endomiel Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 At times, my game keeps on loading when loading a savegame, or entering/exiting a location. Starting a new game and loading from there, makes it work again. Is this is auto/quicksave bug? Once encountered, is the save corrupted? Below is my modlist, if it helps. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Advanced Recon Tech.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Equipment.esm CFWNV.esm JIP Selective-Fire.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm WMR.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp Project Nevada - All DLC.esp WeaponModsExpanded.esp dressup.esp Advanced Recon Equipment Patcher NV.esp Advanced Recon Gear.esp Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp Advanced Recon Tech.esp Balanced Skill Perks.esp MainStoryAlterations.esp BazzasExtraMapMarkers.esp BushSounds.esp WMX-DLCMerged.esp CFW-DLC.esp Project Nevada - WMX.esp CM4A1.esp Cowboy Expanded PN.esp DarNifiedUINV.esp Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp DeadMoneyRealisticGoldBarWeight.esp EnergyWeaponDeNerf.esp Further3rdPersonCamera.esp Snow Globe Quest.esp JokerineEnergyMerchant.esp LothPAperks.esp Ghost Variants Adjutant.esp Ghost Varient - PN Patch.esp JTmercgear.esp Widowmaker-UniqueLeverActionWeapon.esp JTmercgearlite.esp GiftedTrait 2.esp GtabImprovedAmmo.esp Handgun Perks v1.3.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp MoreMerchantCaps.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp SignatureArmor.esp SignatureWeapons.esp Special Snow globes.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp The Rifleman Perk - PN+GRA.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp WMR_Vanilla_S.esp WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp WMX-POPMerged.esp Wild Wasteland Integration.esp NWghostbodysuit.esp Leather Armors.esp Prewar_clothing.esp RangerPatrolFactionless.esp TG Blackwidow type3.esp ClassyVeronica.esp Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp ExtendedNVRadio.esp FCO - NPC Changes.esp FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp FCOMaster.esm HairPatcher.esp ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp ILO - PipBoy Light.esp Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp Mail Order Catalogs WMX Merged.esp Mail Order Catalogs WMX Modern Weapons.esp Mail Order Catalogs.esp MikotoBeauty.esm MikotoBeauty.esp NRN.esp NVLadyoutfitXOH.esp Tailor Maid - NV.esp Vurt's WFO.esp WMRXSMerged.esp WMX-DeadMoney.esp WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp WMX-HonestHearts.esp WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp WMX-ModernWeapons.esp WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp zzjayHairsFNV.esp CASM with MCM.esp NevadaSkies.esm NS - DLC.esp Thanks for reading this far! ?
dborg2 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 7 hours ago, endomiel said: At times, my game keeps on loading when loading a savegame, or entering/exiting a location. Starting a new game and loading from there, makes it work again. Is this is auto/quicksave bug? Once encountered, is the save corrupted? Below is my modlist, if it helps. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Advanced Recon Tech.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Equipment.esm CFWNV.esm JIP Selective-Fire.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm WMR.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp Project Nevada - All DLC.esp WeaponModsExpanded.esp dressup.esp Advanced Recon Equipment Patcher NV.esp Advanced Recon Gear.esp Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp Advanced Recon Tech.esp Balanced Skill Perks.esp MainStoryAlterations.esp BazzasExtraMapMarkers.esp BushSounds.esp WMX-DLCMerged.esp CFW-DLC.esp Project Nevada - WMX.esp CM4A1.esp Cowboy Expanded PN.esp DarNifiedUINV.esp Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp DeadMoneyRealisticGoldBarWeight.esp EnergyWeaponDeNerf.esp Further3rdPersonCamera.esp Snow Globe Quest.esp JokerineEnergyMerchant.esp LothPAperks.esp Ghost Variants Adjutant.esp Ghost Varient - PN Patch.esp JTmercgear.esp Widowmaker-UniqueLeverActionWeapon.esp JTmercgearlite.esp GiftedTrait 2.esp GtabImprovedAmmo.esp Handgun Perks v1.3.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp MoreMerchantCaps.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp SignatureArmor.esp SignatureWeapons.esp Special Snow globes.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp The Rifleman Perk - PN+GRA.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp WMR_Vanilla_S.esp WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp WMX-POPMerged.esp Wild Wasteland Integration.esp NWghostbodysuit.esp Leather Armors.esp Prewar_clothing.esp RangerPatrolFactionless.esp TG Blackwidow type3.esp ClassyVeronica.esp Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp ExtendedNVRadio.esp FCO - NPC Changes.esp FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp FCOMaster.esm HairPatcher.esp ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp ILO - PipBoy Light.esp Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp Mail Order Catalogs WMX Merged.esp Mail Order Catalogs WMX Modern Weapons.esp Mail Order Catalogs.esp MikotoBeauty.esm MikotoBeauty.esp NRN.esp NVLadyoutfitXOH.esp Tailor Maid - NV.esp Vurt's WFO.esp WMRXSMerged.esp WMX-DeadMoney.esp WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp WMX-HonestHearts.esp WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp WMX-ModernWeapons.esp WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp zzjayHairsFNV.esp CASM with MCM.esp NevadaSkies.esm NS - DLC.esp Thanks for reading this far! ? You have CASM.. Set it up to not make incremental saves or quicksaves, but set it to do full saves.. Those saves will take longer, but it will help against save corruption. Especially, because it seems you are running with many script-heavy mods. Is hairpatcher the mod that scans all mods to offer you all hairs from all mods in the show-race-menu? If so, disable it after you created your character. ***Unless you change your character's appearance everytime you play FNV. btw, you have some ESM's that are WAY TO LOW in the load order. ESM's (and esp's flagged as esms) always go to the top.
endomiel Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 Thanks. I hadn't used CASM yet. Nevada Skies has a bug where it causes flickering if it doesn't go at the bottom. Good call about hairpatcher, though.
Guest Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, endomiel said: Good call about hairpatcher, though. Hair Patcher builds modified lists of hairs everytime the game launches, distributing every type of hair on every type of playable race. It uses non-persistent NVSE functions, so doing that causes this: With hair patcher: Without hair patcher - the character has a certain hair on the save, which is not present when you reload since hair patcher was disabled and didn't rebuild the lists: What hair patcher does is explicitly stated when it starts: a message will tell you how much time was needed to process the lists, in milliseconds. So, what you only need to think is: "can I wait (hair patcher message) seconds more to load the game, or it's too much for me?", nothing else, no other downsides attached. If that time is too high, you can try Hair Patcher 2, which allows to optimise narrowing down the usable races. But no there's no other way to do it unless you don't make your own patch on GECK / xEdit. I think your problem is the one involving races which pests gamebryo since always and it's present in every beth game, it was corrected only recently on skyrim LE thanks to a dll but I've never seen that dll on NV. I don't think there's a real way to solve it in NV. But there's a faster way that MAYBE could help you. You start a new game, you open the console and write SAVE 1 (you can write whatever name, but the shorter the better for you), then when you launch NV and arrive on the main menu you open console and LOAD 1, it should load that very first save, from there you can load your real save. It's a similar workaround to what was used in a certain Skyrim mod before the dll I mentioned above.
endomiel Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 I tried putting all the ESM (barring Nevada Skies) as high as possible, along with their ESP, but MO2 seems determined that some mods should stay where they are. For example, I can't put the ILO esp under the ESM, because it wants FCO.esm to be inbetween them. Adjusting CASM seems to mitigate the issue, but I guess I should start a new game, with only reliance on full saves.
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