I'm surprised there isn't a Dragon Enslavement mod.

[MadMansGun]

12 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

Just tell the overgrown lizard to whip his dick out cause you wanna dock him.

.....and this is the answer you would get for asking a dragon for sex like that:

What foul Words are these.wav

No dovah would stoop to such vile service.wav

 

[Kaziix]

Will this mod add more animations or will it only use the ones from HCOS? Cuz there arent that many in there

[MadMansGun]

7 minutes ago, Kaziix said:

Will this mod add more animations or will it only use the ones from HCOS? Cuz there arent that many in there

no it's using both HCOS & Billyy's dragon animations.

[Guest]

15 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

nd this is the answer you would get for asking a dragon for sex like that:

Considering they are noble Aedra I don't think they'd like you asking for sex at all, since you are still technically a lesser creature.

 

and the Bend Will shout forces them to your command, so you can word it however you want and they have to do it.

 

I don't know, the dialogue is just cringy and overly..."m'lady".

[Blaze69]

1 hour ago, RussianPrince said:

Considering they are noble Aedra I don't think they'd like you asking for sex at all, since you are still technically a lesser creature.

See one of my posts in the previous page about  my thoughs on Elder Scrolls dragons and sex. Bottom line, I'd say Alduin would hate it, Paarthurnax wouldn't be too happy about it but would still be a bit curious, and Odahviing may be willing to give it a shot just for shits and giggles.

 

Those specific dialogues are for Alduin, though, and his (voiced) responses match the tone.

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and the Bend Will shout forces them to your command, so you can word it however you want and they have to do it.

This dialogue is specific to Alduin and not related to other dragons and/or Bend Will; but then again he is supposed to be bound to the PC's will (original mod said Akatosh made Alduin your bitch as a punishment for his treason, but I think there could be a lore-friendlier explanation for it and I'm working on it) and while he can be angry about it he has no choice but to obey so I guess you still have a point.

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I don't know, the dialogue is just cringy and overly..."m'lady".

Dialogue suggestions are always welcome, my writing skills suck ass but it's not like there's people fighting over who gets to write dialogue for dragon porn so I had to make do with what I had (i.e. me).

 

The thing is I hate when mod-added dialogue blatantly doesn't match the vanilla dialogue style and/or is low-quality in general (Punctuation rules? Caps? Ain't nobody got time fo dat! Who cares if reading it makes your eyes bleed? It's porn!). Unfortunately the vanilla game doesn't have any examples of obscenity or sex talk at all so that's how I figured it would sound if it was actually there, but as I said my writing skills suck, so...

 

This would be much easier if we were talking about Fallout, because there's plenty of examples already and I could go for the "Now I'm going to ride your dick" approach, but since the "dirtiest" insult we can hear/say in Skyrim is "skeever butt",  I didn't know how to make it match the vanilla style.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

Odahviing may be willing to give it a shot just for shits and giggles.

That's why I love Odahviing, such an adventurous personality. During the fight at Dragonsreach he answers your call out of pure curiosity.

 

2 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

I guess you still have a point.

Of course I do.

 

2 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

it's not like there's people fighting over who gets to write dialogue for dragon porn

/r/nocontext

 

2 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

obscenity or sex talk at all so that's how I figured it would sound if it was actually there, but as I said my writing skills suck, so...

Erikur during Elenwyn's party. Holy shit. He says "bitch" at some point and also tries to make advances during as well.

 

If you need to, splicing dialogue is an option, as that was done for Amorous Adventures and it works well for the most part.

 

2 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

"dirtiest" insult we can hear/say in Skyrim is "skeever butt",  I didn't know how to make it match the vanilla style.

You can always splice dialogue to say, "I want to stick it in your butt" or something along those lines. There's TONS of informal dialogue, you just have to look for it.

[Blaze69]

35 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

That's why I love Odahviing, such an adventurous personality. During the fight at Dragonsreach he answers your call out of pure curiosity.

Seriously, though. Oda has only something like 10 lines of dialogue only and yet he's pretty much the only character in the game that I actually like and also feels like he's an actual friend of the player. He actually gives you credit for your feats unlike everybody else who only gives you crap and treats you like an errand boy (like that Tsun jerkass shooing you back to mortal-land like if you just didn't wipe the floor with freaking Alduin), and he isn't nearly as smug as the other dragons. He's legit.

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Erikur during Elenwyn's party. Holy shit. He says "bitch" at some point and also tries to make advances during as well.

Meh. Still pretty tame.

 

Fallout NV had some neat gems, like pretty much everything about Cook-Cook and the Fiends. IIRC the bounty hunter that was tracking him goes "I don't mind risking my life but I'm not risking my asshole with that Brahmin-fucking rapist". And there's the 1st Recon sniper talking about the Fiends and how when she sees a good-looking junkie she thinks about "pulling down her panties and eating her out right there". Pretty sure that's the same soldier that was raped by Cook-Cook herself, even.

 

(Been a while since I played FNV so I could be adding some extra obscenity but I'm pretty sure they say something pretty close to this).

 

EDIT: nevermind, I take it back, nostalgia filter made it more explicit that it was. Corporal Betsy (the sniper) says "I see some cute little number, and I'd rather get in her pants. So, maybe I'm a stone-cold bitch after all.". Still stronger than anything seen in Skyrim, but not as much as I thought. The part about "not risking my asshole" was on point, though.

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If you need to, splicing dialogue is an option, as that was done for Amorous Adventures and it works well for the most part.

 

You can always splice dialogue to say, "I want to stick it in your butt" or something along those lines. There's TONS of informal dialogue, you just have to look for it.

Actually the response dialogue is all already done and voiced, the issue here is the player lines/prompts (which is what you see on the image). PC lines in Skyrim don't need audio splicing or anything like that as they are not voiced (maybe you are mixing it up with Fallout 4?). Just takes a minute in xEdit to change them, and as long as the idea of the dialogue is the same (in this case, which animation/tag to use for the sex scene), it works out. The problem is actually coming up with the text itself.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

The problem is actually coming up with the text itself.

I can easily do that, just send me the scenarios you need written and I c an come up with something that fits in to the game well.

[Blaze69]

1 minute ago, RussianPrince said:

I can easily do that, just send me the scenarios you need written and I c an come up with something that fits in to the game well.

These are the animation/tag options so far:

• Solo: any solo masturbation animation, for now we only have MMG's self-suck so you could go specifically for that or keep it more "generic masturbation" in case MMG makes more in the future.
• Vaginal: anything that ends up with cum inside the PC (not necessarily female PC, though I did write it with that in mind). Could include "traditional" penetration but there isn't any such anim yet (not easy with the size of the dragon dick). For now it's only one of Billyy's bodyjobs that ends with the dragon cumming inside the PC.
• Docking: self-explanatory. One of MMG's anims.
• SexToy: MMG's anim, the dragon uses the PC as a living dildo to shove up his ass (there's also a female vaginal version but we don't have supported female dragon NPCs yet).
• Cowgirl: self-explanatory as well (literally riding the dick, in this case). One of Billyy's bodyjobs and MMG's Servicing anim.
• Bodyjob: anything where the PC grinds against the dragon's dick to make him cum. All 3 of Billyy's bodyjobs, plus MMG's Bodyjob and Servicing anims for now.

Each one should have a matching player prompt (80 chars max length) that is self-explanatory enough to know which anim you are picking while at the same time roughly matching the vanilla dialogue style.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

Each one should have a matching player prompt (80 chars max length) that is self-explanatory enough to know which anim you are picking while at the same time roughly matching the vanilla dialogue style.

SLEN does a pretty good job with basic descriptions. Have you used SLEN?

 

9 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

Solo: any solo masturbation animation, for now we only have MMG's self-suck so you could go specifically for that or keep it more "generic masturbation" in case MMG makes more in the future.

This would be...like basic voyeurism? Is the PC watching the dragon or vice versa?

 

10 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

we don't have supported female dragon NPCs yet).

I can do a mesh edit at some point that adds the Maximum CBBE vagina/anus to the dragon mesh. It would need to be reskinned by someone else as I suck at skinning meshes, but I can try. Every mod I make I get better.

 

11 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

we don't have supported female dragon NPCs yet).

If I could fucking figure out how to do dialogue I am a very good audio editor so I can make decent female dragon dialogue.

 

12 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

just gonna yeet all this worthless text

I really wish that someone could integrate the dialogue into Sexlab Solutions or Amorous Adventures as that would not require me to download 300 additional mods to get one mod for dragon anims to work.

 

In addition, why aren't we using standard SexLab to handle dragon animations? The manual adjustment feature is fine and using the "setscale" command or using the MCM to manually set actor scale worked fine for Hentai Creatures Dragon Rimjob. It should be pretty simple and IIRC the problem was setting scale through anim descriptors and NOT using the ingame actor scale function. I even made mention of this and was brushed off.

[Blaze69]

2 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

SLEN does a pretty good job with basic descriptions. Have you used SLEN?

Yes, but y'know, the kind of animations available for dragons don't exactly match standard humanoid-on-humanoid descriptions.

2 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

This would be...like basic voyeurism? Is the PC watching the dragon or vice versa?

PC watching the dragon, obviously. If you wanted the dragon to watch the PC, there are mods that trigger PC masturbation anims already, so what's the point.

2 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

I can do a mesh edit at some point that adds the Maximum CBBE vagina/anus to the dragon mesh. It would need to be reskinned by someone else as I suck at skinning meshes, but I can try. Every mod I make I get better.

 

If I could fucking figure out how to do dialogue I am a very good audio editor so I can make decent female dragon dialogue.

We already have female dragon bodies and all that jazz, including random/leveled female dragons. What we don't have is a unique voiced female dragon NPC to add dialogues to like Alduin or Odahviing are.

2 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

just gonna yeet all this worthless text

You asked for the scenes/animations that need dialogue, I wrote them. Don't ask if you are not going to bother.

2 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

In addition, why aren't we using standard SexLab to handle dragon animations? The manual adjustment feature is fine and using the "setscale" command or using the MCM to manually set actor scale worked fine for Hentai Creatures Dragon Rimjob. It should be pretty simple and IIRC the problem was setting scale through anim descriptors and NOT using the ingame actor scale function. I even made mention of this and was brushed off.

No idea what you are talking about, we're using normal SexLab animation functions here, what else could we be using? And we don't touch anything about scales either.

[MadMansGun]

2 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

I really wish that someone could integrate the dialogue into Sexlab Solutions or Amorous Adventures as that would not require me to download 300 additional mods to get one mod for dragon anims to work.

quit your bitching, creature sex mods are super easy to install now compared to the pre MNC days, back then we had to track down everything separately, Eg:

Gone's Bestiality Animations Pack & Bestiality Extras.

EternalBlack's Immersive Bodies.

diarawr's Horny Dogs of Skyrim.

Shiro's Adult Real Werewolves.

Leito86's Creature Features.

lordescobar666's SexLab Nude Creatures.

 

and we did not have a fancy guide to follow like this:

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3524-sexlab-more-nasty-critters-install-guide/

 

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

quit your bitching

No.

 

45 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

creature sex mods are super easy to install now compared to the pre MNC days,

not what I'm talking about. 

 

45 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

and we did not have a fancy guide to follow like this:

I already have MNC and HentaiCreatures installed. My complaint is with SLAL and its lack of immersion. I don't want to have to fiddle around in menus just to get an animation working.

 

With SLS and SLEN I don't have to do that. I just talk to an NPC and the animation plays and most of them are perfectly aligned if you don't mess with actor scale.

 

My complaint with HC is that I can't just use my vanilla atronach summon and stick my dick in that, I have to have a special spell for it.

 

Other mods require hot keys. A huge annoyance since I use a gamepad and not a KB/M.

 

If I knew more about animations and how the game handles them along with SL, I'd do it myself.

 

So you'll have to deal with my bitching in the meantime.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

unique voiced female dragon NPC to add dialogues to like Alduin or Odahviing are

I can do that, like I said I'm pretty good at editing audio. My issue is with getting it into a voicetype.

 

If you can give me another template for the voices needed I can cobble something together and post the files.

3 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

You asked for the scenes/animations that need dialogue, I wrote them. Don't ask if you are not going to bother.

Again, that's not what I meant. Quoting large blocks of text is redundant.

 

3 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

No idea what you are talking about, we're using normal SexLab animation functions here,

Then why does HCOS have so many dependencies if SexLab is already handling the animations?

 

I'm talking about requiring MatchMaker, SexLab Tools, MNC SLAL edition, and SLAL. HCOS shouldn't need any of those if the animations are handled by SexLab. Everything else is required by MNC and those dependencies are usually just drag and drop since MNC has most of them. In addition there's no reason for SLAL to exist, its purpose is redundant to SL Standard.

 

In addition, MNC SLALE needs SLT. SexLabTools is just a whole bunch of fucking around in menus to achieve a result that the mod should do on its own, this is why other mods such as Burning Skies (for the huge mess it is) function. The end user has to engage in a minimal amount of fuckery to get the mod working, that's what production is about and one reason I rarely release my mods (i.e. people such as myself who have gripes with impractical necessities).

[MadMansGun]

4 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

My complaint is with SLAL and its lack of immersion. I don't want to have to fiddle around in menus just to get an animation working.

"immersion" depends on what other mods you have installed, animations are called upon by there tags, changing how the animations are registered will do nothing for that. as far as SexLab is concerned SLAL animations ARE SexLab animations.

 

4 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

With SLS and SLEN I don't have to do that. I just talk to an NPC and the animation plays and most of them are perfectly aligned if you don't mess with actor scale.

they just play whatever registered animation matches the defined tags, and "even actor heights" may work fine for humans but it seriously fucks up some of the creature heights, so that is why i did what i could to disable it for creatures and standardize there heights.

 

4 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

My complaint with HC is that I can't just use my vanilla atronach summon and stick my dick in that, I have to have a special spell for it.

that's because you can't talk to normal atronaches/creatures, there races do not have the needed flag activated for that, the HC creatures have a "allow player dialog" script attached to them. besides that the stock summoning spells have a time limit.

 

4 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

Other mods require hot keys. A huge annoyance since I use a gamepad and not a KB/M.

well that's your problem, not ours. we use keyboards.

 

4 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

If I knew more about animations and how the game handles them along with SL, I'd do it myself. 

HA, good fucking luck with that, we all started using SLAL for a reason. if you don't like it then go back to MNCv9.

 

3 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

I'm talking about requiring MatchMaker, SexLab Tools, MNC SLAL edition, and SLAL. HCOS shouldn't need any of those if the animations are handled by SexLab. Everything else is required by MNC and those dependencies are usually just drag and drop since MNC has most of them. In addition there's no reason for SLAL to exist, its purpose is redundant to SL Standard. 

which goes to show how little you know about anything relating to MNC & HCOS

 

MatchMaker
Not needed, but its helpful for starting animations.
Personal note: I don't know why this was not just merged into SexLab's esm file, it would make more sense if SexLab included it's testing tool.

 

SexLab Tools
Technically it should not be needed, but there is some sort of crashing bug with wolf on wolf / wolf with other Creature animations that this mod somehow fixes, But regardless it's animation selection menu comes in handy.

(NOTE: THIS IS A SEXLAB PROBLEM DUE TO ITS LACK OF SUPPORT FOR CREATURE ON CREATURE ANIMATIONS, EVEN WITHOUT SLAL THIS WOULD STILL BE A PROBLEM)

 

More Nasty Critters: SLAL Edition
registers creature races into SexLab, adds creature penises to Creature Framework, comes with animations of it's own.

without MNC the creatures would just be dry humping each other....if they even get that far that is, they cant do jack shit if there races are not registered, Alduin for sure would be unfuckable.

 

SexLab Animation Loader
used to register new sex animations into SexLab by using json script files, allowing other mods to access them just like other SL animations, it also allows animations to be easily updated/edited/removed as needed without having to deal with papyrus scripts.

 

Creature Framework
Used to apply penises/nude skins onto Creatures by using json script files. HCOS comes with a fuck load of dragon meshes and has many penis options that are controlled with Creature Framework's MCM.

 

4 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

So you'll have to deal with my bitching in the meantime.

no, i will not. welcome to my Ignored Users list.

fuck off forever, live short and don't prosper, your dead to me.?

[Blaze69]

3 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

I can do that, like I said I'm pretty good at editing audio. My issue is with getting it into a voicetype.

 

If you can give me another template for the voices needed I can cobble something together and post the files.

No.

 

(See? This works both ways).

 

I mean, I could totally give you the structure of the dialogue and implement the voice files if/when you made them, but seeing how all you've done is complain and act like an entitled ass, I'm not going to bother. You asked for the scenes that needed dialogue to write said dialogue (allegedly), I posted it, and you ignored it and went on to bitch about semi-related stuff. I'm not falling for that again.

 

Also the dialogue is going to stay as it is. You don't like it, too bad. Make your own mod for that, then.

3 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

Again, that's not what I meant. Quoting large blocks of text is redundant.

Perhaps. But there's no need to be a jerk about it.

3 hours ago, RussianPrince said:

[I have no idea how MNC/HCoS work and I'm going to bitch about it instead of actually finding out first]

MMG already replied to this, so nothing more to add.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

I mean, I could totally give you the structure of the dialogue and implement the voice files if/when you made them, but seeing how all you've done is complain and act like an entitled ass, I'm not going to bother. You asked for the scenes that needed dialogue to write said dialogue (allegedly), I posted it, and you ignored it and went on to bitch about semi-related stuff. I'm not falling for that again.

I haven't ignored anything, I'm still working on dialogue that makes sense. To assume I've ignored it is asinine. I had some examples ready but I'm guessing you don't want them any more. Have fun with your neckbeardy dialogue.

 

I haven't been complaining, I've been asking for reasons why things are required out of curiosity.

 

11 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

Make your own mod for that, then.

Fine, I will. If you want to be such an ass about it too.

 

11 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

Perhaps. But there's no need to be a jerk about it.

Wasn't trying to be a jerk. If you haven't noticed from my other 600+ posts this is the way I speak/type. I am terse and say exactly what I' thinking.

[Blaze69]

50 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

I haven't ignored anything, I'm still working on dialogue that makes sense. To assume I've ignored it is asinine. I had some examples ready but I'm guessing you don't want them any more. Have fun with your neckbeardy dialogue.

You didn't state you actually intended to help with that at any point after I posted it, the only reply I got was "I'm going to yeet all this worthless text" replacing what I had writen. Usually when people remove text to prevent quote bloat, they write "[...]" or "snip" instead. What you wrote sure did sound like you were saying what I wrote there was worthless. Thus my assumption.

 

I am still interested in hearing it and would be willing to change it to what you have.

50 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

I haven't been complaining, I've been asking for reasons why things are required out of curiosity.

Wording is everything. What you consider "regular asking" may be seen as "being an entitled ass and making demands" by other people. Which is what happened here.

50 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

Wasn't trying to be a jerk. If you haven't noticed from my other 600+ posts this is the way I speak/type. I am terse and say exactly what I' thinking.

If you sound like you are being a jerk, I'm going to assume you are being a jerk, it's not my job to go through your entire post history to figure out whether that's true or not. Just like it wouldn't be your job to do the same if the roles were switched.

 

What surprises me is that you do seem to be aware that the way you speak makes you sound like a jerk to an external observer without context and yet you somehow expect people to not assume you are a jerk right away.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

Usually when people remove text to prevent quote bloat, they write "[...]" or "snip" instead. What you wrote sure did sound like you were saying what I wrote there was worthless.

If you haven't already noticed, I'm not like "most people".

 

5 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

I am still interested in hearing it and would be willing to change it to what you have.

I'm glad you have the capacity to change your mind, unlike some people.

6 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

Wording is everything. What you consider "regular asking" may be seen as "being an entitled ass and making demands" by other people. Which is what happened here.

Okay, well sorry if it came across that way. Wasn't trying to be demanding, was genuinely curious as to why some of the mods here have so many requirements.

 

7 minutes ago, Blaze69 said:

Just like it wouldn't be your job to do the same if the roles were switched.

So it's not normal to go through post history to judge character? I've been doing it wrong the whole time.

 

Anyways, this is what I have so far. It's written more from a dom perspective because of the Bend Will shout:

 

• Solo: "I'm going to watch you pleasure yourself."
• Vaginal (better wording would be "normal penetrative": "You're going to pleasure my hole(s)."
• Docking: "I'm going to use you for my own pleasure."
• SexToy: "You're going to use me for your own pleasure."
• Cowgirl: "I'm going to ride you."
• Bodyjob: "I'm going to stroke you with my body."

Tense and perspective (replace "I'm going to" with "I want (you) to" or something to that effect) can be changed.

[gregathit]

Clearly nothing but arguing going on here.

 

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