late for work that I gave you a bit of wrong info on that. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated should have been Select the Bashed Patch.esp (should be the last in the order and the only one highlighted) and then select "Rebuild Patch" after right clicking on the highlighted Bashed Patch.esp. Else the "Rebuild Patch" will not be open for your selection. Select "Rebuild Patch" and the press the "Build Patch" button. After that, just press OK for the final confirmation after everything is done. If there's any warning, then you need to see what the pop up says. Should be able to cut down some instances on the CTD. Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 The simple guide (I assume you are using Wrye Bash and I'm using 303, not the newest version): Just open the program and go to the mod list under the mod tab. Click any one of the esp and the press "Ctrl+A" to select all files. The whole page should be highlighted. Then right click on any of the highlighted esp or esm and choose "Mark mergeable" Let it run once. Wrye Bash will then let you know which mods can be merged. Type it somewhere else like on a Note Pad for reference. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated ^ never did that b4 so i'm gonna do that now and see if i will crash or not and thanks for the bash patch part. did not know that it had to be in the last slot. >_< i hate load orders Damn, I was so shocked that I would be late for work that I gave you a bit of wrong info on that. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated should have been Select the Bashed Patch.esp (should be the last in the order and the only one highlighted) and then select "Rebuild Patch" after right clicking on the highlighted Bashed Patch.esp. Else the "Rebuild Patch" will not be open for your selection. Select "Rebuild Patch" and the press the "Build Patch" button. After that, just press OK for the final confirmation after everything is done. If there's any warning, then you need to see what the pop up says. Should be able to cut down some instances on the CTD. i will do that once i reinstall skyrim and some mods Link to comment
Honesty Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Your load order is trash. If you don't know what WyreBash is, stop using it. Uninstall EVERYTHING. Stop using that alternate start mod also - Steve40 mentioned using mods like that would result in FxDustDrop script spam (it spams regardless sometimes it seems). I highly suggest doing the following and follow everything in order -- 1.) Uninstall E V E R Y T H I N G. DELETE EVERYTHING. Poof gone. 2.) Download Skyrim from steam (dont be a jagmo and pirate) and fully update EVERYTHING (I highly recommend buying all available X-pacs also, and when you get to step 3, it'll download the CK files for said x-pac's as well) 3.) Download the Creation Kit and let it update everything. 4.) Set both Skyrim and CK to "do not automatically update this game" only after fully updating 5.) Install all unofficial patches 6.) Install Steve40's script fixes (all but the dunbluepalace one as I believe USKP fixed that without error) 7.) use TES5edit and clean Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, Hearthfiles.esm and Dragonborn.esm 8.) Install latest SKSE files and make sure NMM is using "Launch SKSE" and not "Launch Skyrim." 9.) Slowly start adding mods. Turn on papyrus logging when installing some "newly" made mods and check for errors. Don't forget to turn back off 10.) Edit your .INI files and tweak everything as needed. Do not add legacy/Oblivion .ini entries as they're junk and won't do anything 11.) Enjoy a beautiful experience!! Link to comment
D_ManXX2 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 FxDustDrop On nexus they mentioned this spam only occurs when mods edit helgen quest directly so all alternate starts or helgen reborn mods will cause this bug. But it will only be temporary till the quest is complete and you go to whiterun to report to the yarl. Link to comment
CGi Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 i actually recommend using Mod Organizer.it's more complicated for beginners and may even look complicated to experienced users, that are used to NMM, but it saves a hell lot of hassle, as nothing is installed into the games folder, as MO instead redirects Skyrims fs-calls to it's own mod folders, by injecting itself into the game (or thru an SKSE plugin, which can be selected as alternative). So if an mod makes any problems, you can simply untick it and it's gone. No left-overs to worry about. it even supports multiple profiles, that use their own ini files and savegames, making testing mods easier. it support NXM links as well, allowing you to use the "Direct Download" buttons with MO and MO can check for mod updates, so you don't get an disadvantage if it comes down to this functionality, compared to NMM. it's basicly NMM with added functionality, compatibility and user friendlyness, as none of NMMs functions are missing. But it's important to know, that every software, like TES5Edit and WryeBash, needs to be started from inside MO, to make them work with your new Game&Mods system and that you need a fresh vanilla install of Skyrim, before putting MO to use. it even comes with the most usefull feature (my opinion) from WryeBash, by letting you know, when an plugin misses an master. Like having an needed mod not installed or having the needed master loaded after the plugin(s), that use it. Ask around LL and a lot of people will recommend you to switch. i recommend you take a look at it and decide for yourself. if you can't get used to it, even if your life depends on it, stay with NMM.And no, i'm not saying NMM is bad. For the people that it's targeting, which are unexperienced users, it's a very well made and powerfull piece of software. P.s.: Like NMM, MO support FO3, FO:NV, TES IV and TES V. it's only TES III, that MO doesn't support. But for every supported game, you need a seperate install of MO. But looking at todays HD sizes and prizes, those few MB shouldn't be a problem and (in my opinion) it makes managing all those games way easier. Link to comment
Itski Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 i'd hazard a guess and say it might be the luxury suite, it hasn't been updated in a year and if i remember correctly, its incompatible with AFT, the author recommended EFF to use in its place Link to comment
hollowchld Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 The simple guide (I assume you are using Wrye Bash and I'm using 303, not the newest version): Just open the program and go to the mod list under the mod tab. Click any one of the esp and the press "Ctrl+A" to select all files. The whole page should be highlighted. Then right click on any of the highlighted esp or esm and choose "Mark mergeable" Let it run once. Wrye Bash will then let you know which mods can be merged. Type it somewhere else like on a Note Pad for reference. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated ^ never did that b4 so i'm gonna do that now and see if i will crash or not and thanks for the bash patch part. did not know that it had to be in the last slot. >_< i hate load orders Damn, I was so shocked that I would be late for work that I gave you a bit of wrong info on that. Then, right click on the highlighted list again and then choose "Rebuild Patch". Let it rebuild the patch and you should be good to go. If the rebuild option is not clickable then that means your list is updated should have been Select the Bashed Patch.esp (should be the last in the order and the only one highlighted) and then select "Rebuild Patch" after right clicking on the highlighted Bashed Patch.esp. Else the "Rebuild Patch" will not be open for your selection. Select "Rebuild Patch" and the press the "Build Patch" button. After that, just press OK for the final confirmation after everything is done. If there's any warning, then you need to see what the pop up says. Should be able to cut down some instances on the CTD. ^ that worked, played the whole day with out crash. as for people telling me load order is not great. well i use boss, knowing theres still errors with boss. i dont make mods i just use and endorse them. for someone like me thats fairly new to mods, mod orders, and what mods dont get along with other mods, i will miss a fine print or 2. Link to comment
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