RitualClarity Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 I have a nice little game going along and the NPC's are dressing during the animation. At first it was towards the end and not each time. Now it is constant. I don't want to mess the otherwise properly working load just randomly reactivating mods or disabling all the mods to reset the NPCs. Any good ideas appreciated. [spoiler=Of course the almighty load order.]FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmCompanion Core.esmRobCo Certified.esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutSlavery.esmSexoutLegion.esmSexoutStore.esmSexoutPregnancyV3.esmmsexBase.esmMikotoBeauty.esmSomeguySeries.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Equipment.esmProject Nevada - Rebalance.espSexoutAffairs.espSexoutZAZ.espSexoutCrowdsB.espSexoutCompanions.espmsexVeronica.espSexoutFiends.espSexoutWorkingGirl.espmsexCourtesan.espmsexFort.espSmallerTalk.espSexoutHookupsAlt.espSexoutSex.espSexoutRapeGame.espSexoutFadeToBlack.espSexoutSexkey.espApril+May.espMikotoBPWastersOverhaul.espMikotoBPCCFull.esppopulatedcasino.espSexout Certified.espSexoutRapist.espSexoutReward.espSexout Rufus Fix.espSexoutLobos.espCompanionDe-Equip.espmerccustom.espNVWillow.espSexoutWillow.espRobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.espSunnyCompanion.espMikotoBeauty.espSexoutAffairsMikoto.espNewVegasBounties.espNewVegasBountiesII.espTheInheritance.espFreeside Open Patch.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espMergedPatchv2.espTotal active plugins: 63Total plugins: 63 I doubt it is the load order I played around with that a bit already. Not moving it out of the order needed. Just up or down the list in-between other mods. Edit: I have already use FNVedit and it went through the list and no conflicts so I was able to make a "mergedPatch". Didn't solve the problem and the problem did exists before the merged patch. Edit: I have just reloaded the NVSE. No real change. The NPC was nude for all of about 3 seconds before getting dressed again.
KainsChylde Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 I've experienced this myself, and the culprit makes no sense from what I can find. It's the Sunny Companion mod. I don't know why and I don't know how, but I've only had this problem with her installed.
RitualClarity Posted April 18, 2013 Author Posted April 18, 2013 I've experienced this myself, and the culprit makes no sense from what I can find. It's the Sunny Companion mod. I don't know why and I don't know how, but I've only had this problem with her installed. Thanks for the quick post. I saw that many viewed but nobody posted and thought I was SOL for a solution. It is strange. I have had that mod before but don't remember having problems with it. I even ran the FNVedit to see if something was clashing and hoped that it would fix that. I will try removing her and see if it returns to normal. Do you use another Sunny Companion Mod? If so which one that works for you. Edit: I tried to remove and start a game again but the bodies still get dressed mid sex. It doesn't happen as quickly as before but it still happens. I am going to try without any companion mods.
KainsChylde Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 I've used both the original Sunny Companion by Gurk_Meja and the improved version by LoogieMkII. I'm currently running Improved Sunny.
Borisni Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 The redressing during sex is often caused by a mod that changes actors inventory during sex, usually caused by removing or adding tokens during sex.If that is in your case, the problems will be gone after just disabling the problematic mod (no clean save needed, just load current game). It could be caused by one or more mods, they could have something to do with sexout, or not. So, the 'simple' way would be disabling mods one by one, until it stops happening.If this is your case, and you find the one (or more) that are making actors redress, please do tell us, it could be that author of the mod does not know about the problem.Hope this helps
Halstrom Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 The redressing during sex is often caused by a mod that changes actors inventory during sex, usually caused by removing or adding tokens during sex. If that is in your case, the problems will be gone after just disabling the problematic mod (no clean save needed, just load current game). It could be caused by one or more mods, they could have something to do with sexout, or not. So, the 'simple' way would be disabling mods one by one, until it stops happening. If this is your case, and you find the one (or more) that are making actors redress, please do tell us, it could be that author of the mod does not know about the problem. Hope this helps Yeah I'm starting to wonder if swapping my Misc tokens to Armor to make them invisible was a good idea. Most of my adding is disabled if Sexout is animating the actor but I think birthing could have this issue, I haven't done much testing on NPC's.
RitualClarity Posted April 18, 2013 Author Posted April 18, 2013 In the beginning of the game it worked fine. I am playing a male but has the pregnancy mod running. I thought some nice punishment if I "knocked" up one of the npcs or a companion. I changed the settings appropriately. Only I would cause pregnancies etc. Increased the length of the pregnancy from the normal. I believe about 3 or 4 months. Something to give a nice spread as I work my way through the game. I thought about the tokens as well, because the issue acts exactly like it would if I used the "additem" command to a NPC or myself during the act. It took some time to start happening. At the time there was about 2 that were pregnant that I am aware of. (showinventory). Sunny just miscarried. About 2 months of game time in then it started happening. I have removed all the mods for companion. Tryout (in case someone is trying to start a conversation) and still it happens. It starts to work for a brief time and by the 3 or 4 time the npc is redressed almost instantly. I have checked the inventory during the times that it started to work (showinventory) and there are nothing added. During the issue with redress I again (showinventory) and there are tokens added. I believe sperm tokens added. Before 4 sperm tokens and after the redressing 8 sperm tokens. There might be other tokens added i cant remember right now. It is entirely possible that I have a corrupted download or a drive issue that I am unaware of. If others aren't having this issue so that might be the case. I don't have any exotic mods on my load order . Companion mods were removed as well as Tryout (in case it was trying to interrupt the acts). It is a basic load that many individuals here have. I will check the drive. Get a fresh download of SexoutNG, SCR and Pregnancy, and create / extract the data into folders as such for quicker load and removal if issues arise. (companion mods together., body mods together, Sexout base requirements, SCR etc.) If it happens again I will be at a total loss.
RitualClarity Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 With a clean install. Re-install of the NVSE, Extender 11 FVE edit etc. I have almost no mods running and still get the redressing issue. I can't see any changes as mentioned before. [spoiler=Current Load Order]FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutSlavery.esmSexoutLegion.esmSexoutPregnancyV3.esmSexoutStore.esmSexoutZAZ.espSmallerTalk.espSexoutHookupsAlt.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espTotal active plugins: 20Total plugins: 20 Disabled a few more mods and have sexkey to test instead of HookupAlt (female based mod used with male. Maybe issues? ) [spoiler=New Load]FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutZAZ.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espSexoutSexkey.espSexoutRapeGame.espTotal active plugins: 16Total plugins: 16 Now it works, I mean the npc's don't get redressed. Sometimes don't get animations but they stay undressed. EDIT: Loaded the rest of the mods from the first load order except Pregnancy Stable Version 20130310 [spoiler=New New Load Order ]FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutSlavery.esmSexoutLegion.esmSexoutStore.esmSexoutZAZ.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espSexoutHookupsAlt.espSmallerTalk.espSexoutSexkey.espSexoutRapeGame.espTotal active plugins: 21Total plugins: 21 Still Works>>No redressing using Hookups, sexkey, etc. Now with the Pregnancy v3 it still works. Makes me think something corrupted the save file.
Halstrom Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 With a clean install. Re-install of the NVSE, Extender 11 FVE edit etc. I have almost no mods running and still get the redressing issue.ScreenShot2.bmpScreenShot3.bmp I can't see any changes as mentioned before. [spoiler=Current Load Order]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutStore.esm SexoutZAZ.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutHookupsAlt.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp Total active plugins: 20 Total plugins: 20 Disabled a few more mods and have sexkey to test instead of HookupAlt (female based mod used with male. Maybe issues? ) [spoiler=New Load]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutZAZ.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutSexkey.esp SexoutRapeGame.esp Total active plugins: 16 Total plugins: 16 Now it works, I mean the npc's don't get redressed. Sometimes don't get animations but they stay undressed. Hmm I'm wondering if it's in Pregnancy, I have a funny feeling I'm occasionally adding a RemovePregnancyToken to be sure Pregnancies are cleared, I got a feeling I may not have a check on that to stoip it occuring during animations.
RitualClarity Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 With a clean install. Re-install of the NVSE, Extender 11 FVE edit etc. I have almost no mods running and still get the redressing issue.ScreenShot2.bmpScreenShot3.bmp I can't see any changes as mentioned before. [spoiler=Current Load Order]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutStore.esm SexoutZAZ.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutHookupsAlt.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp Total active plugins: 20 Total plugins: 20 Disabled a few more mods and have sexkey to test instead of HookupAlt (female based mod used with male. Maybe issues? ) [spoiler=New Load]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutZAZ.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutSexkey.esp SexoutRapeGame.esp Total active plugins: 16 Total plugins: 16 Now it works, I mean the npc's don't get redressed. Sometimes don't get animations but they stay undressed. Hmm I'm wondering if it's in Pregnancy, I have a funny feeling I'm occasionally adding a RemovePregnancyToken to be sure Pregnancies are cleared, I got a feeling I may not have a check on that to stoip it occuring during animations. Well Halstrom it seems to be working with SCR and Preg. currently. If others haven't reported it then it might of just been some random even that screwed something up. Next time I will run some clean saves and slowly rework/reload the mods. Since it happened with a totally fresh install and config of the game the only thing left was the saves. I will continue with loading mods and paying a little more attention to when it happens. The first time it happens for whatever reason I will copy a current load order. and work from there. You might have a point. The current game save I am using is a non pregnant one. There are no pregnancies at all I am sure of that. Maybe if there was one it might start again. I just don't know how to make a "insta preg" spell I have to do it the "old fashioned way"
Halstrom Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 With a clean install. Re-install of the NVSE, Extender 11 FVE edit etc. I have almost no mods running and still get the redressing issue.ScreenShot2.bmpScreenShot3.bmp I can't see any changes as mentioned before. [spoiler=Current Load Order]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutStore.esm SexoutZAZ.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutHookupsAlt.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp Total active plugins: 20 Total plugins: 20 Disabled a few more mods and have sexkey to test instead of HookupAlt (female based mod used with male. Maybe issues? ) [spoiler=New Load]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutZAZ.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutSexkey.esp SexoutRapeGame.esp Total active plugins: 16 Total plugins: 16 Now it works, I mean the npc's don't get redressed. Sometimes don't get animations but they stay undressed. Hmm I'm wondering if it's in Pregnancy, I have a funny feeling I'm occasionally adding a RemovePregnancyToken to be sure Pregnancies are cleared, I got a feeling I may not have a check on that to stoip it occuring during animations. Well Halstrom it seems to be working with SCR and Preg. currently. If others haven't reported it then it might of just been some random even that screwed something up. Next time I will run some clean saves and slowly rework/reload the mods. Since it happened with a totally fresh install and config of the game the only thing left was the saves. I will continue with loading mods and paying a little more attention to when it happens. The first time it happens for whatever reason I will copy a current load order. and work from there. You might have a point. The current game save I am using is a non pregnant one. There are no pregnancies at all I am sure of that. Maybe if there was one it might start again. I just don't know how to make a "insta preg" spell I have to do it the "old fashioned way" There is semen and Gestating Offspring tokens in the test box in Doc Mitchels that should cause pregnancy if taken into your inventory. Hmm just checked that, I do seem to have checks in there and it is only added once at the end of a pregnancy.
RitualClarity Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 There is semen and Gestating Offspring tokens in the test box in Doc Mitchels that should cause pregnancy if taken into your inventory. Hmm just checked that, I do seem to have checks in there and it is only added once at the end of a pregnancy. The issue if it is with pregnancy is that the character is male. The previous test before the current problem was female and it worked fine. Gave birth etc. It might be that it doesn't like being used with a Male. Before it did work just fine if you didn't mind the annoying pop up of clothes being two tight etc. I didn't care and accepted this with my current attempted run through. I just made the gestation a very long time. Is there a command "additem" that will give the same result. When I can force a pregnancy on a NPC? I then can see from a current working game save if it cause trouble by "waiting". I am actually curious if it will happen again without companions and complex mods and only a basic load. Also I still have some old saves that I might be able to test from. If so is there something I should do with them to help diag this issue with only the current load order to help limit the problem maker. Edit: Found a previous save from the game that had Sunny Pregnant and right before she miscarried. Now you can see some of the inventory at various moments when the events were happening. I believe that this shows that whatever it was causing the issue was persistent in the save. If I move to the most recent one without Pregnancy only running Sexout and SCR it seem to return to normal functioning. However of course when I add it back it still works as required. Perhaps I will try to make one of the NPC's pregnant and "wait" for the pregnancy to advance on a proper working game save and see if it returns to having issues.
Halstrom Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 There is semen and Gestating Offspring tokens in the test box in Doc Mitchels that should cause pregnancy if taken into your inventory. Hmm just checked that, I do seem to have checks in there and it is only added once at the end of a pregnancy. The issue if it is with pregnancy is that the character is male. The previous test before the current problem was female and it worked fine. Gave birth etc. It might be that it doesn't like being used with a Male. Before it did work just fine if you didn't mind the annoying pop up of clothes being two tight etc. I didn't care and accepted this with my current attempted run through. I just made the gestation a very long time. Is there a command "additem" that will give the same result. When I can force a pregnancy on a NPC? I then can see from a current working game save if it cause trouble by "waiting". I am actually curious if it will happen again without companions and complex mods and only a basic load. Also I still have some old saves that I might be able to test from. If so is there something I should do with them to help diag this issue with only the current load order to help limit the problem maker. Edit: Found a previous save from the game that had Sunny Pregnant and right before she miscarried. Sunny Pregnant.bmpSunny Redressing.bmpSunny MisCarrying.bmpSunny Sex After Miscarrying.bmpWith Crowds..bmpEnding Inventory List.bmp Now you can see some of the inventory at various moments when the events were happening. I believe that this shows that whatever it was causing the issue was persistent in the save. If I move to the most recent one without Pregnancy only running Sexout and SCR it seem to return to normal functioning. However of course when I add it back it still works as required. Perhaps I will try to make one of the NPC's pregnant and "wait" for the pregnancy to advance on a proper working game save and see if it returns to having issues. Hmm are Clothes too tight popping up for Male characters? Any particular outfits?
RitualClarity Posted April 20, 2013 Author Posted April 20, 2013 Hmm are Clothes too tight popping up for Male characters? Any particular outfits? It was previous editions of Pregnancy. It would act as if the individual that was pregnant was you even if it was another NPC. This time It would name the NPC like when Sunny had a Misscarrage. I haven't seen the clothes to tight for quite a while however I haven't been playing a male playthrough. I tested and it indeed happens when a NPC is pregnant, at least in my game. However I thought it was simply because my character was a male so I used the "showracemenu" and changed to a female on a save that was working and shortly after Judy got pregnant the bodies started to get dressed again. I removed pregnancy on the pregnant save. Checked to make sure that there were no pregnancies and tested with the female play through. I used the additem to give Sunny sperm and after some time she became pregnant and about 3 to 5 days wait clothes started appearing again. I removed the pregnancy mod and made a clean save without that mod included early before any pregnancies as a male and it seems so far to work. It appears without the pregnancies on my game the redressing doesn't occur. I haven't played/tested enough into the game to be sure but it seems that the pregnancy is causing this particular issue. An added note when returning to a game with a pregnancy without having that mod running Pregancy tokens are still present in the NPC's. Is this suppose to happen? I had to save without the pregnancy mod and exit out of the game and return to remove them from the NPC's to get the game to return to a non-preg state. [spoiler=Load Order]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm SexoutStore.esm SexoutZAZ.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutHookupsAlt.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutSexkey.esp SexoutRapeGame.esp Total active plugins: 21 Total plugins: 21 I don't know of anything else that can be causing the issue. SexoutPregnancyV3-20130325.1 Sexout Common Resources Stable Version (SCR) 201300328.1 SexoutNG 2.6.77 The Above are the versions of the mods that I am using. Is there anything else you can think of to test this since my load is shot and I will be reloading the files anyway and creating new saves? If so let me know before I purge all of this.
Halstrom Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 It was previous editions of Pregnancy. It would act as if the individual that was pregnant was you even if it was another NPC. This time It would name the NPC like when Sunny had a Misscarrage. I haven't seen the clothes to tight for quite a while however I haven't been playing a male playthrough. I tested and it indeed happens when a NPC is pregnant, at least in my game. However I thought it was simply because my character was a male so I used the "showracemenu" and changed to a female on a save that was working and shortly after Judy got pregnant the bodies started to get dressed again. I removed pregnancy on the pregnant save. Checked to make sure that there were no pregnancies and tested with the female play through. I used the additem to give Sunny sperm and after some time she became pregnant and about 3 to 5 days wait clothes started appearing again. I removed the pregnancy mod and made a clean save without that mod included early before any pregnancies as a male and it seems so far to work. It appears without the pregnancies on my game the redressing doesn't occur. I haven't played/tested enough into the game to be sure but it seems that the pregnancy is causing this particular issue. An added note when returning to a game with a pregnancy without having that mod running Pregancy tokens are still present in the NPC's. Is this suppose to happen? I had to save without the pregnancy mod and exit out of the game and return to remove them from the NPC's to get the game to return to a non-preg state. [spoiler=Load Order]FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm SexoutStore.esm SexoutZAZ.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutHookupsAlt.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutSexkey.esp SexoutRapeGame.esp Total active plugins: 21 Total plugins: 21 I don't know of anything else that can be causing the issue. SexoutPregnancyV3-20130325.1 Sexout Common Resources Stable Version (SCR) 201300328.1 SexoutNG 2.6.77 The Above are the versions of the mods that I am using. Is there anything else you can think of to test this since my load is shot and I will be reloading the files anyway and creating new saves? If so let me know before I purge all of this. Nope, I've seen bugs like that that or the weapon re-equipping stutter I just couldn't fix, ignored them and they went away with a clean save. I'm a bit burned at the moment, just put my 11yo dog down due to cancer this week and it's catching up, I'm just tweaking a few little things and play testing before I get back into some deep & meaningful bughunting
RitualClarity Posted April 20, 2013 Author Posted April 20, 2013 Sorry to hear about your dog. It can take everything out of you when things like that happen. Thanks for all your input. I will likely go forward and play around with selecting some more mods and preparing them for a male run through. If I can get it to work the way I want with FNV and Sexout. The clean save idea is what I will take from this and if it happens again like some random glitch or bug I will just have to make a new clean save and see if that solves the problem. I think It would of made a world of difference if I had done that when it originally had the issue. I am still learning after all. I guess I can mark this as solved, well as much as can be and move on.
LLwpex01 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Sorry about your dog, Hal ... had mine for 18 yrs before he went ... like losing a family member. PS: Having the same redressing issue with Sunny as above ... using PregV3 Stable.
RitualClarity Posted May 2, 2013 Author Posted May 2, 2013 PS: Having the same redressing issue with Sunny as above ... using PregV3 Stable. My issue consisted with every NPC including Sunny. I didn't get rid of the issue until a complete tear down and reload of the game. Including deleting all the saves and settings. I nuked the refrences etc. Then and only then did it fix the problem. I still haven't test played with a male and pregnancy. Are you having this issue with a male character and sunny?
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