Raz' Posted March 17, 2016 Author Posted March 17, 2016 Big pack coming today. All it's done except picture. I really hope you'll like it coz it took me a long time, much more than expected Edit : Verhoven you'll have extra work
Zentsuken Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 Woohoo! Cannot wait, always love seeing new updates to your mod collection.
Raz' Posted March 17, 2016 Author Posted March 17, 2016 Available Many more to come, may be tomorrow if I have free time.
tskone Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 MAXIMUM APPROVAL!!!! Nice work om these (Tina and Mila look great). Thank you so much for your energy on all these releases. Available Many more to come, may be tomorrow if I have free time.
Perry_p Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 This Sexy Overalls pack is very nice, your work is becoming even more complete and even more beautiful!
Raz' Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 Thank you guys i've finished many outfits. I've to make screenshot & upload it. it's the part of the job that bothers me most ...
LGMODS Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Again some great mod here Raz' ! Taking screenshots is almost as long as create a mod lol
kassarc16 Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Great overalls. It's a bummer you have reservations about Marie's natural figure, but at least the transformer tool can remedy that for us if needed.
Raz' Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 Thank you everyone Glad you love my work ! Kassarc : work is done, i mean you can easily replace the original body of Marie if that's what you want. Again some great mod here Raz' ! Taking screenshots is almost as long as create a mod lol totally agree. But creating mod is not a pain in the ass ^^
Raz' Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 I forgot to make icons for Marie & Kasumi overalls It's done. First page
Verhoven69 Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Big pack coming today. All it's done except picture. I really hope you'll like it coz it took me a long time, much more than expected Edit : Verhoven you'll have extra work Darn! Need to update Ayane, Hitomi and Honoka.
Mikkukan Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 Big pack coming today. All it's done except picture. I really hope you'll like it coz it took me a long time, much more than expected Edit : Verhoven you'll have extra work Darn! Need to update Ayane, Hitomi and Honoka. Oh oh I can't wait... what is it this time, the casino pack?
Raz' Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 I don't know, i've many outfits to upload, and a pack of outfits, but no, it's not a casino pack A guy this time. I made a mix of Cos002 & the wherewolf version. First page Right now i've modified many outfits I will unfortunately not be able to share (made by others modders)
mrmojorisin Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 I dont understand the whole "not able to share" thing. Everyone that makes mods is doing it without Team Ninja's permission to begin with, and they are the real owners. I guess it's an "honor among thieves" thing I suppose.
Raz' Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 I agree with you (look at the first page), but unfornutately many modders want to be asked for their permission... Permission they've not asked to Capcom or Namco in that case. When I do a mod based upon DOA5 I share it and let everyone do what they want with my work. Modify, reupload, even say it's their work, seriously, I don't care.
siframe Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 It's all about getting some reward for your efforts- Team Ninja make plenty of money already, so we take that as them being rewarded enough, and consider our ownership of a copy of their game to be our right to mess with it I guess. The modder however can't charge for their work, so a little acknowledgement in a credits list or a thank you or just being able to watch the download numbers going up is as much as they can ask for. Most humans like to feel appreciated, I guess you're one of the rare ones Raz, if you really don't care. I kinda know what you mean, cos I make music without ever really caring if anyone else likes it, I make it because I can and I enjoy it, so that's a reward in itself. We're social creatures though, so such an attitude isn't common, most prefer to feel acknowledged for their achievements, and to my mind that's not such a high asking price for the hours of skilled labour offered on sites like this.
Farphignougen Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 I dont understand the whole "not able to share" thing. Everyone that makes mods is doing it without Team Ninja's permission to begin with, and they are the real owners. I guess it's an "honor among thieves" thing I suppose. Modding communities tend to attract extremely fussy, overly dramatic, possibly even unstable people. Look at holdenmcclure's troubles with that Japanese group, look at Tessara or Arthmoor, and you see this stuff just keeps happening.
Raz' Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 It's all about getting some reward for your efforts- Team Ninja make plenty of money already, so we take that as them being rewarded enough, and consider our ownership of a copy of their game to be our right to mess with it I guess. The modder however can't charge for their work, so a little acknowledgement in a credits list or a thank you or just being able to watch the download numbers going up is as much as they can ask for. Most humans like to feel appreciated, I guess you're one of the rare ones Raz, if you really don't care. I kinda know what you mean, cos I make music without ever really caring if anyone else likes it, I make it because I can and I enjoy it, so that's a reward in itself. We're social creatures though, so such an attitude isn't common, most prefer to feel acknowledged for their achievements, and to my mind that's not such a high asking price for the hours of skilled labour offered on sites like this. i'm sorry i understand English, but it is very difficult for me to speak (write) in English. I will try to answer you and I hope it is correct (thx google language). Most of the posts in this thread are from me. Many downloads, few comments. If i really run after this i would simply stop sharing my work. I make mods that I have wanted others to do. So for me the reward is the mod itself If my mods can please anyone, I'm happy. Believe it or not, I don't run after acknowlegdement or respect.
Mandalore777 Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 I agree with you (look at the first page), but unfornutately many modders want to be asked for their permission... Permission they've not asked to Capcom or Namco in that case. When I do a mod based upon DOA5 I share it and let everyone do what they want with my work. Modify, reupload, even say it's their work, seriously, I don't care. Lets say you released it anyways, even against their wishes. What are the consequences for you? What can they do about it? Write an angry forum post you can easily ignore. I don't see why people enable these drama queens. It's not like they have any rights or ownership over their mods. Everyone illegally modified the games files, and yet they think their work has got higher protections than the developers? Did these modders ever ask Tecmo, Team Ninja, or Itagaki if they could modify the game and make the girls nude, and release it publically? Even when the devs explicitly stated they don't want this to happen, and have punished offenders in the past, they think they own their mods and should control what others do with them once they have publicly released the files. It's absolutely hypocritical. Honestly the best mod communities are the ones where everyone shares, and no one gives these drama queens a space.
mrmojorisin Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 I agree with you (look at the first page), but unfornutately many modders want to be asked for their permission... Permission they've not asked to Capcom or Namco in that case. When I do a mod based upon DOA5 I share it and let everyone do what they want with my work. Modify, reupload, even say it's their work, seriously, I don't care. Lets say you released it anyways, even against their wishes. What are the consequences for you? What can they do about it? Write an angry forum post you can easily ignore. I don't see why people enable these drama queens. It's not like they have any rights or ownership over their mods. Everyone illegally modified the games files, and yet they think their work has got higher protections than the developers? Did these modders ever ask Tecmo, Team Ninja, or Itagaki if they could modify the game and make the girls nude, and release it publically? Even when the devs explicitly stated they don't want this to happen, and have punished offenders in the past, they think they own their mods and should control what others do with them once they have publicly released the files. It's absolutely hypocritical. Honestly the best mod communities are the ones where everyone shares, and no one gives these drama queens a space. I agree, and that's more or less what I was trying to say, lol, but I guess a certain "honor among thieves" element is In effect here, similarly to how it's considered "wrong" in the software piracy community for one group to "release" a game or app that another group already released. In the eyes of that community, the first group to release it "owns" it. Ya, I know it sounds crazy, but that's how they operate. The even have written "rules" that most of the pirate groups have agreed to.
Mandalore777 Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 I agree, and that's more or less what I was trying to say, lol, but I guess a certain "honor among thieves" element is In effect here, similarly to how it's considered "wrong" in the software piracy community for one group to "release" a game or app that another group already released. In the eyes of that community, the first group to release it "owns" it. Ya, I know it sounds crazy, but that's how they operate. The even have written "rules" that most of the pirate groups have agreed to. I've seen games that have multiple release groups before. Probably simultaneously developed. But once something is released there is no point to crack it again really. I don't think it's similar to modding because, modding a mod is not the same as just re-releasing someone else's mod and calling it your own. Which is not what Raz was ever going to do. Even if you did "steal" someones mod and call it your own and release it unchanged, it's not like the original modder ever owned it anyways. But taking another modder's work, and adding to it, is exactly what that modder did to the developers work in the first place. Very hypocritical to get upset when someone made a mod for your mod, when you modded someone else's work to get that mod in the first place. So why is modding okay, but not modding a mod? 2 rounds of modding is somehow bad? It's all sillyness if you ask me and it hinders a good community spirit.
Raz' Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 So what sould I do ? Release it and credit mods author in first page (I also had to credit originals authors : capcom, namco, team ninja etc...) ?
Mandalore777 Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 So what I do ? I release it and credit mods author in first page (i have also to credit originals authors : capcom, namco, team ninja etc...) ? I guess so. Whatever you want though. If you credit them I don't see how people can even complain.
Raz' Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 Mandalore -> Let me think of it Meanwhile girls are back XD ('coz Jannlee had no success at all ^^) : Ayane COS001 Kasumi strikers Kasumi dress (forgot something) First page I have finished a pack, i've to test it & upload today.
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