SD+ and Death Alternative bugs

[caocaothedeciever]

I posted for help in the original thread; but I wasn't able to get much help.  I hope someone else might have some suggestions for what's ailing my save!

 

 

My current mod list and load order:

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40038,"Bijin Warmaidens","3.1.0.0","BW v3.1 High Resolution Textures for CBBE-40038-3-1.7z"
63473,"Bijin Wives","1.1.0.0","Bijin Wives v1.1-63473-1-1.7z"
22818,"Boethiah for Good Guys","1.2.0.0","Boethiah for Good Guys 1-2-22818-1-2.zip"
28503,"Bounty Quest Fix","1.2.0.0","Bounty Quest Fix-28503-1-2.rar"
12235,"BR HoodCirclets","1.1.0.0","BR_HoodCirclets_v1_1-12235.rar"
24020,"Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition","1.0.0.0","Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition-24020-1-0.7z"
2666,"Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-","3.4.0.0f","1_Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition v3.4f-2666-3-4f.7z"
64798,"Campfire - Complete Camping System","1.8.0.0","Campfire 1.8 Release-64798-1-8.zip"
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37216,"Civil War Overhaul","f4.03","Civil War Overhaul-37216-4-03.7z"
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45894,"Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life","7.0.1.0","1_Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life-45894-7-0-1.7z"
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0,"Devious Devices for the Masses II","2.8.0.0","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/DD - For the Masses II v 2.8.zip"
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8943,"Diverse Guards Skyrim","4.9.0.0c","Diverse Guards Skyrim 49c Vanilla-8943-4-9c.7z"
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29025,"Drink Eat Sleep Bathe","20.0.0.0","Drink Eat Sleep Bathe Addon - Dragonborn-29025-1.zip"
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12933,"Extensible Follower Framework","4.0.2.0","1_Extensible Follower Framework v4-0-2-12933-4-0-2.7z"
34031,"Faction Armor","1.3.0.0","admod13-34031-1-3.rar"
35303,"Female Facial Animation","1.5.0.0","Female Facial Animation 1_5-35303-1-5.7z"
36286,"Feminine Females","1.22.0.0","Feminine Females Main file and Installer-36286-1-22.7z"
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52019,"Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO","1.3.0.0","Follower Commentary Overhaul-52019-1-3.7z"
11811,"Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS","6.3.0.0","FNIS Behavior V6_3-11811-V6-3.7z"
11163,"Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival","3.1.1.0","Frostfall 3.1.1 Release-11163-3-1-1.zip"
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0,"Fuz Ro Doh","d2015.4.24","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/Fuz Ro Doh 60-14884-6-0.zip"
14007,"GreenWaterFix v2 Compatible","d2015.11.29","GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard-14007-.7z"
23390,"Guard Dialogue Overhaul","1.4.0.0","Guard Dialogue Overhaul-23390-1-4.7z"
0,"hdtHighHeel beta0","d2015.4.24","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/hdtHighHeel_beta0_5-36213-beta0-5 (2).7z"
35841,"Helgen Reborn","105.3.0.0","Helgen Reborn V105_3-35841-105-3.7z"
7879,"Hoodless Archmage Robes","d2015.6.22","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/Hoodless Archmage Robes v121-7879-1-2-1.rar"
21700,"House of Horrors Alternate Ending","f1.00","HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding-21700-1-00.zip"
19733,"Immersive Armors","d2016.6.9","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/Immersive Armors v8-19733-8.7z"
58708,"Immersive Armors for CBBE - TBBP - Bodyslide","1.0.0.0","Immersive Armors for CBBE-58708-1-0.7z"
27644,"Immersive Weapons","1.5.0.0","Immersive Weapons-27644-1-5.7z"
36334,"Inconsequential NPCs 1 dot 9e","1.9.0.0e","Inconsequential NPCs 1 dot 9e-36334-1-9e.rar"
26468,"Insects Begone V31 - NMM","31.0.0.0","Insects Begone V31 - NMM-26468-V31.zip"
49743,"JContainers","3.2.6.0","JContainers_-49743-3-2-6.zip"
21720,"Left Hand Rings","1.5.0.0","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/LeftHandRings v1_5-21720-1-5.7z"
0,"Level","d2016.1.29","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/Level Multiplier (x5)-63828-1-0.zip"
8313,"Long hair for female Khajiits","3.0.0.0","Long hair for female Khajiits 3-8313.zip"
25395,"MacKom Lore Styles hair mod","f1.04","MacKom Lore Styles hair mod-25395-1-04.zip"
44596,"Mfg Console","1.1.0.0","MfgConsole-44596-1-1.zip"
0,"mslDeviousCaptures2","d2016.3.5","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/mslDeviousCaptures2.71.7z"
0,"NetImmerse Override v-3-4","d2015.11.29","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/NetImmerse Override v-3-4-4-37481-3-4-4.7z"
29373,"noRadiantJEDragonborn SDMC","d2015.8.18","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/noRadiantJEDragonborn_SDMC-29373-1-00a.zip"
58705,"PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions","3.2.0.0","PapyrusUtil - Scripting Utility Functions-58705-3-2.zip"
0,"PapyrusUtil v31","d2015.9.22","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/PapyrusUtil_v31.zip"
29624,"RaceMenu","3.4.5.0","RaceMenu v3-4-5-29624-3-4-5.7z"
601,"Realistic Force","1.9.0.0","Realistic Force-601-1-9.rar"
55555,"RS Children Overhaul","1.10.0.0","1_RSChildren - 1.1.0 Installer-55555-1-1-0.7z"
23906,"Run For Your Lives","2.0.6.0","Run For Your Lives-23906-2-0-6.7z"
0,"SD Cages 273","d2016.7.18","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/SD Cages 273.7z"
0,"SDPlus35","d2016.7.18","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/SDPlus35.7z"
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0,"SexLab CreatureAnimations v160","d2015.8.30","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/SexLab_CreatureAnimations_v160.zip"
0,"SexLabAroused V16b","d2015.5.6","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/SexLabAroused_V16b.7z"
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35327,"SG Female Eyebrows","1.0.0.0","1_SG Female Eyebrows-35327-1-0.7z"
35267,"SG Female Textures Renewal","1.5.0.0","SG Textures Renewal CBBE-35267-1-5.7z"
0,"Showers in Inns","d2015.11.28","C:/Users/Data/Desktop/Mods/Showers in Inns 1-11-35311-1-11.rar"
33526,"ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer","1.3.0.0","ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller 1_3-33526-1-3.7z"
3863,"SkyUI","5.1.0.0","SkyUI_5_1-3863-5-1.7z"
0,"SLAL","d2016.3.5","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/SLAL FunnyBizPack FemaleCreatureAnimations v13.4.7z"
0,"SLAnimLoader","d2016.3.5","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/SLAnimLoader-1.3.7z"
0,"SLDialogues24","d2016.7.22","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/SLDialogues24.7z"
0,"SOS","d2016.3.5","C:/Users/Data/Downloads/SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 3.00.004.7z"
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36006,"Ultimate Combat","2.7.0.0","Ultimate Combat-36006-2-7.7z"
33292,"Unique Uniques","1.8.0.0","Unique Uniques-33292-1-8.7z"
-1,"Unmanaged: Dawnguard","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: Dragonborn","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: HearthFires","",""
71214,"Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch","3.0.3.0","Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch-71214-3-0-3.7z"
28235,"When Vampires Attack","2.0.6.0","When Vampires Attack-28235-2-0-6.7z"
44916,"WindcallersPass","1.3.0.0","WindcallersPass-44916-1-3.rar"
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68000,"XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended","3.88.0.0","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended-68000-3-88.7z"
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My issues at the moment, are that whenever my character and her followers are enslaved by Sanguine's Debauchery; I'm running into several issues:

 

1. None of the mouths are fitting around the gags the way they should.

 

2. When we're enslaved, my followers go running off into who knows where, even if I use EFF to teleport them back.

 

3.  When I try to use any animation alteration, such as ZAZ's animation tester; my followers automatically jump back into the default kneeling position. 

 

If anyone could give me any suggestions for where to start, I'd really appreciate it.  I've already tried reinstalling, re-updating, and so far nothing has worked. 

Another issue- but it might not be related is this:

 

When I last updated Death Alternative, I now have TWO Death Alternative tabs in the MCM; and it seems to be working fairly smoothly- (although I have to reset player state for my FIRST 'death' or I get stuck in the bleedout animation; after the first time, it works fine.)  If anyone could give me any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it!  I have no idea what to do, or where to start anymore; I've tried LOOT organizing my load order; I've reinstalled, I've pretty much done everything I can think of. 

 

Thank you in advance!




 

[evilelf]

I posted for help in the original thread; but I wasn't able to get much help.  I hope someone else might have some suggestions for what's ailing my save!

 

 

 

My issues at the moment, are that whenever my character and her followers are enslaved by Sanguine's Debauchery; I'm running into several issues:

 

1. None of the mouths are fitting around the gags the way they should.

 

2. When we're enslaved, my followers go running off into who knows where, even if I use EFF to teleport them back.

 

3.  When I try to use any animation alteration, such as ZAZ's animation tester; my followers automatically jump back into the default kneeling position. 

 

If anyone could give me any suggestions for where to start, I'd really appreciate it.  I've already tried reinstalling, re-updating, and so far nothing has worked. 

 

Another issue- but it might not be related is this:

 

When I last updated Death Alternative, I now have TWO Death Alternative tabs in the MCM; and it seems to be working fairly smoothly- (although I have to reset player state for my FIRST 'death' or I get stuck in the bleedout animation; after the first time, it works fine.)  If anyone could give me any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it!  I have no idea what to do, or where to start anymore; I've tried LOOT organizing my load order; I've reinstalled, I've pretty much done everything I can think of. 

 

Thank you in advance!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you tried re-running FNIS just to be sure all animations are registered properly? Beyond that I can't offer much advice here. Personally I never run a serious play-through using SD and DA...the author of SD even suggests this. Even DA alone will eventually, sooner or later, glitch out my game. Unfortunately, for that reason...I've put it on my banned mods list. Hopefully you'll have more luck and can get this worked out. 

[Nick501]

 

I posted for help in the original thread; but I wasn't able to get much help.  I hope someone else might have some suggestions for what's ailing my save!

 

 

 

My issues at the moment, are that whenever my character and her followers are enslaved by Sanguine's Debauchery; I'm running into several issues:

 

1. None of the mouths are fitting around the gags the way they should.

 

2. When we're enslaved, my followers go running off into who knows where, even if I use EFF to teleport them back.

 

3.  When I try to use any animation alteration, such as ZAZ's animation tester; my followers automatically jump back into the default kneeling position. 

 

If anyone could give me any suggestions for where to start, I'd really appreciate it.  I've already tried reinstalling, re-updating, and so far nothing has worked. 

 

Another issue- but it might not be related is this:

 

When I last updated Death Alternative, I now have TWO Death Alternative tabs in the MCM; and it seems to be working fairly smoothly- (although I have to reset player state for my FIRST 'death' or I get stuck in the bleedout animation; after the first time, it works fine.)  If anyone could give me any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it!  I have no idea what to do, or where to start anymore; I've tried LOOT organizing my load order; I've reinstalled, I've pretty much done everything I can think of. 

 

Thank you in advance!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you tried re-running FNIS just to be sure all animations are registered properly? Beyond that I can't offer much advice here. Personally I never run a serious play-through using SD and DA...the author of SD even suggests this. Even DA alone will eventually, sooner or later, glitch out my game. Unfortunately, for that reason...I've put it on my banned mods list. Hopefully you'll have more luck and can get this worked out. 

 

Running FNIS again is definately the first step, as for the problems with your follows and what not I recommend running an FNIS consistency check. If neither of those solve your problem post here what FNIS says so we can see if everything is functioning properly with FNIS. Most problems with mods like that are FNIS issues.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I posted for help in the original thread; but I wasn't able to get much help.  I hope someone else might have some suggestions for what's ailing my save!

 

I would prefer to reply to these issues in the official thread but since I missed answering them there, here are my comments.

 

 

My current mod list and load order: 

My issues at the moment, are that whenever my character and her followers are enslaved by Sanguine's Debauchery; I'm running into several issues:

 

1. None of the mouths are fitting around the gags the way they should.

 

Which gags are these? 

Devious Devices leather gags or the Wooden gags from Zaz animation pack?

 

2. When we're enslaved, my followers go running off into who knows where, even if I use EFF to teleport them back.

 

That's normal.

There is a chance your followers will be sent away (to Mistwatch).

If the followers leave all the time, it is a bug I will try to fix.

I am currently testing more follower related issues for the next version.

 

3.  When I try to use any animation alteration, such as ZAZ's animation tester; my followers automatically jump back into the default kneeling position. 

 

That's normal. They are forced to kneel down and follow you when they are not dragged away. That impacts other animations.

I will try to add checks for sexlab animatins to disable the forced kneeling temporarily.

 

If anyone could give me any suggestions for where to start, I'd really appreciate it.  I've already tried reinstalling, re-updating, and so far nothing has worked. 

 

Another issue- but it might not be related is this:

 

When I last updated Death Alternative, I now have TWO Death Alternative tabs in the MCM; and it seems to be working fairly smoothly- (although I have to reset player state for my FIRST 'death' or I get stuck in the bleedout animation; after the first time, it works fine.)  If anyone could give me any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it!  I have no idea what to do, or where to start anymore; I've tried LOOT organizing my load order; I've reinstalled, I've pretty much done everything I can think of. 

 

Not sure why you would have two menus.

 

I will try to upgrade DA for testing soon (after the next release of SD+).

I will see if that happens to me as well.

 

Thank you in advance!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[caocaothedeciever]

 

1. I would prefer to reply to these issues in the official thread but since I missed answering them there, here are my comments.

 

 

2. Which gags are these? 

Devious Devices leather gags or the Wooden gags from Zaz animation pack?

 

 

3. That's normal.

There is a chance your followers will be sent away (to Mistwatch).

If the followers leave all the time, it is a bug I will try to fix.

I am currently testing more follower related issues for the next version.

 

4. That's normal. They are forced to kneel down and follow you when they are not dragged away. That impacts other animations.

I will try to add checks for sexlab animatins to disable the forced kneeling temporarily.

 

Not sure why you would have two menus.

 

I will try to upgrade DA for testing soon (after the next release of SD+).

I will see if that happens to me as well.

 

Thank you in advance!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you very much for your response ^^. 

 

Before the update, it was the "slave gag" which was a rope harness bit.  The current one looks like one of the ZaZ wooden bit gags, but I'm not entirely sure.  It's dark brown, with no harness, just a standard bit.  Followers mouths aren't opening the way they should.  I've been using ZaZ slots as a stop-gap measure for now, but I was hoping for a more permanent solution.  With the previous "Slave Gags" it hadn't been quite a problem...I've already done FNIS multiple times, and no problems were reported. I have female facial animations, mfg console, etc. that everyone else has recommended for similar problems, and I have the most recent versions of DDa and DDi as well as ZaZ and Sexlab.

 

OK! So that's what it is.  Yes, it's not clear what exactly is happening, because before the update, I never had my followers going to Mistwatch before.  It would be appreciated if you could add something to the log or a message telling us that; it really had me confused if I was having script conflicts with EFF or Death Alternative and I was going nuts trying to solve it!  My followers seem to be leaving all the time, although last night I was testing it, and only one of the left, the other stayed.  You say it's normal, so I won't sweat it!  So then, in that case; do I have to go to Mistwatch to rescue my follower? What needs to be done from that point on?

 

I see.  But before the recent update, my followers weren't forced to kneel all the time- if I set them to doing something else with the Amulet of Control from Display Model, or the ZaZ animation tester, it would stick; but if it's meant for them to be kneeling all the time, I'll leave it be.  I wonder if perhaps you can make it optional for fellow slaves to be constantly kneeling?  Just a thought.

 

Extra added note- I got enslaved by a Falmer during gameplay; and like I mentioned once earlier in the main support thread, none of the dialogue options worked. I clicked, nothing happens- none of the options at all!

 

Thank you very much for your support and the great work you keep giving us!