Mysterious Armbinder ctd with O3D bondage furniture mod, please post your load orders

[xboronx]

Mud manages to run DD and O3D bondage furniture mod together, but i get a ctd whenever i try to equip the armbinder.

Originally from the deviously helpless thread:

 

 

Yeah, I've tried putting on the armbinder manually and having it forced on me by Live A Deviant Life. No crashing.

 

Perhaps there's a third cause somewhere in play making DD and the furniture mod not play nice together?

 

Just installed it again, CTD upon equipping the armbinder.

I just need xo3dBF-test-2014-004-fix2 or anything else from previous versions?

 

Here's my modlist:

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
SharedSeranaDialogue.esm=1
Vampire Slavers Den v2.0.esm=1
Evil Lair of Hydra.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
AliciaPainSlutCore.esm=1
HentaiPregnancy.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
BBLuxurySuite.esm=1
SummerWear.esm=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
DeviousRegulations.esp=1
SexLab STDs.esp=1
StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp=1
Marriable Serana.esp=1
Marriable Serana HF.esp=1
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp=1
R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1
Latex Armor.esp=1
BTRH_Arielle.esp=1
BTRH_Tullia.esp=1
BTRH_Nei.esp=1
BTRH_Elhaym.esp=1
BTRH_Sonja.esp=1
BTRH_Sirisha.esp=1
Strap.esp=1
Zipsuit.esp=1
WOME_Eowyn.esp=1
WOME_Arwen.esp=1
WOME_Galadriel.esp=1
Zt_followers.esp=1
Misha.esp=1
Michelle.esp=1
Amanda.esp=1
Lyla.esp=1
LC2013.esp=1
BTRH_Tomoe.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Follower Limit Increased.esp=1
HentaiCreatures.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
DeadlyMonsters.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
RealisticRoomRental.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp=1
SexLab Enchantress.esp=1
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1
AliciaPainSlut.esp=1
PuppetMaster.esp=1
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=1
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1
AngrimApprentice.esp=1
Bondage Harness Gag.esp=1
Devious Deviants.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
Captured Dreams.esp=1
Devious Devices - For the Masses II - DB.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
TS_Whipcane.esp=1
mayatola UFF.esp=1
AsharaErinFollower.esp=1
mayatola ADEC.esp=1
rk_Followers UNP.esp=1
LunariWarriors.esp=1
DanarielStormbow.esp=1
Chaconne.esp=1
Kate.esp=1
Viconia.esp=1
BBLSVisitors.esp=1
BBLSspouse.esp=1
BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp=1
BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
SexLab_MindControl.esp=1
SexLab Submit.esp=1
SexLab Submit Serana.esp=1
Apropos.esp=1
SummerWearSA.esp=1
BBLSMotseerOutfits.esp=1
SummerWearBBLS.esp=1
mmpieceringparts1.esp=1
MilkModNEW.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1
SpousesEnhanced.esp=1
SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp=1
SexLabGuild.esp=1
sexlab_WearAndTear.esp=1
zarias_restraints.esp=1
Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp=1
TS_SlickArmour.esp=1
TS_FetishWardrobe.esp=1
TS_FetishWardrobe_Uncut.esp=1
TS_RogueOutfits2.esp=1
Submit belt.esp=1
mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1
YCrimeOverhaul.esp=1
sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1
SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1
ShellBondage - Bombshell.esp=1
Karita Ivarsdotter.esp=1
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1
Populated Forts Towers Places.esp=1
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp=1
NewmCBBELO1.esp=1
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp=1
SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp=1
PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp=1
hydra_slavegirls_804.esp=1
DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1
SexLab Solutions v2.esp=1

 

 

Would be nice if you post your modlist, then i could compare them and maybe find out the conflicting mod. Thanks in advance

 

 

 

 

If you wish, but I've got 250 active plugins in my load order, and more if you count the miscellaneous equipment mods and whatnot in my merged esp and bashed patch:

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Falskaar.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm=1

actorEvents.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

ElinRace.esm=1

ElinRaceTaint.esm=1

ElinRace - ApachiiHair.esm=1

fox_shop.esm=1

moonpath.esm=1

SkyMoMod.esm=1

Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm=1

WinterholdDestruction.esm=0

XFLMain.esm=1

xvisionchildren.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Wyrmstooth.esp=1

ElinRace__NewHair.esm=1

AK- Buyable Paintings and Pictures.esp=1

ElinRace.esp=1

SexLab.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

Matera.esp=0

phiNoFF.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

Orc&ElfFix4TBBP.esp=1

USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

SplashofRain.esp=1

Personalized Music Merged.esp=1

AOS.esp=1

ElinVoiceEng.esp=1

PM_PlayerHomeMusic_NoVanilla_DB_v1.0.esp=0

TouringCarriages.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp=1

Painting In Skyrim.esp=1

AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp=1

AMatterOfTime.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp=1

Birdsofskyrim.esp=1

BOS_Cluck_Fix.esp=1

Catsofskyrim.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

Dead Body Collision.esp=1

Dogsofskyrim.esp=1

HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp=1

Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp=1

LoversComfort.esp=1

LoversVictim.esp=1

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1

MLLY - MAIN HF.esp=1

MLLY - FEMALE HF.esp=1

more plants all extra.esp=1

PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp=1

PuppetMaster.esp=1

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

ShootingStars.esp=1

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp=1

Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1

SkyTweak.esp=1

vAutosaveManager.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

TakeNotes.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1

SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp=1

FoxMerged.esp=1

HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp=1

TG.esp=1

Crafting300 - No Perk Tree Edits.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp=1

HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

DeadlyMonsters.esp=0

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp=1

SkyRe_Main.esp=1

SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp=1

SkyRe_Combat.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp=1

SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp=1

UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

AOS_SkyRe Patch.esp=1

AOS_SkyRe-AFTER Patch.esp=1

SkyRe Destruction Scaling.esp=1

AdalMatar.esp=1

AgentOfRighteousMight.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp=1

DragonmournInn.esp=1

Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp=1

LakeViewManorUpgrades.esp=1

moonpath_questdata.esp=1

MzarkWonders.esp=1

o3dDeviceBondage.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp=1

TheDomain.esp=1

TheFrontier.esp=1

Weightless Soulgems and Fragments.esp=1

zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nounderwear.esp=1

AchieveThat.esp=1

Civil War Overhaul.esp=1

AOS_CWO Patch.esp=1

FalskaarDawnguard.esp=1

GrassOnSteroids_Short.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

NMFWLM_dawnguard.esp=1

NMFWLM_hearthfire.esp=1

NMFWLM_dragonborn.esp=1

PeacefulMudcrabs.esp=1

PotemaCrashFix.esp=1

Rebirth Monster.esp=1

RV markers.esp=1

SexLab Solutions.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1

xvisionchildren - hearthfire.esp=1

EstrusChaurus.esp=1

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp=0

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp=1

Helgen Reborn.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1

ELFX - Moonpath.esp=1

ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp=1

ELFXEnhancer.esp=1

sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

RND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp=1

RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1

RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1

RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp=1

FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp=1

Shaydows WereWolf Replacer OVERHAUL.esp=1

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

Apocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp=1

GriptzionTeleportMenuSpell_DLC.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

SummonFollowers.esp=1

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1

MLAdventures.esp=1

ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp=0

chfshImbuedSword.esp=1

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1

Realistic crime report radius.esp=1

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp=1

AOS_DCOd Patch.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1

zzzSXP.esp=0

FemaleCityGuardsAndSoldiers.esp=1

_NewHair.esp=1

ElinRace__zzSimsHair.esp=1

ElinRace_Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp=1

RenHair.esp=1

OhmesRaht.esp=0

OhmesRahtKhajiit.esp=0

Improved Fish BASIC - RND Support.esp=0

Dovahbit.esp=0

Dovahbit2.esp=0

BetterQuestObjectives-XFLPatch.esp=0

XFLDialogue.esp=1

XFLPlugins.esp=1

Companion_Ari.esp=1

Companion_Ria.esp=1

modteacher3.esp=1

DLCBabes.esp=1

NPCO_Dawnguard_V1_.esp=0

NPC_Overhaul_1_3_.esp=1

Follower_Addon_V2_.esp=1

SBF All In One + DLC.esp=1

Sara.esp=0

SRIlta.esp=0

SRKirsikka.esp=1

SRMaisa.esp=0

Devious Deviants.esp=1

DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1

hydra_slavegirls.esp=1

NoNakedComments.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp=1

MBWSFollowerAll.esp=1

MBWS Reija.esp=1

MBWS Liina.esp=1

MBWS Lydia.esp=1

MBWS Jordis.esp=1

MBWSSeranaR_CBBE.esp=1

MBWSFrea.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1

ElinRace - Use Monli custom BBP Body.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

ForgottenMagic_Redone_SkyRePatch.esp=1

Facelight.esp=1

SkyRe_Races.esp=1

Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp=1

RealShelter.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

WATER DG.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

WATER Falskaar.esp=1

ElinRace__NewHair.esp=1

Yeria and Vivi Elin.esp=1

xvisionchildren - uskp patch.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp=1

Equipment Mods Merged.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=0

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=0

No Hood.esp=0

LFox Pickpocketing Chance Caps at 100.esp=0

wtbs.esp=0

SexLabNudesuitVariants.esp=0

PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp=0

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Automatic Variants.esp=1

ASIS-Dependency.esp=1

ASIS.esp=1

ReProccer.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1

SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Main_AHead_A.esp=1

xo3dBukTest.esp=1

SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC1_AHead_A.esp=1

AOS_CTD_Fix.esp=1

SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC2_AHead_A.esp=1

SexLab Enchantress.esp=1

SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_MODA_DDA_A.esp=1

ElinRaceIdle.esp=1

ElinRace__zzSimsHair2.esp=1

BP2RabbitFollower.esp=0

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

_tck_SpellCrafting-SkyRePatch.esp=0

kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp=0

yurufuwa_variance_eng.esp=1

zzEstrus.esp=1

zzEstrusMimic.esp=1

SexLabDangerousNights.esp=1

xvisionchildren - main.esp=1

MateraKhajiitTest.esp=0

HideSailorsRepose.esp=0

xo3dBondageFurniture.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=0

puzzylight.esp=0

Poet.esp=0

Poet2.esp=0

ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1

ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Falskaar patch.esp=1

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp=0

RevampedExteriorFog.esp=0

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=0

SDpatch - frostfall.esp=0

ElinRace Khajiit Replacer.esp=1

 

You're going to need a load order from someone with the same problem to see if anything that I don't have matches up between the two of you, though.

 

 

I seem to be not the only one who gets this mod conflict, there were some posts mentioning the same problem in the O3D and Devious Devices threads.

Please post your load orders if you either can run both mods fine together or also get the CTD issue i have. Older versions of DD and O3D bondage furniture worked together without problems, and since MUD can run both mods together i hope with enough load orders posted i might find the conflicting mod. Cause i don't wanna miss O3Ds bondage furniture mod, it is great for scenes.

 

Thanks in advance, surrender you annoying mod conflict, you can't hide from the collective loverslab forum wisdom, so resistence is pointless  
 

 

[WaxenFigure]

You assume that the reason someone doesn't get CTDs is visible in their load order.  But the load order will not show items like SSME which may be the deciding factor.

 

Read this and follow its instructions first

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/?

 

The solution to your CTDs may not be in your load order but if it is then those instructions will be of help anyway.

[Johnny05]

Just reinstalled oli3d's mod to test it once again today.

 

I used to have the exact same bug when oli3d's mod was installed. But for some reason the armbinder doesn't crash the game anymore, despite having oli3d's mod installed.

I'm not sure why it isn't crashing anymore, but a few days ago I cleaned the Skyrim esm/esp's with TES5Edit (and possibly did some other stabillity related suff). Maybe that solved the problem.

[Funkcikle]

this is not quite the same thing but, when I equip an armbinder, and have the realistic vagina body installed, the pussy goes mental and the lip stretch down the knees, unless I use the new WIP skeleton that has the pussy bones removed.

 

Now I know meshes and skeletons and bones can be notorious for causing CTD's. Perhaps that might be something to look into for the cause of your ctds. Try using Groove's new WIP no pussy bone skeleton ?

[xboronx]

Still no luck, did install SSME.

 

Otherwise Olis mod works just fine, just the armbinder causes ctd.

 

Thanks for trying to help me, guess i'll wait for the new DD updates which should come in a few days.

 

 

Now I know meshes and skeletons and bones can be notorious for causing CTD's. Perhaps that might be something to look into for the cause of your ctds. Try using Groove's new WIP no pussy bone skeleton ?

 

Could you please provide a link?

 

 

You assume that the reason someone doesn't get CTDs is visible in their load order.  But the load order will not show items like SSME which may be the deciding factor.

 

Read this and follow its instructions first

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/?

 

The solution to your CTDs may not be in your load order but if it is then those instructions will be of help anyway.

 

Should i use the ENBoost too? I did everything else from the guide, but the ENBoost seemed unneccessary, Skyrim otherwise runs quite great recently.

Tes5edit doesn't show conflicts between O3D and my other mods.

 

This is the only thing:

 

How do i find out which animation/file is this? I suspect that the armbinder might accidently use not the ZaZ animation but O3Ds animation with the same name instead, and thus leading to the CTD. But it's only noob guessing, you are much more knowledgeable
 

[WaxenFigure]

ENBOOST will move huge amounts of graphics from the games limited memory so you can run high res and not run into the game's memory limit which will cause a CTD.

 

So, Yes run it too. Especially if you've loaded some graphics upgrades.

 

Oh, and that referenced animation is the very next one in the list of animations. Both the name and the ID match.

[xboronx]

ENBOOST will move huge amounts of graphics from the games limited memory so you can run high res and not run into the game's memory limit which will cause a CTD.

 

So, Yes run it too. Especially if you've loaded some graphics upgrades.

 

Oh, and that referenced animation is the very next one in the list of animations. Both the name and the ID match.

Enboost didn't help neither. If you have any further ideas thanks in advance, and thanks for trying to help me so nicely.

 

The ENBoost seems to be very useful nontheless

[xboronx]

Now that i updated FNIS to the new version which came out a few days ago the armbinder finally works together with O3Ds mod. I'm happy like a little child on christmas