Deadly Reflex is giving me a headache

[Askan Vulrel]

I'm at my wit's end here. I've done everything when it comes to installing Deadly Reflex, looking up multiple guides on how to install it, and NOTHING works. Every time, clicking "new game" has no effect, making me stuck in the main menu, or loading a game crashes it.

v5 used to work for me, but now it's having the same issues, as well. No idea why, as it is the EXACT SAME install method I used last time.

I manually drop them into my Data folder, along with all the requirements. And, before you suggest it, no, I'm not going to try a mod manager. I've seen this mod work perfectly without one.

I've brought this up multiple times on the Nexus, and searched it over, and over, and over again, to get no answer.

[mashpotatokiller]

What Nifse version u using?

[Askan Vulrel]

The latest one on the page. I also get the NifSe + DR6 patch that the Nifse page links me to.

NifSe or not, DR5 should work, at least. NifSe isn't a requirement to that. I'd still like 6, however.

[WesternEnclave]

I agree, That last time I installed Deadly Reflex (A year ago) and I had to completely re-install the game because the game would crash on load. And re-installing a game when you have hundreds of mods is a huge Pain!

[mashpotatokiller]

First off,just about a month ago went back to oblivion so Im still pretty new about mods.

 

I downloaded DR6 beta and followed the instructions.Just like you the game wont even start.I deleted the DR6-Nifse patch and the game starts but lags alot and crashes everytime I use the throw button.

 

So I decided to find help and found and helpful thread.

 

1.Downgrade Nifse to v1.0b(apparently the mod was created using this version)

 

2.Use OBMM NOT TO INSTALL THE MOD but to change the load order of combat.esp to last

 

I followed this instructions and don"t give a f*** about the rest and the game loaded with a more stable fps and it rarely crashes(it still does from time to time dont know why)

 

So inspite all of the bull**** of patches and just downright crappy unfinished mod,I advise you not to use it and download combat mods individually such as the ability to bash mod(MY OPINION MATTERS RIGHT)

 

Hope this fixes it and u dont regret the crappy 1st person animations,lots of bugs and trash files that crashes the game.

[Askan Vulrel]

I can downgrade my NifSe, but I'm not using a modloader. I'm not about to install one of those for reasons I'd rather not explain at the moment.

But why is DR5 having this problem? It doesn't even need NifSe to run.

[mashpotatokiller]

Like I said not a modder....maybe it corrupted obse,I have no clue

 

Try blockhead though It MAY help...no promises

 

Oh and make sure you enable the mod and start the game with obse_loader(just incase you didnt know which you should)

[mashpotatokiller]

BTW..

You wont or you cant install a mod loader?Just checking,you dont have to answer.

[Askan Vulrel]

Don't see why it would corrupt OBSE as it didn't a couple months ago.

Won't. Just not going to, if I can manually put them in my folder, and enable them using the "Data Files" function that Bethesda gives you, what's the use of installing a new program? Last time I tried OBMM it didn't work, anyway.

[mashpotatokiller]

Well thats all the help I could give.

Find someone else to help you.

Your stubborn-ness not to use obmm is your funeral

 

Just saying

 

If you decide to otherwise and need help,theres lots of people who'll help

OBMM is the solution man!

[fejeena]

How do you sort your mods (ESM/ESP) ? No OBMM no WryeBash . The Bethesda OblivionLauncher does not sort (only first esm then esp in alphabetical order )

Why there a programs like BOSS (Better Oblivion sorting System ) or LOOT (Load Order Optimisation Tool)

With wrong load order Mods do not work or CTD at game start.

[gregathit]

You flat out MUST use a third party mod organizer.  Your other choice is to delete your mods and play vanilla.  The games tools don't allow you to sort anything, they just enable plugins.  That won't work worth a shit for most plugins....especially ones that are load order sensitive (which is most of them).

 

One thing that many folks forget to do is to delete your oblivion.ini file and then start the game to generate a new one.  Making major changes to your game can often corrupt the oblivion.ini file and then you have all sorts of issues.

 

Cheers,

Greg

[Askan Vulrel]

Finally gave in and used Wrye Bash. Everything's working perfectly, not even the weapon throwing crash that's constantly reported. Honestly, Deadly Reflex is the only mod out of all of my mods that needs the modloader to work properly. Why is that?

[Brigade]

Have you tried the OMOD version with just good old OBMM? I guarantee you were using NMM the first time you tried to install, which alone is enough to fuck up oblivion.

[Askan Vulrel]

I don't use NMM. I just use WinRar, drag and drop into the appropriate folders. It was only DR that has the problems, not all of Oblivion. Just used Wrye Bash and it worked.

[movomo]

It was only DR that has the problems, not all of Oblivion. Just used Wrye Bash and it worked.

That's exactly what the mod manager is for. Pretty much any mod works fine if you don't have any other mod interfering.

 

I presume you didn't want to use any mod manager because you don't want anything else corrupting your system, which I totally can understand, but when there are dozens~hundreds of mods that are supposed to get along with each other, it becomes a whole different story. The default Oblivion launcher wasn't made to intervene in the mod conflicts.