gimmeemods Posted March 5, 2021 Posted March 5, 2021 I am not new to modding or modding skyrim but very out of practice. I had a great build setup on my old laptop that has burned out and i cant replicate. So for a change of pace i decided since I'm going with SE instead of Old Oldrim (Wasn't even running LE before), I would do a STEP install. Followed it to the letter. It's gorgeous. Best looking Skyrim I have ever played. No conflicts. Then depravity kicks in and a need to add CBBE, SOS, and Sexlab stuff. I install CBBE and swap my body textures for the same ones added by STEP, but the CBBE version (Tempered Skins for Females). Run FNIS. Still stable. Then I move on to SoS. I install SoS. not replacing any skeletons. I believe I have the right one already from installing XPMSE, as its needed for just about everything already. I install Tempered Skins for Males, SoS version. I run FNIS. But now when I start the game i get a flash of a small black window, and then full CTD. As soon as I disable SoS and swap my skin textures back to the Regular version of Tempered Skins the CTD goes away instantly. The issue seems to happen no matter where I rearrange XPMSE and/or SoS in my load order. I have tried reinstalling each element in question in various orders and arrangements. No luck. CTD before I even get to the game menu. Please help in any way you can and thank you in advance for any suggestions. Been beating myself over the head for a week now. Here is my LOOT load order, SoS and skins active. (It is STEP so its massive.): 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 7 7 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 8 8 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 9 9 FISS.esp 254 FE 0 UHDAP - en0.esp 254 FE 1 UHDAP - en1.esp 254 FE 2 UHDAP - en2.esp 254 FE 3 UHDAP - en3.esp 254 FE 4 UHDAP - en4.esp 254 FE 5 UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp 10 a MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm 11 b TKChildren.esm 254 FE 6 SimpleChildren.esp 254 FE 7 Landscape and Water Fixes.esp 254 FE 8 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp 254 FE 9 AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl 254 FE a AHZmoreHUD.esl 12 c FarmhouseChimneys.esp 13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 14 e SkyUI_SE.esp 15 f dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp 16 10 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp 254 FE b Butterflies.esp 17 11 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp 254 FE c Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp 18 12 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 19 13 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 20 14 Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp 21 15 Gildergreen Regrown.esp 22 16 RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp 23 17 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 24 18 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 25 19 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 254 FE d Frost Meshes Patch.esp 26 1a DustEffectsSSE.esp 27 1b Enhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.esp 28 1c Footprints.esp 254 FE e Footprints - ENB.esp 254 FE f HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposits SE.esp 29 1d SparklesSE.esp 30 1e ORM-Arvak.esp 31 1f IHSS.esp 32 20 Beards.esp 33 21 Brows.esp 34 22 LRR - Alternative - by LeonardoTrote.esp 35 23 NB-Scars.esp 36 24 VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp 37 25 QuickShotBugFix.esp 38 26 CrittersAintSnitches.esp 39 27 ReasonableMovementSpeed.esp 40 28 Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge SSE.esp 41 29 GIST soul trap.esp 42 2a RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted - GIST.esp 43 2b SmoothShores.esp 44 2c Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp 45 2d ETaC - Complete.esp 46 2e AI Overhaul.esp 47 2f Cutting Room Floor.esp 48 30 Better Dynamic Ash.esp 49 31 Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp 50 32 Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp 254 FE 10 MajesticMountains.esp 51 33 Cathedral Landscapes.esp 52 34 Elemental_Staffs.esp 53 35 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 54 36 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 55 37 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp 56 38 imp_helm_legend.esp 57 39 ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp 58 3a SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp 254 FE 11 FacegenForKids.esp 59 3b Hunters Not Bandits.esp 254 FE 12 Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - Relighting Skyrim.esp 254 FE 13 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 60 3c Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp 61 3d Faction_Fixes_Vanilla.esp 62 3e WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp 63 3f Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp 254 FE 14 TavernAIFix.esp 64 40 Disease Descriptions.esp 65 41 GoOnAhead.esp 66 42 Improved Traps.esp 67 43 hearthfireextended.esp 68 44 Point The Way.esp 69 45 Snotgurg Simple Drop Lit Torches.esp 70 46 Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp 254 FE 15 BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp 71 47 Oakwood.esp 72 48 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp 73 49 TheChoiceIsYours.esp 74 4a Run For Your Lives.esp 75 4b ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp 76 4c EmbersHD.esp 77 4d Oblivion Gates Remade.esp 78 4e Bring Out Your Dead.esp 79 4f Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp 80 50 Helarchen Creek.esp 81 51 TKChildren.esp 254 FE 16 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp 254 FE 17 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 254 FE 18 HereWeGoAgain.esp 82 52 TimingIsEverything.esp 83 53 Lock_Overhaul.esp 84 54 BetterContainerControls.esp 85 55 iHUD.esp 86 56 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 87 57 RaceMenu.esp 88 58 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 89 59 ViewableFactionRanks.esp 254 FE 19 Oblivion Gates Remade - Mountain Texture with MM Shader.esp 90 5a Cathedral Weathers.esp 91 5b getSnowy.esp 254 FE 1a CathedralWeatherMCM.esp 254 FE 1b StormLightning.esp 92 5c WondersofWeather.esp 93 5d FNIS.esp 254 FE 1c imp_helm_legend_WACCF_Patch.esp 254 FE 1d TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp 254 FE 1e Cutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp 254 FE 1f The Choice is Yours - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp 254 FE 20 WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp 94 5e CBBE.esp 95 5f RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 96 60 ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp 97 61 SOSRaceMenu.esp 98 62 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 99 63 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp 100 64 Convenient Horses.esp 254 FE 21 Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp 254 FE 22 Landscape For Grass Mods - Oakwood PATCH.esp 101 65 PilgrimsDelight.esp 102 66 NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp 103 67 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 254 FE 23 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp 104 68 NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp 254 FE 24 RBB - Oakwood Patch.esp 254 FE 25 RBB - USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 26 Oblivion Gates Remade - Map Markers.esp 105 69 XPMSE.esp 106 6a Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 107 6b SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 108 6c SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 109 6d SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 110 6e Trade & Barter.esp 111 6f Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp 112 70 Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp 113 71 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 114 72 ButterfliesUnchained.esp 254 FE 27 ButterfliesUnchained - CACO Patch.esp 254 FE 28 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp 254 FE 29 CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp 115 73 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 254 FE 2a BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp 254 FE 2b Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp 116 74 ELE_SSE.esp 254 FE 2c ELE_SSE_CRF.esp 254 FE 2d ETaC Complete - ELE Patch.esp 117 75 Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp 118 76 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 119 77 Step Skyrim SE - CR Patch.esp 120 78 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 254 FE 2e Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp 121 79 STEP Skyrim SE - L&W Patch.esp 122 7a Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp If anyone would like any skse or net crash reports I can get those too, but honestly that is all gibberish to me so that is the one element of this I havent experimented with yet.
Just Don't Posted March 5, 2021 Posted March 5, 2021 SOS comes with a dll file, so if you're using a version incompatible with your installed SKSE you'll get a CTD. So check that (the info about the version compatibility is in the description of the SOS for SE).
gimmeemods Posted March 5, 2021 Author Posted March 5, 2021 I am using the most recent edition of SKSE with most recent Skyrim SE. I am using this: Is there some other version I should be using?
Just Don't Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 That SOS version should do for SKSE 2.0.17/2.019. Are you sure you're using the SE one and not the VR? (both are available as files to download from that page). I can't think of other reasons to get a replicable CTD before reaching the main menu. The order in which you load XPMSSE/SOS shouldn't matter here (for loadorder LOOT should do, for the left panel in MO2/Vortex priority you can guarantee XPMSSE skeletons will be used instead of the SOS ones by placing XPMSSE below SOS in MO's left pane, or giving it a higher priority in Vortex), but a conflict of skeletons shouldn't crash your game at that point. Isn't there any warning or notification in MO2?
anjenthedog Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 fwiw, here's my load order contentions list for SOS (same version Just Don't suggested), albeit in Vortex form Maybe it'll illuminate something in your own load, if not, sorry for the bother Spoiler edit: I will note that I use SKSE64 2.0.17, so I'm not sure about 2.0.19 (can't use it in my game. Skyrim won't load if I do)
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