Better Cities Graphics Problems

[Boronboy]

Hello everyone. I was hoping someone who is more tech savvy that I am can clear this up for me. So I recently got a new laptop with the express intention of using it for gaming, after running the specs past my cousin (who is an IT wiz by trade) he said it all looked good. Anyway it works great can play stuff like Far Cry4/GTA 5 on high settings without any problem. 
 

However whenever I try to use a mod that overhauls all the cities, Better Cities or the 2 open variety ones I get a CTD on either of the top 2 graphics settings. It works fine on Medium and below if they're the only mods turned on, but the game plays fine even on top levels settings with things like UL turned on. At first I thought it was something to change in the INI file but that hasn't made any difference.

 

Can anyone please try to explain why this is happening with these mods as I really don't understand this at all.

[gregathit]

Post your load order for starters.

 

Second, are you on a new install of oblivion?  Did you archive invalidate via bsa redirection?  We need more info on what you installed and how to actually try to help you.

[fejeena]

Can your laptop run Better cities ?

Even with a PC the frame rate goes down.

At start you have a setting menu and can disable "extra stuff" in many cities ( e.g. barrels )

 

And Oblivion is old ! Oblivion only use 512 RAM and only part of the Graphics card memory. Maybe Better cities must have more than 512 MB.

Do you use the 4GB patch ? ( the game use more than 512 MB RAM )

And you can use ENB Boost ( for ram and GPU )

 

Read my yellow Link below. Tools

 

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I have a PC ( can run Skyrim but not at highest settings, Can't run Witcher3 and Fallout4 )

I have all UL Mods  but only 4 Parts of  Better cities ( Skingrad, Leyaviin, IC harbor, IC Better Arboretum )

[Boronboy]

So when I first tried to use it, it was near enough a clean install only things on the system other than the Better cities mods where the OBSE plugins silent voice, blockhead, stutter removal  and advanced camera controls and the Better Cities files were installed using WYre Wizard and then Bossed into the assigned order. So what I have listed is a stable load order for the mods that I have installed atm along with the inactive better cities stuff. As I am setting up Oblivion in stages I have only got the UI/ Graphics/ Big Changes mods to making sure they are working.

 

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Harvest[Containers].esm

Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm

Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esm

Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

bookplacing.esm

CM Partners.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Better Cities .esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

Camping.esp

RAEVWD Cities.esp

RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

CleanQuit.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp

HouseMapMarkers.esp

Enhanced Hotkeys.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

Better Cities - House Price Patch.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

SM Combat Hide.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp

Better Cities - All Natural.esp

Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp

Better Cities - Alternative Start Arrive by Ship.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp

Think to Yourself.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Also installed is ENB and Cinematic ENB preset

 

I didn't know about the 4gb patch and all the rest of those, it would make sense then since Oblivion has that 512mb limit maybe that is why changing the ini didn't seem to help. I will download those tools and try again. Thank you for the advice so far.

[fejeena]

The RAEVWD Mods are frame killer, and without 4GB patch you should not use them.

[gregathit]

Between RAEVWD (textures that will kill your Frame rate) and CM partners (firing scripts all the time) and XL (again, textures) you are going to be killing your lappy.  What you need to keep in mind is Oblivion is an old game.  I repeat, old game.  It uses one core on your CPU.  It will bottleneck itself just due to being an old game.  You need to be very careful about what you are running mod wise.  Thinking you can play a modern game on high settings and Oblivion maxed out is not going to pan out, as you are finding out.

 

I do recommend the 4gb patch, but it will take more than that.  Keep doing what you are doing in building your game slowly and testing as you go.  If you find something killing your frame rate, be prepared to dump it and move to something else.  The good news, is there are lots of different mods for most things.

 

Holler if you get stuck.

Cheers.

[Boronboy]

Thank you guys for the advice. It is now running with all mods bar RAEVWD and my enb preset on high graphics at an okay click. And a good 45fps on normal. I will probably take out CM if I dont fall in love with a partner. 

One final question if I may be so bold do you guys thinking modifying the INI beyond the usual turning the borders of is okay or should you not even muck about with the ini memory loading settings?

[fejeena]

If you use ENB boost you must not change the Oblivion ini for better performance. And you have stutter removal. Both use their own ini.

You can change the Oblivion ini

AllowScreenShot

Disable Intro Sequence

Instant Level Up

and disable the ugly and buggy vampire changes

Think most of the above changes you can do in the WryeBash settings ( but not sure , I don't use Wrye Bash )

[gregathit]

If you do decide to change anything (ini's included) remember to make a backup!