Atmogenic Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 NOTE : I posted this topic on nexus but its unbelievable on how inactive the forums are for support so I'm copying it here to hope to get support for this issue that has made me stop playing for the past few days. last night after doing the understone keep quest where you're then able to purchase property in markarth, I saw a girl called adara and made her a follower. I then went to visit my new property and made a couple of potions in there before I left and travelled to the sky forge in Whiterun to craft her clothing and did the usual make clothing, weapons and enchanting but for some reason she wasn't equiping the kneesocks i gave her (im using RR Seifuku uniforms) she was only wearing them when i unequipped the blazer I gave her, the kneesocks had armour as I know followers won't equip clothing with no armour rating but the necktie she was wearing doesn't have an armour rating I've tried: disabling her and enabling her resurrecting her training her (by using the train command on EFF) reloading a save from earlier in case something happened using the "showinventory" console command to remove any possible clothing that could be interfering with it But it got worse, I thought it was just her and was just going to say "screw it, she can be the one without the kneesocks" but when I went to the rest of my followers, none of them had kneesocks on i went in their equipment and they were wearing them but it wasn't showing at all on their legs, so I reloaded a save before I gave back the shield to purchase property but they still weren't wearing the kneesocks, not one of them. I have no idea how this has happened suddenly nor have any idea how to sort it out as its affected all my saves. Update : Went on skyrim today and notice not even MYSELF has kneesocks on and when i equip the kneesocks my blazer is unequipped and the kneesocks are not properly attach as they're meant to be, due note that i've done nothing to the body type or anything with clothing so all of this just started 2 days ago out of nowhere. without kneesocks : https://i.imgur.com/it9Gjod.png with kneesocks: (see image attached) What i've done: Reinstalled the mod - failed used LOOT just in case - failed used TES5edit and a clean - failed went back to old saves - some followers did have kneesocks equipped but other and myself didn't please help me as I have no clue how this has happened or how it started as i've not got any new mods since i started my playthrough except weapon stuff load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ArmedttTeeth.esm 7 7 EFFCore.esm 8 8 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a RaceCompatibility.esm 11 b Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 12 c ElinRace.esm 13 d ElinRaceTaint.esm 14 e [INAV] Modern Sword.esp 15 f CrainteVomir.esp 16 10 Bloodthirster.esp 17 11 FFUltimaBladeGizmodianSkyrim.esp 18 12 KvCrystalSword.esp 19 13 Grimsever.esp 20 14 AttTTERAWeapons.esp 21 15 Sword_of_a_Thousand_Truths.esp 22 16 AatroxSword.esp 23 17 Pyke's dagger.esp 24 18 Leona's Zenith Blade.esp 25 19 AbyssalSwordsLE.esp 26 1a Sword Of The Damned.esp 27 1b KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 28 1c UIExtensions.esp 29 1d FISS.esp 30 1e SkyUI.esp 31 1f SkyTweak.esp 32 20 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp 33 21 GlaiceLootMod.esp 34 22 Take All Lose Gold and Arrows.esp 35 23 MrBs-UniqueLootNonDLC.esp 36 24 MoreGold.esp 37 25 25HealthPerLevel.esp 38 26 YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp 39 27 ElinRace__zzCCCHairs.esp 40 28 AFT_NoDances.esp 41 29 TKAA.esp 42 2a AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 43 2b EFFDialogue.esp 44 2c mestructionspellsimproved.esp 45 2d AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 46 2e KS Wigs NonHDT.esp 47 2f Child Follower 2.esp 48 30 Facelight.esp 49 31 ElinRaceVoice.esp 50 32 ElinRace_1InphyHair.esp 51 33 ElinRace_RenHair.esp 52 34 ElinRace_numenume Hair.esp 53 35 ElinRace - ApachiiHair.esp 54 36 bowX30daggerX45.esp 55 37 arcane bow.esp 56 38 SummonFollowers.esp 57 39 RaceMenu.esp 58 3a RaceMenuPlugin.esp 59 3b ElinRace_Voice.esp 60 3c SOSRaceMenu.esp 61 3d XPMSE.esp 62 3e FNIS.esp 63 3f CharacterMakingExtender.esp 64 40 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 65 41 Extended Slider Colors.esp 66 42 Children Fight Back.esp 67 43 SkyrimConfigMenu.esp 68 44 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 69 45 QuickStart3_NoHelmet.esp 70 46 Dart98RockWeaponsPack.esp 71 47 artifact disenchanting.esp 72 48 epiccreaturesskyrim.esp 73 49 Fantasy cities (Weapons only).esp 74 4a winterhold+.esp 75 4b Children can wear all.esp 76 4c MasterEnchanter.esp 77 4d Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp 78 4e NoCobWebsInHouses.esp 79 4f better blacksmithing.esp 80 50 better_fast_travel.esp 81 51 spellpack1.esp 82 52 Hatred Of Dragon.esp 83 53 TERA Weapons.esp 84 54 katanaamr.esp 85 55 HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp 86 56 zuzugs monster mod madness.esp 87 57 pacifist mini-mods collection.esp 88 58 midas magic expanded.esp 89 59 king's test 3.esp 90 5a abundant enchantments.esp 91 5b 10 extra effect.esp 92 5c follower trap safety.esp 93 5d hqsnow.esp 94 5e LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 95 5f purewaters.esp 96 60 lusciousfaces.esp 97 61 unlimited shouts.esp 98 62 schwertleite set.esp 99 63 nofriendlyfire.esp 100 64 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 101 65 hdplants+herbs.esp 102 66 realistic piercing arrows.esp 103 67 communitycollege.esp 104 68 riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp 105 69 azureaurasword.esp 106 6a Guards are Chickens.esp 107 6b Shardblade WIP.esp 108 6c realmshatterweaponpack.esp 109 6d Fate and Volition weapons collections.esp 110 6e MidasSkyrim.esp 111 6f Sylbow.esp 112 70 SwordplayFinishers.esp 113 71 brat_3x_merchants_sp0.esp 114 72 Filthy Rich Merchants.esp 115 73 tbmchrysamere.esp 116 74 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 117 75 brat_pickpockets_sp0.esp 118 76 increasedlootinchests1.0.esp 119 77 spawners_killablechildren.esp 120 78 No Crime Teleport.esp 121 79 new-enchantments.esp 122 7a starseeker.esp 123 7b breezehomeenchanter.esp 124 7c Thor's Mjolnir Smite V0.4.esp 125 7d MainMenu.esp 126 7e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 127 7f SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 128 80 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 129 81 VoidWeapons.esp 130 82 MikuHairElin.esp 131 83 SummonElinRing.esp 132 84 RRSeifuku.esp 133 85 SAP.esp 134 86 EndLives.esp 135 87 spellpack2.esp 136 88 spellpack4.esp 137 89 spellpack3.esp 138 8a a_touhou_loading_screen.esp 139 8b 3 day respawn.esp 140 8c Jewelry limiter.esp 141 8d KS Hairdo's.esp 142 8e ElinRace_ApachiiHairFemales.esp the only mods I got today were swords and that was just TODAY so it was before getting those mods
Grey Cloud Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Atmogenic said: (im using RR Seifuku uniforms) So that mod would appear to be the source of your problems.
Atmogenic Posted January 16, 2021 Author Posted January 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: So that mod would appear to be the source of your problems. Probably but its been absolutely fine for about the 5 days i've been playing skyrim for, no issues whatsoever giving to my followers or myself, it just came out of nowhere i didn't do nothing modifying data with the uniforms as i've said the only things i got which was just yesterday was weapon mods and thats it
RW311 Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 If you can't equip two items at the same time it's because in esp there is an armor slot item conflict as well as very likely a conflict in the biped slot in the nif file. If you can equip two items but one becomes invisible either immediately or after save/load or cell transition then there is a shared slot in the armor addon along with a mirrored priority, winner of visible conflict will change from time to time. - this same feature also can lead to half of a mesh being visible like only seeing the ankle part of a leg armor...
Atmogenic Posted January 17, 2021 Author Posted January 17, 2021 10 hours ago, RW311 said: If you can't equip two items at the same time it's because in esp there is an armor slot item conflict as well as very likely a conflict in the biped slot in the nif file. If you can equip two items but one becomes invisible either immediately or after save/load or cell transition then there is a shared slot in the armor addon along with a mirrored priority, winner of visible conflict will change from time to time. - this same feature also can lead to half of a mesh being visible like only seeing the ankle part of a leg armor... So is there any way to fix it? I looked yesterday with someone having a similar issue and it was to do with SOS and devious devices except I don't have devious devices and only SOS, but on SOS its only your chest plate and not the kneesocks. If you can could you give me a step by step process on how to fix this issue as not only me and my followers are unable to equip the kneesocks but all the kneesocks have enchantments on them for all my followers.
RW311 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 Need links to the mods you have the problems with in order to give any step by step, this would be easier for both of us btw. Otherwise you have to provide information about what is in conflict in the esp and nif for me to tell you how to fix it.
Atmogenic Posted January 18, 2021 Author Posted January 18, 2021 here u go https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/35471/?tab=forum I have no clue for any other mod as it just started out of nowhere but this is the mod with the uniform, blazer, kneesocks, tie and skirt it's just unusually confusing as if this happened right after i installed a clothing mod or I did something with armour or an accessory, then it would give me a clue on what it could be but nothing i've done could've caused this bug. If it was something I did right after i recruited Adara then i would just reload before i met her, but this bug affected all my saves no matter how far back i went and that's what is really strange
RW311 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 The socks are slot 52 so if they are refusing to equip that is a conflict with sos because it uses slot 52. This should fix by going to SOS mcm and setting visible whatever outfit is equipped - in your case you make the blazer revealing for sos and it should solve this. However, sos sometimes refuses to cooperate if you don't have visible sos equipped which you probably don't. So in case that isn't working you can change knee socks slot but you need to change it in armor, armor addon and nif file. I would use slot 53 for socks and knee socks. And just as a warning the skirt used slot 38 which will give you conflict problems with almost any other mods and base game shoes or boots or leggings as they often reserve that slot since by default it is for calves. There is steo by step guide how to do this on general forum here...
Atmogenic Posted January 19, 2021 Author Posted January 19, 2021 thanks i'll try this out, the issue with SOS is if i changed the uniform to revealing wouldn't that affect me and not my followers who are all wearing the same clothing as me? edit: I did the xedit part but the nifscope is completely different to what its showing, this is why tutorials and videos don't work for me because 100% the time i get something completely different then what they're showing in the images or videos. what the tutorial shows: what shows for me: in tutorial after you remove the branch: what I get after i follow that step: I have no "BSTriShape" like its showing in the tutorial so i'm now stuck yet again with an editing tutorial with things, I was hoping with how smoothly things were going i was finally be able to fix it but nope. edit 2: just went on skyrim after just doing the kneesocks slot stuff on xedit where i changed the slot from 52 to slot 53, for some reason i was very high up in the sky above a giant's camp but after i typed in "tfc" i teleported by the skyforge, but still the kneesocks are broken with me having no top and my followers having no kneesocks on
RW311 Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 You are missing the UI panel for block details which is how you see the expanded info, there are buttons in the menu bar that say block list, block details, and header you need to turn turn on block details then that UI box should display and you can drag it to the bottom of the window and it will sticky if it doesn't do it automatically. I can see the buttons on the screenshot from the guide but not from yours but I think your image is resized. If you don't have those buttons go to options/settings/general and press button on bottom that says restore all defaults should get your UI menu to default.
Atmogenic Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 ok i've done that but still no "BStrishape"
RW311 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 IN top menu bar click view then select Block List > Show blocks in tree this will fix your view to match tutorial images. Then in block list which you have at bottom instead of top but it doesn't matter, expand the NITriShapes named socks, click on BSDismemberSkinInstance and in block details expand partitions and click on and edit the one that says Body Part double click on the text that for those socks will say SBP 52 MOD PELVIS SECONDARY and scroll down and change it to 53 or whatever else if you have looked at body parts numbers you would rather use.
Atmogenic Posted January 21, 2021 Author Posted January 21, 2021 I think I've done it right, but it just say's MOD_LEG_RIGHT but does it affect the left leg too or do I have to do something else?
RW311 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 No you're good. That's just the name nifskope gives for the slot and you would only need another slot if you had another mesh, well there are other reasons but useful for more complex outfits than this. Make sure you make the same edits for both the _0 and _1 weight or it will not load the weight morphs for that outfit anymore.
Atmogenic Posted January 22, 2021 Author Posted January 22, 2021 I've saved the changes so now the kneesocks are 53, but the kneesocks doesn't have 2 meshes, do i have to edit the ones in the folder GND that is in the clothing meshes too?
RW311 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 No that is the inventory and ground display model only.
Atmogenic Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 so am I done? since there is not 2 meshes of the clothing have i done everything and now the kneesocks should be fixed and i'm able to play the game normally again? Thank you so much with your patience on helping me, just went on skyrim now where i left it off with no blazer but after unequipping and equipping my kneesocks they're all there including their enchantments
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