greenquesadilla Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 dead money and old world blues are unplayable for me. in dead money, the abandoned bunker always CTDs whenever i activate the sewer grate to it. in old world blues, robots that i have disabled cause the inventory screen when looting enemies to be stuck on the screen, preventing me from playing. what is strange is that these are the only two dlcs out of the 4 that are doing this. multiple re-installs haven't fixed it for me. the problem seems to only be attached to game areas of the dlcs and not the equipment since other mods that add dlc equipment to vanilla loot tables ( Project Nevada, for example) work just fine. here is my load order: FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm IWS-Core.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Equipment.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm New Vegas Redesigned II.esm DFB - Random Encounters.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp SpeedE Wheels Travel Systems.esm New Vegas Error Corrections COMPLETE - DLC.esm NVEC Performance Of The Gods - DLC - Warzones.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp IncreasedLegion1_1.esp Mojave Outpost - Revamp.esp Searchlight Outpost- Revamp.esp DeadlierExplosivesNV.esp Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp IWS-Core-Patrols.esp IWS-Core-Guards.esp IWS-Core-Civilians.esp IWS-DM.esp IWS-HH.esp IWS-OWB.esp IWS-LR.esp NoFastTravel_NV.esp WurstBarberMachine.esp Legion Redesigned.esp merccustom.esp Neckchains.esp NWIxiaarmor1.esp RadiiHairFix.esp Type3 Leather Armors.esp WastelandCourier.esp NVR- Lore version.esp NVR- Recommended.esp New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp KillingKarmaFix.esp AllCompanionsEssential 2.0.esp ED-E 3D Sound.esp NVWillow.esp noautoaim.esp RWD-NV v1.3 [Alternative Version].esp Respawn48HoursImproved.esp realistic headshots.esp WeaponModsExpanded.esp Project Nevada - WMX.esp WMX-ModernWeapons.esp WMX-DeadMoney.esp WMX-HonestHearts.esp WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp Western Sky.esp Western Sky - Darker Nights.esp Fellout.esp Fellout-OWB.esp Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp ILO - PipBoy Light.esp ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp Bouncing Natural Breasts.esp MoonShadowRace.esp jailhouserockette.esp CamOneLoC.esp NRCberets.esp BOSAlphaBunker.esp WeaponJammingMoreJams.esp Free Tribal Outfits.esp JillBSAA.esp T6M Female Power Armor NV.esp SexoutZAZ.esp SexoutCompanions.esp SmallerTalk.esp CamTwoRoC.esp SexoutHowAbout.esp SexoutBrutalRapers.esp SexoutKhans.esp SexoutKings.esp SexoutNCR.esp SexoutPowderGangers.esp SexoutWorkingGirl.esp SexoutFiends.esp Continue After End V1.7.esp WMX-MW-GRA.esp Type3MClothing_HH.esp Type3MClothing_OWB.esp
gregathit Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Well you do have quite a few overhaul mods and a dirty edit or two can totally wreck things. You might look at combining a bunch of your armor/clothing mods. Are these a duplicate that you should have only installed one of: NVR- Lore version.esp NVR- Recommended.esp and Western Sky.esp Western Sky - Darker Nights.esp and Fellout.esp Fellout-OWB.esp Honestly these two caused me "more" problems, rather than less when I had them installed: New Vegas Error Corrections COMPLETE - DLC.esm NVEC Performance Of The Gods - DLC - Warzones.esp
GSBmodders Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 most of the mods that are intended to boost performance have this effect and I grew tired of attempting to fallow the debates on whether or not any of these mods actually work as intended or cause more serious issue's. Normally I would write off accusations like that as user stupidity but when they come from extremely Knowledgeable mod authors it's just not possible to over look the potential risk. Anyway I have found that the safest way to boost f03 and new vegas performance is first shut down all non essential programs that are running on your pc, even if you are not using something chances are that it is actively searching for updates. Second add f03 and new vegas to your DEP exceptions list, doing this will reduce CTD's. After that lower your graphics settings. For those who are using older pc's the ENB silent hill mod will work and it will greatly reduce CTD's. When it comes to mods install nothing until you are absolutely sure of what they do and what they add to the game. If the description is not clear to you then ask questions and if your questions go unanswered then skip that mod. Adding two or more mods that do the same thing can seriously screw up your game
gregathit Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Very good advice GSB! Sometimes less can be more!
greenquesadilla Posted July 26, 2012 Author Posted July 26, 2012 i got rid of NVEC and the mods that do the same thing. now, i don't get any CTDs anymore, but i still can't access the abandoned BoS bunker. when i said that i crashed upon activating the sewer grate, i meant i get an infinite load screen that kills my computer, preventing me from doing ALT+TAB or CTRL+ALT+DELETE and forcing me to press the "power" button on my laptop to restart.
prideslayer Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Disabling DEP isn't really that hot of an idea, just FYI. The CTDs it causes are due to an error in the game engine somewhere. If left alone, the game will likely just get subtly corrupted rather than crashing outright. Programs in memory are split into two segments, code and data. Only code runs. Some bugs cause the program to jump (assembler speak for 'goto' or running a function) into the data segment. Some programs (mostly viruses / trojans) do this intentionally, because virus scanners used to only scan the code segment and not the data segment. You can turn it off if you like and you might be ok; the jump might just lead to a return or other benign instruction. Most often though other stuff will happen first, which will have a random effect that can range from nothing to corrupting the game and causing a crash -- or more likely, just trashing data somewhere else and causing bugs that seem entirely unrelated. Personally I'd rather the game just dumped me back to windows if the alternative is possible corruption that you may not notice until much later, but that may be present in many savegames going back indefinitely.
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