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EDIT: Go ahead and close this.  Testing with another new game shows that, at least at the very start of gameplay, the issue doesn't yet exist.  The problem is baked into my current save.  Thanks to all that took the time to read my original post.

 

Correction to the title/issue - the brawl quest doesn't start until the PC and NPC begin to pair up for sex animation.  The only way I know that is that nearby NPC's begin the heckling dialog they do during brawl events.

 

 

I'm having a strange issue with brawling.  Brawl dialog seems to instantly take the losing path (lose 100g, no brawl), but that isn't the case.  It turns out that after the brawl diaglog, I have to initiate and complete a sex act with the target somehow, then the brawl starts afterwards.  At first I thought it was Sexlab Solutions trumping the quest, but removing that mod didn't change the behavior.

 

The Dibella Defender and Dibella collection quests are both active on my character.  Not a vampire, werewolf or custom race.  Succubus is active via PSQ, but issue existed before I activated that (Succubus was active via Hormones quest before, however).

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Falskaar.esm
06  Wyrmstooth.esp  [Version 1.16]
07  ApachiiHair.esm
08  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.61]
09  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
0A  ApachiiHairMales.esm
0B  SharedSeranaDialogue.esm
0C  OblivionHairPackAIO.esm
0D  Obl-VB hair.esm
0E  CreatureFramework.esm  [Version 1.0.0]
0F  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
10  EFFCore.esm
11  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.6]
12  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
13  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
14  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
15  Gray Fox Cowl.esm
16  moonpath.esm
17  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
19  daymoyl.esm
1A  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.3]
1E  PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
1F  HighResTexturePack01.esp
20  HighResTexturePack02.esp
21  HighResTexturePack03.esp
22  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
23  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
24  SkyUI.esp
25  Apropos.esp
26  RaceMenu.esp
27  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
28  RaceMenuOverlays.esp
29  RaceMenuMimic.esp
2A  XPMSE.esp
2B  AchieveThat.esp
2C  Volrath - Enhanced Lights and Fixes.esp
2D  3DNPC.esp  [Version 3.18]
2E  northern_encounters2.esp
2F  Purity.esp
30  FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
31  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
32  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2b]
33  Mighty Magick Skyrim - Main.esp
34  hydra_slavegirls.esp
35  SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
36  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2a]
37  EBS - Ingredients (Weightless).esp
38  EFFDialogue.esp
39  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
3A  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
3B  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
3C  FNISSexyMove.esp
3D  EBS - Potions (Weightless).esp
3E  UnreadBooksGlow.esp  [Version 2.2.0]
3F  iActivate.esp
40  InvisEyeFixes.esp
41  BetterMagesGuild.esp
42  Rebirth Monster.esp
43  Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp  [Version v1]
44  HentaiCreatures.esp
45  BDSICHC.esp
46  InvestedMagic.esp
47  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
48  Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
49  SkyrimSewers.esp  [Version 4.12]
4A  OwningGoldenglowEstate.esp
4B  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
4C  Mighty Magick Skyrim - Artifacts.esp
4D  Cloaks.esp
4F  dawnguard sentries.esp
50  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
51  moonpath_questdata.esp
52  Ars Metallica - Legendary Edition.esp
53  Size Does Matter HF.esp
54  DragonbornAscendant.esp
55  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
56  Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
57  Brawl Bugs CE.esp
58  Animated Dragon Wings.esp
59  Command Dragon.esp
5A  Thugs.esp
5B  SlaveTats.esp
5C  UIExtensions.esp
5D  360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
5E  DibellanDefender.esp
5F  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
60  EBS - Soul Gems (Named).esp
61  EBS - Food (Weightless).esp
62  MoreNastyCritters.esp
63  P1FlyingRing.esp
64  Mighty Magick Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp
65  Perks Unbound - Helmless Warrior - Merged.esp
66  Mighty Magick Skyrim - Dragonborn Artifacts.esp
67  DGInvestedMagic.esp
68  More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Merged.esp
69  Immersive Patrols II.esp
6A  MiraakFollower.esp  [Version 1.7]
6B  HeroineDistress.esp
6C  Jotunheim.esp
6D  Marriable Serana.esp  [Version 1.6.2]
6E  DibellasRecruit.esp
6F  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
70  SexLab_Dialogues.esp
71  WheelsOfLull.esp
72  TimingIsEverything.esp
73  Seductress Serana.esp
74  Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
75  Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp
76  BlackreachRailroadNew.esp
77  Deviously Enslaved.esp
78  Blaze Of Eventide.esp
79  disenchantment_font.esp
7A  SexualizedBlaze.esp
7B  fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp  [Version 1.0]
7C  OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp
7D  dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp
7E  MzarkWonders.esp
7F  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
80  arnima.esp
81  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.9]
82  SexLab_Hormones.esp
83  bhabhilon.esp
84  Sexual Vampire Feed.esp
85  Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
86  Vampirelordroyal.esp
87  VRHood.esp
88  Marriable Serana HF.esp  [Version 1.6.2]
89  castlevolkihar_redux_3.esp
8A  Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp
8B  Better Vampires.esp
8C  BVandRB_Formlist.esp
8D  BoundArmors.esp
8E  UD_Serana.esp
8F  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
90  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
91  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
92  dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
93  dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
94  IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp
95  WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp
96  Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp
97  SexLabTools.esp
98  Aethernautics.esp
99  summersetisles.esp
9A  keeperpossiblefix.esp
9B  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
9D  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp
9E  BreezehomeEnchantingTable.esp
9F  BDIC.esp
A0  sr_FillHerUp.esp
A1  EstrusChaurus.esp
A2  EstrusSpider.esp
A3  SexLabUtil1.esp
A4  SexLab Cumshot.esp  [Version 1.7.2]
A6  SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
A7  Bound Weapons.esp
A8  JiubQuestMarkers.esp
A9  AddItemMenu.esp
AA  dcc-follow.esp
AB  DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
AD  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
AE  SAM - Shape Atlas for Men.esp
AF  SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp
B0  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
B1  FNIS.esp
B3  Quieter Dungeons and Caves.esp
B4  NIOVHH.esp
B5  JaxonzBlinkTeleport2.esp
B6  Devious Deviants.esp
B7  Devious Devices - Equip.esp
B9  SAM - Dawnguard Patch.esp
BA  Shaydows VampireLord Replacer OVERHAUL.esp
BB  SAM - setpqv.esp
BC  RaceMenuMorphsSAM.esp
BD  No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp
BE  Traps Are Dangerous.esp
BF  Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
C0  FISS.esp
C1  Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp
C2  Tentacle Parasite.esp
C3  zarias_restraints.esp
C4  KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
C5  Northern Bathhouses.esp
C6  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Merged.esp
C7  BijinAIO-2016_3.1.esp
C8  sr_FillThemUp.esp
CB  SAM - Moonlight Tales Essentials Patch.esp
CC  SimpleSlavery.esp
CD  Prison.esp
CE  RavenBeakPrisonAddon.esp
CF  xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
D0  xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
D1  Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp
D2  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.2]
D3  Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
D4  Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp
D5  Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp  [Version 2.1]
D6  Skyrim_Merged_ENB_Fixes.esp
D8  SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch_Merged.esp
D9  SimplyKnock.esp
DC  Devious Cidhna.esp
DD  BDVanillaCritters.esp
DF  YBsexlab.esp
E0  SLAnimLoader.esp
E1  SexLabDBBeds.esp
E4  sanguinesDebauchery.esp
E5  SD Cages.esp  [Version 2.5]
++  99.esp
++  Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp
EB  BetterMagesGuildAddon.esp
EC  WetFunction.esp
ED  ZaZHDTWorkshop.esp
EE  SLALAnimObj.esp
EF  Scent of Sex.esp
F0  FootIKOffSpell.esp
F1  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F2  Unbashed Patch.esp
F3  Notverigud Nordic Carved Bikini.esp

 

 

The ++ items are merged into the bashed patch.  The gaps in the load order are empty spacers (empty mods created with Wrye Bash) as loadorder placeholders when I removed a mod in the past.  My current playthrough was started with this exact load order, except I added the PSQ mod after I realized I forgot to include it at the beginning (SLHormones triggered Succubus flag).

 

The "unbashed" patch listed is a custom override patch, similar to bashed patch, that I created in TES5Edit to deal with minor mod conflicts that the bashed patch didn't include/support (filter conflict losers in TES5Edit).  I tried a brawl without the unbashed patch as well, but no change.  Either it's baked into my save or something else is causing this.

 

I'm just hoping someone can take a look at my load order and maybe recognize a mod that has a known issue with brawling?

 

Thanks for any advice you may have.

 

 

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