qotsafan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hey folks, as stated in the title, I am quite annoyed by the fact, that there is no way to stop your children (I'm talking about creatures, I don't know if it's different with NPC children, so I'm using HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother of course) generated by the Hiyoko Generator from following you. Even with the Mad Companionship Spells Installed and telling them to wait somewhere, they seem to fight MCS and want to follow you and get ported back to where they are supposed to wait after a few seconds. I'm not that deep into Oblivion modding (I mean creating mods, not installing them), but after some digging, I came to an idea: The children seem to be assigned 1 of 400 AI Packages, which seem to be set the type to "Follow" an AIMarker, which is probably assigned to the player, so my idea would be to make a HiyokoClub (either over a patch or a modified esm) native spell possibly called "[Hiyoko] Wait here" and place the marker where you are pointing (and maybe set the AI Type to "Wander" or something else) and a second spell called "[Hiyoko] Follow me", which resets the marker on yourself (and resets the type to "Follow"). Since I'm not that deep into creating Oblivion mods yet, I don't know how and if that's possible like I described and thus created this topic in hope someone may be able to help me and maybe this is of interest to other people as well. Regards qotsafan Link to comment
movomo Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 You must have mistaken something. MCS works fine with hiyoko. And yes, both NPC and creature. The only time that they may show odd behaviors like you described is right after you load a game, thus before MCS initializes itself. Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Thanks for the quick response, but no, the behavior seems to continue for me, even after MCS is initialized. Link to comment
Vaelorian Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 As someone who doesn't actively use nor has ever used the mod this thread is about, I have just one question: What the hell is this doing in the Other Adult Mods section, rather than the Lovers section? Link to comment
fejeena Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Oh shit LOAD ORDER ! a wonder that Lovers and Tamago works. see my yellow Link below example Load order and Mod sorting. Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 well, I thought since the mentioned mods are not actually part of the lovers mods and probably could be used standalone, I thought it would be better to post it in this section. edit: any reason except conflicts, why they have to be sorted exactly like in the link? Link to comment
Vaelorian Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 ... Their download pages are within the Lovers section. They list Lovers as one of their requirements. How exactly can they be used standalone? Explain this magic to me, because I cannot wrap my head around it. Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Alright fine, maybe I didn't think that through enough geez, but I'm not a moderator of this forum, so I can't move it. If a moderator wants to move it I'm fine with it. Link to comment
fejeena Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Mod sorting is important with Oblivion !!!! And Lovers Mods does not work right if you don't have LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp at the end of your load order !!!!!!!!! Why do People spent so much time with creatings sorting Tools like BOSS ? One worng Mod can Crash your game. Also Mod cleaning is important. Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 well my game isn't crashing and I'm always watching for conflicts and yes I do clean mods if necessary. LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp seem to work fine and they don't have any conflicts with other mods. why exactly do they not work right? Link to comment
fejeena Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Why do we tell People post your load order and NOT post a list of all Mods you use ? Why is there a sorting tool like BOSS ? Why I have wrote Oblivion install game,tools,bodies,BBB,Mod sorting and cleaning,CS-CSE Or why did gregathit wrote this ? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Or rynak777 wrote http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28162-newbies-5-simple-ways-to-avoid-most-crashes-and-bugs/ Because we have too much time ? Why are there sorting Tools and guides for Fallout3, Fallout NV , Morrowind and Skyrim ? Ignore the knowledge of modders of the last 10 years. Link to comment
ljacquard Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 qotsafan, I have a friendly advice for you. Accept the help that people here were willing to give you, and listen. You've come here to request it, and now you've received it (by people that know their shit business might I add), would it make sense not to ? Link to comment
gregathit Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 How can you be watching for conflicts, whilst HAVING THEM. I and others did not spend hours upon hours composing the pinned threads that are full of information and troubleshooting, so they could be ignored. Crap like that just tends to make folks a little bit testy. Folks are fine with you asking "why" on advice...folks are NOT fine with you questioning that advice when you are clearly not bothering to READ the pinned threads or the read me files. If you had, then your game would be working just fine and you would not have needed to start this thread. By the way.......you need to pick one: ** IDKRRR_C_race.esp ** IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp It is the little shit like the above that can fuck up your game and have you scratching your head wondering why. Oblivion is LOAD ORDER SENSITIVE. In cases of conflict (many of which you will never see or notice) the mod that is lowest in your load order.......wins. Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Why do we tell People post your load order and NOT post a list of all Mods you use ? Why is there a sorting tool like BOSS ? Why I have wrote Oblivion install game,tools,bodies,BBB,Mod sorting and cleaning,CS-CSE Or why did gregathit wrote this ? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Or rynak777 wrote http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28162-newbies-5-simple-ways-to-avoid-most-crashes-and-bugs/ Because we have too much time ? Why are there sorting Tools and guides for Fallout3, Fallout NV , Morrowind and Skyrim ? Ignore the knowledge of modders of the last 10 years. Sorry, as I wrote I'm not that deep into Oblivion modding yet, but had my fair share of Skyrim modding and never had problems with load order, so I didn't think it was different with Oblivion. I used BOSS now to sort my load order, loaded my old (kind of messed up) save and nothing of my original problem had changed. I will try to recreate the problem with my new load order now. I'm reading through those posts now, I think I read the first one, but not the second one. qotsafan, I have a friendly advice for you. Accept the help that people here were willing to give you, and listen. You've come here to request it, and now you've received it (by people that know their shit business might I add), would it make sense not to ? Sorry, it seems like it was a mistake asking for help, I wouldn't have thought people would react so hostile. How can you be watching for conflicts, whilst HAVING THEM. I and others did not spend hours upon hours composing the pinned threads that are full of information and troubleshooting, so they could be ignored. Crap like that just tends to make folks a little bit testy. Folks are fine with you asking "why" on advice...folks are NOT fine with you questioning that advice when you are clearly not bothering to READ the pinned threads or the read me files. If you had, then your game would be working just fine and you would not have needed to start this thread. By the way.......you need to pick one: ** IDKRRR_C_race.esp ** IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp It is the little shit like the above that can fuck up your game and have you scratching your head wondering why. Oblivion is LOAD ORDER SENSITIVE. In cases of conflict (many of which you will never see or notice) the mod that is lowest in your load order.......wins. ** IDKRRR_C_race.esp ** IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp I have none of those installed, they are in the list, since the bashed patch somehow needed them, even though I didn't add races to be merged and they are deactivated. The list was created with Wrye Bash. The ** before the mod seem so signalize, that they are deactivated. ++ they are merged in the Bashed Patch. Here is my new load order (sorted with BOSS): Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Lovers with PK.esm 03 BreakUndies.esm 04 TamagoClub.esm 05 HiyokoClub.esm 06 LoversCreature.esm 07 Oblivion Sexualized Monsters-exclu TRM.esm 08 x117race.esm ++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp 09 FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.1] ++ UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0B UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0D DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.5] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp 0F VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 10 DLCHorseArmor.esp 11 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 12 DLCOrrery.esp 13 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 14 DLCVileLair.esp 15 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 16 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 17 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 18 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 19 VipCxj_Pose_Extend_System.esp 1A RGMsRealFlails.esp [Version 1.1] 1B Slof's Boners!.esp 1C Throne Armor.esp 1D VipCxjHHTest.esp ++ DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp 1E Slof's Horses Base.esp 1F Slof's Extra Horses.esp 20 Mounted_Steering.esp 21 Mounted_Spellcasting.esp 22 Mounted_Trampling.esp 23 DLCThievesDen.esp 24 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 25 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.12] 26 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 27 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 28 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 29 DLCFrostcrag.esp 2A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 2B Knights.esp 2C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.5] ++ DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp 2D HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 2E LoversTamagoClub.esp 2F HiyokoGenerator.esp 30 HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] 31 HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp 32 TamagoSetBody.esp 33 VToy.esp 34 ZAZHorseRidesYou.esp 35 LoversCalm.esp 36 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 37 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] 38 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp 39 LoversImmoralGuards.esp 3A LoversImmoralSisters.esp 3B Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 3C LoversBitch.esp 3D LoversCreature.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 3E LoversCrowningIsle.esp 3F LoversMB2.esp 40 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 41 LoversHorseRider.esp 42 LoversChorus.esp 43 LoversSatisfaction.esp 44 LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp 45 LSTBravilUnderground.esp ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 46 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 47 ClaimThatInterior.esp 48 Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp [Version 3.0.1] 49 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 4A MCS extension.esp 4B spelliconreplace.esp 4C SetBody.esp 4D HumantouchNPC.esp ++ 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp 4E NoMaaM_BBB.esp 4F Animation - Growlfs Body Resizing Mod.esp 50 VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp 51 Blood Elves.esp 52 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 53 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 54 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 55 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp ** IDKRRR_C_race.esp ** IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp 56 Chocolate Elves.esp 57 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] 58 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 59 OblivionReloaded.esp 5A OSM-Exclu TRm.esp 5B Perfect Slut XXX.esp 5C LSTaddonInH.esp 5D Bashed Patch, 0.esp 5E LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 5F LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 60 MBP char-make english fix (incomplete).esp 61 PostBash.esp 62 LoversPatch.esp 63 LST_Patch.esp 64 CrowningIslePatch.esp The patches at the bottom are my patches, that's how I keep track of conflicts. (except MBP char-make english fix (incomplete).esp) I will search a way to recreate the problem and come back. Again, I didn't want to offend anyone with writing my problem here and I'm sorry if I did. Regards qotsafan Link to comment
movomo Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well, don't take them as an offense to you. There might be some kind of misunderstanding between us. Unfortunately I really suck at checking load order. I have no idea why your MCS is not working correctly. All that it does is to give several scripted rings to the companions. Those scripts run once every frame, replace their AI package with the current order (follow/wait/whatever) if it's different. It runs once every frame because it wants to ensure that the companion would follow your order quickly and exactly. My advice is, try disabling everything but those of your concern and see if it makes any difference. In this case disable just about everything except Tamago, Hiyoko, MCS, MBP. And make sure bashed patch not involved in this business. Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well, don't take them as an offense to you. There might be some kind of misunderstanding between us. Unfortunately I really suck at checking load order. I have no idea why your MCS is not working correctly. All that it does is to give several scripted rings to the companions. Those scripts run once every frame, replace their AI package with the current order (follow/wait/whatever) if it's different. It runs once every frame because it wants to ensure that the companion would follow your order quickly and exactly. My advice is, try disabling everything but those of your concern and see if it makes any difference. In this case disable just about everything except Tamago, Hiyoko, MCS, MBP. And make sure bashed patch not involved in this business. That's a good idea, will do so thanks! Link to comment
ljacquard Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I did not mean any offense, and still don't.I honestly believe I gave you the best advice one could give you in your situation, and that is to listen to the instructions that were given to you (because I knew that they were sound ones). In substance, this means carefully reading through the content and the links that Fejeena provided. Having a quick look at your loading order, I can also tell you that what Gregahit told you is spot on. A mod can be deactivated by Wrye Bash, and still have all its content pulled into the Bashed patch, which in the case of redundant or conflicting content, can cause endless issues.Some pointers, as I would like to help you instead of doing "speeches" :1/ The MBP/x117 combo sucks, no, honest. Maybe not all of its content, but properly setting it up, managing it with other custom races/mods, hand-fixing its annoying bugs over time, etc. does. I do not use it, but if you are still intent on going through the pain, there is a very nice tutorial that you can find on LL that should help you :http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8893-installation-guide-with-lovers-mbp-and-wyre-with-bashed-patch/2/ Next, the very first thing that people on LL "with the knowledge", like Fejeena and Greg, probably will check in someone's load order are the following two ESPs :1E LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp1F LoversAnimObjectsPriority.espTake it as good practice to *always* have them loading dead last in your order, at the very bottom. They are vital for LAPF to properly work, and to avoid needless crashes. I know that BOSS doesn't place them correctly, but if you had listened to Fejeena, you would know that by now, since it is clearly explained here :http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28162-newbies-5-simple-ways-to-avoid-most-crashes-and-bugsPlease do the effort to read this stuff (and generally everything that is stickied), for yourself, to put it into practice, to faster return to a stable game that you can enjoy. People on LL are very friendly, but also very experienced compared to other forums. Modding for months, and even years, tends to do that.3/ I also use the following mod : 18 Mounted_Spellcasting.esp19 Mounted_Trampling.esp1A Mounted_Steering.esp I can tell you that you shouldn't have both <Mounted_Trampling.esp> and <Mounted_Steering.esp> activated at the same time. To quote the README of the mod : -----------------------------------------------------------------1. INSTALLING THE PLUGIN-----------------------------------------------------------------The mod comes in a zip file. Use programs like Winzip to open it.1- Extract the files by running a .zip extraction program. Place all the files into your "Oblivion/Data" folder. Make sure you keep the directory structure. If asked to overwrite, choose "Yes".2- When launching the game, select data files and check this mod.3- This mod requires OBSE v0011 or higher. Download OBSE from http://obse.silverlock.org/. Remember to load Oblivion with the OBSE loader.4- If you still have Mounted_Steering.esp please delete it. It is already included in Mounted_Trampling.esp and running both at once will cause problems in your game. See? It really is essential not to rush things, like installing mods by the dozens, and potentially risk to miss obvious stuff like the above, which either mod authors or other helpful "caretakers" on forums usually make a big deal of an effort to point out *beforehand*. It's when these people have to do it days after days, because players like you and me do the same mistakes over and over again, that they start to get frustrated. It's even worse when they start writing guides, in a nice, short and readable format, put up in at a location visible to everyone (stickies and such), and might get the feeling that people they want to help still refuse to make the effort to read, to accept to listen and to accept to learn.There is nothing offensive about that, and I can perfectly understand them, and I am sure so do you. I will have another look at your list if you still need help tomorrow, but 1/ I don't necessarily have the knowledge others here do, and 2/ you'll probably find everything already written out elsewhere on LL. Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 alright, LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp are now at the bottom of my load-order and BOSS seems to also sort them like this, my new load order is three posts above yours about Mounted_Spellcasting.esp Mounted_Trampling.esp Mounted_Steering.esp if Mounted_Steering.esp is obsolete now, why is it still in the archive then (with those install instructions you mentioned)?... (just a rhetorical question) believe me, I normally don't rush to install mods, to get them all working right was a lot of work (except the title issue of course) EDIT: alright, after disabling all mods, I just left the following active: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Lovers with PK.esm 03 TamagoClub.esm 04 HiyokoClub.esm 05 LoversCreature.esm 06 x117race.esm 07 LoversTamagoClub.esp 08 HiyokoGenerator.esp 09 HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] 0A HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp 0B TamagoSetBody.esp 0C LoversCalm.esp 0D Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 0E LoversBitch.esp 0F LoversCreature.esp 10 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 11 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 12 MCS extension.esp 13 SetBody.esp 14 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 15 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp (Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp just for convenience) I made a fresh new game and leaving NPC children aside (which also work), even creature children seem to work with MCS now, it seems that either my savegame was corrupted (even though it was even blue in Wrye Bash) or another mod in my load order isn't playing along, have to some more testing. EDIT2: after reactivating all the mods and loading the save from the fresh game, I get the same described behavior again, seems like one of those mods is not playing along. Link to comment
movomo Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 So you could make the error go away by disabling things, and also could reproduce the error by enabling things again? That's a progress.. and very good progress. Seems like you're quite lucky, as sometimes problem is not as obvious as we hope. Spot what is causing it, and depending on what exactly that mod does, we'll discuss your next move. Link to comment
gregathit Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 To nip this in the bud, you need to remove all plugins that you are not using. Wyre Bash does not "need" two versions of a plugin. Move one of those plugins "out" of the data directory. Second, re-enable all non lovers and non tamago related plugins. When I say all, I mean all! Esm, esp, everything. Then rebuild your bashed patch. Third, leaving the lovers and tamago plugins disabled, start a new game and make a full clean save (hit the escape key and select new saved game). NO QUICK SAVES OR AUTO SAVES. Exit the game. Last, re-enable all lovers and tamago related plugins, start the game and select your new saved game. You should work fine now. Make sure that you follow the recommended lovers load order found here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 So you could make the error go away by disabling things, and also could reproduce the error by enabling things again? That's a progress.. and very good progress. Seems like you're quite lucky, as sometimes problem is not as obvious as we hope. Spot what is causing it, and depending on what exactly that mod does, we'll discuss your next move. To nip this in the bud, you need to remove all plugins that you are not using. Wyre Bash does not "need" two versions of a plugin. Move one of those plugins "out" of the data directory. Second, re-enable all non lovers and non tamago related plugins. When I say all, I mean all! Esm, esp, everything. Then rebuild your bashed patch. Third, leaving the lovers and tamago plugins disabled, start a new game and make a full clean save (hit the escape key and select new saved game). NO QUICK SAVES OR AUTO SAVES. Exit the game. Last, re-enable all lovers and tamago related plugins, start the game and select your new saved game. You should work fine now. Make sure that you follow the recommended lovers load order found here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Seems like the error is not as obvious as I thought, as soon as I thought I had figured out the mod which was causing the error, I loaded the save again with the mods I created it with, to make sure it was still working and there was the bug again... seems like it wasn't a mod that was causing it though... Although now two days later I finally got it to work right with gregathit's advice, I did it like this: 1. I created a clean save with just Oblivion.esm 2. I did what movomo wrote (loaded the save with the mod-list above) to generate a creature child (which was working with MCS) and saved the game 3. I activated all my remaining mods and loaded the working save and it was still working with the new load-order I will probably load the clean save and play with that one. Here is my new and pretty much final load-order: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Lovers with PK.esm 03 BreakUndies.esm 04 TamagoClub.esm 05 HiyokoClub.esm 06 LoversCreature.esm 07 Oblivion Sexualized Monsters-exclu TRM.esm 08 x117race.esm ++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp 09 FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.1] ++ UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0B UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0D DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.5] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp 0F VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 10 kuerteeCleanUp.esp 11 DLCHorseArmor.esp 12 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 13 DLCOrrery.esp 14 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 15 DLCVileLair.esp 16 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 17 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 18 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 19 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 1A VipCxj_Pose_Extend_System.esp 1B RGMsRealFlails.esp [Version 1.1] 1C Slof's Boners!.esp 1D Throne Armor.esp ++ DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp 1E Slof's Horses Base.esp 1F Slof's Extra Horses.esp 20 Mounted_Spellcasting.esp 21 Mounted_Trampling.esp 22 DLCThievesDen.esp 23 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 24 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.12] 25 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 26 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 27 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 28 DLCFrostcrag.esp 29 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 2A Knights.esp 2B Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.5] ++ DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp 2C HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 2D LoversTamagoClub.esp 2E HiyokoGenerator.esp 2F HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] 30 HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp 31 TamagoSetBody.esp 32 VToy.esp 33 ZAZHorseRidesYou.esp 34 LoversCalm.esp 35 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 36 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] 37 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp 38 LoversImmoralGuards.esp 39 LoversImmoralSisters.esp 3A Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 3B LoversBitch.esp 3C LoversCreature.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 3D LoversCrowningIsle.esp 3E LoversMB2.esp 3F LoversSlaveTrader.esp 40 LoversHorseRider.esp 41 LoversChorus.esp 42 LoversSatisfaction.esp 43 LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp 44 LSTBravilUnderground.esp ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 45 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 46 ClaimThatInterior.esp 47 Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp [Version 3.0.1] 48 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 49 MCS extension.esp 4A spelliconreplace.esp 4B SetBody.esp 4C HumantouchNPC.esp ++ 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp 4D NoMaaM_BBB.esp 4E Animation - Growlfs Body Resizing Mod.esp 4F VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp 50 Blood Elves.esp 51 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 52 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 53 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 54 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp 55 Chocolate Elves.esp 56 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] 57 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 58 OblivionReloaded.esp 59 OSM-Exclu TRm.esp 5A Perfect Slut XXX.esp 5B LSTaddonInH.esp 5C Bashed Patch, 0.esp 5D LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 5E LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 5F PostBash.esp 60 LoversPatch.esp 61 LST_Patch.esp 62 CrowningIslePatch.esp Thanks for all the advice, I'm sorry if I doubted anything you wrote at first :3 I hope it will now stay working like this. 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fejeena Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 much better but the Lovers esp should not be after LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversPatch.esp LST_Patch.esp CrowningIslePatch.esp Patches after the Mods ( e.g. CrowningIslePatch.esp after LoversCrowningIsle.esp ) ----------------------------------------------- And MB2 LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ------------------------------- PostBash.esp ??? what's that ? ----------------------------------- And you don't need KT_CustomRaceFix.esp It is included in the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp ( you have not read my yellow Link ) Link to comment
qotsafan Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 PostBash.esp LoversPatch.esp LST_Patch.esp CrowningIslePatch.esp are my own compatibility patches, I keep them at the bottom to have control over them, but I will move them above those three you mentioned LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Edit: Hmm, LoversSatisfaction.esp needs LoversMB2.esp as master, so I would have to load LoversSatisfaction.esp and LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp also at the bottom. It would look like this then: Bashed Patch, 0.esp CrowningIslePatch.esp LST_Patch.esp LoversPatch.esp PostBash.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversSatisfaction.esp LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Full list without KT_CustomRaceFix.esp: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Lovers with PK.esm 03 BreakUndies.esm 04 TamagoClub.esm 05 HiyokoClub.esm 06 LoversCreature.esm 07 x117race.esm ++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp 08 FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp 09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.1] ++ UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0A UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.5] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp 0E VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 0F kuerteeCleanUp.esp 10 DLCHorseArmor.esp 11 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 12 DLCOrrery.esp 13 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 14 DLCVileLair.esp 15 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 16 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 17 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 18 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 19 VipCxj_Pose_Extend_System.esp 1A RGMsRealFlails.esp [Version 1.1] 1B Slof's Boners!.esp 1C Throne Armor.esp ++ DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp 1D Slof's Horses Base.esp 1E Slof's Extra Horses.esp 1F Mounted_Spellcasting.esp 20 Mounted_Trampling.esp 21 DLCThievesDen.esp 22 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 23 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.12] 24 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 25 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 26 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 27 DLCFrostcrag.esp 28 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 29 Knights.esp 2A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.5] ++ DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp 2B HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 2C LoversTamagoClub.esp 2D HiyokoGenerator.esp 2E HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] 2F HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp 30 TamagoSetBody.esp 31 VToy.esp 32 ZAZHorseRidesYou.esp 33 LoversCalm.esp 34 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 35 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] 36 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp 37 LoversImmoralGuards.esp 38 LoversImmoralSisters.esp 39 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 3A LoversBitch.esp 3B LoversCreature.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 3C LoversCrowningIsle.esp 3D LoversSlaveTrader.esp 3E LoversHorseRider.esp 3F LoversChorus.esp 40 LSTBravilUnderground.esp ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 41 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 42 ClaimThatInterior.esp 43 Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp [Version 3.0.1] 44 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 45 MCS extension.esp 46 spelliconreplace.esp 47 SetBody.esp 48 HumantouchNPC.esp ++ 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp 49 NoMaaM_BBB.esp 4A Animation - Growlfs Body Resizing Mod.esp 4B VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp 4C Blood Elves.esp 4D DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 4E Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 4F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 50 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp 51 Chocolate Elves.esp 52 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] 53 OblivionReloaded.esp 54 Perfect Slut XXX.esp 55 LSTaddonInH.esp 56 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 57 CrowningIslePatch.esp 58 LST_Patch.esp 59 LoversPatch.esp 5A PostBash.esp 5B LoversMB2.esp 5C LoversSatisfaction.esp 5D LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp 5E LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 5F LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Link to comment
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