Pixie-K Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 ....and I have no idea why. My load order/mod list has not changed in any way, and it is affecting ALL save files for that character only, except for an OLD lv 4. Is there some Oblivion equivalent of papyrus to give me some clue as to what is causing the CTD? Here's my load order, as is customary. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Lovers with PK.esm 02 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 03 LoversCreature.esm 04 x117race.esm 05 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 06 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp 07 BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 08 LoversCreature.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ FunnySkillDescs.esp 09 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v4a] 0A LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp ++ Friendly Potion.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp 0B Alluring Wine Bottles.esp 0C zzEstrus.esp ** HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 0D Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp 0E HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 0F Knights.esp 10 HentaiMania2.esp 11 MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp 12 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 13 DLCThievesDen.esp 14 DLCFrostcrag.esp 15 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 16 DLCVileLair.esp 17 Tenue de la reine du sang.esp ** ahtata dremora.esp 18 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 19 LoversBitch.esp ** Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp 1A CCC.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 1B LoversMB2.esp 1C 1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp 1D LoversRaperS.esp 1E NoEncumberance.esp 1F SetEssentialActors.esp 20 Chocolate Elves.esp 21 SIHydroClarity.esp 22 Slof's Boners! v5.esp 23 Trade and Commerce.esp 24 DLCSpellTomes.esp 25 DMwardropemerged.esp 26 DLCHorseArmor.esp 27 DLCOrrery.esp 28 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 29 BlackLuster.esp 2A AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp 2B Forbidden.esp 2C LithiansNatureOfTheBeastModBeta.esp 2D LoversMagic.esp 2E R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp 2F LoversSlaveTrader.esp 30 LSTBravilUnderground.esp 31 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] 32 LSTaddonoutH.esp 33 Real_Mannequin.esp 34 Vampire Race Reloaded.esp ** VA_BetterGold.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 35 DianoArmor2.esp 36 SetBody.esp 37 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Before anyone says it, Yes I have used Tes4Edit to clean dirty mods, and yes I have used Wrye Bash to check for missing masters. The style of CTD has a "missing master" feel to it though, so idk... And to describe the problem in more detail, the CTD happens during the initial savegame load, during the loading screen. Sometimes the crash happens after a couple seconds, sometimes the load bar makes it nearly to the end. It never finishes loading though.
LexTalionis Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 I have many saves and when that happens from time to time...I load a save with minimal mods that is indoors...then I try loading the big bloated favorite save ingame.
Pixie-K Posted August 20, 2014 Author Posted August 20, 2014 I tried that too, I even did the COC Testinghall and loaded the save from there. I did fix it though, and to those wondering how I did it... Open Wrye Bash, go to the SAVES tab. Right click the save file in question, and select LOAD MASTERS. Then REMOVE BLOAT, and any other utilities you think may be needed. After that, my save loaded fine and I immediately saved it onto a new slot, moved away from the area to a small interior, and made another new save, just in case. The save file now works just great
QBB Posted August 21, 2014 Posted August 21, 2014 Is your load order that way for some reason? It seems to be vastly different from what I have and what I have is what others recommend.
fejeena Posted August 21, 2014 Posted August 21, 2014 It is a Load with no order It amazes me that Lovers works, or the other mods. Even the DLCs are not in Order. Morrowind, Oblivion and Skrim are very load order sensitive. Seems he never heard of BOSS or the Lovers load order. But he has not so many mods, and if the game works.... Many years ago I also had only 50 Mods and could play without a Load order, but then I wanted to add one new Mod and placed it at the end of the "Load orde", in the middle, at the top (CTD,CTD,CTD) Then I discovered the "mysterious" load order. DLC and other Mods load order: OBlivion.esm and other esm _______________________ Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp (first esp after the esm, or second if you use Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp) -------------------------------- Mods like Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael, Alive Waters, HotKey Mods, more Map marker(Landmarks and Wells) ---------------------------------DLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.esp ---------------------------- MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Items. e.g. Alluring Potion Bottles, ..... Armor and clothes Mods ----------------------------DLCThievesDen.esp -------------------------------- Quest Mods --------------------------DLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCFrostcrag.espKnights.esp ------------------------- Lovers Mods ------------------------- Race , companion Mods, Beautiful People, CCC.esp ------------ Always the last Mods in your Load order ( if you have them) LoversMB2.espLovers3dorgasmMB2.espLoversIdleAnimsPriority.espLovers3dorgasm.espLoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp --------------------------------- Patches always directly after the Mod which they patch. Lovers load order here in the Spoiler http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ BOSS http://boss-developers.github.io/
QBB Posted August 21, 2014 Posted August 21, 2014 I've always adhered to the load order specifications recommended by each of the authors whose mods I downloaded so I can't say I've ever really had any CTD problems with Oblivion.* Anyway, maybe I'm just being too pragmatic and this is a wake up call to start doing things my own way. I'll go put my Oblivion.esm below my bashed patch and merge all my "NoMerge" plugins! * Well, except while using the "Construction Set" to duplicate a thousand Daedra warriors and pretend to be playing "TES Total War".
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