TrueASDFMan Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Not really sure if I should post this in General or under Technical Support. Seeing as I currently don't even have Skyrim installed (downloading as I type this), I don't really need technical help, so here goes. With a few weeks of free time, I decided to make a fresh Skyrim installation. Already posted two questions, one about Body Mods, the other about Tropical Skyrim and Open Cities. (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/85181-cbbe-vs-unp-vs-cos-and-armors/?p=2015582 , http://www.loverslab.com/topic/85180-tropical-skyrim-and-open-cities-safe/). If you think there's anything more you would add, feel free. As mentioned in the title I plan on doing a succubus oriented playthrough. Player starts out normal and slowly turns. If you played Corruption of Champions (right, as if there's anyone that hasn't), that's basically my inspiration. Just without the whole turning evil part. I would also love to have faster combat, but all the mods I've found made it so combat became harder, be it by raising damage globally and everyone one- or twoshotting everyone else, by reducing health or by making a given mechanic like block or dodge absolutely vital. The moves themselves were just as slow as before and while dodges were mostly well implemented, they still felt choppy. Can't remember which mods I've tried so far, it's been a few months/years. Now, my questions is if there's any mods you can recommend me. The goal: Succubus gameplay, something like Lust damage would be great, if possible fast paced. I would like to start as a custom race (Driinkiin), however I'm not sure if that's compatible with PSQ. I saw the Skyrim Modding Guide here on LL, I'll follow that this time. Been using MO and Realvision for some time now, so the mods listed there work well for what I have in mind. The guide also said that I should pick one between Defeat, Submit and the like. However, a lot of the popular mods have those listed as required. Is it bad to have differnt ones installed? Below I posted my previous modlist, just so you can get a feel of what I played with. I know it's a total mess, it was thrown together after several breaks without really checking what was already installed. Held up surprisingly well, all things considered. Most of these mods I'll probably use again, though I need to remove redundant mods or those with the same job. Way to many mods scaled the character model. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm EFFCore.esm WM Flora Fixes.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm ApachiiHair.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm fox_shop.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm MiasLair.esp SPERG.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm daymoyl.esm CreatureFramework.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm SexLab Attraction.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm SharedSeranaDialogue.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Extended UI.esp SkyUI.esp FISS.esp AMatterOfTime.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp UIExtensions.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Tropical Skyrim.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Shout Like a Virgin.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp NonEssentialChildren.esp BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp EFFDialogue.esp BetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.esp BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp KS Hairdo's.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp NB-Scars.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp FNIS.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp Angelic_Demonic.esp KKSDrBWeightFix.esp HentaiSuccubusArmor.esp ElderOutfit.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp Vividian - Torches Preset.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Vividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp KCEDeathBell.esp HarvestOverhaul.esp CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp MilkModNEW.esp CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Rebirth Monster - WAFR Patch.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Traps Are Dangerous.esp WM Trap Fixes.esp TradeBarter.esp CACO_Bathing in Skyrim.esp WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp Yennefer_zzjay.esp Toccata as Elisif.esp Unique Uniques.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp SPERG-DB.esp SPERG-DG.esp NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp FNISSexyMove.esp SlaveTats.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SDpatch - frostfall.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SexLab Submit.esp SexLab Submit Serana.esp SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp Immersive Arousal.esp Jugs.esp SexlabAchievement.esp Angeli Devious Expansion.esp SexLab Approach.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp DeviousTraining.esp SexLabTools.esp SLA Monitor Widget.esp Real Flying.esp MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp HelmetToggle.esp DragonShoutVoice.esp HDT Havok Object.esp SLALAnimObj.esp KomAnimObjects.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp UtopiumUtilityPack.esp SLSO.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp SL Deadly Drain.esp DW.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp MFQAT.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp ZaForswornStory.esp Witch Of The Wild.esp MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp Tropical Skyrim -- Birds.esp zThingsInDark.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures+DLC2_Patch.esp High Level Enemies - SIC.esp CCO_SIC_Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - CRF Patch.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp SexLab-Stories.esp animal_mansion.esp Point The Way.esp TBOS.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp SexLab Beastess.esp DeadlyDragons.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp SPERG.esp sr_FillThemUp.esp BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp Toccata.esp BesEss.esp DibellasRecruit.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp Bijin Wives.esp Chaconne.esp CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp The Dungeon.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp AngrimApprentice.esp SpousesEnhanced.esp LoversComfort.esp SexLab_Hormones.esp FoxMerged.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp Succubus Heart.esp PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp FNISspells.esp SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp Devious Deviants.esp Beastess Forsworn.esp Rebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - Clothing & Clutter Fixes Patch.esp Rebirth Monster - EEO Patch.esp SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Spriggan Armor 2.esp FEMALE.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp FEMALE_DLCaddon.esp SexLab Enchantress.esp SSLToys.esp Beastess Vampire.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Open Cities Skyrim.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp AOS.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp RDO - CACO Patch.esp RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp RDO - Open Cities Patch.esp CACO_AOS_Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Jennifer.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp aaaDriinkiin Xmas Edition 2015.esp ks hair patch.esp ASLAL-Driinkiin Village Start.esp apachii hair patch.esp aaareindeer beast race followers.esp Thanks for any help and recommendations in advance.
TheNoble Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 You have most of the stuff already here that's needed, I wouldn't recommend PSQ and Succubus Heart ontop of each other, it just becomes too much stuff to manage at once.I prefer to use PSQ and PSQ Tweaks ,For the sake of processing speed, I'd remove the following:SL Separate orgasm,Immersive Arousal (You have a lot of this already in PSQ)Sexlab Attraction (You have this already in PSQ and tweaks)Sexlab Submit (You have this in defeat)I would also suggest Perkus Maximus, Apocalypse Magic and then following raulfin's load order.Edit:I also suggestRemoving SexLabMassMatchMaker (You have this in PSQ)Sexlab Aroused monitor widget (You have this in PSQ)Sexlab Achievement (You have plenty of motivation to do this from PSQ)FNIS Sexy MoveTheft Murder and Seduction (You do this in PSQ)Add FNIS PCEA2Once you clean this up a bit, fix the load order, i'd suggest setting it up using this guide here. I'd suggest removing hormones as well, but I also suggest a playthrough to see how many of these mods you won't end up using because of redundancy.
TrueASDFMan Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 Thanks for pointing out PSQ Tweaks. I completely missed that, even though it was released last time I played. Sounds a lot like what I wanted. Always shied away from PerMa. Used it once way back when and like it, but for some reason I never did after that. Gonna give it a try, just hope that with PerMa+Apocalypse I won't have too many spells. Will see. And thanks for pointing out the things PSQ already offered, I never got around to really figure everything out, that helps a lot. Though I'll probably keep Succubus Heart, I really like those kind of systems, personally.
TheNoble Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 The spells and changes of Perma, especially for the illusion and magic trees, make succubus gameplay much more rewarding. My character lives in Tirashan, which is perfect for her. When you add Fnis, and the new version of FNiS PCEA 2, I have some more suggestions for removalsSexlab Enchantress (PSQ Does this already and is more balanced)Angelic Halos and Demonic Horns - You can have PSQ load these meshes to make your succubus have horns without the mod. My succubus in my signature uses it. But yeah, the other really important thing is your load order. Its really buggered right now.
Darkpig Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 In terms of combat: Ultimate Combat adds more attack variety to NPCs: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36006/? You may want to consider TK Dodge as well: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/20923/? Mortal Enemies is essential. It Enemies have to do some actual work to hit you with melee attacks and ultimately keeps enemies from pulling a 180 degree WTF homing attack on you. It also reduces your ability to turn while attacking somewhat so you may actually have to aim your attacks: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73921/?tab=1&navtag=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D73921%26preview%3D&pUp=1 Mortal Enemies already has this integrated into it so this is optional. Attack Commitment is a bit more rigid than Mortal enemies when it comes to turning and only applies to humanoids. On the plus side you can use it with M.E: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70079/? A lock on system for your enjoyment: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75214/?
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