Placeholder1 Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 I finally finished modding my Oblivion with 150+ mods and surprise, surprise I'm having lots of issues actually playing the game, foremost of which is a ctd on starting a new game. The crash happens only on trying to start a new game; when I use a clean save downloaded from the net everything works fine. Any ideas? Here's my load order: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36] 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 TamagoClub.esm 06 HiyokoClub.esm 07 LoversCreature.esm 08 Chanpon.esm 09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.3] 0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.7] 0C All Natural.esp [Version 1.36] 0D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36] 0E All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36] 0F RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.9] 10 RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.9] 11 DLCHorseArmor.esp 12 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 13 DLCOrrery.esp 14 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 15 DLCVileLair.esp 16 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 17 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 18 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 19 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 1A 00 shield rings.esp 1B 1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp 1C adelina.esp 1D Alir'sArmor.esp 1E AncientGuardianRobe.esp 1F AC2 Revisited HGEC.esp 20 Black Dress.esp 21 BlessedMageKnightDress.esp 22 BlackLuster.esp 23 BreakArmor.esp [Version 1.10.f] 24 Corset Dress.esp 25 Cute Apron.esp 26 Cute Leather Dress.esp 27 Cute Summer Wears.esp 28 Dark Sweet Dress.esp 29 Dynasty.esp 2A EY_AoD.esp 2B EY_Vampirehunter.esp 2C EY_BM_Armory.esp 2D Faded Dress.esp 2E GGBDDCW.esp 2F Goth Minidress.esp 30 Haubergeon.esp 31 Hentai Compilation.esp 32 HentaiSummerFesta.esp 33 HepsCloth002-BasicWears.esp 34 Hiyoko_Store.esp 35 Immersive Weapons.esp 36 JKMDOF.esp ++ Mass Outfit Redesign.esp 37 PEDress.esp 38 PTArtifacts.esp 39 Princess line Dress.esp 3A Queensarmory.esp 3B Room Wear.esp 3C SDHeartbreaker.esp 3D Sexy Shirt.esp 3E SnakeArmor.esp 3F Sneak peek Bodysuit.esp 40 SylvanasArmorVariations.esp 41 Sweet ranger costume.esp 42 tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp 43 Tempest Battlegear.esp 44 Tepals Dress.esp 45 Underworld Armor.esp 46 Weapons Of Morrowind.esp [Version 1.0] 47 Weapons Of Morrowind - Daedric Crescent.esp 48 Witch LongDress.esp 49 WH Armor.esp 4A Yoke Armor.esp 4B Blackmarsh_Witch_HGEC_Clothing.esp 4C Bodysuit and Garter.esp 4D CuteHalloweenCostume.esp 4E HTBShopInABottle.esp 4F DLCThievesDen.esp 50 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.13] 51 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13] 52 Tona's_ModsStore.esp 53 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 54 Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp 55 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 56 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 57 DLCFrostcrag.esp 58 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 59 Knights.esp 5A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.6] ** Grass Overhaul.esp 5B Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5] 5C Better Dungeons.esp 5D HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 6.3.1] 5E HUDCompanions.esp 5F RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 60 TamagoPlayerHUD.esp [Version 2.0] 61 TamagoDischarge.esp 62 TamagoFertilityClinic.esp 63 LoversTamagoClub.esp 64 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 65 HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp 66 HiyokoGenerator.esp 67 HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp 68 TamagoSetBody.esp 69 LoversCalm.esp 6A LoversAphrodisia.esp 6B LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp 6C LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 6D LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2a] 6E LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp 6F LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 70 LoversRaperS.esp 71 HiyokoFutureDream.esp [Version y] 72 LoversImmoralSisters.esp 73 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 74 LoversDarkLessons.esp 75 LoversBitch.esp 76 LoversCreature.esp 77 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 78 LoversMagic.esp 79 LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 7A LoversSlaveTrader.esp 7B LSTBravilUnderground.esp 7C LSTaddonIn.esp 7D Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0] 7E Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp 7F MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 80 MCS extension.esp 81 Advanced Magecraft.esp 82 SetBody.esp 83 LoversJoystick.esp 84 MidasSpells.esp 85 HumantouchNPC.esp 86 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 87 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 88 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 89 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 8A Lop-ears Elf.esp 8B UVIII.esp ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36] 8C OblivionReloaded.esp 8D Bashed Patch, 0.esp 8E LoversMB2.esp 8F LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 90 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 One sure way to avoid this is to "slowly" build your game. Install 5-10 mods and then test by starting a new game. It helps you find and kill issues before they get out of hand. Since you are way beyond that point......start looking at possible conflicts and duplicates. One I was able to spot right off the bat: ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 82 SetBody.esp Duplicates like this can cause all kinds of havoc. Remove MaleBody and then you will need to rebuild your bashed patch. Look for others as well. I "think" this is also a duplicate: 89 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp I think you are only supposed to use one. Check the install instructions.
Placeholder1 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 One sure way to avoid this is to "slowly" build your game. Install 5-10 mods and then test by starting a new game. It helps you find and kill issues before they get out of hand. Since you are way beyond that point......start looking at possible conflicts and duplicates. One I was able to spot right off the bat: ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 82 SetBody.esp Duplicates like this can cause all kinds of havoc. Remove MaleBody and then you will need to rebuild your bashed patch. Look for others as well. I "think" this is also a duplicate: 89 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp I think you are only supposed to use one. Check the install instructions. Thanks for the response. I didn't know that about malebodyreplacer and setbody, but are you sure about the two x117 esps? They're both a part of mbp all in one (the instruction for it aren't great).
gregathit Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Yep. Says so here (see the very bottom of the descriptions page): http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37368/?
Placeholder1 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 Okay, well I'll try that and see how it goes. I should've steadily added mods and tested intermittently like you said, but I like to behold my foul creation in its entirety heh
gregathit Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 When you rebuild your bashed patch, make sure you have all lovers/tamago plugins unselected so they are not built into it. It breaks the scripting.
varenne Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 x117Race ENG Race.esp is actually needed (the ++ is a WB designation of a required merge) with the original x117race.esp, otherwise it will display Japanese (or Chinese) race names. You can, if you have TES4Gecko merge x117Race ENG Race.esp into the original x117race.esp and replace it, and then disable and remove x117Race ENG Race.esp altogether. That is what I did.
Placeholder1 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 I've deleted malebodyreplacerv5.esp and x117ENG.esp and, after deactivating all lovers/tamago mods, rebuilt my bashed patch. No dice. Still the exact same trouble. Now, I'm gonna try deactivating mods en masse and see what happens. Edit: Made some progress, maybe. Activating plugins a few at a time, I've found that when DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp is activated it always causes crashes on new game start. Investigation ongoing. . .
Placeholder1 Posted October 11, 2015 Author Posted October 11, 2015 I fixed it! Well, mostly. . . DaibloEF 6 in 1.esp was the culprit of all the crashing, so I got rid of it (pretty disappointing). I have a new problem now though: When I use manual mode in LAPF as required by Lovers with PK Extender I can't end animations. Orgasm is impossible. Sorry to ask for help again but does anyone have a solution? (Maybe I should post in the LAPF technical support section.)
gregathit Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Load order, load order, load order. Can't help much without seeing that. Also make sure you have set it to manual with jump key and not during rape (ie no control when being raped). Then hit the jump key to progress. Cheers, Greg
Placeholder1 Posted October 11, 2015 Author Posted October 11, 2015 Load order, load order, load order. Can't help much without seeing that. Also make sure you have set it to manual with jump key and not during rape (ie no control when being raped). Then hit the jump key to progress. Cheers, Greg Load order is same as above besides Diablo elf race, which I ditched .
gregathit Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 When you rebuilt your bashed patch, did you disable all lovers/tamago esp and esm files before? Also, start a new game to make sure it isn't something in your saved game.
Placeholder1 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 I did disable all lovers and tamago esms/esps for sure and did start a new game. Edit: Wow, it started working when I came back to my PC, for some reason. Guess I can't complain. Thanks anyway!
varenne Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 DaiabloEF 6 in 1.esp was the culprit of all the crashing Odds are you were missing resources. Try using this one: Diablo Elf 6 in 1 Big Update by SWBM, 7 May 2013.omod Location on Nexus is: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/43379/? This is one of the few .omod files I still use and it all works fine with no CTDs experienced to date. Make sure to read the OP and requirements. Last updated at 10:16, 7 May 2013Uploaded at 5:57, 6 May 2013Mod:Diablo Elf 6 in 1 Big Update---------------------------------------------WARNING:All three files (textures,meshes and esp) must be downloaded or the mod won't WORK!!Save game files requests: Alternative start by Robert Evrae---------------------------------------------Version : 1.0---------------------------------------------Date : 03.10.2013.---------------------------------------------Category : Races,Classes and Birthsigns---------------------------------------------Author:Tijana2806---------------------------------------------Requirements:Only Custom Race fix and WinRAR for extracting! ---------------------------------------------Destription: I was updating some skin mods in Diablo Elf 6 in 1 mod .. well this add newtextures , skins, hairs,... and other things . This is the big update contains:-Original mod-SksHair-NewSkins And hi rez oil Textures !!Really oil textures please read read_me file for more explanations !
Placeholder1 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 Thanks for the help vareene but seeing how Diablo Elves race is the final issue between me and playing the game I've decided to just give up on it. I'm already using the version you linked and I did install everything for sure (manually compared each mesh and texture folder), though I'm using the custom race fix included in the UOP rather than a discrete esp. I both used BOSS and made sure the load order matched the one on the MBP AIO page. In any case, I'm just gonna give up on it for now. Sorry!
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