Game keeps on loading

[endomiel]

At times, my game keeps on loading when loading a savegame, or entering/exiting a location.

Starting a new game and loading from there, makes it work again.

Is this is auto/quicksave bug? Once encountered, is the save corrupted?

 

Below is my modlist, if it helps.

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
Advanced Recon Tech.esm
Project Nevada - Core.esm
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
CFWNV.esm
JIP Selective-Fire.esm
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm
WMR.esm
Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp
Project Nevada - All DLC.esp
WeaponModsExpanded.esp
dressup.esp
Advanced Recon Equipment Patcher NV.esp
Advanced Recon Gear.esp
Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp
Advanced Recon Tech.esp
Balanced Skill Perks.esp
MainStoryAlterations.esp
BazzasExtraMapMarkers.esp
BushSounds.esp
WMX-DLCMerged.esp
CFW-DLC.esp
Project Nevada - WMX.esp
CM4A1.esp
Cowboy Expanded PN.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp
DeadMoneyRealisticGoldBarWeight.esp
EnergyWeaponDeNerf.esp
Further3rdPersonCamera.esp
Snow Globe Quest.esp
JokerineEnergyMerchant.esp
LothPAperks.esp
Ghost Variants Adjutant.esp
Ghost Varient - PN Patch.esp
JTmercgear.esp
Widowmaker-UniqueLeverActionWeapon.esp
JTmercgearlite.esp
GiftedTrait 2.esp
GtabImprovedAmmo.esp
Handgun Perks v1.3.esp
JIP Companions Command & Control.esp
MoreMerchantCaps.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp
SignatureArmor.esp
SignatureWeapons.esp
Special Snow globes.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Rifleman Perk - PN+GRA.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp
WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp
WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp
WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp
WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp
WMR_Vanilla_S.esp
WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp
WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp
WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp
WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp
WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp
WMX-POPMerged.esp
Wild Wasteland Integration.esp
NWghostbodysuit.esp
Leather Armors.esp
Prewar_clothing.esp
RangerPatrolFactionless.esp
TG Blackwidow type3.esp
ClassyVeronica.esp
Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp
ExtendedNVRadio.esp
FCO - NPC Changes.esp
FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp
FCOMaster.esm
HairPatcher.esp
ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp
ILO - PipBoy Light.esp
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp
Mail Order Catalogs WMX Merged.esp
Mail Order Catalogs WMX Modern Weapons.esp
Mail Order Catalogs.esp
MikotoBeauty.esm
MikotoBeauty.esp
NRN.esp
NVLadyoutfitXOH.esp
Tailor Maid - NV.esp
Vurt's WFO.esp
WMRXSMerged.esp
WMX-DeadMoney.esp
WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp
WMX-HonestHearts.esp
WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp
WMX-ModernWeapons.esp
WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp
zzjayHairsFNV.esp
CASM with MCM.esp
NevadaSkies.esm
NS - DLC.esp

 

 

Thanks for reading this far! ?

 

 

[dborg2]

7 hours ago, endomiel said:

At times, my game keeps on loading when loading a savegame, or entering/exiting a location.

Starting a new game and loading from there, makes it work again.

Is this is auto/quicksave bug? Once encountered, is the save corrupted?

 

Below is my modlist, if it helps.

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
Advanced Recon Tech.esm
Project Nevada - Core.esm
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
CFWNV.esm
JIP Selective-Fire.esm
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm
WMR.esm
Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp
Project Nevada - All DLC.esp
WeaponModsExpanded.esp
dressup.esp
Advanced Recon Equipment Patcher NV.esp
Advanced Recon Gear.esp
Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp
Advanced Recon Tech.esp
Balanced Skill Perks.esp
MainStoryAlterations.esp
BazzasExtraMapMarkers.esp
BushSounds.esp
WMX-DLCMerged.esp
CFW-DLC.esp
Project Nevada - WMX.esp
CM4A1.esp
Cowboy Expanded PN.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp
DeadMoneyRealisticGoldBarWeight.esp
EnergyWeaponDeNerf.esp
Further3rdPersonCamera.esp
Snow Globe Quest.esp
JokerineEnergyMerchant.esp
LothPAperks.esp
Ghost Variants Adjutant.esp
Ghost Varient - PN Patch.esp
JTmercgear.esp
Widowmaker-UniqueLeverActionWeapon.esp
JTmercgearlite.esp
GiftedTrait 2.esp
GtabImprovedAmmo.esp
Handgun Perks v1.3.esp
JIP Companions Command & Control.esp
MoreMerchantCaps.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp
SignatureArmor.esp
SignatureWeapons.esp
Special Snow globes.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
The Rifleman Perk - PN+GRA.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp
WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp
WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp
WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp
WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp
WMR_Vanilla_S.esp
WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp
WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp
WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp
WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp
WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp
WMX-POPMerged.esp
Wild Wasteland Integration.esp
NWghostbodysuit.esp
Leather Armors.esp
Prewar_clothing.esp
RangerPatrolFactionless.esp
TG Blackwidow type3.esp
ClassyVeronica.esp
Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp
ExtendedNVRadio.esp
FCO - NPC Changes.esp
FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp
FCOMaster.esm
HairPatcher.esp
ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp
ILO - PipBoy Light.esp
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp
Mail Order Catalogs WMX Merged.esp
Mail Order Catalogs WMX Modern Weapons.esp
Mail Order Catalogs.esp
MikotoBeauty.esm
MikotoBeauty.esp
NRN.esp
NVLadyoutfitXOH.esp
Tailor Maid - NV.esp
Vurt's WFO.esp
WMRXSMerged.esp
WMX-DeadMoney.esp
WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp
WMX-HonestHearts.esp
WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp
WMX-ModernWeapons.esp
WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp
zzjayHairsFNV.esp
CASM with MCM.esp
NevadaSkies.esm
NS - DLC.esp

 

 

Thanks for reading this far! ?

 

 

You have CASM.. Set it up to not make incremental saves or quicksaves,  but set it to do full saves..

Those saves will take longer, but it will help against save corruption.

Especially, because it seems you are running with many script-heavy mods.

 

 

Is hairpatcher the mod that scans all mods to offer you all hairs from all mods in the show-race-menu? If so, disable it after you created your character.
***Unless you change your character's appearance everytime you play FNV.

 

 

 

btw, you have some ESM's that are WAY TO LOW in the load order.  ESM's (and esp's flagged as esms) always go to the top.

[endomiel]

Thanks. I hadn't used CASM yet.

Nevada Skies has a bug where it causes flickering if it doesn't go at the bottom.

 

Good call about hairpatcher, though.

[A.J.]

55 minutes ago, endomiel said:

Good call about hairpatcher, though.

Hair Patcher builds modified lists of hairs everytime the game launches, distributing every type of hair on every type of playable race. It uses non-persistent NVSE functions, so doing that causes this:

With hair patcher:

 

Without hair patcher - the character has a certain hair on the save, which is not present when you reload since hair patcher was disabled and didn't rebuild the lists:

 

What hair patcher does is explicitly stated when it starts: a message will tell you how much time was needed to process the lists, in milliseconds. So, what you only need to think is: "can I wait (hair patcher message) seconds more to load the game, or it's too much for me?", nothing else, no other downsides attached. If that time is too high, you can try Hair Patcher 2, which allows to optimise narrowing down the usable races. But no there's no other way to do it unless you don't make your own patch on GECK / xEdit.

 

I think your problem is the one involving races which pests gamebryo since always and it's present in every beth game, it was corrected only recently on skyrim LE thanks to a dll but I've never seen that dll on NV. I don't think there's a real way to solve it in NV. But there's a faster way that MAYBE could help you. You start a new game, you open the console and write SAVE 1 (you can write whatever name, but the shorter the better for you), then when you launch NV and arrive on the main menu you open console and LOAD 1, it should load that very first save, from there you can load your real save. It's a similar workaround to what was used in a certain Skyrim mod before the dll I mentioned above.

 

[endomiel]

I tried putting all the ESM (barring Nevada Skies) as high as possible, along with their ESP, but MO2 seems determined that some mods should stay where they are. For example, I can't put the ILO esp under the ESM, because it wants FCO.esm to be inbetween them.

 

Adjusting CASM seems to mitigate the issue, but I guess I should start a new game, with only reliance on full saves.