Tag the heavy mod!

[Frozium]

So I just started a new playthrough with new mods, but the FPS have gone down to a point that I have to play without grass and TEOFIS and getting ~30FPS... In the middle of nowhere at the north coast!

I actually have less mods than previous playthroughs, but something is killing my FPS.

Here's the load order

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

hdtHighHeel.esm

AzarHair.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

BBLuxurySuite.esm

UndergroundBathhouse.esm

FNIS.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

XPMSE.esp

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

Extended UI.esp

Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp

Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp

Glowing Eyes.esp

InnovaEyes.esp

SkyUI.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

ub_cell_darkarea.esp

Naruto - Overhaul.esp

PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

MasterTrainers100.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

jutsu.esp

UchihaClan.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Cloaks.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp

ub_bbls_merge.esp

BBLSVisitors.esp

BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp

DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

FNISspells.esp

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp

Babette.esp

The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Immersive Armors for NPC's Revisited DG.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

NoLeveledItemRewards.esp

MorePP.esp

Train over 9000!!!! times.esp

Bounty Gold.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp

RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp

AchieveThat.esp

3 day respawn 1.1.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

No More Glowing Edges.esp

Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

Tribal Tattoo Overlays.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp

SGHairPackAIO.esp

VioLens.esp

HeartBreaker.esp

BBLSapachii.esp

BBLSspouse.esp

BBLSapachii_Light.esp

ub_apachii_hair.esp

ub_tapestry.esp

UchihaClan_RemoveSpellTomes.esp

SGEyebrows.esp

Serana No Hood.esp

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp

TheCoenaculiUNP.esp

BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp

Cassandra Frost Witch.esp

BBD_NereidPirate.esp

jh_people2.esp

Serana.esp

Valerica.esp

PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp

PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp

Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

BTRH_Beleval.esp

BTRH_Brelyna.esp

BTRH_Camilla.esp

BTRH_Delphine.esp

BTRH_Elisif.esp

BTRH_Frea.esp

BTRH_Ingjard.esp

BTRH_Iona.esp

BTRH_Jordis.esp

BTRH_Lisette.esp

BTRH_Lydia.esp

BTRH_Mjoll.esp

BTRH_Muiri.esp

BTRH_Rayya.esp

BTRH_Sorine.esp

BTRH_Ysolda.esp

PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp

PatchusMaximus.esp

 

NOTE: I've used Naruto Overhaul, Uchiha clan, PERMA, Immersive armors and weapons and Fantasy soundtrack project in previous playthroughs. Not to mention the lesser mods like RaceMenu. I think that the 'bad' mod could be NPC85 (JH people) or Skyrim Immersive creatures.

 

NOTE 2: I DON'T use ENB

 

Thanks for replying

 

[Ventus2111]

I don't see anything that could kill your FPS, so my questions would be:

Do you use texture mods?

Do you use ENB?

Could you provide a list of installed mods? Your load order isn't always enough. It's impossible to tell if you have texture mods installed because the majority of them doesn't have a .esp/.esm file.

[Frozium]

I don't see anything that could kill your FPS, so my questions would be:

Do you use texture mods?

Do you use ENB?

Could you provide a list of installed mods? Your load order isn't always enough. It's impossible to tell if you have texture mods installed because the majority of them doesn't have a .esp/.esm file.

I can't provide you the full list right now, but I use the Full aMidianBorn pack. Can that be problem?

[nareena]

Ehm am really no expert here but i would double check: jh_people2.esp, MorePP.esp , Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp, Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp > these i would consider as "heavy" mods. Also having 4 or 5 hair texture packs must have quite the impact on loading lol. 

 

However, the problem does not need to be mods related. Check ur Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini> if you made any changes here (drawing shadows, grass per texture, density, etc...) > these could have massive impact on FPS. Furthermore fps also greatly depends on ur choice of ENB, some enb's on my rig have a perfomance impact of 20 fps or more. Might wanna play around with other setups to see if there's any difference.

 

The best advice i can give you is: try and remember when the fps issue started> date it back and try to find mods that u installed at that time and reverse the changes, or any modifications you might have done.

 

Hope this helps

 

Regards,

 

 

[Ventus2111]

If that is the only texture mod you use, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Unless you can't even play Skyrim on ultra settings. You can try to disable it and see if it fixes the problem. Is that the only texture mod? If you have a lot of them, you could try to disable all of them.

You said you used other mods on other playthroughs, did you make any big changes to your mod list before starting this playthrough?

I guess you already did that, but in case you didn't, try to close other programs when running Skyrim.

If that doesn't help you, you could try this thing and maybe find out something.

That's all ideas I have for now, sorry.

[Frozium]

Ehm am really no expert here but i would double check: jh_people2.esp, MorePP.esp , Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp, Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp > these i would consider as "heavy" mods. Also having 4 or 5 hair texture packs must have quite the impact on loading lol. 

 

However, the problem does not need to be mods related. Check ur Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini> if you made any changes here (drawing shadows, grass per texture, density, etc...) > these could have massive impact on FPS. Furthermore fps also greatly depends on ur choice of ENB, some enb's on my rig have a perfomance impact of 20 fps or more. Might wanna play around with other setups to see if there's any difference.

 

The best advice i can give you is: try and remember when the fps issue started> date it back and try to find mods that u installed at that time and reverse the changes, or any modifications you might have done.

 

Hope this helps

 

Regards,

 

 

 

If that is the only texture mod you use, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Unless you can't even play Skyrim on ultra settings. You can try to disable it and see if it fixes the problem. Is that the only texture mod? If you have a lot of them, you could try to disable all of them.

You said you used other mods on other playthroughs, did you make any big changes to your mod list before starting this playthrough?

I guess you already did that, but in case you didn't, try to close other programs when running Skyrim.

If that doesn't help you, you could try this thing and maybe find out something.

That's all ideas I have for now, sorry.

Aside from the aMidian Born textures, I only have the Apachii hair natural retextures (performance option)

[nopseudomoi]

HDT hairs used to kill my FPS, I see you have one. Could be the cause

[Frozium]

HDT hairs used to kill my FPS, I see you have one. Could be the cause

Only one HDT Ponytail (Azar hair)

[Ventus2111]

 

 

 

Ehm am really no expert here but i would double check: jh_people2.esp, MorePP.esp , Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp, Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp > these i would consider as "heavy" mods. Also having 4 or 5 hair texture packs must have quite the impact on loading lol. 

 

However, the problem does not need to be mods related. Check ur Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini> if you made any changes here (drawing shadows, grass per texture, density, etc...) > these could have massive impact on FPS. Furthermore fps also greatly depends on ur choice of ENB, some enb's on my rig have a perfomance impact of 20 fps or more. Might wanna play around with other setups to see if there's any difference.

 

The best advice i can give you is: try and remember when the fps issue started> date it back and try to find mods that u installed at that time and reverse the changes, or any modifications you might have done.

 

Hope this helps

 

Regards,

 

 

 

If that is the only texture mod you use, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Unless you can't even play Skyrim on ultra settings. You can try to disable it and see if it fixes the problem. Is that the only texture mod? If you have a lot of them, you could try to disable all of them.

You said you used other mods on other playthroughs, did you make any big changes to your mod list before starting this playthrough?

I guess you already did that, but in case you didn't, try to close other programs when running Skyrim.

If that doesn't help you, you could try this thing and maybe find out something.

That's all ideas I have for now, sorry.

Aside from the aMidian Born textures, I only have the Apachii hair natural retextures (performance option)

 

 

 

You can also try to reset the .ini files. Go to ...\Documents\My Games\Skyrim (or where you have your .ini files) and delete Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini. After you did that, launch Skyrim via Steam. It should automatically generate new files. Close the launcher after that and try to run the game how you would run it normally.

[Teddar]

Have you got HDT Physics installed? if so what XPMSE Skeleton version are you using? I found that i had to use XPMSE3 or my framerate went south big time.

[Frozium]

Have you got HDT Physics installed? if so what XPMSE Skeleton version are you using? I found that i had to use XPMSE3 or my framerate went south big time.

I use HDT with XPMSE 3

 

 

 

 

Ehm am really no expert here but i would double check: jh_people2.esp, MorePP.esp , Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp, Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp > these i would consider as "heavy" mods. Also having 4 or 5 hair texture packs must have quite the impact on loading lol. 

 

However, the problem does not need to be mods related. Check ur Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini> if you made any changes here (drawing shadows, grass per texture, density, etc...) > these could have massive impact on FPS. Furthermore fps also greatly depends on ur choice of ENB, some enb's on my rig have a perfomance impact of 20 fps or more. Might wanna play around with other setups to see if there's any difference.

 

The best advice i can give you is: try and remember when the fps issue started> date it back and try to find mods that u installed at that time and reverse the changes, or any modifications you might have done.

 

Hope this helps

 

Regards,

 

 

 

If that is the only texture mod you use, it shouldn't be much of a problem. Unless you can't even play Skyrim on ultra settings. You can try to disable it and see if it fixes the problem. Is that the only texture mod? If you have a lot of them, you could try to disable all of them.

You said you used other mods on other playthroughs, did you make any big changes to your mod list before starting this playthrough?

I guess you already did that, but in case you didn't, try to close other programs when running Skyrim.

If that doesn't help you, you could try this thing and maybe find out something.

That's all ideas I have for now, sorry.

Aside from the aMidian Born textures, I only have the Apachii hair natural retextures (performance option)

 

 

 

You can also try to reset the .ini files. Go to ...\Documents\My Games\Skyrim (or where you have your .ini files) and delete Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini. After you did that, launch Skyrim via Steam. It should automatically generate new files. Close the launcher after that and try to run the game how you would run it normally.

 

OK, I'll try that. (Good that I made a backup when I started the modding)

[nopseudomoi]

 

HDT hairs used to kill my FPS, I see you have one. Could be the cause

Only one HDT Ponytail (Azar hair)

 

 

It doesn't matter how much different hairstyles you have installed, only the active one on your current character will take FPS. If you're using a static hairstyle it's fine, but if you're using the HDT hairstyle it make your PC lag.

I'm not saying it's the problem, but if I were you I would try to change it for a while (open console, type "showracemenu" and change your hairstyle, no need to uninstall it)

[Anatriax]

One thing:

USE ENB!!! 
Even if you DO NOT use the graphics modifications, the changes that ENB makes to the way MEMORY is handled will VASTLY improve your performance.
 

[Frozium]

One thing:

 

USE ENB!!! 

Even if you DO NOT use the graphics modifications, the changes that ENB makes to the way MEMORY is handled will VASTLY improve your performance.

 

 

 

I deleted all the aMidian Born content and Skyrim immersive creatures and everything's fine now.

[Anatriax]

 

One thing:

 

USE ENB!!! 

Even if you DO NOT use the graphics modifications, the changes that ENB makes to the way MEMORY is handled will VASTLY improve your performance.

 

Hahaha_No_Owl.jpg

 

 

I deleted all the aMidian Born content and Skyrim immersive creatures and everything's fine now.

 

 

Yea, aMidian's stuff is VERY heavy on resources, especially if you use the 2k textures. I have a decent GPU, and still only use the 1k textures for ... well ... pretty much every texture mod I use. 

 

If it's NOT 1k, I MAKE it 1k with DDSopt. 

 

Never tested Immersive Creatures. I may have to do that with my current rebuild of my guide. Thank you for bringing it up. If it has problems, I'm sure it's fixable hehe

[Frozium]

 

 

One thing:

 

USE ENB!!! 

Even if you DO NOT use the graphics modifications, the changes that ENB makes to the way MEMORY is handled will VASTLY improve your performance.

 

Hahaha_No_Owl.jpg

 

 

I deleted all the aMidian Born content and Skyrim immersive creatures and everything's fine now.

 

 

Yea, aMidian's stuff is VERY heavy on resources, especially if you use the 2k textures. I have a decent GPU, and still only use the 1k textures for ... well ... pretty much every texture mod I use. 

 

If it's NOT 1k, I MAKE it 1k with DDSopt. 

 

Never tested Immersive Creatures. I may have to do that with my current rebuild of my guide. Thank you for bringing it up. If it has problems, I'm sure it's fixable hehe

 

Thanks to you for replying to this post