load order gone wrong

[UnholyDeath]

load order is gone wrong then game is crashes 

 i used :

1 LOOT 

2 MOD Organizer 

3 manually edit plugins.txt in appdata 

in mod organizer  i need to change the launcher on steam app.exe because oblivion launcher worked but without OBSE 

 and  this goddamn steam version of oblivion  change my load order on  that damn  alpabethical load order  i can see it  when i open data files on launcher its not like i set it .

 if i try to load this game with wrong load order :

 after a some mods loaded the screen is freese  i need to shut down the game 

 

 

[Just Don't]

15 minutes ago, UnholyDeath said:

in mod organizer  i need to change the launcher on steam app.exe because oblivion launcher worked but without OBSE 

 

Why? If you use MO you just need to let the obse_loader.exe as the default executable and run the game through MO.

 

18 minutes ago, UnholyDeath said:

and  this goddamn steam version of oblivion  change my load order on  that damn  alpabethical load order  i can see it  when i open data files on launcher its not like i set it .

What launcher? again, all you need to do is use MO.

 

Once you download the game from Steam you shouldn't need to edit or do anything to Steam to make it work. It sounds like you have all your mods in MO and sorted your loadorder with LOOT but then you just open the game from Steam without MO or obse_loader.exe at all.

[fejeena]

LOOT can sort the Mods that you get freese and CTD.

NEVER use LOOT for Oblivion ! Use BOSS.

 

Read my yellow Link below.

Read : 

Basics tools you need:

-OBSE 20 or 21

And in the spoiler you see:  " And for MO users (Mod Organicer2 ) "

 

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And see below how to sort Mods.

Load order - Mod sorting:

Use BOSS ! NOT LOOT !

[UnholyDeath]

8 hours ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said:

Why? If you use MO you just need to let the obse_loader.exe as the default executable and run the game through MO.

 

What launcher? again, all you need to do is use MO.

 

Once you download the game from Steam you shouldn't need to edit or do anything to Steam to make it work. It sounds like you have all your mods in MO and sorted your loadorder with LOOT but then you just open the game from Steam without MO or obse_loader.exe at all.

 i cant launch the game from MO if i do : the game is launches but OBSE not 

(because of steam)

maybe its a C/program files        fault  but article with how to copy my steam game  is now 503 forbidden (

 

tomorrow i will try the BOSS and  change folder of the game 

 

the freeze was before the LOOT i ve tryed to cure this situation with LOOT (

[Just Don't]

To be able to launch OBSE from MO check this.

 

And fejeena is right, you better use BOSS for sorting your loadorder. I've been away from Oblivion mods for too long, but it seems BOSS is still the way to go. So I stand corrected.

[fejeena]

You can use C  but not C : program files ...

 

And how to move steam and the game https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129

 

And MO with OBSE :   dontknowdontcaredontask posted the same Link that is in my yellow Link.

[UnholyDeath]

12 hours ago, fejeena said:

 

 

this link  is :  https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129  

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 but i found this http://www.stefanjones.ca/steam/ 

 now the game in E folder  i use MO  through oblivion .exewith a Dll but 

 still freeze at the start 

Oblivion.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Gorangas Economy System.esp
Knights.esp
LoversChorus.esp
LoversHorseRider2.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LBPMill.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
xLCR.esp
LoversProstitute NoMBP.esp
LoversProstituteFeej.esp
BitchTattoo.esp 
Lovers GenderBender.esp

 

 

 

 maybe i broke knights.esm with tes4edit 

and now BOSS dont want to work because  it s cant fimnd the game in E folder and BUM dosent work because cant find a masterlist  i ve tryed to  create it manually ((( 

[gregathit]

Do not attempt to clean or modify the original game files.  It will break shit.

[UnholyDeath]

i found knights.esp 

i think i need knights.bsa too , but  i cant find it online  

 

[fejeena]

In my yellow Link below is a example load order.

 

And BOSS does not care where you have installed the game.

But if you have moved your game you have to install BOSS again ( because BOSS still try to find the "old" game location )

I never run the BOSS tool, I use the BOSS masterlist txt file and sort manually.

 

And your load order is not right.

 

And the link dontknowdontcaredontask and I  posted works fine, I tested it just now.

[fejeena]

5 minutes ago, UnholyDeath said:

i found knights.esp 

i think i need knights.bsa too , but  i cant find it online  

 

If you have downloaded the DLCs from steam you can download it again.

 

If you have not bought knights dlc then no one will help you, because Loverslab do not allow piracy.

[UnholyDeath]

2 hours ago, fejeena said:

 

 

And BOSS does not care where you have installed the game.

But if you have moved your game you have to install BOSS again ( because BOSS still try to find the "old" game location )

 

i reinstal the game then i reinstal the BOSS and 

 in BOSS selecting  menu   i can see : oblivion (not found) ((( 

 

 aaaand its not knights.esp  or bsa afterv reinstalling still freeze . now i cant run the BOSS 

because he dint see the game in E folder 

 i reinstall that Boss 2 times 

 

 i found the root of problem 

 

 by using the OBMM  conflict finding tool  its 

 

Record type: Script (SCPT)
EDID: xLoversCmnGetCreatureType
FormID: 02000ED3

Overrides original entry in 'Lovers with PK.esm'
Conflicts with Lovers with PK.esp
 

and change of load order dont help me 

 reinstal  both mods dont help too 

and 

Record type: Script (SCPT)
EDID: xLoversCmnGetCreatureType
FormID: 02000ED3

Overrides original entry in 'Lovers with PK.esm'
Conflicts with Lovers with PK.esp

 

and 

Record type: Script (SCPT)
EDID: xLoversCmnGetCreatureTypeEx
FormID: 020067EB

Overrides original entry in 'Lovers with PK.esm'
Conflicts with Lovers with PK.esp
 for both .eps

[fejeena]

I have not used the BOSS tool for about 10 years, but I am sure you set the game path. Enter the right game path and it will work.

(Like OBMM and OMods. I do not have my OMods in my game folder, so I set the path to MY Omod folder in the OBMM settings. )

 

And I tell you again, do not use the BOSS tool, use the masterlist txt file  and sort manually.

 

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And Lovers with PK and Lovers creature : That is no conflict !!!! Thats how all plugins work.

If you want to  change something in the Oblivion esm you create a plugin ( a new esp/esm) and it will overwrite the original.

 

You can use Lovers with PK (LAPF) without creatures if you do not want creatures sex.

If you want creatures sex you add the plugin "Lovers creatures".   And the plugin have to overwrite many things in the  Lovers with PK.esm/esp.

Yes Lovers creatures  overwrite some Lovers with PK scripts.  And you have to install Lovers creatures after LAPF because it have to overwrite some esp ( LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp )

 

The same with Lovers with PK esm and the Lovers with PK esp.

The esp overwrites many things in the esm.

( The same with DLCs esp and Oblivion esm )

 

That's how plugins and Mods work.

 

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So sort your Mods manually ! See my example load order. And then start your game.

And I hope you have read my yellow Link.