smoff Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I have gotten a few things done but I think I finally have run into a few limitations/issues. I was wondering if any of you know about how to address these: General probably doin it rong stuff. 1: Sex positions do not always line up groin to groin.(I attached a picture) 2: when they are pregnant it only shows if I take all their clothes off. Is there a mod to switch maternity clothes on them for better immersion? 3: these damn kids, always following me everywhere, how do I get them to just stay home? 4: certain npcs I cannot seduce, I get them to like me but then it goes to that they just don't like me tht way. General questions: 5: how do I edit the code, I am a capable programmer but have no idea how to get to the mod code to patch things. 6: is there a fast way to setup npc clothing to clothing items I like? 7: is there a way to give certain npcs DMM bodies and other differing versions of the hgec bodies? Is there a way to support DMM preggers? because it seems you get hgec and that is it. Crash Issue. 8:Active inventory spell(I use it to set clothes on npcs) causes a crash if I alter the inventory of a seller then try to barter with them. Seems to have started happening since I got the latest tamago version, the one that gives me a long text notice every time I open an npc inventory load order. Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm HiyokoClub.esm TamagoClub.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esm Knights.esm DLCBattlehornCastle.esm DLCHorseArmor.esm DLCFrostcrag.esm DLCThievesDen.esm DLCMehrunesRazor.esm DLCSpellTomes.esm DLCOrrery.esm DLCVileLair.esm SetBody.esm Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esm StaffOfSexualReassignment.esm Oblivion Weight Limit x20000.esm Border Removal.esm Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esm Lush & Gaudy Water.esm Ryk_Swimwear.esm Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esm Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esm Estrus.esm AnvilBayExpansion.esm Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esm Dread Knight Armor.esm Trashdog's SPB Heavy AB Shop.esm DMwardropemergednoenchant.esm Sirene Island_EV_V.1.1.esm ElsweyrAnequina.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esm x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esm Real_Mannequin.esm HHTest.esm VipCxj_HighHeels.esm Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esm Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esm Apachii_Goddess_Store.esm Nascosto Isles 3.esm SPB Serpent Suits.esm SPB Oppai Sensei.esm SPB DMMC Kuikomi Bikini SE v1100630.esm SPB DMMC Rose Set.esm adelina.esm AdventurerPlateArmor.esm AionWings50.esm R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esm Apprentice Sorceress.esm Retma Dresses.esm Blackwire.esm HGEC_BodyGlove.esm Captain_Molly_HGEC.esm Battle China Dress.esm CrimsonECHcup.esm Dancers clothes.esm Dark and Deep Crimson.esm ArynnsDrowWitchHGEC.esm R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esm R18PN - Fiona Armor.esm R18PN - FuruFuru Armor.esm ulfGlassArmor.esm R18PN - Heilige Mutter Armor.esm Ice Gowns for HGEC.esm IvyArmor_Full.esm DFSLoutfits.esm SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esm R18PN - Mizugi set.esm R18PN - Lingeries.esm moreundies.esm HGEC_special_armor_repl.esm BBBRoseoftheGuard.esm Sexy Ghost Armor.esm SB_SisterNightfallOutfit.esm SnowySignatureOutfit.esm TentacleWitches.esm UFF Warrior Skin.esm Wonder Woman New Uniform.esm Rockh00 Nouhime.esm SPB Body Suit 2.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esm LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esm LoversFSE.esm LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esm TamagoNews.esm TamagoShop.esm TamagoTopic.esm TamagoConfide.esm LoversTamagoClub.esm LoversEncounter.esm HiyokoGenerator.esm TamagoSetBody.esm TamagoPlayerHUD.esm LoversRaperS.esm LoversVoiceSSPplus.esm LoversProstitute.esm
Razarkis Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I have gotten a few things done but I think I finally have run into a few limitations/issues. I was wondering if any of you know about how to address these: General probably doin it rong stuff. 1: Sex positions do not always line up groin to groin.(I attached a picture) <-- there is a built in "alignment" feature using the number keys. See the documentation/FAQ post(s) for what key does what. 2: when they are pregnant it only shows if I take all their clothes off. Is there a mod to switch maternity clothes on them for better immersion? <--- this, I don't know. If you keep them naked... 3: these damn kids, always following me everywhere, how do I get them to just stay home? <--- Mad Companionship Spells! Great mod for NPC management. 4: certain npcs I cannot seduce, I get them to like me but then it goes to that they just don't like me tht way. Dunno this one, sorry. General questions: 5: how do I edit the code, I am a capable programmer but have no idea how to get to the mod code to patch things. <-- Depends on the file. Some, you can modify within the esp, others rely on .ini files for their commands and behavior. 6: is there a fast way to setup npc clothing to clothing items I like? <-- MCS allows you to trade, and they put on whatever you give them, depending on the situation - but setting them to particular items out of a *collection* gets interesting. But no fast way that I personally know of. 7: is there a way to give certain npcs DMM bodies and other differing versions of the hgec bodies? Is there a way to support DMM preggers? because it seems you get hgec and that is it. <-- SetBody is the only way I know - but afaik, you can only choose one mesh set for pregnancy, and it applies across everything. There IS a DMRA pregnant mesh set floating around. If you can't find it, PM me, I have it. Crash Issue. 8:Active inventory spell(I use it to set clothes on npcs) causes a crash if I alter the inventory of a seller then try to barter with them. Seems to have started happening since I got the latest tamago version, the one that gives me a long text notice every time I open an npc inventory <-- Yeah, I think Tamago doesn't like you playing with inventory. Sometimes it bugs, sometimes not. The "trade" menu in MCS does better than most for this, I've found.
gregathit Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 1.Make sure you have loversbackup2.esp installed (it can be found in the lovers minor mod pack), and then use the 1-4 to adjust the attacker and 9-0 to adjust the defender (the numbers at the top of your keyboard and NOT the keypad). Lovers will then save your adjustments for that animation. Now if you use non standard height npc's then you will be off if you switch. Animations are lined up with both assumed to be 1.0 (which is the imperial height). 2. There was a maternity body mod that only allowed you or other npc's to wear maternity cloths while pregnant. I don't know what it was called off the top of my head. 3. Get MCS (mad companionship skills) it is a companion mod that you can use to tell them to wait or go home. It can be found in the non-adult mod downloads section. 4. If you are using adultplayplus then you "can" get even married women to sleep with you. However, doing so is very hard. You have to keep pestering them and make sure your disposition stays up really high (90-100). 5. Look at the general tutorials section here: http://www.loverslab.com/Forum-Tutorials-Guides--33 6. Not sure what you are asking here. Are you wanting to give NPC's clothes to wear? If so MCS can help with that. 7. You need to get a setbody mod. A setbody mod allows you to cast a spell and change an NPC to any body that comes with it. There is one in development right here: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=10966 You can also change your own body type on the fly "in game" with a spell. 8. Well, your load order is a complete mess. You need to run BOSS and then hand order your lovers files to match the recommended load order here: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 Be sure to start a new game after changing your load order to test if everything is working correctly. If a new game works correctly then you can try cleaning your existing save game. Also....what is that deal with all of your files being listed as .esm? There should only be a few esm (master files) and the rest should be esp files!
smoff Posted August 22, 2012 Author Posted August 22, 2012 #4 I keep getting "I care for you greatly but not in that way" I have had no issue badgering married women into sex but the there are certain npcs it seems I cannot convince them. also as far as the esm thing.. I accidentally replaced the .esp with .esm when I was sorting the exported load list. So I don't have a lot of esms I just accidentally that in my text file.
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 #4 I keep getting "I care for you greatly but not in that way" I have had no issue badgering married women into sex but the there are certain npcs it seems I cannot convince them. also as far as the esm thing.. I accidentally replaced the .esp with .esm when I was sorting the exported load list. So I don't have a lot of esms I just accidentally that in my text file. Sounds like you're character has been friendzoned! Not much you can do there! I jest of course. So, what kind of NPCs are denying you? Essential ones, quest NPCs, or is it just random (or is it something else?). Does this happen with most NPCs or some? You could try resurreting the NPC in console and then trying again. Make sure their disposition is high. I'm not sure what are the specific paremeters, maybe some NPCs are simply not able to be seduced? And if talking and seducing won't land you in bed with that NPC, there are other more... deviant ways of getting them to comply, if you know what I mean...
gregathit Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 #4 I keep getting "I care for you greatly but not in that way" I have had no issue badgering married women into sex but the there are certain npcs it seems I cannot convince them. I have not had a single NPC that I could not eventually wear down' date=' from counts to beggars. Who is it that you are getting blocked from? Are you sure that your disposition with them is 100 and how many times have you pestered them? also as far as the esm thing.. I accidentally replaced the .esp with .esm when I was sorting the exported load list. So I don't have a lot of esms I just accidentally that in my text file. Ok, you had me really worried there.
smoff Posted August 22, 2012 Author Posted August 22, 2012 ah so some I have to get higher than 80? I will continue to badger them more . I cannot remember the npcs but if I find another who does it and can get their <3 of me to 100% I will post the name
gregathit Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 There are indeed some that won't wilt to you if you don't have at least 90. It is better to have 100 just to "be sure".
Nite_Star Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 For the pregnant scripted body mod you need SetBody 2ch-Edition TSpec http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/39966 This is the one I use for the 2 main trimesters #1 is nothing but the pregnancy shows after that.....
smoff Posted August 27, 2012 Author Posted August 27, 2012 I cannot inseminate the flower vendor women(no sperm shows up in their inventory)
gregathit Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 I cannot inseminate the flower vendor women(no sperm shows up in their inventory) Do they have a womb? I forget which plugin adds them. There is a possibility that they have been blocked. Don't know that for sure but I could understand if they were.
smoff Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 Well this one is having sex and has a womb, just does not get semen when I have sex with her. All of the flower girls seem to have it.
gregathit Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Well, it could be a load order issue, or a conflict or as I said before it could be that a script is purposefully blocking the flower girls from getting pregnant. Since I don't know you load order (I seriously hope it isn't still like the one in the OP) I can't do much on the first two and if it is the third then I can't do anything at all.
smoff Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 what is wrong with the load order? Other npc's get semen in their inventory.
gregathit Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 what is wrong with the load order? Other npc's get semen in their inventory. You clearly didn't read my post earlier in the thread. Go back and read post 3 and look at item number 8. Then use the link that I left in item number 8 to compare your load order to a recommend working load order (click on the spoiler at the bottom of the post) and I am betting your flower girls actually start getting pregnant.
smoff Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 I did and was following a different suggested order. I can try yours sure but I am asking if it is the lovers part in particular or other things that are wrong. It is a matter of trying to narrow it down to a specific cause. I can probably disable EVERYTHING but the xlovers stuff and try the load order for JUST xlovers related stuff or if it was other things. So that is what I was asking about. Does that help?
perfectioncat Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 I did and was following a different suggested order. I can try yours sure but I am asking if it is the lovers part in particular or other things that are wrong. It is a matter of trying to narrow it down to a specific cause. I can probably disable EVERYTHING but the xlovers stuff and try the load order for JUST xlovers related stuff or if it was other things. So that is what I was asking about. Does that help? Because flower vendor has the contraception flag of Lovers, the sperm is not received. It is an intention of the MOD producer. If the contraception flag is excluded if it wants to overturn it and to get pregnant by it, it is possible. The flag in this case is Clothing that functions as a flag not seen.
smoff Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 Ah, thank you! Is that a stability thing or just a developer preference?
perfectioncat Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Ah' date=' thank you! Is that a stability thing or just a developer preference? [/quote'] When the inventory of flower vendor is examined with MOD named RefScope, it has clothes named xLoversPkrContraception. Besides this, it usually has many things not displayed in the inventory. This is a flag managed with the Lovers system. There is a thing used by other another management methods, too. The NPC comes to be practicing birth control when clothes named this xLoversPkrContraception are deleted. The person who has clothes named xLoversPkrContraception is a specification in the Lovers system that practices birth control and considers the one. Oppositely, it enters the state of contraception when this is given to NPC without xLoversPkrContraception.
smoff Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 Yes, I understand. I guess I am asking if there was a reason for the decision to give them contraception
gregathit Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Yes' date=' I understand. I guess I am asking if there was a reason for the decision to give them contraception [/quote'] As they are Japanese and no one here at this site has any communication with them, I doubt we will ever know exactly why they did this, but one is free to speculate.....
smoff Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 What I figured out is that these NPCs are part of lovers prostitutes. Which is probably why they have contraception. Couldn't find the prostitutes readme, then remembered it was a book in my inventory. Even still though, this information is pretty awesome none the less. I am happy to know there are controls like this built in(the contraception thing)! this thread is really educational! Ok so my next problem: Occasionally, screwing in a hallway or near a wall will cause you to be thrown out of the level and you cannot return. If you are indoors you cannot use the fast travel to fix this. Suggestions on that?
gregathit Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 If you are stuck in a place that you can't get out of, then hit the console key and click around until there is noting displayed at the top of the screen (if you click a wall, it or anything else it will pop up an 8 digit hexidecimal code). If there is no 8 digit code up there then it is safe to type: tcl and hit the console key to exit the console. Now you can move out of the wall or whatever has you stuck and get yourself back into the room - try to be above the floor, now hit the console key again then type tcl again. This will cause you to drop a bit to hit the floor if you were above it. Try to avoid being too close to walls and such if you are having sex as this can happen. But if it does, then just use the tcl command and you are golden.
smoff Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 So these esp files how do I load just the file I need to edit it? All of the tutorials I am coming across have me editing an already installed mod. It seems like I am meant to dig through the interface and edit the settings but I am not sure I am doing it right. On the wiki page(http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/Main_Page) they are having me alter a spell in the oblivion file. I did go to your earlier link but it was about modeling and tweaking. I want to get into the actual scripts that control all these behaviors. Is the construction set not the tool I want?
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