[Idea/ModReq] SexoutSexChange

[Quixotic]

What should I put here, what should I put here, oh! How about one of my most depraved fantasies ever!

So, say you're a seasoned, able-bodied Mojave wanderer, probably killed a shit ton of people, probably had sex with a ton of people, maybe had a few kids with Cass or Sunny, or even Veronica. Or maybe you've done it with some guys, like Arcade or maybe Boone? Or maybe you're a n00b: fresh out of the grave, not yet a wasteland V.I.P, not even Sunny'll have sex with you. Whichever one you are, the only thing that matters is that you're a guy, and your venturing out into the wastes in search of adventure.

So, say you stumble upon a shabby, broken down shack, or house, or bunker, or something. You go in, and find something like an Autodoc (or maybe just that thing Caesar has at the end of his bed). The things broken, but you think with your skill, you can fix it. So, either you can fix it (repair skill is 40 or above), or you can't (repair skill is less than 40, shame on you). If the latter, then you'll have to go back out into the wastes and kill a few Radscorpions, Molerats, and probably a few innocent traders. When your leveled and happy, you go back to the shack/house/bunker and fix the Autodoc/Caesar robot doctor. So, having fixed this rather impressive machine, you decide to try it out.

Now here the tricky, programming, I-have-no-idea-how-to-do part. The Autodoc works just like the Autodoc in OWB: you have a barber option and a surgery option (I know there were others in OWB, but I can't remember them). So, say you pick surgery, because you decide, "I could do with a little nose job." Now here comes the cheaty, other programming bit. The Autodoc "malfunctions" and would now induce the sexchange command, before using the showplasticsurgeonmenu command. So, now when the surgery menu shows up, it shows a girl's face, but at this point, the player does not know it's their's. How odd. You see no way of closing it, so you mess around with the menu and make the girl's face pretty good looking, and finish it (if you have facial hair, which looks ridiculous, you can get it off the girl's face by changing presets). Expecting your own surgery menu to show up after the mysterious girl's face came up, you are surprised when the Autodoc ejects you, apparently without having done anything.

 

You now notice two things (explained to you in a pop up message):

1. You have lost all your stuff. The Autodoc seems to have taken it during the surgery, and has failed to give it back.

2. You're a woman, with all those gross lady bits.

 

You panic, and pound on the Autodock, but to no avail. At this point, interacting with the Autodock in-game should make a message pop up saying it needs to recharge or something. You have no choice but to wait, and with nothing better to do, you decide to leave the shack/house/bunker.

 

So, you exit the shack/house/bunker, and ironically, meet a group of slavers. They comment on how exposed you are, and how dangerous it is for you to be roaming around in such a way without protection. When they try to capture you, you try to explain that you are not a woman, but really a man, and, depending on what point you were at in-game, a very important and influential man. This makes the leader of the slaver amused, and he attempts to prove to you your femininity by raping you. After the rape seen, you fall unconscious, and wake up in some kind of slave camp, or maybe just some basement, but NOT THE LEGION CAMP.

 

You now have to options/ways to progress in the quest:
1. You can accept your new role as a woman and sex slave, and be allowed a certain degree of freedom in the slave camp. You could also be sold to the Legion or Powder Gangers, where you will remain a slave, but are expected to have submissive dialogue. Or, you could be given to Gamorra or the NCR as a free prostitute. If you go to Gamorra or the NCR, you are basically free. At this point, the sex change quest will be complete, and the Autodoc would have unlocked, so you could then return to get your stuff.

2. You can refuse to accept being turned into a woman, and resist your captures, which results in you being constantly and mercilessly raped by them. You could also be sold to the Legion or the Powder Gangers, which might give you a new dialogue option to say that you're actually a man in response to a legionary's or a Powder Ganger's proposition. Saying that would probably also get you raped. You could also be sold (not given, this time) to Gamorra or the NCR, as a personal slave for one of the heads of Gamorra or a corrupt number of soldiers from the NCR. This line of choices would also give you escape options in every stage, in the slave camp, in Gamorra, or in the NCR. Escape options are already included in the other Tryout mods, so they would not need to be added. You may even be sold to and "used" by people you may have know, worked with, and done quests for throughout your game!

 

This would be a quest driven mod, the quest starts when you enter the shack/house/bunker and see the Autodoc, leading to your quest objectives being:

- Fix the Autodoc.
- Test the Autodoc.

- Try to regain access to the Autodoc.
- It's hopeless. The thing's sealed shut. You might as well leave, and wait for it to recharge.

And so on.

 

This is an idea for any modder. I'm terrible at scripting my self, and about the only thing I can do is write some dialogue or maybe make the story. If any serious modders like this idea, they can have it and work on it as they like.

[WiseSomewhere]

I think a better way to get the sex change would be instead of going to change your appearance, maybe you could have some slavers/bandits/w.e show up and offer you a quest to find them a female for them to "enjoy" and they offer you a hefty reward for bringing them one. They tell you about a device that they claim can create clones of people whose DNA is stored inside the machine, all you have to do is go an pick which person (pick your appearance in this case) that you want. After doing this, it would then proceed as you said, your stuff would be stolen by the machine, you would then be forced to leave the area since you have no other options, and they meet, rape, and capture you once you leave.  

[Quixotic]

I think a better way to get the sex change would be instead of going to change your appearance, maybe you could have some slavers/bandits/w.e show up and offer you a quest to find them a female for them to "enjoy" and they offer you a hefty reward for bringing them one. They tell you about a device that they claim can create clones of people whose DNA is stored inside the machine, all you have to do is go an pick which person (pick your appearance in this case) that you want. After doing this, it would then proceed as you said, your stuff would be stolen by the machine, you would then be forced to leave the area since you have no other options, and they meet, rape, and capture you once you leave.  

Hmm... maybe, but one of the points is that they don't know you've actually changed sex. They just think you're a normal woman. Maybe if you try to get back to the slavers, and they don't know you're the guy they sent away, and enslave you. But your idea makes sense, and I'm not actually making it myself, so who knows. Maybe that's what'll happen.

[WiseSomewhere]

Well, I think that they would send you in, knowing that you would be turned into a woman by the machine, take advantage of that fact, and then sell you to another group who would then think you truly are a woman. Just makes more sense IMO.

 

If I were to walk up to a machine that can change how I look and then it shows female options...I would be like...hey, that's not me, why is the machine turning me into a woman. I would then proceed to just abandon the machine and say screw this. Just trying to think of a way that would cause a male character to actually go through with the operation without suspecting a thing, that's the point I was trying to make here. 

 

They would be doing this with the intention of easily coming up with women that they could then sell to casinos/legion/slavers, etc for quick cash. Just my 2 cents on the thing, little bit more appealing if there is no suspicion or cause for alarm from the actual character. Just saying that a machine that changes your appearance and then shows you a female figure...most guys would be like "Ya eff this, I don't wanna be a woman."

[Evilrunner]

How about this for an idea: Player get's told about the location by a bunch of scavengers. They tried accessing a computer system, but corrupted it and caused a security bot to activate making them flee. The player being afraid of no mere robot goes in to try and complete the job. Player then goes to use the machine, logs in as a (female) employee. Computer then informs them the profile is corrupt and that they should complete the ID rebuild, then the face gen screen is shown. At the end player gets knocked out, wakes up as a woman and meets the slavers.

 

A bit rought, but it at least gives the player a bit of a motivation to finish the sex change part.

[Quixotic]

Well, I think that they would send you in, knowing that you would be turned into a woman by the machine, take advantage of that fact, and then sell you to another group who would then think you truly are a woman. Just makes more sense IMO.

 

If I were to walk up to a machine that can change how I look and then it shows female options...I would be like...hey, that's not me, why is the machine turning me into a woman. I would then proceed to just abandon the machine and say screw this. Just trying to think of a way that would cause a male character to actually go through with the operation without suspecting a thing, that's the point I was trying to make here. 

 

They would be doing this with the intention of easily coming up with women that they could then sell to casinos/legion/slavers, etc for quick cash. Just my 2 cents on the thing, little bit more appealing if there is no suspicion or cause for alarm from the actual character. Just saying that a machine that changes your appearance and then shows you a female figure...most guys would be like "Ya eff this, I don't wanna be a woman."

You make sense. If the slavers knew, then sold you to a group that didn't know, that would make sense.

 

How about this for an idea: Player get's told about the location by a bunch of scavengers. They tried accessing a computer system, but corrupted it and caused a security bot to activate making them flee. The player being afraid of no mere robot goes in to try and complete the job. Player then goes to use the machine, logs in as a (female) employee. Computer then informs them the profile is corrupt and that they should complete the ID rebuild, then the face gen screen is shown. At the end player gets knocked out, wakes up as a woman and meets the slavers.

 

A bit rought, but it at least gives the player a bit of a motivation to finish the sex change part.

No, that's also a good idea.

 

I'm glad people are starting to reply to this topic. If enough people are interested in it, I hope to see it become an actual mod.

[Soap desu]

Make it so mod community. 

[WiseSomewhere]

How about this for an idea: Player get's told about the location by a bunch of scavengers. They tried accessing a computer system, but corrupted it and caused a security bot to activate making them flee. The player being afraid of no mere robot goes in to try and complete the job. Player then goes to use the machine, logs in as a (female) employee. Computer then informs them the profile is corrupt and that they should complete the ID rebuild, then the face gen screen is shown. At the end player gets knocked out, wakes up as a woman and meets the slavers.

 

A bit rought, but it at least gives the player a bit of a motivation to finish the sex change part.

 

I think this is the best, just maybe needs a little more detail. 

 

Scavengers/explorers/etc/whoever, tells you (maybe after charging you some caps as a "finders fee", they wanna make some money after all) about a location that is said to have lots of high tech goodies in it. They tried to loot the place but ran into various obstacles (be it insufficient tech prowess, inability to overcome defenses, etc), so they give the information to you. So you go to explore the place and see what you can find. You enter the lobby and see that to get into the rest of the building, you need an ID. There are a few already in the computer that you can try, 2 female id's and a male id. The male id and one of the female id's are corrupt beyond all repair, but the other female id is salvageable, you just need to remake the identity profile or something. It directs you to a machine sitting next to something (say, an operating table, auto doc, or disabled robot). Using the computer would pull up the same 3 ID's from before, but you can only access the single female id. You click it, get thrown into a female chargen, finish making the female, and then when you exit the computer screen, the screen goes black. Throw in some text windows describing what happened (something like, "After finishing the ID, the robot nearby sprang to life and knocked you unconscious. Upon waking up, you notice that all of your items have been taken from you, but worst of all, you now seem to be a woman.) Your then essentially forced to either proceed into the building with the hopes of finding your items and figuring out how to reverse your gender change, or accepting that your a woman and giving up your items. If you leave, then maybe there can be some slavers that just so happen to be passing by and take you. If you go inside, you trip some kind of alarm that could either activate some non lethal robots to knock you out, which would then lead to you waking up in a slaver camp or something similar (basically same effect as just walking outside) or maybe the alarm would draw the attention of the nearby slavers, they would come in, see you, have them all rape you, and then take you prisoner. 

 

No matter what, you would end up being taken by slavers and would have to figure out a way to escape and make it back to the initial location in order to retrieve your gear and reverse the gender change if you wanted. (Maybe give a perk for both outcomes, deciding to remain a female or deciding to undo the gender change.)

 

Just kind of expanding on what you came up with Evilrunner. There are probably better options for this, this is just what I could come up with in ~10 minutes while falling asleep. 

[regkar]

Well my suggestion for the mod is :the  autodoc  gets a virus in it's programming. Being that along with nuked the comps are boned with viruses. Instead of getting repaired on the operating table or chamber you get a sex change or race change maybe even a random one (let the chips fall where they may). Hey! it's all for laughs and throws a curve at you .

[Pkatt]

My first thought was to do this at the beginning.   When Doc Mitchell pulls you outta the grave and patches you up, and asks you if everything looks alright, the player would say, "umm doc, I think you made one big mistake,...I'm a guy, you made me a girl"    Doc could then offer up some lame excuse, or something like he had been wanting to experiment on something like this for a while, and since you were as good as dead anyway, he figured he would give it a shot.   He could guilt trip you by saying that he DID save you after all, so you could do a  little for him in running the experiment for a couple days and let him know of any adverse reaction.   Player could think, oh well, yeah, he DID save me, its the least I can do, so at that point, figures well, may as well make myself look hot.     Then as the player continues to report back to the Doc to be examined for any adverse effects, the Doc not only refuses to change the player back, but it becomes increasingly apparent that the Doc wants a little action.  The Doc could try to get the player to do things under pretense of "testing" his operation.  If the player refuses, the Doc could try to rape the player, or sell the player to slavers, whatever.   Perhaps at some point the player could hear about the machine somewhere to change back, if they wanted, but would have to find it.

 

just a little different scenario, that popped into my head when I read this.

[WiseSomewhere]

Except Doc isn't really a mean/evil/cruel kind of char so that just wouldn't fit lore wise at all.

 

Adding onto my above example, in regards to you going inside (after the sex change) as opposed to just leaving, maybe instead of tripping an alarm (and causing slavers or something to show up) or causing non lethal bots to knock you out (and then get captured by slavers or somebody who happens to come along while your knocked out). I think you could have it so that a group of prospectors/adventures/etc are in the area now (the same person who told you about the area told them, they figured since you haven't shown back up yet, you must be dead or something, so they told somebody else about it). Since you already "fixed" the id, they were able to enter the main building and pick it clean (except for your gear which would be hidden and/or physically impossible to get until you finish the quest or something). You wake up and stumble your way inside looking for your stuff, and they detect you, decide to have some fun with you and drag you along with them for a while before selling you to slavers/legion/etc.

[drazil]

If the interface that comes up is female, it could still work if there's no way out but to perform the chages.  If you find yourself trapped in the auto-doc, with gender change the only escape, it could allow customization while still appearing as forced on you.

[Quixotic]

My first thought was to do this at the beginning.   When Doc Mitchell pulls you outta the grave and patches you up, and asks you if everything looks alright, the player would say, "umm doc, I think you made one big mistake,...I'm a guy, you made me a girl"    Doc could then offer up some lame excuse, or something like he had been wanting to experiment on something like this for a while, and since you were as good as dead anyway, he figured he would give it a shot.   He could guilt trip you by saying that he DID save you after all, so you could do a  little for him in running the experiment for a couple days and let him know of any adverse reaction.   Player could think, oh well, yeah, he DID save me, its the least I can do, so at that point, figures well, may as well make myself look hot.     Then as the player continues to report back to the Doc to be examined for any adverse effects, the Doc not only refuses to change the player back, but it becomes increasingly apparent that the Doc wants a little action.  The Doc could try to get the player to do things under pretense of "testing" his operation.  If the player refuses, the Doc could try to rape the player, or sell the player to slavers, whatever.   Perhaps at some point the player could hear about the machine somewhere to change back, if they wanted, but would have to find it.

 

just a little different scenario, that popped into my head when I read this.

First of all, as Jdavet90 said, Doc isn't evil, and I don't think this scenario would be in his character. Secondly, if that happened, you wouldn't exactly have been a male from the start, you just claim that you were, taking out a key point in the main idea, as well as most of the ideas that have been building on it.

 

 

How about this for an idea: Player get's told about the location by a bunch of scavengers. They tried accessing a computer system, but corrupted it and caused a security bot to activate making them flee. The player being afraid of no mere robot goes in to try and complete the job. Player then goes to use the machine, logs in as a (female) employee. Computer then informs them the profile is corrupt and that they should complete the ID rebuild, then the face gen screen is shown. At the end player gets knocked out, wakes up as a woman and meets the slavers.

 

A bit rought, but it at least gives the player a bit of a motivation to finish the sex change part.

 

I think this is the best, just maybe needs a little more detail. 

 

Scavengers/explorers/etc/whoever, tells you (maybe after charging you some caps as a "finders fee", they wanna make some money after all) about a location that is said to have lots of high tech goodies in it. They tried to loot the place but ran into various obstacles (be it insufficient tech prowess, inability to overcome defenses, etc), so they give the information to you. So you go to explore the place and see what you can find. You enter the lobby and see that to get into the rest of the building, you need an ID. There are a few already in the computer that you can try, 2 female id's and a male id. The male id and one of the female id's are corrupt beyond all repair, but the other female id is salvageable, you just need to remake the identity profile or something. It directs you to a machine sitting next to something (say, an operating table, auto doc, or disabled robot). Using the computer would pull up the same 3 ID's from before, but you can only access the single female id. You click it, get thrown into a female chargen, finish making the female, and then when you exit the computer screen, the screen goes black. Throw in some text windows describing what happened (something like, "After finishing the ID, the robot nearby sprang to life and knocked you unconscious. Upon waking up, you notice that all of your items have been taken from you, but worst of all, you now seem to be a woman.) Your then essentially forced to either proceed into the building with the hopes of finding your items and figuring out how to reverse your gender change, or accepting that your a woman and giving up your items. If you leave, then maybe there can be some slavers that just so happen to be passing by and take you. If you go inside, you trip some kind of alarm that could either activate some non lethal robots to knock you out, which would then lead to you waking up in a slaver camp or something similar (basically same effect as just walking outside) or maybe the alarm would draw the attention of the nearby slavers, they would come in, see you, have them all rape you, and then take you prisoner. 

 

No matter what, you would end up being taken by slavers and would have to figure out a way to escape and make it back to the initial location in order to retrieve your gear and reverse the gender change if you wanted. (Maybe give a perk for both outcomes, deciding to remain a female or deciding to undo the gender change.)

 

Just kind of expanding on what you came up with Evilrunner. There are probably better options for this, this is just what I could come up with in ~10 minutes while falling asleep. 

 

I like your idea. This keeps the slavers/scavengers or whatever unaware of the possible gender swap that could happen in the facility, thus keeping them in the dark that the player is actually male when they come across him, while also supplying a plausible reason for the player's capture. 

 

If the interface that comes up is female, it could still work if there's no way out but to perform the chages.  If you find yourself trapped in the auto-doc, with gender change the only escape, it could allow customization while still appearing as forced on you.

Yes! That's the exact point I was trying to get across! Thank you for understanding.

[WiseSomewhere]

Being "stuck" in an autodoc just doesn't make sense though. There would have to be some kind of restraints or something that would hold you captive until you make a decision, which autodocs wouldn't be able to do that. I was just thinking that there needs to be a logical reason as to why you would go through with "designing" a random female person that you would unknowingly become. Being stuck in a menu isn't logical, but performing the action without the understanding that you will become that which you make is.

[Quixotic]

Being "stuck" in an autodoc just doesn't make sense though. There would have to be some kind of restraints or something that would hold you captive until you make a decision, which autodocs wouldn't be able to do that. I was just thinking that there needs to be a logical reason as to why you would go through with "designing" a random female person that you would unknowingly become. Being stuck in a menu isn't logical, but performing the action without the understanding that you will become that which you make is.

Well, think of Christine in Dead Money (if you have it). She was trapped inside an Autodoc, and you had to go get her. I think in a malfunctioning autodoc, it's perfectly believable that the thing wouldn't let you leave until the operation was over, an operation that you wouldn't know you were actually undergoing.

[mollydeal]

I was going over forums when I stumbled across your forum and idea struck me your trying make so one autodoc does work instead have two or maybe three autodocs do work say first one malfunctioning one changes into woman nonreversible. then their be mini quest find second one that say least give chance change appearance of female form. Then finally third autodoc with  associated quests  be able change  you back to male. The setting since has so many experimental autodocs  my choice would be medical research lab which had been taking over by a slaver gang. The slaver gang more or less ignores you when you are male except maybe to attack you which could be reason you need to use the first autodoc in the first place. The slavers after been change into woman slap slave collar on you also strip of armor and weapons. Which means you  have to finish the quest with what you can salvage their. I would also suggest if using pregnant mod and female pregnant at time third auto doc would not change back to a male. The location near  goodsprings but not in it so this mod could be fun interesting way to decide what your appearance would be like. The layout first floor would be general offices including a nurse office with the first malfunctioning autodoc. The second floor would be experimental plastic surgeon area with second autodoc in it but to get to second floor need I say mini quest on finding key to second floor which either one slaver has or in a desk in one of the offices somewhere. The second floor would have slightly  higher level slavers with the key on head slaver of third floor and have earn key buy doing whatever the slaver ask.I had not decide what be on third floor with final autodoc but think should be some kind of game changer something besides slavers. I also have suggestion not sure if this one good though that exit to medical lab is auto locked after you enter it with the key to unlock exit on third floor. I would also think on one computer in office should have locations of  the autodocs and location of emergency relaese door key is at on the third floor. To start the quest for this place have old prospector in goodsprings maybe old friend of easy pete who visiting him tell you  about the place. I thought about what could be on third floor and what would think of prototype robot doctors who are glad they  finally have patient to work on?  I am no modder these just my idea for this forum I really tried but to mod but having trouble working 3d geck  fact  is it gives me instance migraine hmm maybe should try scripting that does not give me headaches.

[windsongbard]

This sounds like a challenge that I really wish I had the skills to try and pull off but alas I do not. I certainly like the idea although for anyone who picks this up as a project I would like to make a suggestion.  This may complicate things a bit but come up with the framework for the sex change in a separate mod.  In other words make something that other modders can pick up and run with if so inclined for their own projects and not one specific to the mod.  You probably don't want to tie it to a quest mod and make it unusable for other modders is what I am saying.  At any rate it is a very interesting idea and hopefully someone picks it up.

 

The Windsong Bard

[mollydeal]

If anyone interested I thought I remembered in fallout nexus this mod called cheat terminal which found while looking for something to change height The cheat terminal itself would not fit this as a mod but with it came plastic surgery and think name changing terminal which could be used for this type of mod. I downloaded mod and terminal works fine for changing male to female. It could be a base for mod of type this thread about.

[Guest]

Just use showracemenu -> Mission accomplished.

[Quixotic]

Just use showracemenu -> Mission accomplished.

That wouldn't be the point, would it?

[sen4mi]

showracemenu is the only mechanism in the game that I know of, which determines the player's gender, and i do not think you can disable any of its features. I could be wrong, of course.

 

One of the challenges in modding this game is: coming up with a story line which fits with the things you have control over.

[jaam]

There is the SexChange function It works as well on the PC as on NPC. The issue would then be the hair/face/eyes which would most likely be reset.

 

[sen4mi]

Ok, I did not know that.

 

But have you tried using it? Do you know if it works?

[brocules]

Ok, I did not know that.

 

But have you tried using it? Do you know if it works?

 

It works fine, for me at least. I've been making heavy use of it lately, while testing gender-specific dialogue. The face it produces isn't bad at all either, at least when changing from female to male. Not sure about male to female though.

[jaam]

It is used during character creation to switch between Male and Female so it should work.

As for the face, it looks like a merge between your original face and whatever the default oposite gender face is for your race. So éeffect will vary".

Now if you want to arrange the look, you can call the "Barber" menu (showBarberMenu), which won't allow to revert the sex change (or scult the face though).

 

EDIT: Which is what the ShowPlasticSurgeonMenu is about! I knew the Sink AutoDoc could do all kinds of things.