gates007 Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Hello, I have searched the forum and did not did find any similar topic so I apologize if I missed this. I am having issues with Magub gro Orum's face. See screenshot. It seems to have hair taken from one of the Babes hair and face is in strange blue. No other orcs seem to have this issue. I don't even know how to start the diagnosis. Can anyone assist? Really appreciate your help. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36] 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0] 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] 04 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74] 06 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.5] 07 Lovers with PK.esm 08 CM Partners.esm 09 Knights - Revelation.esm 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.3] ++ Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.7] 0D MOBS SI.esp [Version 2.0] 0E Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.5] 0F Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0] ++ LoadingScreens.esp 10 LoadingScreensSI.esp 11 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 12 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36] 13 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36] 14 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 15 Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp [Version 2.01] 16 atmospheres.esp 17 Better Bell Sounds.esp ++ Symphony of Violence.esp 18 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp 19 ElzMoreVoice.esp 1A Storms & Sound.esp 1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36] 1C WindowLightingSystem.esp 1D AliveWaters.esp 1E AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 1F AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 20 AFK_PrayerIdles.esp [Version 1.0] 21 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 22 7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp 23 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp [Version 6.0.1] 24 Ducks and Swans.esp ++ PalePassIce.esp 25 P1DseeYouSleep.esp 26 RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.9] 27 Ravens and Seagulls.esp 28 Reznod_Mannequin.esp 29 Populated Prisons.esp [Version 1.2] 2A DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp 2B DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] 2C OblivionReloaded.esp 2D Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1] 2E Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3] 2F Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3] 30 DLCHorseArmor.esp 31 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 32 DLCOrrery.esp 33 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] ++ DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp 34 DLCVileLair.esp 35 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 36 P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp 37 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 38 DLCMehrunesRazor - 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Oblivion XP Patch.esp 72 EM_RedRoseManor.esp [Version 2.0] 73 EMRedRoseAddonCOBL.esp 74 EM_Packdonkeys.esp [Version 2.1] 75 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0] 76 Kvatch Rebuilt - Oblivion XP Patch.esp 77 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp ++ Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp 78 MTCExpandedVillages.esp ++ MTCExpandedVillages Vwalk.esp 79 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 7A Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp 7B Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp 7C DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 7D DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 7E DLCFrostcrag.esp 7F Frostcrag_LOD.esp 80 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 81 AFK_Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2.COBL] ++ DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 82 Knights.esp 83 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.6] 84 Knights - Revelation.esp ++ Knights Vwalk.esp ++ Knights - Revelation Vwalk.esp 85 EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp ** DLC_MOBS.esp [Version 2.0] 86 The Lost Spires.esp ++ The Lost Spires v14 Delayer.esp [Version 3.1] ++ The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp ++ MTCVillages-LostSpiresPatch.esp 87 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] ++ MTCEV-RoC Patch.esp 88 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] ++ LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 89 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 8A xulTheHeath.esp ++ FranMWL-TheHeath patch.esp 8B xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] 8C xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] ++ LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp 8D xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] 8E xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] 8F xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5] ++ xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp 90 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3] 91 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] 92 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] ++ ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0] 93 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 94 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] 95 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 96 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] ++ xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp 97 xulPantherRiver.esp 98 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 99 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] ++ xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp 9A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1] 9B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp [Version 2.0] 9C xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3] ++ xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp 9D xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] ++ xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp ++ ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp 9E xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.6] ++ MTCExpandedVillages-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 1.0a] 9F xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3] ++ xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp A0 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4] ++ Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0] A1 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2] A2 CurseofHircine-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0] A3 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.2] ++ xulTheEasternPeaks Vwalk.esp ++ ROC+RR Patch.esp [Version 1.0] A4 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - 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gregathit Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Use Tes4edit and look at what mods have him in it.
gates007 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks. I used TES4edit and see what else was loaded. It looks like only Oblivion character overhaul v2 was loaded and nothing else. All the orcs are fine so I am at a lost! Perhaps I am not looking it right. Any suggestion?
gregathit Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 Did you look under NPC's and find him in particular? That will tell you exactly what mods that are messing with him. If indeed it is "just" OCO2, then you need to open the esp (or esm) up and take a look at what meshes/textures he has and trace them back to the files. You may be missing something, or may have accidentally overwritten one when you installed other mods. I'm guessing there is another mod that is tangling with OCO2, but that is a gut feeling. Also, check the OCO2 page and make sure there are not any patches you might have missed. Who knows, perhaps the mod author screwed something up and made a patch for it. Cheers, Greg
gates007 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Thanks Greg for your reply. I did check NPC. Perhaps I missed something? There is no other mods loaded. All other Orcs seem to be fine and look normal. Just him. I find a mod to take off of his clothes and see if there may be a specific texture issue and it looks like his face + entire body texture has this pixelated blue effect on him. I tried to upload a screenshot from TES4Edit but the server is returning an error. I will try again later. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Edit: TES4Edit picture attached. Also I removed all clothing and the issue still exist. It does not look like it is from any clothing but actually from the skin on the body and face. It is also odd that under TES4Edit this orc does not have any hair mod (except OCO2) but you can see the pic in the prior post it has some sort of babes hair. Any help is appreciated.
gregathit Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Might be a magic effect on his armor. Try switching out his armor/clothes/rings and see if it persists.
gates007 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 Hi Greg, I have posted a screen shot of TES4Edit in my prior post. Would you mind taking a look and see if you need anything more or anything you can spot? I appreciate your help. Thanks Gates
fejeena Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Are there no changes compared to the original/Oblivion esm ? The lower part you have not posted. Skin Color values, eyes, hair. If there are changes restore the Oblivion values. ( first backup your OCO esm/esp) delete the OCO changes or drag-drop the Oblivion values in the OCO esm ( in TES4Edit ) hair, hair length, eyes, hair Color, the 3 FaceGen data (it is the face shape and also the Skin Color ) and the FNAM Unknown Then test it in game. Maybe the hair or the eyes or the Skin Color Settings are wrong in OCO. ------------------------ Don't think the clothes are the Problem. Many NPCs use the same clothes, and if they do not have the bug the clothes are fine. Ok it can be a Magic effect bug. A effect was not removed correctly.
gates007 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Posted January 16, 2016 Hello Fejeena and Greg, Thanks so much for helping me to diagnose the problem. Here's the later part of the TES3Edit Screenshots. I am not sure what I am looking for (I don't see any hair mod applied but he seem to have hair which should not have) so I am really at a lost as to what to look for. Any assistance is appreciated. Gates
fejeena Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 Have you tried to set all to vanilla ? The vanilla Version of Maqub have set no eyes and hair , so he use the defaulf eyes and hair. You see in your picture no hair is set, so he will use the race default hair. You can check it in the Orc race. There should be the new "funny" hair shown in your picture. Also all hair the race can use are in the race section. default Orc hair ( in OCO it must be your new funny Orc hair ) all vanilla Orc hair and eye So try to set Maqub to vanilla. TES4Edit In the NPC section drag the FNAM Unkown from Oblivion esm to OCO Then open the Orc race section, scroll down to all available hairs and copy the hair OrcTwoBraids [HAIR:00066A27] and past it in the Maqub NPC Then again race section and copy the eyeOrc "Orc" [EYES:0002730A] and past it in the Maqub NPC. ( ! If the hair and eyes are not in the race try some other hairs and eyes. Not the "funny" hair he has ) Now he is a vanilla Orc. Test him in game.
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