Gukahn Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Hey guys, i recently encountered a minor bug in my game and i am not really sure how this happened and when, stupid i know Eyebrows in females glitch sometimes when they talk or changing expression Spoiler So far this is true for redguard and nords, probably will be the same for bretons too. I am using some NPC replacers and i encountered the bug with the Bijins and Pandorables but also some modded npc´s. . Could it be a lighting issue? I installed brows to see if this one would fix it but nothing and google gave me something but maybe i am just tired. If anyone has a suggestion i would appreciated it. I really don't think my LO is to blame here but just in case and to give you something to work with Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp RSkyrimChildren.esm SexLab.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm TreadersSellZaz.esl ITortureFramework.esm paradise_halls.esm Werewolf Duration Remover.esl Simple No More Stupid Dog.esl Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm High Poly Head.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLabAroused.esm ApachiiHair.esm No More Letters of Inheritance ESL.esl 3DNPC.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esl ApachiiHairMales.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm TradersSellDeviousDevices.esl Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm SkyUI_SE.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp SMIM-SE-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp SMIM-SE-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp SMIM-SE-DragonbornTernFix.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp SexLabDefeat.esp HonedMetal.esp PamaCruxification.esp [COCO]Student_Uniform.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX Fixes.esp CSF_WF_Cheska.esp CSF_WF_Bliss.esp Minou Aradia Lingerie Dress.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp SimpleOutfitManager.esp [Odd] Demon Seducer.esp Cuyima 3DNPC - Redone.esp CuteAmalee.esp YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp Kanjs - Top Hat.esp XN Angel Smile.esp TSZ-EnableHDT-Addon.esp majormodder Bunny Mask.esp DD_NPC_Fixup.esp NPC Clothing Replacer.esp Snazzy_3DNPC_Items.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp NSIM.esp dse-display-model.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp adcSexlife.esp TSZ-Caravan-Addon.esp TSZ-GeneralTraders-Addon.esp TraderSellDD-Blacksmitsh-ESLOnly.esp TraderSellDD-Caravans-ESLOnly.esp TraderSellDD-GeneralTraders-ESLOnly.esp TraderSellDD-KeysToBandits-ESLOnly.esp NISIM - USSEP Patch.esp TradersSellDD-USSEP-Patch-ESL.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Animal Addon.esp ASOS Race Patch.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp HentaiCreatures.esp HornyCreatures.esp Bijin AIO.esp Animal_SOS_Original_Mesh.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp GLAM Jordis Mjoll.esp GLAM Rayya.esp BW Ria.esp DemonicCreatures.esp SeranaDialogAddon.esp This Is Jorrvaskr.esp ELFX - 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VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SlaveTats.esp Apropos2.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp Cumshot.esp CumshotSL.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp HoodPlusHairForSerana.esp PAN_Brelyna.esp PAN_NPCs_Males2.esp PAN_NPCs_Males.esp Use Special Markers.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp LeftHandRings.esp _CPR_DoubleTrouble.esp SDA_SDE Patch.esp SDA_SLPatch.esp Citizens Visual Overhaul.esp Valerica.esp Animal_SOS.esp Blush When Aroused.esp MassMatchMakerSE.esp SexLabTools.esp SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp SexLabStopCombat.esp SLACS.esp SLAnimLoader.esp CBBE.esp Shout_Cooldowns_That_Make_Sense.esp PAN_NPCs_DG.esp sirwho_Wizard_Hat.esp PAN_NPCs_DB.esp Bijin NPCs.esp GLAM-Karliah.esp PAN_BlackBriar.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp Bijin Wives.esp PAN_MarvellousMiners.esp VioLens SE.esp TimingIsEverything.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuHH.esp High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp PamaInteractiveBeatup.esp TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp SeekerThrallSpell.esp DarkEnvoy.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp The Twisted Rings.esp _GSPoses.esp Sextoys Calyps Chest.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp My Home Is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus) dialogue patch.esp Maelstrom.esp Type2B_Follower.esp SLEN - FollowAddon.esp SLEN I wanna watch.esp SLEN I wanna watch-FollowAddon Patch.esp sextoys-calyps-2.esp SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp SexLab sslAnimationSlots 2000.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp LustmordVampireArmor.esp CSF_WF_Kayle.esp CSF_WF_Fiarrah.esp Build your Bandits.esp Follower to Bandit Replacer.esp KaliliesNPCs.esp Calling of the Conjurer.esp practical_pirate.esp SDA Lustmord Patch.esp Vokrii - Minimalistic Perks of Skyrim.esp Apocalypse - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp BeastJewelry.esp Phenderix Twin Souls Expanded Levels.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp Better Vampires.esp Add Sacrosanct Spells to BV.esp Legendary monster forms.esp Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp growltweak.esp Vampire Lord Drain And Serana Changed V1.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp ICOW_pan_NPCs_malesNPCS_patch.esp Qw_PANNPCs_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp Qw_BijinAIO_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp CWIMTOTPatchSE.esp PanBrelyna_ICOW_Patch.esp Convenient Horses.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp nwsFollowerFramework.esp FollowerDeathChance_NFF.esp nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp nwsFF_NTMD_Apocalypse.esp SDA NFF Patch.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp I don't have any other kind of face bug in my game, just this one. Looks funny on bright haired npc´s.
Gukahn Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tlam99 said: High poly head with brows for normal head you mean the glitch happens cause i use the high poly head for my pc and that changes it for npcs as well? Thought it only changes the one the pc and npc´s designed with it use not every character.
Gukahn Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 wasn't it, disabled it just to see and the bug still happens
Guest Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 or viceversa, i had that issue wen instaling high poly head while using non poly head brows, but could be the oposite, maybe youre using the wrong expresive facial animation or so, your problem is or your brows, or your head (morphs, nif, or something)
Gukahn Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, urban nomad nome said: or viceversa, i had that issue wen instaling high poly head while using non poly head brows, but could be the oposite, maybe youre using the wrong expresive facial animation or so, your problem is or your brows, or your head (morphs, nif, or something) The thing is i have it with npc´s like in the pic, she is one of the npc´s bijin replaces. Same goes for the ones pandorable replaced, at least Elisif (not entierly sure if every single npc that got their treatment has this. Will see if it is true for the most tomorrow.) Their facegen shouldn't be touched by any other mod that does only touch the Player. That's why i can't figure it out ? And i never had the problem with expressions before. Even happens when they just talk (Just to be sure if reinstalling would work i installed SexSlaves to see if they would be affected by that bug too and they are , kinda lost here.)
Tlam99 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 It took a while, until brows have been available for hi poly. ,lots of replacer have been made with default brows. I know this problem, as I was involved in creating npc. Lamakreis npc's. It was solved by using the brows made for hi poly. You cannot solve it without creating new facegen with proper brows. It's inherent with the npc. What I did on special npc, I integrated the brows into the face skin, and made original brows invisible. But this is not feasible with lots of npc.
Gukahn Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tlam99 said: It took a while, until brows have been available for hi poly. ,lots of replacer have been made with default brows. I know this problem, as I was involved in creating npc. Lamakreis npc's. It was solved by using the brows made by hi poly. So i understand you right if i assume i just swap npc replacers who has this problem with newer ones or uninstall High Poly and reinstalling the replacers i already have? Gonna try them out. btw disabling high poly didn't fix it so i just asume i have to completely uninstall it. Thanks in advance ^^
Tlam99 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gukahn said: disabling high poly didn't It's not high poly, it's the npc made with high poly. The facegen contains the hi poly mesh. Disabling hi poly won't help, as the npc contains it. The facegen has been created with hi poly. Look at this follower This one showed the problem, work around integrated brows until we found hi poly brows. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/43479?tab=files
Guest Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 the problem is between high poly head and bijin so have to choose only one, or try to find a high poly bijin (not shure if exist). deactivate the esp didnt fix it cause the mesh is still there, you have to uninstall it. i metioned expresive facial animations cause i get that same problem one time i install it because was not compatible with the brows i was using.
Gukahn Posted January 26, 2022 Author Posted January 26, 2022 7 hours ago, urban nomad nome said: expresive facial animations cause i get that same problem one time i install it because was not compatible with the brows i was using. Thank you very much, It was Expressive facial animations, i totally forgot i had that one installed. ? @Tlam99 Thank you for the insight on the matter. Will come in handy someday
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