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[Help] Estrus Chaurus+ and MNC causing issues in game


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So Estrus Chaurus+ and More Nasty Critters are causing problems to my game. Problems range from corrupted save and saves crashing. Most of the instance I've noticed occur when I'm outside, like Rorikstead. However they aren't limited to it, sometimes they also occur when I'm inside a cell.
 
Here is my load order. Mod Organizer churns it out upside down though. I've check them using LOOT and noticed no dirty edits on anything.
 
+MorrowLoot Ultimate
+Deadly Combat - Deadly Combat 4_01
+HDT Breast And Butt Physics - TBBP BBP Supported
+HDT Physics Extensions
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-
+KS Hairdos - Renewal
+Archery Gameplay Overhaul
+EstrusForSkyrim
+Creature Framework 1.0.4
+Estrus Chaurus v4.21
+SexLab Nude Creatures v3.2.4
+MoreNastyCritters9 0
+NSAP3.1
+SexLab Romance V1.0.6
+SLAL AnimationsByLeito v1
+SLAnimLoader
+TESMUSIC
+SL Defeat v5.3.3
+Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul
+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade
+Extensible Follower Framework
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC
+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
+Improved closefaced helmets
+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade
+PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+ESO Daedric Armor RELOAD by NewerMind43
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+Crash fixes
+When Vampires Attack
+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper
+Skyrim Immersive Creatures
+The Paarthurnax Dilemma
+JContainers
+Ultimate HD Fire Effects
+Better Dialogue Controls
+Realistic Needs and Diseases
+Better Stealing
+Guard Dialogue Overhaul
+Run For Your Lives
+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles
+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod
+Convenient Horses
+Immersive Patrols
+Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival
+Pure Waters
+Skyrim - Enhanced Camera
+Wet and Cold
+Campfire - Complete Camping System
+Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim
+The Eyes Of Beauty
+Fuz Ro Doh
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+SexLabFramework v161b FULL
+Immersive Weapons
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer
+RaceMenu
+SOS
+BodySlide and Outfit Studio
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads
+SkyUI
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
*Unmanaged: quest_pitfighter_dlc01
*Unmanaged: quest_pitfighter
*Unmanaged: tos_granitehall
*Unmanaged: tos_oakwood_hf


 
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MO doesn't 'churn' it out upside down! Post your "loadorder.txt" from your profile directory. (Or better still just cut and paste it into your post within a spoiler tag).

 

i.e. it's somewhere like  <drive>:\Program Files (x86)\Mod Organizer\profiles\<your profile>\loadorder.txt

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MO doesn't 'churn' it out upside down! Post your "loadorder.txt" from your profile directory. (Or better still just cut and paste it into your post within a spoiler tag).

 

i.e. it's somewhere like  <drive>:\Program Files (x86)\Mod Organizer\profiles\<your profile>\loadorder.txt

Oh hey, I learn something new then. Mind helping me with my problem?

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Campfire.esm
EFFCore.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
tos_granitehall.esp
quest_pitfighter.esp
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
tos_oakwood_hf.esp
SkyUI.esp
FNIS.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
WetandCold.esp
Purewaters.esp
Frostfall.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
ESO Daedric Armor by NewerMind43.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
MUSIC.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
MLU - No Combat Boundaries.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp

zzEstrus.esp

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Umm? are you actually sure your MO load order has been LOOT applied? That's to say in my experience CreatureFramework.esm usually comes immediately below Sexlab.esm, and the SexlabNudeCreatures/CreaturesDB/CreaturesDG usually are way up the list of esp's, (usually not that far down from the end of the .esm's).

 

Also zzEstrus.esp isn't needed for EC+. That's to say EC++ just needs it's assets, (so you could shift, in MO, the zzEstrus.esp into the optional folder - saves an esp slot). Saying that, (and as you have zzEstrus.esp enabled), do you get an Estrus animation in game if you use one of the Estrus spells?

 

Also Also, you don't have a TES5Merged patch. Think of the esp's being basically a stack of records. The lower ordered ones are overwritten by the higher ones. The TES5Merged patch will apply, (more or less in a sensible fashion), changes to applicable records from various esp's, rather than the highest one in your load order winning out. (This is not the same as a bashed patched which primarily does leveled lists. OK yes it does other things as well, but then again a TES5Merge patch does leveled lists as well - just not as nuanced in that respect though, but totally usable).

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Umm? are you actually sure your MO load order has been LOOT applied? That's to say in my experience CreatureFramework.esm usually comes immediately below Sexlab.esm, and the SexlabNudeCreatures/CreaturesDB/CreaturesDG usually are way up the list of esp's, (usually not that far down from the end of the .esm's).

 

Also zzEstrus.esp isn't needed for EC+. That's to say EC++ just needs it's assets, (so you could shift, in MO, the zzEstrus.esp into the optional folder - saves an esp slot). Saying that, (and as you have zzEstrus.esp enabled), do you get an Estrus animation in game if you use one of the Estrus spells?

 

Also Also, you don't have a TES5Merged patch. Think of the esp's being basically a stack of records. The lower ordered ones are overwritten by the higher ones. The TES5Merged patch will apply, (more or less in a sensible fashion), changes to applicable records from various esp's, rather than the highest one in your load order winning out. (This is not the same as a bashed patched which primarily does leveled lists. OK yes it does other things as well, but then again a TES5Merge patch does leveled lists as well - just not as nuanced in that respect though, but totally usable).

Yeah, I applied loot but the thing is that it doesn't automatically reorganizes the load order unlike how when I only used NMM. I'll try changing the load order manually and report back.

 

Not sure why but in MO i disabled the zzEstrus plugin so I'm not sure why it shows up.

 

Interesting would it actually help though? I'll give it a try.

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I managed to find a conflicting file with EC+ and MNC: Convenient Horses. 

 

I thought because I managed to load back that save and that it solved the problem. However problem still persist even after with a new save a few clicks away from the original save.

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Campfire.esm
EFFCore.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SkyUI.esp
FNIS.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Frostfall.esp
quest_pitfighter.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
MUSIC.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Purewaters.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
MLU - No Combat Boundaries.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 

 

 

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