Short rant about Sexout stability...

[z4m0lx3s]

I've started playing NV a couple of weeks ago, since I'm bored with Oblivion, FO3 and Skyrim. After a lot of trial and error, I think I got a (mostly) working Sexout Tryouts install. Everything seems fine, went through a lot of the quests, and overall things were smooth, except when scripts would fail randomly.

 

Examples:

 

During the Legion slavery, Marissa would issue her demands when spoken to, until I saw her naked from a distance. When I spoke to her again, she got instantly dressed but the animations would never play. The error message was something related to 5.2 (sorry, did not write down the exact message). Kill resurrecting her seemingly solved the issue.

 

The approach scripts for power gangers, kings and legion work most of the time, except when they don't. The most common fault would be when saving near the School of Impersonation, Cottonwood Cove, Fort or NCRF, exiting the game and reloading. But this is happening randomly. Traveling away from the area, waiting a while seems to fix the scripts.

 

Working a shift at the Atomic Wrangler is not always offered, even if waiting more than a day away from the area in between talking to the owner.

 

But the biggest issue is talking to an NPC, reaching a point in the quest, then talking to them again right away and it's as if no conversation ever happened. I encountered this during Walk of Shame, when I could offer Sunny to Eddie as many times as I talked to him.

 

I'm running into several of these issues, where something happens that breaks the scripts and I don't know if these are Sexout issues, load order issues or cosmic karma preventing me from enjoyng the game.

 

Here's my load order:

 

 

 

FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
NewVegasExtendedMapMarkers.esp
MikotoBeauty.esm
Sexout.esm
SexoutSharedResources.esm
SexoutCommonResources.esm
SexoutSlavery.esm
SexoutLegion.esm
DarNifiedUINV.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
populatedcasino.esp
PerkEveryLevel.esp
CONELRAD 640-1240.esp
bzArmour.esp
SexoutZAZ.esp
SexoutWorkingGirl.esp
SmallerTalk.esp
SexoutKhans.esp
SexoutKings.esp
SexoutNCR.esp
SexoutPowderGangers.esp
st.esp
Type3MClothing.esp
Type3MClothing_HH.esp
Type3MClothing_OWB.esp
MikotoBeauty.esp
KDC_Companions_Removable_Armors.esp
SunnyCompanion.esp

Total active plugins: 37
Total plugins: 38

 

 

Latest versions of all plugins except for SCR which is the stable version.

[prideslayer]

During the Legion slavery, Marissa would issue her demands when spoken to, until I saw her naked from a distance. When I spoke to her again, she got instantly dressed but the animations would never play. The error message was something related to 5.2 (sorry, did not write down the exact message). Kill resurrecting her seemingly solved the issue.

If it happens again, please do get the exact error. It's a mystery why she was naked to begin with, she doesn't generally run around naked.

 

The approach scripts for power gangers, kings and legion work most of the time, except when they don't. The most common fault would be when saving near the School of Impersonation, Cottonwood Cove, Fort or NCRF, exiting the game and reloading. But this is happening randomly. Traveling away from the area, waiting a while seems to fix the scripts.

Sounds like normal behavior. Once approaches have all succeeded or failed, there's a timer before they try again. Travelling away resets it. How long have you waited in the area to see if it resumes? The cooldown is 5 minutes (real time) I think.

 

Working a shift at the Atomic Wrangler is not always offered, even if waiting more than a day away from the area in between talking to the owner.

 

But the biggest issue is talking to an NPC, reaching a point in the quest, then talking to them again right away and it's as if no conversation ever happened. I encountered this during Walk of Shame, when I could offer Sunny to Eddie as many times as I talked to him.

Will look into these.

 

I'm running into several of these issues, where something happens that breaks the scripts and I don't know if these are Sexout issues, load order issues or cosmic karma preventing me from enjoyng the game.

Sounds like a mix of things. Load order looks fine at a glance except the sunny companion esp. Don't load that (the one from tryouts) unless you have the sunny companion mod -- it looks like you don't. For Sexout and Tryouts, the versions you should be using are the betas, just in case.

[z4m0lx3s]

I will keep an eye out if Marissa or any other NPC gets bugged in a similar way. It happened before, it may again. I was unaware the cool down scripts have a 5 minute timer, something else I will try and track down. But my feeling is that they do stop working, and leaving the area or reloading the game resets them.

 

I have the Sunny Smiles companion from the Nexus installed, with the ESP from tryouts.

 

Versions of packages installed:

SexoutNG Core 2.6.78

SexoutNG Data 2.6.78

Sexout Tryout 05 Sept 2013 (with the Slavery, SSR included in it)

SCR 20130804

Spectrum Toys pack 20130707

ZAZ DataPack 20120806

Snallertalk 1.2.6

 

Which beta versions should I use? I have SCR 20130924 esm in my packages, and I can replace SCR 20130804 esm with it, but is there a SexoutNG beta version that works well?

 

BTW, I just saw your announcement about deprecating SSR, looking forward to those updates.

 

Edit: So I just tried something out... Start FONV, load save with my PC in Goodsprings, fast travel to the Fort and nobody approaches me. Tryout chance set at 25%, absolutely no tryout chance calculation messages in console. Only message is getvats 6,15. Walk up to the upper level of the fort, same thing.

[Halstrom]

If tou are using the SSR Tryout beta you need SSR

The main difference with the beta SCR is it has had Drugs and STD stripped out of it they are separate beta esps now.

[z4m0lx3s]

Upgraded to the latest SCR Beta (also added Pregnancy beta), released yesterday. Brought Cass to the Fort, got purposely enslaved by Marissa. Now when I get the tour, she repeats the dialogue 3+ times, the camera is messed up, and my PC disappears completely during the act. The camera stays messed up after the act. I did not change any settings from the previous SCR beta.

 

Now I'm not a newbie when it comes to mods, I have Oblivion with MBP, LPK and a massive amount of mods working almost flawlessly, and the same goes for FO3 and Skyrim. FONV and Sexout on the other hand got the best of me. I think I'll give it a couple of months for the latest betas to settle, and for SSR to be completely deprecated. Then I'll replay the whole game again.

[RitualClarity]

with the messed up camera try the button to bring up the pipboy. That usually works for me. A can't answer the other issues.

[z4m0lx3s]

with the messed up camera try the button to bring up the pipboy. That usually works for me. A can't answer the other issues.

 

Thanks, I will keep that in mind. But for now I am waiting on hal and pride to stabilize SCR and tryout a bit more. As soon as tryout will be fully updated with the vault 19 Epstein quest enabled, I'm replaying FONV.

 

I have a feeling having the stable Sexout, stable SCR then beta SCR, beta Tryouts all caused my savegame to get corrupted. It never got bad enough that the game would CTD, but I am sure it caused the scripts to malfunction somehow...

[Loogie]

Beta Tryouts aren't going to corrupt anything.

[Halstrom]

 

with the messed up camera try the button to bring up the pipboy. That usually works for me. A can't answer the other issues.

 

Thanks, I will keep that in mind. But for now I am waiting on hal and pride to stabilize SCR and tryout a bit more. As soon as tryout will be fully updated with the vault 19 Epstein quest enabled, I'm replaying FONV.

 

I have a feeling having the stable Sexout, stable SCR then beta SCR, beta Tryouts all caused my savegame to get corrupted. It never got bad enough that the game would CTD, but I am sure it caused the scripts to malfunction somehow...

 

SCR had a fair chunk hacked out of it so it may cause some issues requiring clean saves that's why it's still beta. Beta SCR really has nothing to do with beta Tryouts. Messed up camera could be anything, just a quirk with a saved game perhaps, the Fallout Engine is quirky like that, sometimes you just shutdown the game completely & restart and get different results to just reloading a saved game.

[RitualClarity]

I occasionally got the "messed up camera" and it would just fix itself shortly ( after a few animations not by itself) or after the next restart of the game. It is an occasional minor annoyance that can be quickly remedied.