belegost Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 (edited) All 3 have been floating around in my recommendations for a while now. There are a lot of patches for them and seems like they are held in high regard. But suprisingly there is little concrete information on what those 3 mods actually do. Can I have a brief synopsis on what are all 3 about, how they tie together and why should I try them out and in what order? Assume 4 things: I know nothing about them except names, I play exclusively female non-Dragonborn characters, I have an unhealthy fascination with DD framework and derivative mods and, I usually run highly misogynistic, unforgiving, exploitative and rape-filled load order where PC is at the bottom of sexual food chain and is not a hero. Now, recommend those 3 to me. Or not. Edited April 6, 2024 by belegost 2
Darkpig Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 They are new land mods with questlines and everything. The stories are meh but the visuals and enemies are unique. 1
FauxFurry Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 The early questlines are investigations into Daedra worshipper activity (playing to the Creation Engine's strengths) while the end game is essentially Dark Souls (Drac Souls, one could say) or Bloodborne (which does not play to the CE's strengths even if one uses the Modern Combat Overhaul). 1
belegost Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Darkpig said: new land mods New land as in like Bruma or like Falskaar? Could you elaborate on visuals? I assume it adds new NPCs. Are those vanilla potatoes or are there overhauls available similar to Bijin, Pandorable or, at the very least, Botox? 2 hours ago, FauxFurry said: the end game is essentially Dark Souls I hate Souls-likes. -50 points to Gryffindor. Is starting a main quest required? I play mostly through LAL and avoid visiting Helgen like plague. Can't be arsed to have overgrown cliff racers with gastric problems swooping down at least convenient moments. How is that Daedra worship component? This seems interesting, wonder if it can, with some other mods, be spun into some sort of SL story with PC on the receiving end.
Darkpig Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 9 hours ago, belegost said: New land as in like Bruma or like Falskaar? Could you elaborate on visuals? I assume it adds new NPCs. Are those vanilla potatoes or are there overhauls available similar to Bijin, Pandorable or, at the very least, Botox? 3 of the female characters in the Unslaad mod, and 1 or more female characters in the Glenmoril and Vigilant mod look Final Fantasy-esque. No big surprise considering this is a Japanese modder. If you don't like it there are a few mods to replace the visuals of those NPCs either in the LE sphere or SE sphere. To elaborate on my earlier point roughly 90% of the characters look visually different in Unslaad, Glenmoril and Vigilant than their Skyrim counterparts. Though I have noticed that some of the weapons and armor are referenced to other games and media. 9 hours ago, belegost said: I hate Souls-likes. -50 points to Gryffindor. Is starting a main quest required? I play mostly through LAL and avoid visiting Helgen like plague. Can't be arsed to have overgrown cliff racers with gastric problems swooping down at least convenient moments. How is that Daedra worship component? This seems interesting, wonder if it can, with some other mods, be spun into some sort of SL story with PC on the receiving end. The Vigilant questline can be started at the Inn in Dawnstar no matter where you are in the Vanilla Skyrim questline. I can't remember how to start Glenmoril and I'm pretty sure it is still in the beta stage. Unslaad is started by touching a doll behind the High Hrothgar building which can easily be accessed by flying mod, grappling mod, lockpicking mod, simply following the vanilla questline or by horse lol The character will be referred to as the Dragonborn regardless of the option you pick. Also the last quest in Unslaad will require you to know at least the first word of Unrelenting Force shout to progress which you could easily use console commands to add the power to your character without inviting "overgrown cliff racers" as you say. As for the daedra worshiping aspect of it. I can only assume @FauxFurry was talking about the Vigilant mod where you are required to stop a summoner. I am not sure if you are allowed to join the bad guys. I know the last time I tried sacrificing a child potato to divine the future and I ended up with a game over screen. Also what is wrong with sacrificing potatoes? Skyrim players do it all the time. 1
belegost Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Darkpig said: Also what is wrong with sacrificing potatoes All bones, no meat.
FauxFurry Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Darkpig said: 3 of the female characters in the Unslaad mod, and 1 or more female characters in the Glenmoril and Vigilant mod look Final Fantasy-esque. No big surprise considering this is a Japanese modder. If you don't like it there are a few mods to replace the visuals of those NPCs either in the LE sphere or SE sphere. To elaborate on my earlier point roughly 90% of the characters look visually different in Unslaad, Glenmoril and Vigilant than their Skyrim counterparts. Though I have noticed that some of the weapons and armor are referenced to other games and media. The Vigilant questline can be started at the Inn in Dawnstar no matter where you are in the Vanilla Skyrim questline. I can't remember how to start Glenmoril and I'm pretty sure it is still in the beta stage. Unslaad is started by touching a doll behind the High Hrothgar building which can easily be accessed by flying mod, grappling mod, lockpicking mod, simply following the vanilla questline or by horse lol The character will be referred to as the Dragonborn regardless of the option you pick. Also the last quest in Unslaad will require you to know at least the first word of Unrelenting Force shout to progress which you could easily use console commands to add the power to your character without inviting "overgrown cliff racers" as you say. As for the daedra worshiping aspect of it. I can only assume @FauxFurry was talking about the Vigilant mod where you are required to stop a summoner. I am not sure if you are allowed to join the bad guys. I know the last time I tried sacrificing a child potato to divine the future and I ended up with a game over screen. Also what is wrong with sacrificing potatoes? Skyrim players do it all the time. There is an NPC right near where the spot where the Vigilant of Stendarr who starts the Vigilant main quest line approaches the Dragonborn which will give the option to join in with the adversaries of the VoS, undermining them rather than aiding them.
belegost Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 57 minutes ago, FauxFurry said: There is an NPC right near where the spot where the Vigilant of Stendarr who starts the Vigilant main quest line approaches the Dragonborn which will give the option to join in with the adversaries of the VoS, undermining them rather than aiding them. No spoilers! You both almost convinced me to give it a go. I just need to think how I'm going to set it up and see what patches are available.
Miauzi Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 I also recommend this mod which adds an additional narrative level for the player character. --- The author of the mods you listed has dealt very intensively with the lore of this game world and filled in some "blank spots"... including the origin of the vampires. Anyone who has played “Morrowind” or Oblivion and read the books found there will recognize some of the locations of these mods. Even if these mods are very extensive and the installation is not that easy - in my opinion it is all worth it
belegost Posted April 7, 2024 Author Posted April 7, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Miauzi said: I also recommend this mod which adds an additional narrative level for the player character. --- The author of the mods you listed has dealt very intensively with the lore of this game world and filled in some "blank spots"... including the origin of the vampires. Anyone who has played “Morrowind” or Oblivion and read the books found there will recognize some of the locations of these mods. Even if these mods are very extensive and the installation is not that easy - in my opinion it is all worth it Thanks but I'll pass. Recommending to me a vampire follower that has personality and is a female is the worst thing that can be done. I hate vampires and I don't like followers that are anything more than just background actors. Personality doesn't have armor value and I don't care about their opinions. Their sole purpose in life is to be a meat shield, carry burdens and occasionally provide meat injection up the ass or a pair of balls to suck dry for my female PC, whenever I fancy seeing her with a meat stick shoved down her throat, as she begs for another bottle of skooma. Which she does often. I'm not into futas, so female followers are useless as far as I'm concerned. I always join Dawnguard. Isran may be a cunt, but at least he did not father that clingy, smart-ass, bloodsucking bitch with daddy issues, that tags along without asking and can't be gotten rid of for a good part of the questline. Edited April 7, 2024 by belegost
Darkpig Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 7 hours ago, belegost said: All bones, no meat. Potatoes have bones? *eats crunchy potato* I think you may be right.
belegost Posted April 7, 2024 Author Posted April 7, 2024 3 hours ago, Darkpig said: Potatoes have bones? *eats crunchy potato* I think you may be right. I like the way you think. So, about that new land stuff, is that a separate area like Falskaar or map extension like Bruma?
Darkpig Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 18 minutes ago, belegost said: I like the way you think. So, about that new land stuff, is that a separate area like Falskaar or map extension like Bruma? I'm pretty sure it is a separate area. I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
belegost Posted July 22, 2024 Author Posted July 22, 2024 (edited) Rebuilding my load order (AGAIN!) so I'm bumping this. Would be appreciated if more people chimed in. I'm still somewhat unconvinced as setting up V/G/U seems like a lot of work what with all the patches and so on and appears to be the type of a mod that you would set up a dedicated load order and a dedicated save for. Knowing nothing about them I;m not sure I want to commit to it. And I'm fucking lazy as hell and I don't care about storylines in Skyrim mods much (with AA long time ago as a sole exception, but that was when I still played male characters). So the perspective of all that reading, installing, troubleshooting and patching for a bunch of mods I literally have no clue about, and am not sure if they suit my tastes, is off-putting. However I will take anything you say under consideration. Convince me. Edited July 22, 2024 by belegost
danna233 Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 This is a horror mod. I am not a fan of such content and I install Vigilant only for the armor and additional enemies running around Skyrim, strong enough not to die from one hit.
Grey Cloud Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 On 4/6/2024 at 7:20 PM, Darkpig said: Unslaad is started by touching a doll "Show me on the doll where Nazeem touched you"
belegost Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: "Show me on the doll where Nazeem touched you" I can only show where I touched him. With a brick. At high velocity.
ebbluminous Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 9 hours ago, belegost said: I can only show where I touched him. With a brick. At high velocity. Only one brick? Shame on you!
belegost Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 26 minutes ago, ebbluminous said: Only one brick? Shame on you! One's all I needed.
alphafr Posted December 29, 2024 Posted December 29, 2024 (edited) Summary To play in the following order (its a meta story over multiple mods) Vigilant>Glenmoril>Dac0da>Unslaad Unslaad is linked to the dragonborn, recommended to finish main story, feels out of place if you play as non dragonborn as it tap directly into it lore and abilities of it Short version you're put on trials to prove your worthiness for what awaits you at the end of times Gameplay wise : its Soulslike, big map with little to not quest and a lot of info floating around it along secrets and easter eggs, you have choices with consequences Only Vigilant is (I think) fully voiced, the rest is either unvoiced or AI generated voices Edited December 29, 2024 by alphafr
belegost Posted December 30, 2024 Author Posted December 30, 2024 10 hours ago, alphafr said: Soulslike With Skyrim's combat system? Ugh...
belegost Posted January 3, 2025 Author Posted January 3, 2025 On 12/29/2024 at 2:28 PM, alphafr said: Vigilant>Glenmoril>Dac0da>Unslaad There's a Delayed Start mod, which as one of the options has a requirement to have finished Dac0da before Vigilant starts. The mod page actually outright claims that Dac0da is a prequel to Vigilant. Can you weigh in on that please?
belegost Posted January 3, 2025 Author Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) For the record, I started installing Vigilant and some patches for my load order. My fucking god, I spent 40 minutes alone scrolling through "Requirements" drop-down list looking what patches are available. Edited January 3, 2025 by belegost
alphafr Posted January 5, 2025 Posted January 5, 2025 (edited) On 1/3/2025 at 10:29 PM, belegost said: There's a Delayed Start mod, which as one of the options has a requirement to have finished Dac0da before Vigilant starts. The mod page actually outright claims that Dac0da is a prequel to Vigilant. Can you weigh in on that please? The english translation page seems to confirm your infos but the main page by Vicn says nothing about the order which the mods are to be played, id guess your right and Dac0da is the first in order Edited January 5, 2025 by alphafr
belegost Posted March 2, 2025 Author Posted March 2, 2025 (edited) Alright, I have finally started Vigilant. Or, at the very leat I am at the inn in Dawnstar and am about to speak with the NPC. Yes, it took a while. I used one of the delayed start options, so I had to level up to 25 first and finish certain quests, but I'm finally ready to dive in. Question: Any other mods you would recommend as companion mods for Vigilant? And I mean anything. Atmosphere, gear, whatever, but apart form Glenmoril/Unlslaad. I'm passing on those for now. I had used the "shortcut" option to see one of the areas. I am actually excited because what I saw was very promising, at least in terms of level/location design and atmosphere. It's late now, but I will start it properly tomorrow Edited March 2, 2025 by belegost
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