fapmcfap Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 This is irritating. For some reason, I can't load saves anymore without Skyrim just kinda dying on me. Tried disabling several mods, erasing all enb files, even uninstalled sexlab mods just in case it was those, nothing worked. If anyone here can look at my load order and take a crack at it, I'd appreciate it. EDIT: Almost forgot, it doesn't ctd when making a new game, however I'm very far into the game on some of these saves and would rather not start from scratch. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization.esm Wyrmstooth.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm notice board.esp ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm GeneralStores.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm MagicDuelReborn.esm SuccubusFollower.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm RaceCompatibility.esm CreatureFramework.esm SkyUI.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp Action Combat.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Differently Ebony.esp Glass Variants.esp The Dance of Death.esp Dodge Mod.esp DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp ETaC - Complete.esp tpos_ultimate_esm.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Fusax2.esp Convenient Horses.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp iHUD.esp Beards.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Headtracking.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SplashofRain.esp WetandCold.esp ArgonianMaidSkillBook.esp better embers.esp brotherhood drachen armor.esp Colonial_Templar_Coat.esp deathwing inspired alduin reloaded.esp UIExtensions.esp FNIS.esp towConversation.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 3DNPC.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp Seductress Serana.esp Rebirth Monster.esp VexsAnimalsNotMonsters.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp Undeath.esp RiftenThiefEdition.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp SoS - Civilization.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp TKcombat.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp WATER DG + DB.esp Inigo.esp SeranaDialogEdit.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Better Vampires.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp WayshrinesIFT.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Geralt.esp Oblivion.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SofiaFollower.esp WATER Plants.esp daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp Immersive Music Temples.esp Immersive Music Replacer.esp DeathHoundAstaroth.esp CanalHome.esp CanalHomeM.esp Recorder Follower Base.esp Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp NightsWatchArmorLight.esp Tundra Defense.esp kxk_apocryphahome.esp TisseFollower.esp ORM-Arvak.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp CinematicFireFX.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp better-ench-fx.esp DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp Proper Aiming.esp WKBendTime.esp Spells Cast Light.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SuccubusRaceLite.esp Lucretia.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ASLAL - Hearthfire Support.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp CWIELnFXPatch.esp ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
AlleyCa7 Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Try loading into a "fresh" save(a new save or one that isnt heavy on time played preferably indoors) then load to the save you want from there, I believe its an issue with memory iirc. Also Have you run TESVedit? it will tell you if there is a a problem with your load order.
fapmcfap Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 Couldn't even load the fresh save, so loading saves in general doesn't work I guess?
canthics Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 ^Works, though there is a more permanent solution. Don't disable enb, at least not the enboost portion. Without letting enbhost allocate memory for Skyrim, you're more likely to encounter these CTDs than not. In enblocal there are the following settings: ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false Setting this to true can cause loading crashes, especially if you are also using Sheson's/SKSE memory fix. Set it to false. DisablePreloadToVRAM=false Set this to true. This is a triage solution that disable preloading which can help you load up a save, but can cause ingame stuttering. Better yet, go on Nexus and install Crash Fixes. It's an SKSE plugin that makes some changes to memory use that apparently originated here at loverlab. Everyone's setup is a snowflake, but I can say that I had the same types of load crashes and this, along with the right enboost settings, have completely eliminated them.
fapmcfap Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 I reinstalled my enb but the enblocal doesn't have ExpandSystemMemoryX64, should I add it since it's suppose to be false anyway, or just leave it gone?
canthics Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Add it. Also make sure you've got the latest version off Boris' site. Also, http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory About as detailed an explanation you can get on what these settings do and how they might benefit you. All I would add to this is the thread options (datasyncmode, prioritymode) are worth messing around with despite what the guide says, but only if you can't resolve ctds any other way.
fapmcfap Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 Didn't work, even tried disabling every mod, and loading after making a new game, still can't load a save. Edit: Well, I'm getting tired, didn't realize what time it was, I'll try fixing this tomorrow. If I can't, probably time for a fresh install.
c0rvin Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I am having the exact same issue. Now that I finally have some more info on the matter I'll try to implement the solutions and then come back here
c0rvin Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 ^Works, though there is a more permanent solution. Don't disable enb, at least not the enboost portion. Without letting enbhost allocate memory for Skyrim, you're more likely to encounter these CTDs than not. In enblocal there are the following settings: ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false Setting this to true can cause loading crashes, especially if you are also using Sheson's/SKSE memory fix. Set it to false. DisablePreloadToVRAM=false Set this to true. This is a triage solution that disable preloading which can help you load up a save, but can cause ingame stuttering. I did that, sadly did not work. I'll try installing more Crash Fixes I guess
Molevalence Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I had this issue as well. I tried this out and I was able to salvage my save. I hope this works for you. 1. Load an older save (as long as it doesn't have CTD on save glitch, then load it)2. Create a NEW save (through pause menu)3. Type in console command player.kill--- during the death animation --- 4. Load your latest save (the one that had CTD glitch)5. Type in console command player.kill--- let the game autoloads (it will load your save from #4 above ---6. Try saving (I usually just use quicksave) Another thing worth mentioning is to use the savetool to clean up saves and remove unnecessary clutter to avoid corruption.
sativa Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 go in a vannilla interior without any npc and no follower and save.Load this save and then load your current save.
fapmcfap Posted July 9, 2016 Author Posted July 9, 2016 I think I may have solved the problem. I decided to see if I still had Mod Organizer somewhere on my pc so I could check what esp files the saves might be missing, and I found something they were suppose to be missing but still had, SkyMoMod.esp. I uninstalled SkyMoMod to replace it with ImmersiveCreatures, but NMM didn't removed the esp because it wasn't from the actual mod, it was the sexlab patch for it. I think having both the SkyMoMod sexlab esp and ImmersiveCreatures corrupted my saves, because I made a fresh save without SkyMoMod and I could load the save after saving. So, those saves are probably gone for good. Goodbye 80+ hours worth of save data.
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