erc1971 Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 I recently stumbled across this and have tried both versions (Qarl's original version and the omod version from TESNexus). While both work (and look and look amazing!) they have made Oblivion very unstable. First off I had to re-install Unique Landscapes and Better Cities after installing the texture pack or the game would crash everything I tried to leave the Anvil Docks or the cell just outside the Imperial City Talos Gate (would crash when fast traveling or manually walking out of the cell). However the game is still quite unstable. More often than not fast traveling causes the game to crash. And in addition, the game crashes every 5 minutes or so no matter what I am doing. My computer hardware is up to date and should not be part of the problem - I am running 16 gigs of ram (with the ram booster for oblivion) and a TI 560 2GB RAM video card. Here is my load order in case any of the mods give someone an idea... Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm CM Partners.esm CCC.esm Better Cities Resources.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp CTAddPose_Dsk(erori)Pose.esp CTAddPose_SPB_01.esp CTAddPose_Halo.esp CTAddPose_glock3.esp Chain it!.esp CTAddPose_2ch_(Hentai).esp CTAddPose_OTpair2.esp CTAddPose_Pinups.esp CTAddPose SPB 02.esp CTAddPose_gobu.esp shinyEmotions.esp CM Partners.esp CM Partners NPC NE.esp CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp DADemons.esp DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp DMRA Stock Robe Replacer.esp DMRA Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp R18PN - Dancer's Dress.esp Forestlight Armor.esp 1SB_SisterNightfallOutfit.esp PEDress.esp DMRA BBB Better Cities.esp Iron Maiden Set.esp Dynasty.esp tera_hfh04.esp HGEC_SBVelvetRose.esp PatzyIntnlBikinitops.esp Morshu_special_clothes.esp tera_hf16.esp Knights.esp CB Rogue Armor.esp Lady Flirt.esp Tyrael Armor.esp Colourwheels Sexy & extremely short dress.esp Bloodrayne Armor.esp Lady Elegance.esp EmpressRobes.esp Dress WBBW DMRA+.esp R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp Dungeon Explorer.esp Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp DMwardropemergednoenchant.esp BountyHunter.esp OHTeheavy4.esp OHTErobe3.esp OHTeheavy3.esp OHs&brobe1.esp Armored Princess.esp CB Stylish Outfit.esp Sexy Mandarin Dress.esp CB Elegant Dress.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp BisSP_RHH_2.esp GladiatorHeels.esp RFHighHeels HGEC Vipcxj.esp Exnem Pekka Pumps.esp ElsweyrAnequina.esp MannimarcoRevisited.esp Kani's Elves.esp DemonRace.esp n_Dywyll_Elves.esp CuteElf11.esp DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp Chocolate Elves.esp PlomsOrcOverhaul_HT.esp DesuChan's Dolls.esp Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp CCC.esp zzEstrus.esp AFK_Weye.esp [Calsar] BetterWhiteStallionLodge.esp SB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Modified Version.esp WatersEdgeImproved.esp Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp MidasSpells.esp Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp Alluring Wine Bottles.esp Brighter_Torches.esp Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Vegetation_200%_by_Max_Tael.esp Realistic Water.esp Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp All normal clothes buyable.esp P1DkeyChain.esp Oblivion XP.esp Better Dungeons.esp Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp Alternative Start for Better Cities Fix.esp SW01.esp SWalk.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulArriusCreek.esp AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp ReapersTheDarkTower-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xuldarkforest.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp xulImperialIsle.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulSnowdale.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Better Cities .esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp Thanks, Eric
bigpeto Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 I had same problems that you are having, get rid of unique landscapes that shit will break your game.
erc1971 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Posted August 17, 2012 I had same problems that you are having' date=' get rid of unique landscapes that shit will break your game. [/quote'] Oh, If I have to pick between the 2 - UL is staying I have been playing around with Archive Invalidation settings in OBMM and I think I have improved the stability a bit - I will have to find out later tonight when I play. Eric
Guest ThatOne Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 I've got my version of QTP 3 from here: http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/file/Qarls_Texture_Pack_3;83706/ My computer isn't nearly as good as yours, but doesn't crash with more mods than you have (some of them compressed) and QTP3 installed (and various other retexture mods). If that's where you got your download from, try to redownload, reinstall and see if CTDs continue. If they do, you either have a performance problem (unlikely) or it's a conflict... And I'm not sure what would conflict with QTP3 (as it only adds textures).
gregathit Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 I too run with Qarl's QTP3 mod and I too obtained it from the link that ThatOne gave out. My game very rarely crashes.
erc1971 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Posted August 17, 2012 I too run with Qarl's QTP3 mod and I too obtained it from the link that ThatOne gave out. My game very rarely crashes. Downloading that link now. Out of curiosity - do you both use Unique Landscapes and Better Cities? Thanks, Eric
7th Sinner Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Well, I've encountered the same problem as erc1971 - thanks for the link, I'll try that version of QTP3. I tried to use QTP, Better Cities and UL at the same time and the game just couldn't let me leave the cities, crashing everywhere outside them
gregathit Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 I too run with Qarl's QTP3 mod and I too obtained it from the link that ThatOne gave out. My game very rarely crashes. Downloading that link now. Out of curiosity - do you both use Unique Landscapes and Better Cities? Thanks' date=' Eric [/quote'] I do use Better Cities (set on closed) and OOO. I do not currently use UL as it just was too incompatible with stuff. Seemed I need a patch for this and a patch for that until I just gave up and said the heck with it.
Naynay Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Unique landscapes is far too unstable with so many mods. I don't recommend using it with the number of mods you have.
erc1971 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Posted August 17, 2012 Unique landscapes is far too unstable with so many mods. I don't recommend using it with the number of mods you have. I had Oblivion running nice and smooth with everything up until the Texture pack. Eric
basuras Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Question, have you cleaned some of those mods with tes4edit? Also I see some missing mods, like unofficial DLC patches, Better Cities and Unique Landscapes patches. Since you are now increasing the size of textures to be loaded by the game you will need to adjust your oblivion.ini file to accommodate; using a memory manager like OSR might help in that cause as well. Lastly I would recommend using wyre bash to ensure all those mods work in harmony. http://pastebin.com/XtduYcwB
erc1971 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Posted August 18, 2012 Question' date=' have you cleaned some of those mods with tes4edit? Also I see some missing mods, like unofficial DLC patches, Better Cities and Unique Landscapes patches. Since you are now increasing the size of textures to be loaded by the game you will need to adjust your oblivion.ini file to accommodate; using a memory manager like OSR might help in that cause as well. Lastly I would recommend using wyre bash to ensure all those mods work in harmony. http://pastebin.com/XtduYcwB [/quote'] tes4edit...have never used it before, but I will download and take a look at it. unofficial DLC patchs - downloading the 2 I was missing from TESNexus now. (Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch, and Unofficial Official Mod Patch) Which Better Cities and Unique Landscape patches are you referring to? what adjustment to my .ini file should I make? And I am using Oblivion_RAM_booster-32405. Eric
basuras Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 Hello, Tes4edit should be your priority. http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide#Introduction "Which Better Cities and Unique Landscape patches are you referring to? " Line 182 to 186 of that pastebin link I originally wrote. But those are just from a quick glance of your load order. Perhaps there are more for your specific load order. Please type in google "oblivion Unique Landscapes patches" or something similar with your preferred key words. Results should point to the many patches according to load list. Install the ones you need. example http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/13834 You are running to the highly modified Oblivion game player now; as such you will need to learn Wrye bash. This will allow you to overcome conflicts of mods, remove or prevent certain features from being overwritten, and a whole host of other things. http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/22368 The Ram booster thing your stated makes your game run up to 4g now. But there are still problems with the default memory hashing of oblivion since you now use soo many mods and textures. I would try http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/23208 if crashing persists after mod cleaning, boss re order, and bash patched. As for the ini adjustments, http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_9.html Please save and make backup ini file before making changes. The some tweaks on that link can be harmful. So please read and experiment. Make only one or few changes , play game and test, repeat. Summary: 1. download missing mods patches 2. clean mods with tes4edit 3. fix new load order 4. play new game. test. 5 content? stop. not happy? con't 6. install wrye bash make bash patch. 7. play test. content? stop. not happy? con't 8. make ini tweaks and install OSR 9 play test. etc
erc1971 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Posted August 19, 2012 Looks like I am going to busy for a while. Thanks for all the tutorial links - I had installed TES4Edit and was kind of clueless what to do with it. I will get back to you down the road after playing with all that stuff. Eric
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