TajZ Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 Hi, this is similar to my last thread. i7-7700k @ 4.20ghz with 64GB ram and an 1080TI GTX card. FNIS SE 7.6 SKSE 1.5.97 Bodyslide FNIS doesn't even load any animations which could be my problem. Using MO2, it is telling me that my only Form 43 error is from Skyrim Utility Mod 2.60 SE. Here is my load order and I hope the papyrus log. EditorPapyrus.0.log SE Loadorder - 6-10-23-3.44pm.txt
Gh0sTG0 Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) Hi. 1) Form 43 error is overhyped, if that mod is marked as SE it should work on se (but there are 2 SE's now - 1 is 1.5.97, another one is .640. If you just install from steam it will install you .640 version of game. Yes even if you don't purchase that CC mods pack - it will upgrade base game code to .640 and it will req specific mods. Check if your mods are SE/AE versions or there are comments that they will work there) 2) Are you using SKSE 1.5.97 on downgraded version? Try to check your modlist if any of mods require specific version of them to work on SE, if no then use correct skse for .640 or what you have there. 3) Are you starting your fnis from mo2? 4) If everything is ok, you checked everything, there are no incompatibilities - try to install .net script framework or Crash Logger SSE AE VR - PDB support and post here logs it will generate. PS and ofc wait for someone who is good in reading error logs from papyrus, so that maybe they can find the problem there. Edited June 10, 2023 by Gh0sTG0
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Gh0sTG0 said: Hi. 1) Form 43 error is overhyped, if that mod is marked as SE it should work on se (but there are 2 SE's now - 1 is 1.5.97, another one is .640. If you just install from steam it will install you .640 version of game. Yes even if you don't purchase that CC mods pack - it will upgrade base game code to .640 and it will req specific mods. Check if your mods are SE/AE versions or there are comments that they will work there) 2) Are you using SKSE 1.5.97 on downgraded version? Try to check your modlist if any of mods require specific version of them to work on SE, if no then use correct skse for .640 or what you have there. 3) Are you starting your fnis from mo2? 4) If everything is ok, you checked everything, there are no incompatibilities - try to install .net script framework or Crash Logger SSE AE VR - PDB support and post here logs it will generate. PS and ofc wait for someone who is good in reading error logs from papyrus, so that maybe they can find the problem there. 38 minutes ago, TajZ said: Hi, this is similar to my last thread. i7-7700k @ 4.20ghz with 64GB ram and an 1080TI GTX card. FNIS SE 7.6 SKSE 1.5.97 Bodyslide FNIS doesn't even load any animations which could be my problem. Using MO2, it is telling me that my only Form 43 error is from Skyrim Utility Mod 2.60 SE. Here is my load order and I hope the papyrus log. EditorPapyrus.0.log 31.76 kB · 1 download SE Loadorder - 6-10-23-3.44pm.txt 6.06 kB · 1 download hey your load oder is way out out of wack realy off
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, TajZ said: Hi, this is similar to my last thread. i7-7700k @ 4.20ghz with 64GB ram and an 1080TI GTX card. FNIS SE 7.6 SKSE 1.5.97 Bodyslide FNIS doesn't even load any animations which could be my problem. Using MO2, it is telling me that my only Form 43 error is from Skyrim Utility Mod 2.60 SE. Here is my load order and I hope the papyrus log. EditorPapyrus.0.log 31.76 kB · 1 download SE Loadorder - 6-10-23-3.44pm.txt 6.06 kB · 1 download heres a example of a proper order to help for 1.5.97 also try using this as a ref order to help sort your load order out a bit and if newer to modding dont use bruma or mods like it as they require alot more nowolege on how to generate lod and terrain to fit properly with normal world my curent modlist.txt
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Gh0sTG0 said: Hi. 1) Form 43 error is overhyped, if that mod is marked as SE it should work on se (but there are 2 SE's now - 1 is 1.5.97, another one is .640. If you just install from steam it will install you .640 version of game. Yes even if you don't purchase that CC mods pack - it will upgrade base game code to .640 and it will req specific mods. Check if your mods are SE/AE versions or there are comments that they will work there) 2) Are you using SKSE 1.5.97 on downgraded version? Try to check your modlist if any of mods require specific version of them to work on SE, if no then use correct skse for .640 or what you have there. 3) Are you starting your fnis from mo2? 4) If everything is ok, you checked everything, there are no incompatibilities - try to install .net script framework or Crash Logger SSE AE VR - PDB support and post here logs it will generate. PS and ofc wait for someone who is good in reading error logs from papyrus, so that maybe they can find the problem there. like ghost said form 43 is not acualy a issue on se as se can handle form 15 - form 44 although form 15 through form 41 will want a conversion of somekind as the esp is fine but the scripts and/or textures wont be on anything less than form 42 for 1.5.97 also in terms of scripts form 43 is the newest se 1.5.97 can handle dependingon mod
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 for scripts se can handle form 43 at oldest not newest my bad
pinky6225 Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 1 hour ago, TajZ said: Hi, this is similar to my last thread. i7-7700k @ 4.20ghz with 64GB ram and an 1080TI GTX card. FNIS SE 7.6 SKSE 1.5.97 Bodyslide FNIS doesn't even load any animations which could be my problem. Using MO2, it is telling me that my only Form 43 error is from Skyrim Utility Mod 2.60 SE. Here is my load order and I hope the papyrus log. EditorPapyrus.0.log 31.76 kB · 2 downloads SE Loadorder - 6-10-23-3.44pm.txt 6.06 kB · 3 downloads If the issue is as the thread title describes, crashing before the menu even appears (on the beth logo prolly) then your missing a dependancy for another mod, running SSEdit with everything selected (or checking you have the requirements for each mod manually) would be the first point of call to work out what your missing If you are making it ingame and making a character and animations aren't loading etc then posting the full FNIS report would be helpful to work out whats going on
TajZ Posted June 11, 2023 Author Posted June 11, 2023 18 hours ago, Gh0sTG0 said: Hi. 1) Form 43 error is overhyped, if that mod is marked as SE it should work on se (but there are 2 SE's now - 1 is 1.5.97, another one is .640. If you just install from steam it will install you .640 version of game. Yes even if you don't purchase that CC mods pack - it will upgrade base game code to .640 and it will req specific mods. Check if your mods are SE/AE versions or there are comments that they will work there) 2) Are you using SKSE 1.5.97 on downgraded version? Try to check your modlist if any of mods require specific version of them to work on SE, if no then use correct skse for .640 or what you have there. 3) Are you starting your fnis from mo2? 4) If everything is ok, you checked everything, there are no incompatibilities - try to install .net script framework or Crash Logger SSE AE VR - PDB support and post here logs it will generate. PS and ofc wait for someone who is good in reading error logs from papyrus, so that maybe they can find the problem there. 1) all my mods should be using the SE equivalent 2) I am using SKSE 1.5.97 after using downgrade patcher from AE .640. 3) yes, also TESVSGM, BodySlide, CreationKit and SSEedit 18 hours ago, LTD_LoneWolf said: heres a example of a proper order to help for 1.5.97 also try using this as a ref order to help sort your load order out a bit and if newer to modding dont use bruma or mods like it as they require alot more nowolege on how to generate lod and terrain to fit properly with normal world my curent modlist.txt 5.02 kB · 0 downloads I used Loot from MO2 to sort my plugins, not sure what is happening there. CrashLogger.log
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, TajZ said: 1) all my mods should be using the SE equivalent 2) I am using SKSE 1.5.97 after using downgrade patcher from AE .640. 3) yes, also TESVSGM, BodySlide, CreationKit and SSEedit I used Loot from MO2 to sort my plugins, not sure what is happening there. CrashLogger.log 462 B · 0 downloads The order in wich textures and scripts are loading is off from yor list u sent
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Just now, LTD_LoneWolf said: The order in wich textures and scripts are loading is off from yor list u sent Aslo loot doestnt sor loverslab mods that well those u need to manualy sort after running loot and redate the plug-ins and go into sse edit and solve conflicts manualy
TajZ Posted June 11, 2023 Author Posted June 11, 2023 ....ok, I just opened the CrashLogger and it doesn not show a crash{timestamp} in my SKSE at Documents/My Games/Skyrim Special Edition/SKSE
TajZ Posted June 11, 2023 Author Posted June 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, LTD_LoneWolf said: Aslo loot doestnt sor loverslab mods that well those u need to manualy sort after running loot and redate the plug-ins and go into sse edit and solve conflicts manualy Ok, will recheck.
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 All loverslab esps should load after all other nexus esp and all loverlab esm should load after patches like ussep but before all other nexus mods esms
LTD_LoneWolf Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, LTD_LoneWolf said: All loverslab esps should load after all other nexus esp and all loverlab esm should load after patches like ussep but before all other nexus mods esms Also since u are using bruma u will need to generate your own lod textures also but only when your load order and conflicts are sorted out
TajZ Posted August 21, 2023 Author Posted August 21, 2023 Ok here is my load order today, I think I have it right in terms of LL after Nexus but it still won't load. loadorder 8-20-23.22.35.txt
lisander68 Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 5 hours ago, TajZ said: Ok here is my load order today, I think I have it right in terms of LL after Nexus but it still won't load. loadorder 8-20-23.22.35.txt 4.44 kB · 1 download The skse you are using is incorrect. If you reverted Skyrim to 1.5.97, its skse must be 2.0.20 (I'll never understand why downgrade) https://skse.silverlock.org Also, the order of LOOT is incorrect. Instead of launching it via MO2, do it directly from the program and you'll see the difference. LOOT places Alternative Start as the latest mod in the load order
TajZ Posted January 22, 2024 Author Posted January 22, 2024 Alright, so I did a completely clean install, removed from Steam folder, My Games, and Registry, etc. I even stopped using MO2 because I could not for the life of me get it to work. Went straight Anniversary 1.640 build and DID NOT downgrade or upgrade to last week's update. I can start the game and even get to the opening sequence but Alternate Start mod will not start properly (infinite black screen, music w/o menu options). Here is my LO currently, which needs some work and some of my mods are not activating on the mod list. loadorder 1-22-24.txt
Guest Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 (edited) TajZ, I bow to your resilience, considering that the topic has been started 06/10/23. Maybe some of this will ease your pain. I decided to add links to useful utilities that make it easier to find the cause of errors. Trainwreck - A Crash Logger Crash Logger SSE AE VR + CLA SSE NET Script Framework (before SE 1.6) CrashLogger Reader Edited January 24, 2024 by DXCinereus
TajZ Posted February 14, 2024 Author Posted February 14, 2024 Sorry for the delay, IRL issues and honestly, BG3 just recently. So hereCrashLogger.log is the Crashlogger and the pics of the mods that refuse to "unable to locate." At the very least I want the Devious Skyrim/LL mods active. I have other documents in the SKSE Documents/ My Games/Skyrim SE folder if needed.
TajZ Posted February 15, 2024 Author Posted February 15, 2024 .... Sorry, should have opened it first. It did infinite loading, logo with music but nothing else.
TajZ Posted February 16, 2024 Author Posted February 16, 2024 Ok, Here is a crashlog with BetterQuestObjectives and Live A2024-02-15-19-57-09.lognother Life disabled. Here are some screens and my LO. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm 6 6 ccbgssse001-fish.esm 254 FE 0 ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl 254 FE 1 ccbgssse003-zombies.esl 254 FE 2 ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl 254 FE 3 ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl 254 FE 4 ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl 254 FE 5 ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl 254 FE 6 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl 254 FE 7 ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl 254 FE 8 ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl 254 FE 9 ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl 254 FE a ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl 254 FE b ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl 254 FE c ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl 254 FE d ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl 254 FE e ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl 7 7 cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm 8 8 cceejsse001-hstead.esm 254 FE f ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl 254 FE 10 ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl 254 FE 11 ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl 254 FE 12 ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl 254 FE 13 cceejsse002-tower.esl 254 FE 14 ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl 254 FE 15 ccvsvsse002-pets.esl 254 FE 16 ccbgssse037-curios.esl 254 FE 17 ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl 254 FE 18 ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl 254 FE 19 ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl 254 FE 1a ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl 254 FE 1b ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl 254 FE 1c ccmtysse002-ve.esl 254 FE 1d ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl 254 FE 1e ccvsvsse001-winter.esl 254 FE 1f cceejsse003-hollow.esl 9 9 ccbgssse016-umbra.esm 10 a ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm 254 FE 20 ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl 254 FE 21 ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl 254 FE 22 ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl 254 FE 23 ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl 254 FE 24 ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl 254 FE 25 ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl 254 FE 26 ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl 254 FE 27 ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl 254 FE 28 ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl 254 FE 29 ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl 254 FE 2a ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl 254 FE 2b ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl 254 FE 2c ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl 254 FE 2d ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl 254 FE 2e ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl 254 FE 2f ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl 254 FE 30 ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl 254 FE 31 ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl 254 FE 32 ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl 254 FE 33 ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl 254 FE 34 ccbgssse066-staves.esl 11 b ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm 254 FE 35 ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl 254 FE 36 ccbgssse069-contest.esl 254 FE 37 ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl 254 FE 38 ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl 12 c ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 254 FE 39 ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl 254 FE 3a ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl 254 FE 3b ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl 254 FE 3c ccedhsse003-redguard.esl 254 FE 3d cceejsse004-hall.esl 13 d cceejsse005-cave.esm 254 FE 3e cckrtsse001_altar.esl 254 FE 3f cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl 14 e ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm 254 FE 40 _ResourcePack.esl 15 f Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 16 10 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm 17 11 BSAssets.esm 18 12 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm 19 13 BSHeartland.esm 20 14 BS_DLC_patch.esp 21 15 CompanionArissa.esm 22 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 23 17 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 24 18 ApachiiHair.esm 25 19 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 254 FE 41 hdtHighHeel.esm 26 1a CreatureFramework.esm 27 1b SexLab.esm 28 1c SexLabAroused.esm 29 1d Devious Devices - Assets.esm 30 1e Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 31 1f Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 32 20 Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 33 21 SkyUI_SE.esp 34 22 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 35 23 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 36 24 Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Wenches RRR-patch.esp 37 25 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 38 26 RaceMenu.esp 39 27 RaceMenuHH.esp 40 28 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp 41 29 Skyland Watercolor - Slow Green-Vanilla.esp 254 FE 42 SunDaytimeNorth_MM_default.esp 42 2a S3DRocks.esp 254 FE 43 MajesticMountains.esp 43 2b BlendedRoads.esp 44 2c HPP - FirewoodSnow.esp 254 FE 44 HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp 254 FE 45 OreIngotsFadingsignal.esp 254 FE 46 Mrf solitude.esp 45 2d ELFX - Exteriors.esp 46 2e Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 47 2f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 48 30 GreatWarSkyrim.esp 49 31 Cutting Room Floor.esp 50 32 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp 51 33 S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp 52 34 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 53 35 Devious Devices - BRRF.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp 54 36 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 55 37 MilkModNEW.esp 56 38 MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp 57 39 SLUTS.esp 58 3a ELFX - Weathers.esp 59 3b icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp 60 3c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 61 3d Point The Way.esp 62 3e Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp 254 FE 47 HappyLittleTrees.esp 63 3f ArcheryDummyXP.esp 254 FE 48 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 64 40 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 65 41 ViewableFactionRanks.esp 254 FE 49 AreYouThereSE.esp 66 42 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 67 43 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 68 44 dD-Larger Drips.esp SC Great War - ELFX.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp 254 FE 4a SkygazerMoonsSize.esp 69 45 FurnitureMarkerSex.esp 70 46 Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp 71 47 Lit Road Signs.esp 72 48 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 73 49 Cloaks.esp 74 4a OBIS SE.esp 254 FE 4b OBIS Female Mannequins Patch.esp 75 4b Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp 76 4c Immersive Weapons.esp 77 4d MoreNastyCritters.esp 78 4e Immersive Horses.esp 79 4f BosmerArmorMATY743.esp 254 FE 4c Great War - USSEP.esp 80 50 Laura's Bondage Shop.esp 81 51 Devious Cidhna.esp 82 52 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 83 53 Immersive Patrols II.esp 84 54 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Dawnguard_Patch.esp 85 55 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 86 56 Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp 87 57 SimpleSlavery.esp 88 58 FNISSexyMove.esp 89 59 FNIS.esp 90 5a FNISspells.esp 91 5b Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp 92 5c Gwelda Vampire.esp 93 5d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 94 5e UNPKK SkimpyArmorReplacerNEW-SSE.esp 95 5f kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp 96 60 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 254 FE 4d KSHairdosSMP.esp 97 61 KS Hairdo's.esp 98 62 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 99 63 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 100 64 SGEyebrows.esp 101 65 ImmersiveCheatMenu.esp 102 66 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 103 67 Faction Crossbows.esp 104 68 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 105 69 LeftHandRings.esp 254 FE 4e Ultimate Lingerie Collection 2 BHUNP.esp 106 6a Cathedral Weathers.esp 254 FE 4f Cathedral Weather Godrays.esp 107 6b NorthernGrass.esp 108 6c Veydosebrom Regions.esp 254 FE 50 Arissa_DefaultBody+DialogFix.esp 109 6d RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp 110 6e BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 111 6f Dawnguard Vampire.esp Dawnguard Vampire - SDE.esp 112 70 LPBards.esp 254 FE 51 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 254 FE 52 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 254 FE 53 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp 113 71 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp 114 72 RDO - USSEP Patch.esp 115 73 SLAnimLoader.esp 254 FE 54 Devious Devices SE patch.esp 116 74 AngrimApprentice.esp 117 75 Deviously Enslaved.esp 118 76 Skyland-AIO.esp 119 77 HoldBorderBanners.esp 120 78 BeyondSkyrimMerchant.esp 121 79 OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp 122 7a Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp 123 7b Blush When Aroused.esp 124 7c Cumshot.esp 254 FE 55 CumshotSL.esp 125 7d Devious Devices - Equip.esp 126 7e DD_Helpers.esp 127 7f EstrusChaurus.esp 128 80 EstrusDwemer.esp 129 81 Serial Strip Merged.esp 130 82 SLAdventures.esp 131 83 SexLabDefeat.esp 132 84 SlaveTats.esp 133 85 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 134 86 BecomeABard.esp 135 87 LPBardsAndunielSSE.esp 254 FE 56 VISPatch_Anduniel_Songbook_SSE.esp 254 FE 57 Immersive Wenches -Become a Bard- Patch.esp 136 88 XPMSE.esp 137 89 SOSRaceMenu.esp 138 8a Invisible Helmets.esp 139 8b Invisible Hoods.esp 140 8c dD Follower Escape.esp 141 8d MilkModNEW CF.esp 142 8e MilkModNEW HF.esp 143 8f NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 144 90 Better Vampires.esp 145 91 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 146 92 MoreDeviousStarts.esp 147 93 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 254 FE 58 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp 148 94 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 149 95 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 150 96 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp 151 97 AMatterOfTime.esp 152 98 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 254 FE 59 Stale_Food_RND.esp
TajZ Posted December 19, 2024 Author Posted December 19, 2024 Well, I finally bit the bullet and migrated everything over to MO2. Now I am confused, I removed all Missing Masters conflicts. All Form 43 conflicts. I only have 1 notification, and its the Overwrite folder - and I removed that completely first time. Here is the crash log. Also just to let everyone know, I don't know how to read it exactly, but I kept seeing Alternate Start - Live A Devious Life.bsa so I turned that off, still no dice. crash-2024-12-19-21-39-25.log
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