Kamen Rider Kuuga Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Ever since I started using Lovers with PK, I've had males set to remove their clothing. Up until maybe a week or so ago, it's always worked well... and then, all of a sudden, I've had instances where the game would crash when starting sex. I solved this problem with setting clothing to not come off, but today I found that a recent save game I made crashed whenever I took my armor off in my equipment menu, along with trying to remove it during sex. The armor in question is an ebony armor set found on a respawning NPC (female Argonian) in the drug store of the slaver town under Bravil created via Lovers Slave Trade. I assume that this is a standard set of ebony armor, given that there are no enchantments on it; the only reason I use it is because it's a very early source of ebony equipment. I've been using BOSS to set my load order so as to minimize errors, but I'm starting to get sick of losing save games; is this an issue with the armor? The mod? Am I just out of luck and should start removing equipment before any sex act?
Ingun Black-Briar Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Ever since I started using Lovers with PK' date=' I've had males set to remove their clothing. Up until maybe a week or so ago, it's always worked well... and then, all of a sudden, I've had instances where the game would crash when starting sex. I solved this problem with setting clothing to not come off, but today I found that a recent save game I made crashed whenever I took my armor off in my equipment menu, along with trying to remove it during sex. The armor in question is an ebony armor set found on a respawning NPC (female Argonian) in the drug store of the slaver town under Bravil created via Lovers Slave Trade. I assume that this is a standard set of ebony armor, given that there are no enchantments on it; the only reason I use it is because it's a very early source of ebony equipment. I've been using BOSS to set my load order so as to minimize errors, but I'm starting to get sick of losing save games; is this an issue with the armor? The mod? Am I just out of luck and should start removing equipment before any sex act? [/quote'] Hey! It's pretty difficult to tell what exactly causes this but my bet's on a mesh. Can you provide further info, please? Does it crash on male / female chars? Does it crash trying to apply boners to a char? Do you use body replacers? Don't worry, I am certain this can easily be fixed, it's likely just a missing mesh or wrong skeleton or something similar, so don't fret.
Kamen Rider Kuuga Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 As far as I can tell, this ONLY happens when MY character is involved in sex that causes him to remove his armor. Everybody else is fine with removing their clothing/armor, just not MY character. Compounding this, when I started a new game I could freely remove and equip armor without any crashes AND have sex with armor being removed. But anyway, I'm using Robert's Male Body Replacer, which again, I don't have any issues with when it comes to my new game; I can freely equip and unequip whatever I please and the game happily does so without any crashing. HOWEVER, this has happened before; in a previous save that I lost due to another issue, the game decided all of a sudden that it would crash during sex when it came to armor removal, again, based on my own character. It almost seems like the game is punishing me for trying to engage in sex. It'll work just fine and dandy for a while, then all of a sudden get a bug up its ass and crash when trying to remove clothing. Yet when I start a new game everything is fine... until again, the game gets a bug up its ass.
Ingun Black-Briar Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 As far as I can tell' date=' this ONLY happens when MY character is involved in sex that causes him to remove his armor. Everybody else is fine with removing their clothing/armor, just not MY character. Compounding this, when I started a new game I could freely remove and equip armor without any crashes AND have sex with armor being removed. But anyway, I'm using Robert's Male Body Replacer, which again, I don't have any issues with when it comes to my new game; I can freely equip and unequip whatever I please and the game happily does so without any crashing. HOWEVER, this has happened before; in a previous save that I lost due to another issue, the game decided all of a sudden that it would crash during sex when it came to armor removal, again, based on my own character. It almost seems like the game is punishing me for trying to engage in sex. It'll work just fine and dandy for a while, then all of a sudden get a bug up its ass and crash when trying to remove clothing. Yet when I start a new game everything is fine... until again, the game gets a bug up its ass. [/quote'] Okay, that *is* weird. May be a mod conflict, though, or a buggy mod that poisons your game after a while. Care to post your mod order?
Kamen Rider Kuuga Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 Here's what BOSS gives me; Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm CM Partners.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm x117race.esm Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp personality_idles2.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp MaleBodyReplacer.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp HentaiSchoolGirlCollection.esp Slof's Boners! v5.esp SPB Oppai Sensei.esp superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp DMRA Stock Armor Skimpy.esp DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DMwardropemerged.esp Abriael_Human.esp Trashdog's SPB Heavy AB Shop.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversLight.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp SetBody.esp exhDual_Wield_Complete.esp SW01.esp 77_Umpa_Animation.esp shinyEmotions.esp Slof's Sexy Anims.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp CM Partners.esp CuteElf11.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp Desuchan's Dolls.esp DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp Chocolate Elves.esp Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp CM Partners NPC NE.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Partners Friska.esp cmChocolates.esp CM Companion Jessica Alba.esp CM_Kailinda.esp CM Partner Kim Kardashian.esp KT_CustomRaceFix.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp And then there's the Unrecognised Plugins; CMKawaPartners.esp TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp ANBRedNinja.esp BPuppetEC.esp slinky kunoichi.esp YodoSiren.esp LoversBiko.esp LoversSTVictims.esp TACMTifaLovehart.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversNiche.esp Bridal_clothes.esp PrincessCarry.esp
gregathit Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Baconminion, you need to post your actual load order either using OBMM (hit import/export, then view load order and then copy it and paste it here) or via wrye bash. As you are no doubt aware load order is critical with regards to oblivion and mods! The lovers mods need to be down toward the bottom of your load order to make sure they are not overridden by others. BOSS puts them up high in your LO which can cause issues. BOSS is great for most mods but terrible for lovers. I am guessing that you are using the AIO 2.8 OMOD and even if you aren't you should see the proposed load order that they have (see the tech assistance spoiler then example load order): http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2810
Kamen Rider Kuuga Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 Well, here's what it is from OBMM, but it looks exactly like what I got from BOSS; Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm CM Partners.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm x117race.esm Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp personality_idles2.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp MaleBodyReplacer.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp HentaiSchoolGirlCollection.esp Slof's Boners! v5.esp SPB Oppai Sensei.esp superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp DMRA Stock Armor Skimpy.esp DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DMwardropemerged.esp Abriael_Human.esp Trashdog's SPB Heavy AB Shop.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversLight.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp SetBody.esp exhDual_Wield_Complete.esp SW01.esp 77_Umpa_Animation.esp shinyEmotions.esp Slof's Sexy Anims.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp CM Partners.esp CuteElf11.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp DesuChan's Dolls.esp DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp Chocolate Elves.esp Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp CM Partners NPC NE.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Partners Friska.esp cmChocolates.esp CM Companion Jessica Alba.esp CM_Kailinda.esp CM Partner Kim Kardashian.esp KT_CustomRaceFix.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp CMKawaPartners.esp TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp ANBRedNinja.esp BPuppetEC.esp slinky kunoichi.esp YodoSiren.esp LoversBiko.esp LoversSTVictims.esp TACMTifaLovehart.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversNiche.esp Bridal_clothes.esp PrincessCarry.esp EDIT: Here's my revised load order based on the OMOD link you posted. Hopefully I didn't break it further... Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm CM Partners.esm Toaster Says Share v3.esm x117race.esm Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp personality_idles2.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp MaleBodyReplacer.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp HentaiSchoolGirlCollection.esp Slof's Boners! v5.esp SPB Oppai Sensei.esp superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp DMRA Stock Armor Skimpy.esp DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DMwardropemerged.esp Abriael_Human.esp Trashdog's SPB Heavy AB Shop.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp exhDual_Wield_Complete.esp SW01.esp 77_Umpa_Animation.esp shinyEmotions.esp Slof's Sexy Anims.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp CM Partners.esp CuteElf11.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp DesuChan's Dolls.esp DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp Chocolate Elves.esp Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp CM Partners NPC NE.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Partners Friska.esp cmChocolates.esp CM Companion Jessica Alba.esp CM_Kailinda.esp CM Partner Kim Kardashian.esp KT_CustomRaceFix.esp CMKawaPartners.esp TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp ANBRedNinja.esp BPuppetEC.esp slinky kunoichi.esp YodoSiren.esp TACMTifaLovehart.esp Bridal_clothes.esp PrincessCarry.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp SetBody.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversNiche.esp LoversBiko.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversSTVictims.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversLight.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 BaconMinion, the last LO looks much better. Try starting a new game and see if you are working correctly.
Lilalu Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Don't know, if that is related to your problem, but I had a problem with ctd when removing my toons clothes, too, when wearing a certain outfit. The armor in question is lethal majesty and I was heartbroken, bacause I love that armor. But finally found the solution: The problem was the 1st person skeleton. Lethal majesty uses bones my (growlf) didn't have. After changing to coronerras 1st person skeleton all is fine now.
EvenstarGW Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 As Lilalu suggests, it might not be the actual undressing that is the culprit if it only happens for you. But if it is, then it could be caused by a hidden token that is force-equipped on you (noremove flag). This happens with bound weapons as well, for instance. If an npc has a bound weapon and you ty to access their inventory through non-vanilla means, instant CTD as it can't remove the bound weapon. If you can't find what token it might be, you could try FormID finder, to show a list of all items currently equipped on the player including hidden, nonplayable stuff.
Uriel Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Ok, i've got a very similar problem now. I crash randomly when removing armor/clothes from NPC's. This started from the crashes at the sex start, then i started diagnosing the problem and found that i RANDOMLY crash when using removeallitems from NPC's. Randomly means i made a lot of test runs with the same NPC's, and found no relation at all. There were 5 npc's in the room, and crash can happen on the first one(right after load), and on the last one. Females also crash the same way. Any ideas? edit: i tried newgame already. edit2: i disabled every lovers plugin and it's still happening. I just run around Bruma stripping everyone on sight. edit3: for testing purposes ofcourse!
gregathit Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 It could be occurring due to a weapon/clothing/armor or other mesh that has no world model. I have seen a couple of mods that were sloppily put together that either didn't have a world model or one that was not included in the mod. Might be worth noting to check out the inventories prior to striping folks to see if there is anything in common either on a particular item or from a particular mod.
Uriel Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 I doubt that's the problem here. Crash happens randomly, i can "removeallitems" an NPC perfectly fine one time, and crash on the same NPC next time. Digging...
Uriel Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 I just deleted my tweaked oblivion.ini and started from vanilla one. Crashes are gone! Currently trying to find a parameter inside the ini that causes this.
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