Fallout 3 lags on very good rig?

[Guest]

Hello.  I am having decreased framerate problems in fallout 3, but m y pc is perfectly capable of handling it.  What should I do? I'm not going to post my specs as I know that CANNOT be the problem

[Ark of Truth]

1. This should be in the Fallout Technical Support forum. Please remember for next time.

2. We will be needing a load order from you.

[gregathit]

Fallout 3 is an older game engine and you may be just overwhelming its ability to keep up if you have too many HD texture mods installed.  Another thing that can slow things down is plugins with lots of scripts in them.  Ultimately we can't begin to help you unless you post both your computer specs and your load order.

 

Moving to Fallout Section.

[Guest]

1. This should be in the Fallout Technical Support forum. Please remember for next time.

2. We will be needing a load order from you.

 

I remember posting this in the technical support forum, strange...

Anyway, my load order:

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

ThePitt.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

FWE - Combat Overhaul_Core.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

HairPack.esm

StreetLights.esm

RRCompanionVault.esm

RR5MoreFemales.esm

RRGuards.esm

Sharing and Caring Companions.esm

Cotozic's Vault Home.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

EnhancedChildren.esm

AliciasCuteShop.esm

ImaginatorFO3.esp

CINEMATECH.esm

Fawkes Essential.esp

AnimalFriend-Insects-All.esp

AnimalFriend-Insects-Exclusions.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Comp_dont_steal_xp_hereticus.esp

Animal Friend-Radscorpions.esp

ScavengerHideoutENG.esp

ScavengerHideoutGER.esp

RR Companions 300 Follow Distance.esp

RRWastelandPosters.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

CaveHideout02.esp

Slam Sniper Package.esp

Wills Power Armor.esp

Dark Justice Duster.esp

MrSlackPants-NightVisionGogglesShades.esp

MrSlackPants-NightVisionGogglesNoModel.esp

FWE weapons pack.esp

Childhood Beginning.esp

AliciasCuteShopDoorOverride.esp

Cotozic'sVaultHomeGlobalPatch.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

RH_WMK_Bridge.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

FWE - Combat Overhaul_Equipment.esp

MMM - FWE_Combat Overhaul Master Release.esp

LobotamizerRifle.esp

VDSP-01.esp

SaveHotKey.esp

CASM.esp

26.esp(old merged patch I forgot to disable)

hair_add_npc.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp

MergedPatch27.esp

DYNAVISION - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp

Directors Chair - Fallout 3.esp

 

Total active plugins: 97

Total plugins: 137

 

[ChancellorKremlin]

... and the specs, please. 

[Dude500X]

Post the spec's they ARE needed, no one heres gives a toss about your e-peen dude, just post them so we can help.

 

There are many issues that Fallout 3 has with hardware, big rig or little rig.  Nvidia has unique issues that require ini edits for example. (personal experience)

 

Your load order is also quite messy.

 

 

[deathparade]

You said something about NVIDIA needed special edits... tell me about these please

BTW we would really like to see your specs

But first we suggest to run BOSS over your load order https://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/downloads/list

[Slammer64]

One thing you have to remember about Bethesda's older games is that they are processor intensive, not GPU intensive, That means that it's your processor that may be causing a bottleneck. Another thing about older Bethesda games is that they are not multi-core aware, in fact FO3 needs a special edit in it's ini file to help prevent freezes because of modern multi-core processors. Here's the edit:  Some dual core and quad core CPU users have said that by inserting a new command iNumHWThreads=2 under the General section of Fallout.ini, and setting it to a value of 1, 2 or 4 (typically 2), this prevents freezing at certain points in the game. That may help if you haven't got it in your ini already.

[BruceWayne]

One thing you have to remember about Bethesda's older games is that they are processor intensive, not GPU intensive, That means that it's your processor that may be causing a bottleneck. Another thing about older Bethesda games is that they are not multi-core aware, in fact FO3 needs a special edit in it's ini file to help prevent freezes because of modern multi-core processors. Here's the edit:  Some dual core and quad core CPU users have said that by inserting a new command iNumHWThreads=2 under the General section of Fallout.ini, and setting it to a value of 1, 2 or 4 (typically 2), this prevents freezing at certain points in the game. That may help if you haven't got it in your ini already.

 

Actually, in order to use that tweak, the value bUseThreadedAI has to be set to 1 as well. If those values don't exist in the ini you have to add them yourself at the bottom of the [general] list.

[General]
...
...
 
bUseThreadedAI=1
iNumHWThreads=2,4,8, ... (depends on the number of cores your CPU has)

[ChancellorKremlin]

... and to make matters more confusing, I've found setting that value over anything other than 1 dramatically increases crashes and CTD's. Ever since I put it down to one I've not had a single crash, which is remarkable.

 

So I guess what we're saying is.... experiment 

[BruceWayne]

... and to make matters more confusing, I've found setting that value over anything other than 1 dramatically increases crashes and CTD's. Ever since I put it down to one I've not had a single crash, which is remarkable.

 

So I guess what we're saying is.... experiment 

 

All I can say to that, is that I never experienced such a thing with iNumHWThreads=4 for my I7 cpu...

[RitualClarity]

Post the spec's they ARE needed, no one heres gives a toss about your e-peen dude, just post them so we can help.

 

There are many issues that Fallout 3 has with hardware, big rig or little rig.  Nvidia has unique issues that require ini edits for example. (personal experience)

 

Your load order is also quite messy.

I never had any issues with nVidia graphic cards and FNV.

 

You said something about NVIDIA needed special edits... tell me about these please

I'd like to know as well. I have a GTX670 and no problems.

 

All I can say to that, is that I never experienced such a thing with iNumHWThreads=4 for my I7 cpu...

Neither did I with an i7. (older model not the current one) Not until I moved to the new AMD 8150 did I start having issues that the thread modifications helped. Recently I too moved to 1 and it is stable as hell.