(LoversBitch) Certain dogs and Npc's prohibited from Sex

[rea_jak]

Depending on the save game, certain races of dogs will be unable to have sex through the Jorburg mod or through spells like "rape me". It also happens for certain NPC's. If i start a fresh save, the problem seems to solve itself except that i still do not know what caused the problem or how to fix it if it happens again. New games also cause all my walk/run animations to break for some reason.

 

 

 

Load Order

Oblivion.esm
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm
CM Partners.esm
Chanpon.esm
Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp
Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOPS Additional Changes.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp
Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp
Crowded Cities 15.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
Knights.esp
Knights Vwalk.esp
RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
LoversDRader.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
LoversJoburg.esp
LoversPayBandit.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp
Lovers with PK Extender.esp
LoversSoundCreature.esp
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LSTaddonout.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
LoversStupidNpc.esp
BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
FasterArrows200.esp
SW01.esp
SW01Plus.esp
SWalk.esp
CM Partners.esp
Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
Alternate Start Revamped.esp
x117race.esp
x117Race ENG Race.esp
Lop-ears Elf.esp
CM Partners Vwalk.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp
DAFeria.esp
Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
ArrowsWeightNothingSE.esp
ArrowsWeightNothing.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
LoversMotionsNT.esp
Specialanims.esp

 

 

Edit:Rearranged a revised load order i made before reading your reply Gregthit. Hasnt solved my issue yet but ill look at what you've posted.

[gregathit]

Your load order is suspect.

 

Here are my recommendations  (Wall of text warning):

 

 

Disable and delete the following:

LoversMotionsNT.esp  <---this plugin doesn't do diddly.  The animations will work just fine without it.

 

 

NOTHING SHOULD EVER BE BELOW THESE TWO:

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

If something is lower in your load order than the above two then generally you can expect Lovers to freak out.  It may be just a little or it may stop working completely.  There are exceptions to this rule, but you are not running any of the plugins that fall under those exceptions.

 

 

Stuff to rearrange:

Younger hotter plugins - this should be below your official DLC and your UOP patches.  If it is NOT below them then it is being overwritten and you might as well not even have it installed.

CM partners plugins - these should be just under the Younger hotter plugins.  CM partners plugins can screw your game up quick fast and in a hurry as some are rife with dirty edits and conflicts.  

Arrow plugins - move this stuff up just under the official DLC and UOP patches as well.  I would say just above the new younger hotter location.

These three need to be above all your LPK plugins:

Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp

Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

DAFeria.esp

 

Specialanims.esp  <-----I would move this to be just above the current location of your MBP plugins.

 

Stuff to check out:

SW01.esp

SW01Plus.esp

SWalk.esp

Pretty sure you are NOT supposed to have all three of these installed at once.  Additionally I am also pretty sure they are going to conflict with the vwalk system (Sensual Walks).  Choose one walk system for NPC's and stick with it.  Using multiple systems just asks for odd stuff to start happening.  It is OK to use one walk system for NPC's and one for the PC but that is the max you should have.

 

ArrowsWeightNothingSE.esp

ArrowsWeightNothing.esp

Check the readme.txt for these to see if you were supposed to pick only one or if running both is fine.  Also see note above about moving them up in your load order.

 

 

 

 

Having made all the above changes you will need to start a new game to test if this resolves your problems.

 

Cheers,

Greg

[rea_jak]

Your load order is suspect.

 

Here are my recommendations  (Wall of text warning):

 

 

Disable and delete the following:

LoversMotionsNT.esp  <---this plugin doesn't do diddly.  The animations will work just fine without it.

 

 

NOTHING SHOULD EVER BE BELOW THESE TWO:

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

If something is lower in your load order than the above two then generally you can expect Lovers to freak out.  It may be just a little or it may stop working completely.  There are exceptions to this rule, but you are not running any of the plugins that fall under those exceptions.

 

 

Stuff to rearrange:

Younger hotter plugins - this should be below your official DLC and your UOP patches.  If it is NOT below them then it is being overwritten and you might as well not even have it installed.

CM partners plugins - these should be just under the Younger hotter plugins.  CM partners plugins can screw your game up quick fast and in a hurry as some are rife with dirty edits and conflicts.  

Arrow plugins - move this stuff up just under the official DLC and UOP patches as well.  I would say just above the new younger hotter location.

These three need to be above all your LPK plugins:

Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp

Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

DAFeria.esp

 

Specialanims.esp  <-----I would move this to be just above the current location of your MBP plugins.

 

Stuff to check out:

SW01.esp

SW01Plus.esp

SWalk.esp

Pretty sure you are NOT supposed to have all three of these installed at once.  Additionally I am also pretty sure they are going to conflict with the vwalk system (Sensual Walks).  Choose one walk system for NPC's and stick with it.  Using multiple systems just asks for odd stuff to start happening.  It is OK to use one walk system for NPC's and one for the PC but that is the max you should have.

 

ArrowsWeightNothingSE.esp

ArrowsWeightNothing.esp

Check the readme.txt for these to see if you were supposed to pick only one or if running both is fine.  Also see note above about moving them up in your load order.

 

 

 

 

Having made all the above changes you will need to start a new game to test if this resolves your problems.

 

Cheers,

Greg

 

Heres my re-revised load order.

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

x117race.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

LoversCreature.esm

Chanpon.esm

CM Partners.esm

DAFeria.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp

Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOPS Additional Changes.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

Crowded Cities 15.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp

Knights.esp

Knights Vwalk.esp

FasterArrows200.esp

ArrowsWeightNothing.esp

ArrowsWeightNothingSE.esp (Both are needed, one for Shivering isles)

RMDailyIncomeV2.esp

LoversDRader.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

LoversPayBandit.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversBitch.esp

LoversCreature.esp

Lovers with PK Extender.esp

LoversSoundCreature.esp

LoversSlaveTrader.esp

LSTaddonout.esp

LSTBravilUnderground.esp

LoversStupidNpc.esp

BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp

SW01.esp (both these SW.esp's are needed, the SWplus was not)

SWalk.esp

CM Partners.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

Alternate Start Revamped.esp

x117race.esp

x117Race ENG Race.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp

Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp

Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp

Specialanims.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

 

Unfortunately i've not seen any noticeable changes and my original problem is still there. Is there a way to reset an entire races AI? So far only the Mutt breed is un able to engage in sex, or the occasional non essential npc.

[rea_jak]

Nevermind, a fresh save seems to solve my issue. Though all my progression is lost...hardly encouraging to continue playing . It would be nice to somehow find out what caused the problem in the first place in order to prevent it in the future.

[Guest jenny2011]

I'm also having similar problems. Some NPCs just won't rape during combat; some will start sex but no animations will happen.

 

Example: My char was stalked by a dog from Joburg. Sex started, but no anims worked. Same thing happened upon combat rape with dogs or yield during combat, etc... it doesn't seem to be a problem with Joburg. Maybe LoversCreatures or LoversBitches or LAPF?

 

EDIT:

Here's my load order:

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  x117race.esm
03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
04  Lovers with PK.esm
05  TamagoClub.esm
06  HiyokoClub.esm
07  LoversCreature.esm
08  Chanpon.esm
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  DLCHorseArmor.esp
0B  DLCOrrery.esp
0C  DLCVileLair.esp
0D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
0E  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
++  DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
0F  DLCThievesDen.esp
10  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
11  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
12  DLCFrostcrag.esp
13  Knights.esp
14  LoversCalm.esp
15  LoversImmoralGuards.esp
16  LoversTamagoClub.esp
17  HiyokoGenerator.esp
18  TamagoSetBody.esp
19  LoversClubCats.esp
1A  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
1B  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
1C  LoversRaperS.esp
1D  LoversJoburg.esp
1E  LoversBed.esp
1F  LoversPayBandit.esp
20  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v4a]
21  LoversBitch.esp
22  LoversCreature.esp
23  LoversOrgy.esp
24  LoversBackup2.esp
25  LoversRapeSlave.esp
26  LoversLight.esp
27  LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
28  LoversBrute.esp
29  SetBody.esp
2A  AutoSetBody.esp
2B  DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
2C  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
2D  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
2E  x117race.esp
++  x117Race ENG Race.esp
2F  Lop-ears Elf.esp
30  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
31  LoversMB2.esp
32  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
33  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

[gregathit]

Did you install the LAPF before installing LC 2.0?

 

If not then install LC 2.0 again and try to have sex.

[Guest jenny2011]

Did you install the LAPF before installing LC 2.0?

 

If not then install LC 2.0 again and try to have sex.

I did, I'll try reinstalling LC2.0 and see how things go.

[Guest jenny2011]

Reinstalling LC2.0 did the trick!

[rea_jak]

Did you install the LAPF before installing LC 2.0?

 

If not then install LC 2.0 again and try to have sex.

Sorry, i'm unsure what mod LAPF stands for but i reinstalled LC 2.0 to no avail. I dont remember what my install order was.

 

Mutts still give me the "Mutt is not horny right now" message when trying to liberate their instincts using the Joberg mod and the "Rape me" spell does absolutely nothing (on that specific breed). One save forbids German Shepherds and another forbids Collies and all universally forbid Mutts.  Everything seems to fix itself when starting a new game but i just dont want to have to restart a new game or roll back several hours or days of progression whenever i encounter the problem.

 

Edit: Nevermind i figured out what LAPF stands for. And I probably did install it before LC.

[fejeena]

"Mutt is not horny right now" is Joburg not LoversBitch. I often get this message with NPCs or Creatures (Punish Them! or Liberate Their Instincts! ), they are not horny so they do not rape you or a NPC. Set the Joburg Settings higher or wait some time.

And the LoversBitch "rape traget" spell only works if the dog has ability Points.

Do the Mud and other "problem" Dogs mount you if you are in Mount-Position (mount key, on all fours) ?

[rea_jak]

"Mutt is not horny right now" is Joburg not LoversBitch. I often get this message with NPCs or Creatures (Punish Them! or Liberate Their Instincts! ), they are not horny so they do not rape you or a NPC. Set the Joburg Settings higher or wait some time.

And the LoversBitch "rape traget" spell only works if the dog has ability Points.

Do the Mud and other "problem" Dogs mount you if you are in Mount-Position (mount key, on all fours) ?

Going on all fours didnt work. I hear a faint drum beat whenever i get in front of the dog which i assume would normally be the mount animation kicking in. The other dogs work fine in this particular save game. Set Lewdness to 120 in Joberg and waited a while, then used Joberg NPC settings spell to Liberate Instincts and Set Stalker. I get "Mutt is not horny right now" and "Mutt is prohibited from sex" respectively.

 

[fejeena]

Then you must start a new game.

Perhaps you can try: kill and disable the "Problem" Dogs with the console. Leave the shop, wait 3 days and save. Quit game, load game and use the console to get back the Dogs. ( console commands in the lower spoiler here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15876-loversbitch-gone-wild-14b/ )

Yes these dogs lose all their Training Progress.

 

Solution 2: kill all the fucking "Problem" Dogs and use only the working Dogs   ( yes this is a joke )

[rea_jak]

Then you must start a new game.

Perhaps you can try: kill and disable the "Problem" Dogs with the console. Leave the shop, wait 3 days and save. Quit game, load game and use the console to get back the Dogs. ( console commands in the lower spoiler here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15876-loversbitch-gone-wild-14b/ )

Yes these dogs lose all their Training Progress.

 

Solution 2: kill all the fucking "Problem" Dogs and use only the working Dogs   ( yes this is a joke )

Alright well ive found a simple solution thats better than starting a new game i suppose. I just turned off LoversBitch and saved then restarted the game with LoversBitch on. Ofc i need to restart the quest line but its far better than starting back at lvl 1.

 

And solution 2 fejeena was mighty tempting for a while ill be serious lol. Console killing them wasn't satisfying enough unless i brought out the sword instead. Wish there was someway to reset the AI of the whole race through the console.