B0ss plz Posted March 9, 2014 Posted March 9, 2014 I've had this problem for around a day now and ever since I downloaded RealVision enb I've been having crashes both on load and during a game seconds after I've loaded it. I got really pissed so I uninstalled the ENB injector and the realvision but yet it still is crashing all the time when I load it. There is no way I'm uninstalling my game and mods by some slow process, I say f**k that. Sorry, I'm just annoyed, many people are in this situation and would like to play again. P.S The short taste of the ENB was amazing, I loved the sight and look of it and would love to actually use it with no troubles, but I don't want a tutorial video from YouTube since most of them are outdated. I'd rather a step by step process please.
CGi Posted March 9, 2014 Posted March 9, 2014 After you install an ENB you need to call the game setup from the launcher, same if you uninstall and ENB, as in some cases ENB emulates a specific graphic adapter. And make sure you do (and undo) the needed changes to the iNis and the setup in the control panel of your graphic card.
B0ss plz Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 Can you please dumb that down a bit for me?
Rayblue Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 First off, what's the specs of the PC you're using? It could be that the ENB binaries may not be compatible with your PC.
lordofthedread Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 For RealVision ENB take good care wich version you install as it will call specific mods.
B0ss plz Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 8.00gb RAM with a 64bit operating system Is that enough?
Rayblue Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Okay we actually need the following: CPU/processor: is it an Intel? Or an AMD? Motherboard: sometimes it matters because some are built for performance, others are for normal people who don't overclock. Graphics card: also known as a GPU. What type of video card can either break your Skyrim experience with an ENB or make it fabulous. Your Skyrim load list: because some mods may cause your game to crash, or that you might have a mod that's dependent on a missing .ESM master.
B0ss plz Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 My processor is Intel and the motherboard system manufacture is Gigabyte Technology Co. My graphics card is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti. I also have the information of my PC on the attached file so I hope you can make better use of it. My complete load order is below, I should have all my master files for each mod so I don't think it could be my mods. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Falskaar.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm RaceCompatibility.esm AOM.esm BBLuxurySuite.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm DirectorsTools.esm Dragon Break.esm Evil Lair of Hydra.esm GeneralStores.esm moonpath.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm SkyMoMod.esm SPIKE.esm WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp TKChildren.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp SplashofRain.esp Clanking Armor.esp Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp Immersive Sounds - Weaponry.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Solstheim Music in Skyrim.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Seasons of Skyrim Project.esp _pocketempirebuilder.esp All Geared Up.esp AMatterOfTime.esp AOM.esp Banditry.esp Birdsofskyrim.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp LoversComfort.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Pupetteer Master.esp Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp RedMountainErupts.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp SkyMoMod Lore-Friendly Purist.esp Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp ZazResources.esp DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Footprints.esp Footprints - Ash.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SkyUI.esp iHUD.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Cloaks.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp daedric_phelm.esp DaedricCrossbow.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Immersive Weapons.esp LeftHandRings.esp LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp NewJewelleryGems.esp Pauldrons.esp StormLord.esp TERAArmors.esp TorchArrow-Dawnguard.esp zzLSAR.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp SkyRe_Main.esp SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp SkyRe_StandingStones_Fix.esp SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Morrowloot.esp BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp BBLSspouse.esp BBLSVisitors.esp BBLSmusic.esp buildablehouse.esp CAMP.esp CAMP Users.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp CWIDawnguardPatch.esp CWIDragonbornPatch.esp PATCHDragon Break.esp Dragon Break E1BW Apachii.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp moonpath_questdata.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Northern Bathhouses.esp nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp OBIS.esp OBISDB.esp Realcitiessolitude.esp realcitieswhiterun.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp SDpatch - dawnguard.esp SDpatch - dragonborn.esp SDpatch - frostfall.esp Skyrim School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.esp The Pit.esp the room.esp Tundra Defense.esp Ultimate Witcher MOD.esp armored-horses.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp Differently Ebony.esp DirectorsTools_FogUnlocker.esp Headtracking.esp ImmersiveFP.esp SexLab Romance.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp TorchRadius.esp Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp whiteruninenhanced.esp SoSP Summer Edition.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp Open Cities Skyrim.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp SoS - Civilization.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp CinematicFireFX.esp Realistic Lighting.esp Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp PrivateNeeds.esp PrivateNeeds-Sexlab.esp Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp ESFCompanions.esp Werewolves.esp AK- Alternate Actors.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp HentaiCreatures.esp dovahkiinrelax.esp FNISspells.esp Path of Shadows.esp CombatDramaOverhaul.esp DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp KillAnimationAlways.esp the dance of death.esp The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Animated Enchantments.esp FAMP2.esp FNIS_Zoo.esp ApachiiHairStyles.esp ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp N_43 Hair Pack.esp LunariRace.esp SuccubusRaceLite.esp The Ningheim.esp UNFU.esp 3DNPC.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp Horses for followers.esp SBF All In One + DLC.esp Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Camilla.esp Dovabear.esp SMSkyrim.esp SMSkyrim - Dragonborn.esp SMSkyrim - PrettyFace.esp Better Follower Improvements.esp followerwander2.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp skyrim unbound.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp SkyRe_Races.esp SkyRe_Races_Fix.esp ElderOutfit.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp WATER.esp WATER Plants.esp WATER DB Waves.esp WATER Falskaar.esp RND_Water-Patch.esp GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp CWIApachiiSkyHairPatch.esp CWICaranthirTowerPatch.esp CWIOpulentOutfitsPatch.esp CWIOpulentApachiiPatch.esp SoSP Summer Edition - CoT Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ReProccer.esp TKChildren_HF.esp TKChildren_V.esp TKChildren_DB.esp Solstheim clean.esp SpousesEnhanced.esp Base Fix.esp Wasteland.esp Base Fix 2.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp ElementalArrows.esp iNeed.esp Animations.esp SexLab Attraction.esp Order My Items.esp Seductress Serana.esp
gvman3670 Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Those mods installed makes me wonder how it even plays at all. Have you run a papyrus log to see what's in there? I am sure it's script spammed like crazy. That alone could be the problem. You got at least 40 mods, at least, that are running scripts in the background. A couple of those are horrible, like BBLS and Warzones. I know it's fun to change the game, but exercising some control goes a long way. I didn't count them, but there is a limit of 255 mods in this game. If you add one after that point it kills another one already added. This can cause a crash at startup since in essence you'll be missing a file (and it might be a necessary one that gets shut down).
B0ss plz Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 My game runs smoothly with all these mods on, only after when I have the enb is when I started experiencing problems even after I uninstalled it. So what really should I do now, I'm not that sure. Uninstall a few mods or what? If someone can; could they suggest a mod that should NOT be on because it might cause problems or crashes? I'll love you forever!
CGi Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 1. Did you follow the instructions on how to install ENB itself and RealVision?2. Are you sure you completly removed ENB? (if you have a file called d3d9.dll in your Skyrim folder, delete it as it came from ENB and is used to call it.) Start the Skyrim launcher thru Steam, click on Options and then immediatly on OK. No need to make any changes as this is just to make sure the game runs on the correct graphic adapter, which is found when you start the setup and saved as soon as you click OK.
B0ss plz Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 1. Yes I did (I hope), I watched Gophers video but it was dated from a year or two back. I started my game and in the top left corner had that message letting me know I did it but yet had the crashing problems. 2. Yes I did remove that file as well as the ones that had enb on it only on my Skyrim folder. Are there other ways?
CGi Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Stop following solely Gophers videos and do instead what he says: Read the mods description. Aside from that, my last guess would be to remove all your game iNis. Not the one in the Skyrim folder, but in %UserProfile%\Documents\My Games\Skyrim. Then start the launcher again, make your setup and hope it works.P.s.: Check for mods you installed for use with RealVision. if you removed RealVision remove any mods that are especially targeted for use with RealVision. P.p.s.: if you use MO, start the game and the launcher from inside MO.
B0ss plz Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 Sigh, ok, nothing seems to work. Let just say with wipe the whole god damn thing, re-installing the game and starting everything again. Are there any pros or cons by doing this?
gvman3670 Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Wiping and starting again is kinda' normal for your first few play throughs. Sad, but true. If you're going to go to that extent I would strongly suggest switching to Mod Organizer in the process so you'll never have to reinstall again. And here is this subforum is a thread outlining how to install Skyrim, what steps to go through, to get a stable, smooth game that's as trouble-free as possible. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/26468-guide-want-a-ctd-free-and-blistering-fast-skyrim-game-here-you-go/?hl=+guide Follow all the steps in this thread here and you'll get a game with as few CTSs as possible. And being conservative with scripted mods will go a long, long way. Keep it down to just a couple heavily scripted mods you just can't live without if you're going to run SL mods, too. Leave crashfest mods like BBLS out of your load order altogether (it's the dirtiest mod ever made). If you use MO you can set up seperate profiles with seperate game saves so you can have one to play and one loaded with SL mods and a couple more to just experiment with new mods. Going into Skyrim/data/SKSE and making a new file called "SKSE.ini" then adding these lines to it... [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 ...will help get rid of orphaned scripts as well. I add it to mine at the start of a new game just to make sure. It's not an immediate fix, but over time it cleans unused scripts from your game.
B0ss plz Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 Thanks very much, I'll get back to you and tell you how it goes.
Ftb78 Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 actualy i noticed since installing FNIS , defeat and sexlab framework i get als CTD It used to play perfect with realvision ENB injector 251b and skse untill i installed the mods above. The crashes are random sometimes a popup from Microsoft visual CC++ pops up. Crashes appear when opening mudcraps , sometimes a body and sacks and sometimes it's completely random. For the info my system: MSI z87 GD65 gaming mainboard + hasswel I7 4770k processor , 16GB memory , videocard Radeon R9 270x (4gb version) , i use the 4gb patch for skyrim. Just build it a month ago. The latest mods installed next to the above : Climates of tamriel (project reality) Wet and Cold Sky UI land : Wyrmstooth 1,10 Also lydia was messed up lol , she now follows some random character and no matter what i do she refuses to follow me even tho i tell her or tell her to go home.. that's something i never experienced before , after resetting her and calling her and do whatever with the console commands , she still wouldn't listen , so i killed her and have her dead body laying around somewhere in my house and assigned Alea from the companion as a house butler
gvman3670 Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Are you using the SMME memory patch? That helps a lot with random crashes. FreeMem helps a bit as well and plays nicely with the memory patch.
B0ss plz Posted March 11, 2014 Author Posted March 11, 2014 Thanks a ton guys for the help, I followed the link Old Geezer game me and it seem to be fine now, it even feels like a new game. Yet the only hassle is to install all my mods but other than that it's awesome!
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