Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 /wave Alright, Lets get down to it. Been messing around in 3dmax2012 and NifSkope editing and replacing armors. Really isn't that hard to do and i only started a few days ago. Example Went from: To: Ingame View: My question is Simple How do you actually create a standalone item and not just a replacer? Anyone mind explaining this to me because i can't seem to google it! I know it involves making a esp file (which i don't even know how to make) Programs i have. 3d Studios Max 2012 Nifskope 1.1.0-RC6 Fallout Mod Manager Creation Kit Gimp-2.8 Also on a side note which does involve making standalone items. Seems there are a ton free downloadable models just browsing around. Such as How would i go about making this item load in skyrim like a toy or decoration to put on tables, shelfs, etc? Of course i would give credit where credit is do, But first i gotta figure out how to even add it ingame lol. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment
windpl Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 google tutorial for - Creatiok kit - nifskope - Blender Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Just browsed Google again and came across this tutorial How to add Standalone Armor by: Lateraliss And my god it worked! Now i know how to create Standalone items (Really excited now) Even though the the preview of the armor show's the original mesh and if i dropped it on the ground it's the original (how can i change that?) Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 google tutorial for - Creatiok kit - nifskope - Blender Never used blender due to the fact i could never get the nifscripts to install correctly (Always the wrong version of this or that) Link to comment
windpl Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 CK->item->your armour->world model. Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 CK->item->your armour->world model. ^ Just checked it - Have to make a new nif of the armor by itself due to it loading the unp body along with the mesh (lol) But what about the preview mesh in ? Link to comment
windpl Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I believe that it is same as world model. Also check armoraddon if you have first person (and other) blip set correctly. Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Thank you for the quick reply's I'll go ahead and edit the mesh and remove the unp body, and reposition it to lay on the ground and give it a try. But do you happen to know how to make the Hulk model into a toy like item ingame to place on tables, shelves, etc? Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 -Sadface inserted- Can't seem to get the World Model to load up my Armor Mesh I've tried loading up just the armor without the body. I've tried editing the dragonbonearmorgo.nif But when i load it up in the World Model, Nothing Appears! Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 3d View So... Someone suggested that i copy my nif's NiTriShapeData into the Nif that Skyrim uses. Did that, edited the NiTriShape to read that Data Fixed the texture to show And it loaded up correctly in NifSkope. But he mentioned : *might want to reshape the collision too* and mentioned *don't forget to updte the tangent space after pasting over as well* But i asked what he meant by that and he never responded! Anyone know what he meant by that? Going to try loading it up as is and see what happens. Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Well with what he mentioned i got it to show in my inventory!! But now I'm running into this issue when i drop it. Notice it's hovering in place, Well i also can't highlight it, move it, grab it to put back in my inventory, nothing. I'm assuming this has to do with the collision and the other thing he mentioned. But he still has yet to respond. How do i fix this!! lol I love you :heart: Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Alright, With the Help of micalov over at nexus we solved the problem. Description Preview World View Now I know how to: Edit | Replace | Make Armor Standalone | Make a Description Preview and a World Model. Hopefully you will see some mods by me in the coming days. Link to comment
Vioxsis Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Do you mind parting with your newly acquired wisdom? Every time i have attempted a world model they end up invisible. I can't find a good guide anywhere Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Do you mind parting with your newly acquired wisdom? Every time i have attempted a world model they end up invisible. I can't find a good guide anywhere Well it's tricky really. Hopefully you already extracted the meshes and textures from the Skyrim - Mesh And Texture BFA files using Bsa Browser from Fallout Mod Manager somewhere on your desktop. Should have all the meshes and textures from the game in their own folders ( I named the mesh folder Meshes and the texture folder textures ) Nifskope 1 - have your armor loaded Nifskope 2 - have a premade world mesh (example meshes/armor/dragonbone/dragonbonearmorgo.nif) Note: In Nifskope 2 it helps if you have Draw Nodes and Draw Havok clicked in the render option Now in Nifskope 1 what you wanna do is click on your armor (NiTriShape will be highlighted now in block list) Lower that to see NiTriShapeData With NiTriShapeData Highlighted u wanna ctrl c or rightclick/block/copy branch Now click on Nifskope 2 Click on the armor mesh shown (NiTriShape will be highlighted now in block list) Lower that You will see It already has a NiTriShapedata. With that highlighted you want to ctrl+del or rightclick/block/removebranch Omg' date=' The Armor Disappeared! Now what you wanna do is highlight NiTriShape again and ctrl+V or rightclick/block/pastebranch Omg the armor Appeared (If it's missing textures you just have to reapply them thru the BSLightingShaderProperty) But notice how the NiTriShapeData is now under NiAlphaProperty That's because its not assigned to anything. So click NiTriShape (aka the armor) In block details (at the bottom of the screen) scroll down until you see Data Notice in value it says None, click on none and name the value to whatever the NiTriShapeData is (Mine was 10) so i put 10 as the value Poof! Now your armor is assigned Save As dragonbonearmorgo.nif or whatever you want to a folder I put mine where my armor is saved in SteamApps\common\skyrim\Data\meshes\armor\xratedDpChest Now in the Creation kit. Load your armor esp as a active file Go into Armor Find your Armor Edit your Armor Go to Male World Preview and click edit on Armor\Dragonbone\DragonboneArmorGO.nif Now under Model File Name Click Edit again Find the dragonbonearmorgo.nif you just made and open it mine was in SteamApps\common\skyrim\Data\meshes\armor\xratedDpChest Hopefully you see your armor in the rendor window somewhere. Save your esp. Test it out ingame. Add the armor, try it on. see if it loaded in the description preview, then drop the item Now if you have any problems like when you drop it from your inventory and it doesn't fall all the way to the ground, or you can't highlight the armor after it falls to the ground or u can highlight it but it's like a mile away from the armor. Example A [img']http://i.imgur.com/WxILf.jpg[/img] You have to go back into nifskope, load up your new dragonbonearmorgo.nif right click on the armor in the rendor window, highlight transform, click edit and in translation move your armor around with xyz closer to the little box and blue wireframe looking thing (Reason we turned on Draw Nodes and Draw Havok in the render option). rotate it around a bit save. check it ingame (the nice thing about editing it and saving is you actually dont have to close out skyrim, just lower it. edit it, save and toss it back on the ground to see the changes. and keep messing around with the trasformation in nifskope until you get it right ingame) Now I explained this while I'm dead tired. Hopefully this helps you, But I'll be going over it later on to make sure everything i said is actually correct and hopefully you don't run into any problems (but u can try this out and let me know how it goes) Also I'll clean this up once i make sure everything is right, because my god this is a mess lol. I might even make a pic related tutorial. Hope this helps, if not i'll help you fix it later on. God i hope i don't have to work today Link to comment
roddinready Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Ive made a custom body from body slide with extra presets and have nifskope and blender,but noob I am ,I wanted to change bust on any custom armor to my models bust,I know you have to do some steps to get nif file custom imported into blender {have 3dmax 2011 too} with nif script, ive read you do it with nifskope ,got to be somewhat simple any help would be appreciate,, alot of armor mods come close to my models bust but to customize it would be awesome!!! a simple task lol, but trying find tutorial for this simplified for lil ole me, just one piece of armor the bust-thanks for time to read. Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Ive made a custom body from body slide with extra presets and have nifskope and blender' date='but noob I am ,I wanted to change bust on any custom armor to my models bust,I know you have to do some steps to get nif file custom imported into blender {have 3dmax 2011 too} with nif script, ive read you do it with nifskope ,got to be somewhat simple any help would be appreciate,, alot of armor mods come close to my models bust but to customize it would be awesome!!! a simple task lol, but trying find tutorial for this simplified for lil ole me, just one piece of armor the bust-thanks for time to read. [/quote'] Well i don't use Blender, Always ran into a problem with installing the nifscripts. You can pick up nifscripts for 3dmax2011 at 3ds Max Nif Importer-Exporter by: figment As for customizing | editing armor's to fit my preferred body type i used this tutorial Creating Custom Armors Step by Step by: Nightasy Hope this helps you out Link to comment
Vioxsis Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I have followed what you said, i tried importing the trishape in to many different world nifs, i have tried making one from scratch a few times and they all end up invisible. Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 I have followed what you said' date=' i tried importing the trishape in to many different world nifs, i have tried making one from scratch a few times and they all end up invisible. [img']http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx274/chaosliger/ff-1.jpg[/img] I'm going to be redoing this myself and taking note (and pics) to everything i do. I'll try and have it up soon. I was extremely tired when i tried to explain it Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Alright, I been up the past few hours Doing a Step by Step Tutorial on how to make a Description & World Preview of your Armor with a picture guide. I'll have it up shortly for your viewing pleasure Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Update: 7-19-12 Will Finish Tutorial Soon Tutorial: How to make your own Description & World Preview of your Armor (With Picture References!) Programs Needed Fallout Mod Manager NifSkope Creation Kit Also Basic Knowledge of how these programs work ---------------------------------------------- First off (If you haven't yet) Load up Fallout Mod Manager - Tools - BSA BrowserOpen Skyrim - Meshes Bethesda File Archive (.bsa)Extract all to Desktop Now Let's Begin Today we will be using this Wedding Dress as a example. which can be found herehttp://www.mediafire.com/?oqaxgxszpfd6imm (Sadly this was just a replacer so i had to make my own standalone version) To Learn how to make your Own Standalone Version visithttp://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6677/ Load up NifSkope 2 Times and place them side by side. In NifSkope 1 (On the left) Load up Your Armor(Example) is located in skyrim\Data\meshes\clothes\weddingdressWhat you want to load is outfitf_1.nif Important Message(The Reason you loaded up outfitf_1 and not outfit_0 is because Skyrim is stupid and that is all i can really say. Could cause problems if you load _0.nifs) Now with NifSkope 2 (On the Right) we need to load a Premade World Preview(I used the Female Bar Keeper as a Example)which can be found in desktop\meshes\clothes\barkeeper\f (assuming you extracted the bsa files to your desktop) Torsognd.nif is what your looking for Now the fun begins Go back to NifSkope 1 (On the Left) Click on the armor in the render windowYou will notice when you did that, in the Block List #1 NiTriShape was highlighted in blue. Lower that in the Block List and you will see #2 NiTriShapeDataClick on NiTriShapeData and hit Ctrl + C or Right Click with your mouse on NiTriShapeData and a box will appear. Hover Over Block and Left Click on Copy Branch. Go into NifSkope 2 (On the Right) Click on Render which is next to File View Spells and make sure Draw Nodes and Draw Havoks are clicked on. Now...Click on the Armor in the rendor windowJust like before #6 NiTriShape was Highlighted BlueBut this time hit Ctrl + V or Right-click your mouse on NiTriShape, hover over block and Left Click on Paste Branch. Now you will see A New #11 NiTriShapeData Appeared in the Block List at the bottom (Under #10 NiAlphaProperty)Now Lower #6 NiTriShape wait a min! I see #7 NiTriShapeData under #6 NiTriShape! Well, that is because #7 is the model in the render window.What you want to do now is delete #7. So Right Click on #7 NiTriShapeData hover over Block and Left Click Remove Branch Omg! The Armor Disappeared in the Render Window!!! Don't panic. That is because no data is assigned to #6 NiTriShape. Ok, Now we Click on #6 NiTriShape in the Block List. At the bottom of NifSkope You will Notice Block Details.Scroll thru Block Details until you see Data and Click it. (Please Make Sure #6 NiTriShape is still highlighted in blue) You will notice for the Value it says: None. Lets change that!Double Click on Value and Type in 10 (10 is the number of the new NiTriShapeData we put in) and hit Enter. *Poof* Your Armor Should of Appeared in the Render Window! Now lets assign some textures.In Block List Lower #7 BSLightingShaderProperty and you will see #8 BSShaderTextureSet. Click #8In Block Details (At the Bottom) Lower Textures. Apply Your Textures Example's Textures are located in skyrim\Data\textures\clothes\Naihaan\Arwen\WB Shoot.. While were at it Let's Rename it so it's not called BarKeeperFGND Click on #0 BSFadeNode in the Block List and look at Block Details.Double Click Value txt BarKeeprFGND [0] and Rename it to whatever. example xWD and hit ok Update: 7-19-12 Will Finish Tutorial Soon Link to comment
Vioxsis Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Thank you very much your beautifully written, well formatted tutorial helped me greatly and showed me where i was going wrong. Only about 150 more to do Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Thank you very much your beautifully written' date=' well formatted tutorial helped me greatly and showed me where i was going wrong. [img']http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx274/chaosliger/thanks.jpg[/img] Only about 150 more to do And i didn't even finish the tutorial yet! But I'm glad i could help you out. (Just curious, what were you doing differently that was causing the issue?) And 150 more pieces? Sounds like fun lol Now i gotta get ready for work then finish this Tutorial up when i get home Link to comment
Guest Lady Luck Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 hello and welcome to loverslab i'm gonna compile you with list of tutorial how to add custom models adding custom models in bethesda require certain software 1. Blender or 3dsmax 2. Nifskope 3. Photoshop 4. Creation kit Tutorial Video 1#: Custom Weapon / Armor [video=youtube] Tutorial Video 2#: Weapon [Model+Textures+Import] part1 [video=youtube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hYHj2Dy49s Tutorial Video 2#: Weapon [Model+Textures+Import] part2 [video=youtube] Tutorial Video 2#: How to Get Custom Armor Into Skyrim pt. 1 [video=youtube] Now each video on this youtube will explain small amount of tips , if you want to find more. Link to comment
Rated X Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 hello and welcome to loverslab i'm gonna compile you with list of tutorial how to add custom models adding custom models in bethesda require certain software 1. Blender or 3dsmax 2. Nifskope 3. Photoshop 4. Creation kit Tutorial Video 1#: Custom Weapon / Armor [video=youtube] Tutorial Video 2#: Weapon [Model+Textures+Import] part1 [video=youtube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hYHj2Dy49s Tutorial Video 2#: Weapon [Model+Textures+Import] part2 [video=youtube] Tutorial Video 2#: How to Get Custom Armor Into Skyrim pt. 1 [video=youtube] Now each video on this youtube will explain small amount of tips ' date=' if you want to find more. [/quote'] domgar, I do appreciate your reply. But it's a tad late If you read thru pages you would have noticed i figured out everything i needed to know and then some. Right now I'm creating a Tutorial (Found on Page 2) Explaining How to Make a Description & World Preview of *Your Armor* And I just learned something just moments ago! For Your Viewing Pleasure. I introduce to you. (drum roll please) The Hulk (Toy)!!!! (Don't mind the name, location, etc. I gotta make some changes before i release this as a downloadable mod) Link to comment
roddinready Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Ive made a custom body from body slide with extra presets and have nifskope and blender' date='but noob I am ,I wanted to change bust on any custom armor to my models bust,I know you have to do some steps to get nif file custom imported into blender {have 3dmax 2011 too} with nif script, ive read you do it with nifskope ,got to be somewhat simple any help would be appreciate,, alot of armor mods come close to my models bust but to customize it would be awesome!!! a simple task lol, but trying find tutorial for this simplified for lil ole me, just one piece of armor the bust-thanks for time to read. [/quote'] Well i don't use Blender, Always ran into a problem with installing the nifscripts. You can pick up nifscripts for 3dmax2011 at 3ds Max Nif Importer-Exporter by: figment As for customizing | editing armor's to fit my preferred body type i used this tutorial Creating Custom Armors Step by Step by: Nightasy Hope this helps you out Thank you!!!!!! i have nifskripts in 3dmax and will check this out!!!! am looking into blender too!! any help please;) Link to comment
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