fallout 4 crashing at main menu

[IceBlazeWinters]

for the past several days i've been having problems with my stupid game crashing at the main menu. i don't know what the fuck is going on or what's causing the problems, but i really need some help here.

 

i'm asking here in the adult section, cause my load order includes aaf mods.

 

the MOST RECENT mods that i downloaded are, spoilered to conserve text space:

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father companion - alternate ending option

wearable backpacks and pouches

expeditionary suit new

nuclear winter - cross_instituteexpeditonarysuit patch

cross_instituteexpeditionarysuit_090b

cross_instituteexpeditonarysuit_cbbefiles (disabled)

nuclear winter -cross_chosenofatom patch

cross_courserstrigade_090c

archimedes-ii_v091a

cross_2077_091b

cross_cryolance_090a

cross_coa_091a_esl

water purification project

immersive water purrification - wpp wasteland workshop patch

sanctuary estates - institute version (disabled cause i no longer have a save after dealing with sturges)

hellfire x-03 power armor 0.21 (updated)

weapon level list patches fomod (updated)

cross_fireworkscannon_92a

cross_jetpack v.92

cross_blades_v091a

cross_rugermkv_092a

cross_wasteland_ronin_090b

cross_recall_91d

project mojave flamer spawns on forged and bos - pm flamer boston (updated)

gunner outfit pack (updated)

mgsv pip-boy idroid fx

def_ui iconlibs rescaled and fixed - color

fallui - inventory

def_ui 1.5.1

fallout equestria - the train (reinstall)

cross_mojavemanhunter_090d

cross_vertibirdflightsuit_091

experimental plasma revolver and colt python - xpr and python 1.3 main file archive fix (reinstall)

marked for termination - a terminator-inspired manhunt in the commonwealth - marked for termination

replacer - cross_courser stigidae - courser replacer

thekite_militiawoman_91a

thekite_railroad_handmaiden_091a

nuclear winter - thekite's handmaiden patch

nuclear winter - cross_mojavemanhunter patch

nuclear winter - cross_courderstrigidae patch

muclear winter - cross_brotherhoodrecon patch

uncapped settlement surplus

gorshkoc's builds- red rocket truck stop (transfer settlement)

ase players choice 2.1

settler sandbox overhaul 4.0 esl version

powerarmorhoarder

gorshkov's builds sanctuary hills (transfer settlement)

skkferalnights_003

sanctuary hotsprings (disabled)

art connoisseur system - acs paintings - 2.03

eli's armour collection 3.4 - cbbe

a. courser x-92 power suit no restrictions

apocalypse accessories - cbbe

conveyor belt barriers - main

eli display shelves 1.2 nw fh

dino's decorations - clutter arrangements for your settlements - dinomore v1.1

filled weapon displays

instabell - gamther all settlers instantly - instabell v0.50

pcpo - power conduits and pylons overhaul

tidy settlers 1.1

ground

snap'n build 1.9

sport fields

settlement objects 3

real gen2 female fomod aio

sceejapanesehouse01.rar

deckerspecialist.rar

addonvagtextures.zip

ae replacer gunslinger outfit

ae replacer apocalypse accessories

ae replacer dx adventurer

ae replacer dx chem i care

ae replacer dx commonwealth mini dresses

ae replacer dx courser x-92 power suit

ae replacer eli's rugged outfits

true legendary enemies

true legendary nighstrikers

 

f4se version: 0.6.21

fallout 4 version (i'm assuming build id): 4460038

cloud save turned off

onedrive disabled

cfa never turned on

 

active: 205

light: 590

 

pc specs, also spoiler tagged to conserve space:

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OS Name    Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version    10.0.19043 Build 19043
Other OS Description     Not Available
OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
System Name    DESKTOP-88PE8VI
System Manufacturer    HP
System Model    OMEN by HP Desktop PC 870-2XX
System Type    x64-based PC
System SKU    Z5M59AA#ABA
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz, 3601 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date    AMI F.24, 3/1/2018
SMBIOS Version    3.0
Embedded Controller Version    255.255
BIOS Mode    UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer    HP
BaseBoard Product    830C
BaseBoard Version    1.04
Platform Role    Desktop
Secure Boot State    On
PCR7 Configuration    Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory    C:\WINDOWS
System Directory    C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale    United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "10.0.19041.1151"
User Name    DESKTOP-88PE8VI\reddr
Time Zone    Central Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory    15.9 GB
Available Physical Memory    6.66 GB
Total Virtual Memory    40.8 GB
Available Virtual Memory    22.1 GB
Page File Space    24.8 GB
Page File    C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection    Off
Virtualization-based security    Not enabled
Device Encryption Support    Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions    Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions    Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware    No
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection    Yes

 

graphics card, spoilered as well: 

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Name    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
PNP Device ID    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1B81&SUBSYS_82FB103C&REV_A1\4&FAFBD83&0&0008
Adapter Type    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter Description    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Adapter RAM    (1,048,576) bytes
Installed Drivers    C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhdci.inf_amd64_60bf9ac0cf15087d\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhdci.inf_amd64_60bf9ac0cf15087d\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhdci.inf_amd64_60bf9ac0cf15087d\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvhdci.inf_amd64_60bf9ac0cf15087d\nvldumdx.dll
Driver Version    30.0.14.9613
INF File    oem91.inf (Section019 section)
Color Planes    Not Available
Color Table Entries    4294967296
Resolution    2560 x 1440 x 59 hertz
Bits/Pixel    32
Memory Address    0xDE000000-0xDEFFFFFF
Memory Address    0xC0000000-0xCFFFFFFF
Memory Address    0xD0000000-0xD1FFFFFF
I/O Port    0x0000E000-0x0000E07F
IRQ Channel    IRQ 16
Driver    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERSTORE\FILEREPOSITORY\NVHDCI.INF_AMD64_60BF9AC0CF15087D\NVLDDMKM.SYS (30.0.14.9613, 37.47 MB (39,286,912 bytes), 10/19/2021 4:31 PM)

 

i don't know what is causing my problems or when it started to happen. i'm not missing any master files, i have all esl files flagged as light, i have all esl marked esp files as light.

plugins.txt

Edited October 30, 2021 by IceBlazeWinters

[Papersword]

Do you have Buffout 4 installed? It's script extender plugin. It'll give you a crash log. Also it's required for a decent amount of mods, maybe you missed it.

[IceBlazeWinters]

26 minutes ago, Papersword said:

Do you have Buffout 4 installed? It's script extender plugin. It'll give you a crash log. Also it's required for a decent amount of mods, maybe you missed it.

i do not have that mod, and it's not required for anything that i have

[IceBlazeWinters]

this is the crash report that buffout 4 just gave me, but i don't know anything about it, it confuses me ;.=.;

crash-2021-10-30-21-27-21.log

[IceBlazeWinters]

my newest crash report, after turning on f4ee, memory debug, and input switch (which i turned off cause it broke my controller)

 

 

crash-2021-10-31-02-13-29.log

[Papersword]

2 hours ago, IceBlazeWinters said:

my newest crash report, after turning on f4ee, memory debug, and input switch (which i turned off cause it broke my controller)

 

 

crash-2021-10-31-02-13-29.log 33.97 kB · 0 downloads

Sorry, I was away for the day. So what I know about reading those crash logs: the issue comes from the mod that has the index (load order alphanumeral) 1A. The full record is 1AF8F6A. Check what mod is in that index and see what you can find about it. Are you using Mod Organizer 2? 

PS. This is a good resource for trouble shooting. Additionally, I'd recommend getting Baka Scrap Heap if you don't already have that installed. 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Papersword

[IceBlazeWinters]

i don't have that mod either and i use vortex as my manager

 

according to vortex, load order item 1a, is CaN pony mane pack.

 

fo4edit doesn't register 1AF8F6A

Edited October 31, 2021 by IceBlazeWinters

[IceBlazeWinters]

after installing baka scrap heap

 

added mods: order of fenrir helmet, thekit handmaiden - desdemona replacer, and thekite handmaiden - ae patch

 

still crashing in the main menu

crash-2021-10-31-15-08-59.log

[IceBlazeWinters]

wyre bash says that 1a is crimes against nature flamerunner

 

still can't find that 1AF8F6A

[IceBlazeWinters]

the most recent crash report, still crashing at the main menu

crash-2021-10-31-18-23-48.log

[Papersword]

4 hours ago, IceBlazeWinters said:

the most recent crash report, still crashing at the main menu

crash-2021-10-31-18-23-48.log 36.81 kB · 0 downloads

So the crash logs do mention the Pony BSA. Try unpacking that BSA, or disable the mod and see if you still crash at load. All the logs point to CaN Pony Mane. Also, as far as I know, only MO2 is recommended for AAF. Vortex is alright, but I know the AAF guys pretty much won't debug anything unless you use MO2. 

PS. Oh, can you quote reply to me? I didn't get a notification when you posted, so it took me a bit to check back. Also you can try to disable the CaN Flamerunner too. Sometimes the Index for a mod changes between the mod manager and the game. No idea why. Think it's related to adjusting mod orders mid-game. My Skyrim save sometimes has mismatched RefIDs.

Edited October 31, 2021 by Papersword

[IceBlazeWinters]

16 minutes ago, Papersword said:

So the crash logs do mention the Pony BSA. Try unpacking that BSA, or disable the mod and see if you still crash at load. All the logs point to CaN Pony Mane. Also, as far as I know, only MO2 is recommended for AAF. Vortex is alright, but I know the AAF guys pretty much won't debug anything unless you use MO2. 

PS. Oh, can you quote reply to me? I didn't get a notification when you posted, so it took me a bit to check back. Also you can try to disable the CaN Flamerunner too. Sometimes the Index for a mod changes between the mod manager and the game. No idea why. Think it's related to adjusting mod orders mid-game. My Skyrim save sometimes has mismatched RefIDs.

the only problem with turning it off, is that pretty much every pony mod i have downloaded (fallout equestria 4 and the various mod patches) all require the mane pack

[Papersword]

22 minutes ago, IceBlazeWinters said:

the only problem with turning it off, is that pretty much every pony mod i have downloaded (fallout equestria 4 and the various mod patches) all require the mane pack

Yeah, that makes sense. I kind of figured. Try it though, save your load order in Vortex, turn it off, then just try to load into the main menu. If it works, then at least you have a strong starting point to fix the issue. Otherwise, the typical advice is to go uncheck each of the mods you recently installed to see when the crash stops. 

[IceBlazeWinters]

3 minutes ago, Papersword said:

Yeah, that makes sense. I kind of figured. Try it though, save your load order in Vortex, turn it off, then just try to load into the main menu. If it works, then at least you have a strong starting point to fix the issue. Otherwise, the typical advice is to go uncheck each of the mods you recently installed to see when the crash stops. 

this is what wyre bash said when i did a plugin check on it

 

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= Check Plugins
This is a report of any problems Wrye Bash was able to identify in your currently installed plugins.

Note that all FormIDs in the report are relative to the entire load order. If you want to view these FormIDs in FO4Edit, make sure to load your entire load order (simply accept the 'Module Selection' prompt in FO4Edit with OK).

=== ESL Capable
The following plugins could be assigned an ESL flag.
* crafting framework workbench patcher patch.esp
* FFO-Player-CHEETAH.esp
* FFO-Player-DEER.esp
* FFO-Player-FOX.esp
* FFO-Player-HORSE.esp
* FFO-Player-HYENA.esp
* FFO-Player-LION.esp
* FFO-Player-LYKAIOS.esp
* FFO-Player-TIGER.esp

=== Incorrect ESL Flag
The following plugins have an ESL flag, but do not qualify. Either remove the flag with 'Remove ESL Flag', or change the extension to '.esp' if it is '.esl'.
* WestTekTacticalOptics.esp

=== Cleaning With FO4Edit Needed
The following plugins have deleted references or other issues that can and should be fixed with FO4Edit. Visit the Tome of xEdit for more information.
* America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp:  97 deleted references
* ArmorKeywords.esm:  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* Armorsmith Extended.esp:  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* ccbgsfo4046-tescan.esl:  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* CCOFO4 - Traits and More Perks.esp:  1 deleted reference
* __ccsbjfo4001-solarflare.esl:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp:__  3 deleted references
* __Courser Ghost-Spectre X-92 Armor Mashup.esl:__  2 deleted references
* __CrimeTown.esp:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __DLCCoast.esm:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __DLCNukaWorld.esm:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __DLCRobot.esm:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __DLCworkshop01.esm:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __DLCworkshop02.esm:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __DLCworkshop03.esm:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __DX_Banshee_Recon_Armor.esp:__  3 deleted references
* __DX_Black_Widow.esp:__  2 deleted references
* __Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __Fallout Equestria - The Train.esp:__  1 deleted reference
* __GunnersOverhaul.esp:__  6 deleted references
* __InoueKinkyKollars.esp:__  56 deleted references
* __Kingdingus.esp:__  4 deleted references
* __MV Red Rocket.esp:__  562 deleted references
* __NightstrikerCreatureMod.esp:__  1 deleted reference
* __officersRevolver.esp:__  7 deleted references
* __ProjectMojaveHotFix.esp:__  1 deleted reference
* __Quantum Deathclaws V1.1.esp:__  5 deleted references
* __rxl_bp70_animations.esp:__  1 deleted reference
* __slocumsjoe-extras.esp:__  10 deleted references
* __SOTS.esp:__  831 deleted references
* __SuperMutantRedux.esp:__  Contains dirty edits, needs cleaning.
* __the deadly commonwealth expansion.esp:__  19 deleted references
* __up your arsenal.esp:__  3 deleted references
* __WattzLaserGun.esp:__  1 deleted reference
* __Winter Commonwealth Pines.esp:__  1 deleted reference
* __Winter Redone.esp:__  25 deleted references

=== Deleted Navmeshes
The following plugins have deleted navmeshes. They will cause a CTD if another plugin references the deleted navmesh or a nearby navmesh. They can only be fixed manually, which should usually be done by the mod author. Failing that, the safest course of action is to uninstall the plugin.
* __AA FusionCityRising.esp:__  1 deleted navmesh
* __DrakenVale Manor.esp:__  2 deleted navmeshes
* __Flamehoof Island.esp:__  81 deleted navmeshes
* __MV Red Rocket.esp:__  7 deleted navmeshes
* __OutcastsAndRemnants.esp:__  1 deleted navmesh
* __sectorv.esp:__  2 deleted navmeshes
* __SOTS.esp:__  83 deleted navmeshes
* __Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp:__  6 deleted navmeshes

=== Deleted Base Records
The following plugins have deleted base records. If another plugin references the deleted record, the resulting behavior is undefined. It may CTD, fail to delete the record or do any number of other things. They can only be fixed manually, which should usually be done by the mod author. Failing that, the safest course of action is to uninstall the plugin.
* __Cross_Patch-CourserSuit.esp:__  10 deleted base records
* __Cross_Patch-ExpeditionarySuit.esp:__  8 deleted base records
* __dlcprojectx_mainplugin.esm:__  7 deleted base records
* __Fallout Equestria - The Train.esp:__  1 deleted base record
* __SOTS.esp:__  1 deleted base record
* __VotWMaster.esm:__  1 deleted base record

=== HITMEs
The following plugins have HITMEs (__H__igher __I__ndex __T__han __M__asterlist __E__ntries), which most commonly occur when the Creation Kit or an advanced mode of FO4Edit were used to improperly remove a master. The behavior of these plugins is undefined and may lead to them not working correctly or causing CTDs. Such a plugin is usually beyond saving and mod authors should revert to a backup from before the HITMEs corrupted the plugin. The safest course of action for a user is to uninstall it.
* __ComputerChip.esp:__  124 HITMEs
* __Fallout Equestria Companions.esp:__  86 HITMEs
* __NW_FrozenOnes.esp:__  7 HITMEs

=== Record Type Collisions
The following records override each other, but have different record types. This is undefined behavior, but will almost certainly lead to CTDs. Such conflicts can only be fixed manually, which should usually be done by the mod author. Failing that, the safest course of action is to uninstall the plugin.
* 39000800 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000800] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_AtomicWarlordAA [ARMA:39000800] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000801 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000801] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_DreadInquisitor_Suit [ARMO:39000801] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000802 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000802] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeDreadInquisitor [COBJ:39000802] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000804 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000804] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_GammawalkerHelm [ARMA:39000804] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000805 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000805] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_GammaWalker_Helmet [ARMO:39000805] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900080A from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900080A] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeGammaWalker_Helmet [COBJ:3900080A] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900080B from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900080B] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_BonewalkerHelm [ARMA:3900080B] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900080C from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900080C] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_BoneWalker_Helmet [ARMO:3900080C] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900080E from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900080E] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeBoneWalker_Helmet [COBJ:3900080E] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900080F from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900080F] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Gammawalker_Suit [ARMA:3900080F] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000810 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000810] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_GammaWalker_Suit [ARMO:39000810] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000811 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000811] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeGammawalker [COBJ:39000811] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000812 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000812] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Crimson_Stalker [ARMA:39000812] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000813 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000813] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Crimson_Stalker_Hood [ARMA:39000813] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000814 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000814] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Crimson_Stalker_Hood [ARMO:39000814] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000815 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000815] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Crimson_Stalker [ARMO:39000815] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000816 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000816] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeCrimsonstalker [COBJ:39000816] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000817 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000817] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeCrimsonstalker_Hood [COBJ:39000817] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000818 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000818] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Crimson_Stalker_NS [ARMA:39000818] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39000819 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39000819] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Crimson_Stalker_NS [ARMO:39000819] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900081A from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900081A] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeCrimsonstalker_NoShoes [COBJ:3900081A] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900916C from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900916C] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_ArmLeft [ARMO:3900916C] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900916D from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900916D] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_ArmRight [ARMO:3900916D] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900916E from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900916E] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Helmet [ARMO:3900916E] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900916F from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900916F] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_LegLeft [ARMO:3900916F] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009170 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009170] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_LegRight [ARMO:39009170] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009171 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009171] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Torso [ARMO:39009171] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009172 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009172] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Arm_Left [ARMA:39009172] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009173 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009173] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Arm_Right [ARMA:39009173] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009174 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009174] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Helmet_Helm [ARMA:39009174] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009175 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009175] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Leg_Left [ARMA:39009175] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009176 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009176] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Leg_Right [ARMA:39009176] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009177 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009177] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_Ashland_Torso [ARMA:39009177] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009179 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009179] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeAshlandTorso [COBJ:39009179] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900917A from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900917A] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeAshlandLeftArm [COBJ:3900917A] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900917B from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900917B] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeAshlandRightArm [COBJ:3900917B] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900917C from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900917C] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeAshlandLeftLeg [COBJ:3900917C] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900917D from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900917D] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeAshlandRightLLeg [COBJ:3900917D] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900917E from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900917E] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeAshlandHelm [COBJ:3900917E] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009188 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009188] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_DreadInquisitor_Suit_Defanged [ARMO:39009188] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 39009189 from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:39009189] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_AtomicWarlordAA_Defanged [ARMA:39009189] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 3900918A from SOTS.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:3900918A] from SOTS.esp (base record)
  * CF_RecipeDreadInquisitor_Defanged [COBJ:3900918A] from SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
* 8400511D from FPEAIOCreatureAddon.esp, colliding versions:
  * ME_Release_Mirelurk_Queen_Baby [MGEF:8400511D] from FPEAIOCreatureAddon.esp (base record)
  * FPEAB_Syringe_Chem_Warm_MC [COBJ:8400511D] from INVB_WastelandDairy_Recipes_Single.esp
* FE1A3800 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * ma_ServiceRifle [KYWD:FE1A3800] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * 40MM AIRBURST [PROJ:FE1A3800] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3803 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Grip_StockRifle [MISC:FE1A3803] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * 40MM EMP [PROJ:FE1A3803] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3804 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * mod_SREP_Stock_Rifle [OMOD:FE1A3804] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * 40MM LIQUID NITROGEN [PROJ:FE1A3804] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3805 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * ServiceRifle_AM [AMDL:FE1A3805] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * 40MM HELLFIRE [PROJ:FE1A3805] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3806 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Receiver_Tier0_Auto [MISC:FE1A3806] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * 40MM FLARE [PROJ:FE1A3806] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3808 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  *  [REFR:FE1A3808] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * 40MM FALLOUT [PROJ:FE1A3808] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3809 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Scope_SightsIronGlow [MISC:FE1A3809] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * AMMO 40MM AIRBURST [AMMO:FE1A3809] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A380B from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Receiver_Tier4_SMG45 [MISC:FE1A380B] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * AMMO 40MM EMP [AMMO:FE1A380B] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A380D from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * mod_SREP_Skin_Rusty [OMOD:FE1A380D] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * AMMO 40MM HELLFIRE [AMMO:FE1A380D] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A380E from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * ap_skin_upper [KYWD:FE1A380E] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * AMMO 40MM FLARE [AMMO:FE1A380E] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A380F from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Skin_Woodland [MISC:FE1A380F] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * AMMO 40MM FALLOUT [AMMO:FE1A380F] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3811 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_SkinHandguards_Reddish [MISC:FE1A3811] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * AMMO 40MM LIQUID NITROGEN [AMMO:FE1A3811] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3812 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * mod_SREP_Skin_Handguards_Reddish [OMOD:FE1A3812] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * EXPL 40MM ROUND [EXPL:FE1A3812] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3813 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * s_40_ServiceRifle [KYWD:FE1A3813] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * EXPL 40MM EMP ROUND [EXPL:FE1A3813] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3814 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * WPNServiceRifleFireSemiPlayer [SNDR:FE1A3814] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * EXPL 40MM AIRBURST ROUND [EXPL:FE1A3814] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3816 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * ServiceRifleAutoPlayer [KSSM:FE1A3816] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * EXPL 40MM FALLOUT ROUND [EXPL:FE1A3816] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3818 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Skin_Black [MISC:FE1A3818] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * EXPL 40MM HELLFIRE ROUND [EXPL:FE1A3818] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3819 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * mod_SREP_Skin_Black [OMOD:FE1A3819] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * EXPL 40MM LIQUID NIROGEN ROUND [EXPL:FE1A3819] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A381F from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Receiver_Tier1 [MISC:FE1A381F] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * CO 40MM EMP [COBJ:FE1A381F] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3820 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_Receiver_Tier1_Auto [MISC:FE1A3820] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * CO 40MM AIRBURST [COBJ:FE1A3820] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3821 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * ap_leafsight [KYWD:FE1A3821] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * CO 40MM HELLFIRE [COBJ:FE1A3821] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3822 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * SREP_1CAS_miscmod_mod_ServiceRifle_CarbineM203_Leafsight [MISC:FE1A3822] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * CO 40MM LIQ N2 [COBJ:FE1A3822] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3823 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * mod_SREP_sight_M203Leaf_NULL [OMOD:FE1A3823] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * CO 40MM FALLOUT [COBJ:FE1A3823] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3824 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * mod_SREP_sight_M203Leaf [OMOD:FE1A3824] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * CO 40MM FLARE [COBJ:FE1A3824] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3837 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * co_mod_XM16E1_ColtScope [COBJ:FE1A3837] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * mod_SREP_M203DummyLN [OMOD:FE1A3837] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3838 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * co_mod_XM16E1_Ironsights [COBJ:FE1A3838] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * mod_SREP_M203DummyFlare [OMOD:FE1A3838] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE1A3839 from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp, colliding versions:
  * co_mod_XM16E1_Refresh [COBJ:FE1A3839] from 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp (base record)
  * mod_SREP_M203DummyFO [OMOD:FE1A3839] from 40mm Types.esp
* FE222883 from EnclaveX02.esp, colliding versions:
  * EnchPA_CryoWaveImpact [ENCH:FE222883] from EnclaveX02.esp (base record)
  * co_PA_X02_Torso_Misc_Tesla [COBJ:FE222883] from More Power Armour Mods - X-02.esp
  * co_PA_X02_Torso_Misc_Tesla [COBJ:FE222883] from MPAM X-02 Patch.esp
* FE222927 from EnclaveX02.esp, colliding versions:
  * X02CryoCloak [MGEF:FE222927] from EnclaveX02.esp (base record)
  * PA_X02_Helmet_Headlamp_Blue [OMOD:FE222927] from X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp
* FE22292D from EnclaveX02.esp, colliding versions:
  * miscmod_PA_X02_Arm_R_Cryo [MISC:FE22292D] from EnclaveX02.esp (base record)
  * PA_X02_Helmet_Headlamp_Purple [OMOD:FE22292D] from X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp
* FE22292E from EnclaveX02.esp, colliding versions:
  * miscmod_PA_X02_Leg_R_Cryo [MISC:FE22292E] from EnclaveX02.esp (base record)
  * PA_X02_Helmet_Headlamp_Vaultboy [OMOD:FE22292E] from X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp
* FE22292F from EnclaveX02.esp, colliding versions:
  * miscmod_PA_X02_Leg_L_Cryo [MISC:FE22292F] from EnclaveX02.esp (base record)
  * PA_X02_Helmet_Headlamp_RedTactical [OMOD:FE22292F] from X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp
* FE222930 from EnclaveX02.esp, colliding versions:
  * miscmod_PA_X02_Helm_Cryo [MISC:FE222930] from EnclaveX02.esp (base record)
  * PA_X02_Helmet_Headlamp_Bright [OMOD:FE222930] from X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp

[IceBlazeWinters]

28 minutes ago, Papersword said:

Yeah, that makes sense. I kind of figured. Try it though, save your load order in Vortex, turn it off, then just try to load into the main menu. If it works, then at least you have a strong starting point to fix the issue. Otherwise, the typical advice is to go uncheck each of the mods you recently installed to see when the crash stops. 

this wonderful wall of text, is from the plugin checker in fo4edit

fo4 plugin check.txt

[IceBlazeWinters]

i followed this instructions here in order to do the plugin check https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/3115

 

but i still don't understand any of it

[Papersword]

3 minutes ago, IceBlazeWinters said:

i followed this instructions here in order to do the plugin check https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/3115

 

but i still don't understand any of it

Most of that looks okay. Nothing that's pointing towards the CaN Pony ESM. Exception Access Violations are just the game saying it was trying to load some data and it couldn't. Since it pointed towards the CaN Pony file then it seems that's the issue. Though it could be something that modifies the file, such as the Pony Raiders that popped up in one of the logs. That is an older file, could be the cause. But, yeah I'd say you need to test removing CaN Pony manes, try to start it, then try removing Pony Raiders if that doesn't work, try to start. If that doesn't work then it's removing each mod you installed since the problem started to see when you are able to start the game. 

[Papersword]

4 minutes ago, Papersword said:

Most of that looks okay. Nothing that's pointing towards the CaN Pony ESM. Exception Access Violations are just the game saying it was trying to load some data and it couldn't. Since it pointed towards the CaN Pony file then it seems that's the issue. Though it could be something that modifies the file, such as the Pony Raiders that popped up in one of the logs. That is an older file, could be the cause. But, yeah I'd say you need to test removing CaN Pony manes, try to start it, then try removing Pony Raiders if that doesn't work, try to start. If that doesn't work then it's removing each mod you installed since the problem started to see when you are able to start the game. 

I've also heard of a rare occurrence of having too many archives (BSA files) causing a crash on start up. Unpacking a smaller BSA to lower the limit might fix the issue. Though you really want to keep things packed in BSAs since it helps with the load time of the game. It's just more difficult to know what is overwriting a BSA'd file since it won't show up in a mod manager and any loose files always overwrite archived files. 

[IceBlazeWinters]

1 hour ago, Papersword said:

I've also heard of a rare occurrence of having too many archives (BSA files) causing a crash on start up. Unpacking a smaller BSA to lower the limit might fix the issue. Though you really want to keep things packed in BSAs since it helps with the load time of the game. It's just more difficult to know what is overwriting a BSA'd file since it won't show up in a mod manager and any loose files always overwrite archived files. 

what irks me the most, is that the stupid game was working fine (except for the all too common ctd during gameplay or the problem where the game would just straight up freeze when sleeping) until i downloaded the cross outfits and weapons (handmaiden, recon, archimedes, etc), their ae patches and nuclear winter patches.

 

but those are just outfits, weapons, and crafting patches. so they shouldn't be a problem at all.

 

i honestly don't know what the problem with my stupid game is. and with 209 active files and 584 light files, i REALLY don't want to go through the stuff one at a time.

crash-2021-11-01-01-27-48.log

Edited November 1, 2021 by IceBlazeWinters

[IceBlazeWinters]

most recent crash report and load order

crash-2021-11-01-01-50-20.log plugins.txt

[IceBlazeWinters]

crash-2021-11-01-03-15-48.log

[Papersword]

6 hours ago, IceBlazeWinters said:

crash-2021-11-01-03-15-48.log 43.81 kB · 0 downloads

Your crash logs are all the same. All with that 1A index. I can't quite tell from your replies if you've tried what I've mentioned to do. I can't really help any more if you don't. I'm going to leave you with, essentially, three options to troubleshoot:

 

1. Disable the 1A indexed mod, see if the CTD occurs. If it doesn't then you're going to have to figure out what is causing the issue when it didn't previously. Could be an update to the mod broke it, could be another mod changing the records or interacting with it wrong.

1a. If it stops the CTD then you have a strong understanding of what is causing the problem, but you'll have to go from there to keep the mod. Or, it could be that BSA crash I mentioned. Too many BSA, allegedly, cause a crash. If you have quite a lot of mods, that could be the issue.

 

2. Go through each of the mods you downloaded since the issue arouse and disable one at a time to see if you get the CTD. I thought I saw you said you added more mods to your list as it was still having a CTD. Just try your best to recall when the issue happened and cross reference your CRL-J downloads tab on your browser to see what you might have added in.

3. Post your crash log on the Buffout 4 comments page and hope the Author takes a look at it and can give you a better idea what's going on. 

[Papersword]

9 hours ago, IceBlazeWinters said:

what irks me the most, is that the stupid game was working fine (except for the all too common ctd during gameplay or the problem where the game would just straight up freeze when sleeping) until i downloaded the cross outfits and weapons (handmaiden, recon, archimedes, etc), their ae patches and nuclear winter patches.

 

but those are just outfits, weapons, and crafting patches. so they shouldn't be a problem at all.

 

i honestly don't know what the problem with my stupid game is. and with 209 active files and 584 light files, i REALLY don't want to go through the stuff one at a time.

crash-2021-11-01-01-27-48.log 34.5 kB · 0 downloads

If you have a memory error, there really is no "Safe" mods. Pretty much anything can cause a crash. Usually with clothing mods it's a bad reference or a missing file path. Trust me, anything can cause a CTD. CTD's at launch though are a clear sign that something is obviously broken in a mod (or mod interacting with another one) or something critical is missing. Again, see my above. 

[Papersword]

Oh, lastly, there's also the question of load order. Especially with AE, which has some reputation for causing crashes when in the wrong spot. If you use LOOT, well... I really wouldn't recommend that. I know load order tweaking can be an absolute pain, but knowing what you are installing and where it needs to go is very important. Paying close attention to the mod page. One of the reasons you need to be a little careful not to batch add a tonne of mods at one time. You won't know what is causing an issue like this if you happened to add in twenty mods at once.

[izzyknows]

@IceBlazeWinters Have you tried to launch the game with 0 mods and through the vanilla launcher to make sure it's not a corrupt vanilla file? Verifying local game files through Steam wont detect a corrupted file btw.

 

Also, a quick way to find a bad mod is the 50/50 method.

Disable 1/2 your mods> Load the game (or a vanilla* save if it makes it that far)

If it loads or doesn't, you've just narrowed it down by 50%.

Enable/Disable 1/2 of the suspect batch of mods> Repeat above.

Keep repeating until you get a small number of mods, then disable them one at a time. But after 4 rounds, you should have a pretty darn good idea which one is the party pooper.

 

*vanilla save = A game save that has never seen any mods and was launched via the vanilla launcher before being made.

Edited November 1, 2021 by izzyknows