bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Ok, so hopefully this should be fairly simple, as the title says tbbp animations are not working. I am using XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended with the bbp option selected, FNIS recognized 129 bones for male and female, I am also using SevenBase TBBP which I altered with Bodyslide (but did not copy bone weights to not mess anything up), and I have no bounciness. I deleted conflicting skeletons that MO has listed, there was one in Enhanced Character Edit and Realistic Force, I have no other mod that changes the skeleton or animations (animations for tbbp anyway).
bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 Why use BBP skeleton with TBBP animation? I caught that too but I just looked the other way with it. XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended only has an option for BBP. I downloaded the one from LL, is there a different one I should be using?
TnTTnT Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I suggest you to select normal rig (which is HDT/TBBP supported).
bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 I suggest you to select normal rig (which is HDT/TBBP supported). I think I tried that one too, I have an idea, I'll test it out in a few minutes.
bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 No luck, I just can't seem to figure it out, so heres my mod list (maybe a tad lenghty but Ive had more with no issues) oh, I also tried installing the XPMS skeleton and not choosing bbp, didn't work Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espRaceCompatibility.esmSGHairPackBase.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmSexLab.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmXvision Children.esmEnhancedCharacterEdit.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espCharacterMakingExtender.espActive Plugins Display.espSGHairPackAIO.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.espChesko_WearableLantern.espCoT_SnowPatch_NoAurora.espWetandCold.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espTrueBrows.espClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espBloodyFacials.espELFX - Exteriors.espFootprints.espImmersiveFP.espClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.espHeadtracking.espIceBreaker's Improved Reverb v0.025.espSOS - Smurf Average Addon.espLost Magic.espProperWeaponScale.espSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espSOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espSkyUI.espCustomizable Camera.espELFX - Dawnguard.espEnhancedWetnessandPuddles.espUSKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.espWATER DG.espWATER.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espAI Overhaul.espEnchanting Freedom.espAdded_Killmoves_All_Weapons+Last_Enemy_Limit_Removed+Player_cannot_be_killmoved.espNo_3rd_Person_killcam-3rd_Person_only-Above-Behind.espSMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.espSOS - Shop.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Dawnguard.espSkyrim Realistic Archery.espXvision Children - Main.espXvision Children - HF.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espkillmoverandom-20-P-L.espdecap_chance_10.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
TnTTnT Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I think the problem may come from your altered 7B TBBP. Can you try to use Slider Set=CBBE Body TBBP, Slider Preset=Any to verify? I'm not quite sure since I didn't play with TBBP ever since experience with HDT-PE.
bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 I think the problem may come from your altered 7B TBBP. Can you try to use Slider Set=CBBE Body HDT, Slider Preset=Any to verify? I tried using an unaltered sevenbase tbbp and it didnt work, it does work with hdt installed though (as in both mine and an unaltered 7B) All I did to "alter" it, was run it though bodyslide and change it to the b-cup version
TnTTnT Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Did your altered 7B work with HDT? If unaltered work and your altered one didn't work then we can be sure that it's just the body issue. Why you want to use TBBP while HDT also work for you?
gvman3670 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 You should see FNIS reading a lot more bones than that. 242 bones IIRC. Have you tried reinstalling the skeleton (or moving it down the left pane's list below other skeleton containing/altering mods)?
bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 Did your altered 7B work with HDT? If unaltered work and your altered one didn't work then we can be sure that it's just the body issue. Why you want to use TBBP while HDT also work for you? I just didnt want to have another esp active with the hdt havok object, also the hdt doesnt look quite as good in my opinion, a little over the top. I would really just use it for for screenshots or a specifically sexualized character, not an average play through You should see FNIS reading a lot more bones than that. 242 bones IIRC. Have you tried reinstalling the skeleton (or moving it down the left pane's list below other skeleton containing/altering mods)? Now that you mention it I thought the 129 looked odd, when I chose the data. tab in MO I have it show me only conflicts and it shows no other skeletons are installed. I bet the solution will be really obvious when I find it I just remembered that when I was having an issue with Argonians and Khajit having stiff tails it was caused by a folder called Auxbones, I'm going to delete it real quick and run FNIS.............and no it didnt do anything, I didn't think it would. I don't recall if FNIS always says "no gender directory" or not
Groovtama Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 HDT rig = Default, no TBBP, no BBP, no problems from people's past fuckups BBP rig = TBBP and BBP, BBP means bouncing breast through animations I don't differ supportlevel of TBBP or BBP, buggy because of people's past fuckups.
bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 HDT rig = Default, no TBBP, no BBP, no problems from people's past fuckups BBP rig = TBBP and BBP, BBP means bouncing breast through animations I don't differ supportlevel of TBBP or BBP, buggy because of people's past fuckups. I set it up so that I have everything selected as you mentioned. I mad a copy for an hdt rig, and a separate copy for a bbp rig. Choosing the hdt rig fnis recognizes 115 bones, if I choose the bbp rig instead (and deselecting the hdt rig) and fnis tells me I have 129 bones. A while ago I was having an issue where Riften just caused my game to crash (it turned out to simply be a messed up armor) but I reinstalled Skyrim (and MO) while trying to pinpoint the problem. I've had the XPMS skeleton before and had it work fine, and from what I can tell I don't have any other skeleton mod that would conflict with yours (I deleted the conflicting skeletons in Enhanced Character Edit and Realistic Force to avoid conflicts). I know hoe to set up mods properly and check for conflicts (but there are always some) I can't help but feel that there's something really obvious I'm not seeing
gvman3670 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I don't think it should be necessary to delete any skeleton parts. Not while using MO. Just order the left pane so that the skeleton gets the last virtual overwrites. In what order do you have them in the left pane? And how is FNIS installed?
bigglebojiggle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 I don't think it should be necessary to delete any skeleton parts. Not while using MO. Just order the left pane so that the skeleton gets the last virtual overwrites. In what order do you have them in the left pane? And how is FNIS installed? I installed it directly into the Skyrim folder, and had a back up installed in MO but left it unchecked (in case something messed up I would have a back up) I have actually run the fnis.exe file in both locations (though MO of course) and each one gives me the same result. I installed FNIS and FNIS creatures in MO, moved the files from Creatures and put them into FNIS behavior. I went ahead and removed the one installed directly into the data folder since it didn't change anything, and I was careful to only remove the fnis files and nothing else. You mentioned the left pane, do you mean the plugins tab? The only esp associated with XPMS is proper weapon scale or the hdt havok esp, whenever one is chosen its always at the bottom for example: dbrealisticforce hdthavokobject
bigglebojiggle Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 Ok, decided to test it out in MO by making a new profile, choosing only XPMS and then running FNIS, still only 129 bones detected. This would mean the issue is with Skyrim or MO right? If no mods are active that would have to be the issue right? Have to ask, is there any chance an ENB would cause the issue?
Groovtama Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 129 is the TBBP rig of XPME2. When it isn't working you have no TBBP animation or no TBBP supported body.
bigglebojiggle Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 129 is the TBBP rig of XPME2. When it isn't working you have no TBBP animation or no TBBP supported body. Wait, I could have sowrn the bone count was supposed to be 242, at least that's what I remember (maybe I messed up one day when I first started and saw that), and that's what they were saying here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25227-skeleton-femalehkx-huge-issue/ Dammit, if that's the case then I think the I know the issue, and like I've been sayin it's really, really friggin obvious. I used this mod: (female walking and running bbp) http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50078/? accidentally over wrote it with this one (immersive animations): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34950/? I always do something like this, over complicate the problem cause the answer is so damned simple. Thank you sir, I'll give it a try and let you know, but I'm sure that the issue is fixed now Ok, just gave it a quick try and shes still pretty static Was just trying something, I was using the Maximum Skeleton here on LL (version 2.33) it gave me 129 bones Then I just found this one tucked away on my PC: XPMS 1-93a NMM-BAIN INSTALLER-26800-1-93a it gave me 242 bones....very odd but I bet its sorted out now
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