(SOLVED) Eyebrow Glitch

[Gukahn]

Hey guys, i recently encountered a minor bug in my game and i am not really sure how this happened and when, stupid i know

Eyebrows in females glitch sometimes when they talk or changing expression

 

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So far this is true for redguard and nords, probably will be the same for bretons too. I am using some NPC replacers and i encountered the bug with the Bijins and Pandorables but also some modded npc´s. . Could it be a lighting issue? I installed brows to see if this one would fix it but nothing and google gave me something but maybe i am just tired. If anyone has a suggestion i would appreciated it.

 

I really don't think my LO is to blame here but just in case and to give you something to work with

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I don't have any other kind of face bug in my game, just this one. Looks funny on bright haired npc´s.

Edited January 26, 2022 by Gukahn

[Tlam99]

High poly head with brows for normal head.

[Gukahn]

4 minutes ago, Tlam99 said:

High poly head with brows for normal head

you mean the glitch happens cause i use the high poly head for my pc and that changes it for npcs as well?  Thought it only changes the one the pc and npc´s designed with it use not every character.

[Gukahn]

wasn't it, disabled it just to see and the bug still happens

[Guest]

or viceversa, i had that issue wen instaling high poly head while using non poly head brows, but could be the oposite, maybe youre using the wrong expresive facial animation or so, your problem is or your brows, or your head (morphs, nif, or something)

[Gukahn]

10 minutes ago, urban nomad nome said:

or viceversa, i had that issue wen instaling high poly head while using non poly head brows, but could be the oposite, maybe youre using the wrong expresive facial animation or so, your problem is or your brows, or your head (morphs, nif, or something)

The thing is i have it with npc´s like in the pic, she is one of the npc´s bijin replaces. Same goes for the ones pandorable replaced, at least Elisif (not entierly sure if every single npc that got their treatment has this. Will see if it is true for the most tomorrow.)

 

Their facegen shouldn't be touched by any other mod that does only touch the Player. That's why i can't figure it out ? And i never had the problem with expressions before. Even happens when they just talk

 

(Just to be sure if reinstalling would work i installed SexSlaves to see if they would be affected by that bug too and they are , kinda lost here.)

Edited January 25, 2022 by Gukahn

[Tlam99]

It took a while, until brows have been available for hi poly. ,lots of replacer have been made with default brows.

I know this problem, as I was involved in creating npc. Lamakreis npc's.

It was solved by using the brows made for hi poly.

You cannot solve it without creating new facegen with proper brows. It's inherent with the npc.

What I did on special npc, I integrated the brows into the face skin, and made original brows invisible.

But this is not feasible with lots of npc.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Tlam99

[Gukahn]

5 minutes ago, Tlam99 said:

It took a while, until brows have been available for hi poly. ,lots of replacer have been made with default brows.

I know this problem, as I was involved in creating npc. Lamakreis npc's.

It was solved by using the brows made by hi poly.

So i understand you right if i assume i  just swap npc replacers who has this problem with newer ones or uninstall High Poly and reinstalling the replacers i already have? Gonna try them out. btw disabling high poly didn't fix it so i just asume i have to completely uninstall it. Thanks in advance ^^

[Tlam99]

6 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

disabling high poly didn't

It's not high poly, it's the npc made with high poly. 

The facegen contains the hi poly mesh. Disabling hi poly won't help, as the npc contains it.

The facegen has been created with hi poly.

 

Look at this follower

This one showed the problem, work around integrated brows until we found hi poly brows.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/43479?tab=files

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Tlam99

[Guest]

the problem is between high poly head and bijin so have to choose only one, or try to find a high poly bijin (not shure if exist). deactivate the esp didnt fix it cause the mesh is still there, you have to uninstall it.
i metioned expresive facial animations cause i get that same problem one time i install it because was not compatible with the brows i was using.

Edited January 26, 2022 by urban nomad nome

[Gukahn]

7 hours ago, urban nomad nome said:

expresive facial animations cause i get that same problem one time i install it because was not compatible with the brows i was using.

 

Thank you very much, It was Expressive facial animations, i totally forgot i had that one installed. ?

 

@Tlam99 Thank you for the insight on the matter. Will come in handy someday