Zodeark Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 My Oblivion is an endless fountain of bugs and I usually take care of them all, but this doesn't even have any leads around the forum I can use. I'm stumped.Every time I sit down in first person, some body part ( I'm pretty sure it's my shoulder but god only knows ) is blocking 2/3 of the screen. Not only that, I toggled flying camera while still in first person, and my body is sitting way up in the air above the seat sideways. And while it's hilarious, it's irritating and immersion breaking to say the least. I mean sitting isn't priority #1 but I tend to sit a lot. Because even in videogames I'm lazy.I tried posting at Nexus but nobody responded yet. Why did I expect any more Because all of my bugs are load-order related, I'll assume that's probably the issue here. I have somewhere around 200 mods and I run LOOT often, but I'm terrified to do so for the past few months because it screws up my load order and corrupts all of my saves somehow. More on that issue over here - http://forums.nexusm...ame-are-loaded/I also tried to delete my ini and rebuild it but that didn't work. I'm running OBSEv21 and Pluggy 125Please tell me I don't need Wyre Bash for this. I've been dodging the bullet with that for eons and so far have gotten away with it. I'm too scared to screw something up with it Help is appreciated Oh yeah and here's my load order if this helps. Oblivion.esmHiyokoClub.esmBreakUndies.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmCobl Main.esmGlobalSettingsInterface.esmLovers with PK.esmLoversCreature.esmBeautiful People 2ch-Ed.esmx117race.esmChanpon.esmTamrielTravellers.esmTamagoClub.esmLoversCalm.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOPS Additional Changes.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espKnights.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espAL_AuroranBattleSteed.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.espautosavertest.espBasic Primary Needs.espDiabloEF 6 in 1.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.espActive_Inventory_Spell_1.2.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.espCobl Silent Equip Misc.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.espRealistic Hatred.espx117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.espSkyrimized Waters HD - SI Addon.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.espLoversEncounter.espHiyokoFutureDream.espLoadingScreens.espBrighter_Torches.espDZ_Auto_Harvest.espElsweyrAnequina.espshinyFollowMe.espElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.espLovers with PK.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espHAZeatanimations.espLoversTamagoClub.espHMTotalRecall.espHorseJumpFixer.espNo psychic guards v1.2.espLop-ears Elf.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.espLoversBed.espNatural_Weather_non-HDR+Darker_Nights_2.1.2_bugfree.espLoversIdleAnimsPriority.espLoversAnimObjectsPriority.espSetBody.espMMDrink100Potions.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espTamagoSetBody.espRealisticForceHigh.espRMDailyIncomeV2.espTamagoDischarge.espUnofficial Elsweyr Anequina Patch.espSounds of Cyrodiil.espAliveWaters.espFish! - v1.1.esphilarity_121.espYoke Armor.espx117Race ENG Race.espHiyokoGenerator.espx117race.espLop-ears Elf_mini.espxuldarkforest.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espJM's Bar Fights.espCobl Glue.espMadCompanionshipSpells.espMCS extension.espSalmo the Baker, Cobl.espTona's_ModsStore.espLoversBitch.espLoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.espIWR-Lights.espLoversVoiceSSPplus.espBlack Dress.espFaded Dress.espFunny Halloween Outfits.espOvercoat and Onepiace.espIWR-Windows.espSMOKING CITYS.espCobl Si.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espmodernizedcalender.espSkyrimized Water HD eng.espMaigrets Pet Fox.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.espCobl Tweaks.espPrincess line Dress.espRoom Wear.espStand up collar Dress.espSummer Onepiece.espSwimming Costume.espTight Minidress.espSlof's Dogs.espCheydinhal Petshop.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espElves Of Lineage II.espSlof's Horses Base.esp1em_Vilja.espZira's Horse Stable.esp1em_Vilja_Bruse_Pony.espAliveWaters - Koi Addon.espWasabi the Mouse.espDangerous Waters.espApachii_Goddess_Store.espMidasSpells.espBeautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.espPopulated Prisons.espLoversSlaveTrader.espLSTBravilUnderground.espIWR-Shutters.espGiants.espLoversJoburg.espFarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.espDJS_Realistic_Creatures.espChocolate Elves.espZira's Horse Modpack - Heavy Legion Horses.espAsharasSirensAndTritons.espLoversSetScale.espLSTaddonInH.espAliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.espHorse Management.espQQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.espZira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.espZira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.espPersonalPackGuars.espLoversCreature.espAncientTowers.espImperial Furniture Renovated.espZira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.espem_packrideponies1.espLadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.espEM_FarmAnimals1.espZira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.espBenjamin the Donkey - pimped up version.espDAWoolyWarMammothMount.espLobo_the_Wolf_v101.espEM_Packdonkeys.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full.espTamrielTravellersItemsVendor.espTamrielTravellersItemsCobl.espShiveringIsleTravellers.espShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.espFantasy Mod.espMD_Saddle_Bags+Accessories_v2.espHorseCommands.espMD_FasterHorseTurning.espEVE_KhajiitFix.espEVE_KnightsoftheNine.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
Nepro Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 Don't use LOOT use BOSS instead. LOOT is still in its infancy. Your load order is a mess. I am amazed your game don't CTD on startup. Fix the load order with BOSS. It is not easy to screw something up with Wrye Bash. You better get to learn how to use Wrye Bash if you wanna play more than 20 mods at the same time. You will do yourself a favor by learning to use Wrye Bash. Your first person bug is likely related to incorrect skeleton.
Vaelorian Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 Wrye Bash is perfectly safe as long as you don't use some of it's more destructive functions (such as removing a master from a mod). If you tried Wrye Bash you would've found it's actually very helpful, if nothing else than as a save manager. However, no, I don't think you'll need Wrye for this particular problem. This looks like one of two things: either a skeleton issue (as Nepro said) or an issue with that specific chair. Try to find a different chair to see if the issue persists or not. If it doesn't, you'll want to remove the chair models from your oblivion data folder. If it does, reinstalling whatever skeleton you were using (which should be the LAPF skeleton as I'm seeing Lovers mods in your load order) should fix the problem.
Zodeark Posted September 3, 2014 Author Posted September 3, 2014 Thank you. It's all chairs, so I'd assume it's skeleton related. I was using Coronerras skeleton but when I use lovers mods with it, my butt gets the infinity stretch bug so I installed the controllable skeleton mod. So now they both cause me issues Great.Which skeleton should I install then?
fejeena Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 You use LAPF ! So you need the LAPF Skeleton or you will have butt and penis stretching. There is a LAPF install instuction: First install Growlf's Universal skeleton: http://oblivion.nexu...om/mods/37596/? The controllable one , not the total controllable Version ) Then install LAPF ( or only the LAPF Skeleton so you must not install Lovers Creatures again) NOTE: You will be overwritting a portion of this when you install LAPF so don't panic. Then you have the Growlf's Skeleton in the data\meshes\charaters\ _1stPerson Folder, and the 2 LAPF skeletons in the data\meshes\charaters\_male Folder.
Vaelorian Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 ... My previous post specified exactly which skeleton you should have installed. Specifically, the last sentence contained mention of it by name. If you didn't understand it, perhaps fejeena's post will help clarify things for you. If it doesn't... Well, let's not dwell on that.
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