My absolute favorite character won't load (CTD)

[Pixie-K]

....and I have no idea why. My load order/mod list has not changed in any way, and it is affecting ALL save files for that character only, except for an OLD lv 4. Is there some Oblivion equivalent of papyrus to give me some clue as to what is causing the CTD?

 

Here's my load order, as is customary.

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Lovers with PK.esm
02  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
03  LoversCreature.esm
04  x117race.esm
05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
06  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
07  BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
08  LoversCreature.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  FunnySkillDescs.esp
09  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v4a]
0A  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
++  Friendly Potion.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
0B  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
0C  zzEstrus.esp
**  HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
0D  Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
0E  HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
0F  Knights.esp
10  HentaiMania2.esp
11  MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp
12  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
13  DLCThievesDen.esp
14  DLCFrostcrag.esp
15  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
16  DLCVileLair.esp
17  Tenue de la reine du sang.esp
**  ahtata dremora.esp
18  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
19  LoversBitch.esp
**  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
1A  CCC.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
1B  LoversMB2.esp
1C  1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp
1D  LoversRaperS.esp
1E  NoEncumberance.esp
1F  SetEssentialActors.esp
20  Chocolate Elves.esp
21  SIHydroClarity.esp
22  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
23  Trade and Commerce.esp
24  DLCSpellTomes.esp
25  DMwardropemerged.esp
26  DLCHorseArmor.esp
27  DLCOrrery.esp
28  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
29  BlackLuster.esp
2A  AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp
2B  Forbidden.esp
2C  LithiansNatureOfTheBeastModBeta.esp
2D  LoversMagic.esp
2E  R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
2F  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
30  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
31  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
32  LSTaddonoutH.esp
33  Real_Mannequin.esp
34  Vampire Race Reloaded.esp
**  VA_BetterGold.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
35  DianoArmor2.esp
36  SetBody.esp
37  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Before anyone says it, Yes I have used Tes4Edit to clean dirty mods, and yes I have used Wrye Bash to check for missing masters. The style of CTD has a "missing master" feel to it though, so idk...

 

  And to describe the problem in more detail, the CTD happens during the initial savegame load, during the loading screen. Sometimes the crash happens after a couple seconds, sometimes the load bar makes it nearly to the end. It never finishes loading though.

[LexTalionis]

I have many saves and when that happens from time to time...I load a save with minimal mods that is indoors...then I try loading the big bloated favorite save ingame.

[Pixie-K]

I tried that too, I even did the COC Testinghall and loaded the save from there.

 

I did fix it though, and to those wondering how I did it...

 

Open Wrye Bash, go to the SAVES tab. Right click the save file in question, and select LOAD MASTERS. Then REMOVE BLOAT, and any other utilities you think may be needed. After that, my save loaded fine and I immediately saved it onto a new slot, moved away from the area to a small interior, and made another new save, just in case. The save file now works just great

[QBB]

Is your load order that way for some reason? It seems to be vastly different from what I have and what I have is what others recommend.

[fejeena]

It is a Load with no order

It amazes me that Lovers works, or the other mods. Even the DLCs are not in Order. Morrowind, Oblivion and Skrim are very load order sensitive.

Seems he never heard of BOSS or the Lovers load order.

But he has not so many mods, and if the game works....

Many years ago I also had only 50 Mods and could play without a Load order, but then I wanted to add one new Mod and placed it at the end of the "Load orde", in the middle, at the top (CTD,CTD,CTD) Then I discovered the "mysterious" load order.

 

DLC and other Mods load order:

OBlivion.esm

and other esm

_______________________

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp (first esp after the esm, or second if you use Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp)

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Mods like Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael, Alive Waters, HotKey Mods, more Map marker(Landmarks and Wells)

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DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp

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MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

Items. e.g. Alluring Potion Bottles, .....

Armor and clothes Mods

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DLCThievesDen.esp

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Quest Mods

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DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp

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Lovers Mods

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 Race , companion Mods, Beautiful People, CCC.esp

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Always the last Mods in your Load order ( if you have them)

LoversMB2.esp
Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
Lovers3dorgasm.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

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Patches always directly after the Mod which they patch.

 

Lovers load order here in the Spoiler http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/

BOSS http://boss-developers.github.io/

 

[QBB]

I've always adhered to the load order specifications recommended by each of the authors whose mods I downloaded so I can't say I've ever really had any CTD problems with Oblivion.* Anyway, maybe I'm just being too pragmatic and this is a wake up call to start doing things my own way. I'll go put my Oblivion.esm below my bashed patch and merge all my "NoMerge" plugins!

 

* Well, except while using the "Construction Set" to duplicate a thousand Daedra warriors and pretend to be playing "TES Total War".