ChibiSektor Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Hello i'm having trouble with load order.can anyone take a look. i keep getting a CTD. This is from the Left side or (modlist.txt) of MO +Alternate Start - Live Another Life+Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul+Atlas Map Markers for Skyrim Blackreach Dawnguard and Dragonborn-RS Patch for ETaC Complete plus DBS+ETaC Complete - Patch+Skyproc - Automatic Variants+Skyproc - Maximus Perkus+SKSE - Character GEN+Fnis - HDT High Heels+Fnis - Fix 2+Caliente's overwrite+Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO+Make any child your follower+Realistic Needs and Diseases 2.0+UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul Compatibility Version+UFO - Dragonborn AddOn+UFO - Dawnguard AddOn+UFO - Heartfire AddOn+UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul+4k Parallax Mines by Pfuscher+Detailed Rugs+Ultimate HD Fire Effects+Embers HD K Edition+The Ruffled Feather+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures -Towns+Realistic Water Two+Skyrim_Particle_Patch_for_ENB--All-In-One+SkyFalls + SkyMills+Static Mesh Improvement Mod-MX ForestGrass01+Skyrim Flora Overhaul+Verdant 2.0a - Full Version+Immersive Roads+Tamriel Reloaded HD - Texture 4k+Tamriel Reloaded HD+PP Whiterun Skyrim HD2K+Interesting NPCs - Nernies Thief Pack+3DNPC-Dawnguard-Realistic Teeth+3DNPC-Realistic Teeth+3DNPC - Alternative Locations+Interesting NPCs - For Vampire+3DNPC V.3.16+3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn+3DNPC+Bijin Warmaidens+Bijin Wives+Bijin Warmaidens CBBE-TBBP Body+Bijin NPCs+Inconsequential NPCs V 1.9-SUM - SkyProc Unified Manager+Follower Compatibility+Fuz Roh Doh plugin+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2+Dynamic Follower Dialogue - DFD+Sands of Time Sleeping Encounters Standalone Module+PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions+Hvergelmir's Armor Retexture - HAR+Apophysis Dragon Priest Masks+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures+Trade and Barter+Pretty Sit Idle v1.41c-Husky 2k Variants - An Automatic Variants Package-Automatic Variants for Critters-Cuter Animal Retextures Automatic Variants-Grace Darklings Automatic Variants Texture Packs-6 Mudcrabs for Automatic Variants+Gamwich's Textures for PNP+Steel Nord Plate Bikini Armor v2+aMidianBorn Steel Plate Armor+Witcher 3 Yennefer and Triss armors+Scarlet Dawn Armor - CBBEv3 - UNP - 7B Cleavage BBP - CBPE - UNPB BBP+VampireBrideRobes+LeatherBearSkirt+Vindictus Leather Armor+EQUIPABLE SOS B3lisario HDTMLinked+Alternate Blade of Woe - Model replacer+Alternate Blade of Woe+Akavari Katana Reborn Optional+Akavari Katana Reborn+SG Female Textures Renewal+Immersive Armor - Child Playable+HDT Cape Optional 4K retexture+Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT+BDO Kibelius v1+RS Childern - Clothes LE+RS Childern - Clothes+Immersive Weapons+HealerClothes+Immersive Armors+Skyrim Subsurface Scattering Patch for ENB+Capes with HDT physics+Wearable Lanterns+Various guard outfits for Every cityTS Edition+ETaC Complete+JK Markarth+JK Solitude+JK Riften+JK Windhelm+JK Whiterun V. 1.1+SG Female Textures Renewal Elfs+Hearthfire multiple adoptions+RS Patch for Inconsequential NPCs+The Ultimate NPC Overhaul+Khajiit Child Maisha Additional Version+Ram-Ku-Argonian boy+Ma-Rakha-Khajiit boy+RSChildren - Override+RSChildren - Merged Complete and USKP .esp+RS Children Overhaul+Non-Essential Children+Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch+Climates Of Tamriel v5-0+Wonders of Weather+Wet and Cold+Supreme and Volumetric Fog+Lightning during Thunder Storms+Automatic Variants+Colorful Magic+Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim+Spell Crafting for Skyrim (perks)+Spell Crafting for Skyrim+Helgen Reborn-Bodyslide Preset+HDT High Heels System+NetImmerse Override+FNIS Sexy Move+Wearable Lanterns SMIM Patch+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project+sexy idle Animation+The Eyes Of Beauty+SG+Lovely Hairstyles+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One+UIExtensions+AddItemMenu - Ultimate Mod Explorer-High Quality LODs+F2F MCM Translation+Face to face conversation+Fuz Ro Doh+Female Facial Animation+Farm Animals - Hearthfire Edition+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles+Argonian - Khajiit FabULook Eyes Stand Alone+Natural Eyes+True Eyes - Textures - Argonian+Breezehome Firepit Removed+BodySlide 2 and Outfit Studio+Better Torches+KS Hairdos 400+DOA Christie Hair HDT+Numenume Hair HDT v14+ApachiiSkyHair - Male 1.2+ApachiiSkyHair - Female 1.5+ApachiiSkyHair+Ponytail Hairstyles v3_0+XP32 Ponytail 14.28+BB's Hair Physics Project 1.21+KS Hairdos - HDT Physics (BBP Fix)+KS Hairdos - HDT Physics+HDT Equipment - Craftable Weapon Sling+[skeleton]XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended+The TBBP animation of Dragonfly with butt bounce+SOS+YY Anim Replacer - Mystic Knight+New Animation for Magic Casting - New Animation for magic cast v0-8+Pretty Combat Animations 1.36e+Female Animation Pack+Immersive Animations+Dual Sheath Redux+Enhanced Animation+Trepleen-Daie HDT CBBE body + Vagina2.4 + XPMSE v2.50 Collision XML+Bodyslide 2 - Female Meshe+ECEE - RANs Enhanced Character Edit Enhancer+RaceMenu+Enhanced Character Edit+SexLabAroused V16b+SexLab Solutions v4.0.0+SexLab - Defeat+SexLab+SexLabMatchMaker+SexLabFramework-FNIS PCEA2 - Player Exclusive Animations (dynamic)+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS Spells Addon+FNIS Behavior V6_2+Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers+Colored Map Markers Updated+Mfg Console+SkyUI+SKSE+OneTweak (Borderless Window)+Safety Load+Update ESM - Clean+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch+Dragonborn - Clean*Unmanaged: Dragonborn+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch+Hearthfire - Clean*Unmanaged: HearthFires+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch+Dawnguard - Clean*Unmanaged: Dawnguard+Unofficial Skyrim Patch*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03 And this is the right side or (load order). Skyrim.esm Update.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSexLab.esmSexLabAroused.esmRaceCompatibility.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmAzarHair.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmApachiiHairMales.esmLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmSGHairPackBase.esmhdtHighHeel.esmRSkyrimChildren.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espCoT-WeatherPatch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.espSkyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.espSkyUI.espFNIS.espFNISSexyMove.espSexLabMatchMaker.espSexLabDefeat.espCharacterMakingExtender.espHDT Havok Object.espDual Sheath Redux.espSOS - Smurf Average Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espSOSRaceMenu.espXPMSE.espHDT Capes.espHDTPhysicsWeaponSling.espKS Hairdos - HDT.espHair Physics Project.espAzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.espnumenume Hair.espdoahair.espKS Hairdo's.espLovelyHairstylesCE.espSGHairPackAIO.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espWetandCold.espETaC - Complete.espTamriel Reloaded HD.espMoss Rocks - Legendary.espimmersive roads.espAOS.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp3DNPC.espSexLab_Solutions.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espVerdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.espUNO - NPC Overhaul.espEnhancedCharacterEdit.espImmersive Orc Strongholds.espHelgen Reborn.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espSkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.espRealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espETaC - Complete LoS Patch.espImmersive Whiterun.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espImmersive Weapons.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilationCHILDRENPATCH.espAkavari Katana Re_borne.espKTABladeOfWoe.espbetter_torches.espRaceMenuMorphsCBBE.espFabLookEyes.esptowConversation.espUIExtensions.espAddItemMenu.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espChesko_WearableLantern.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espScarletDawnArmor.espvindictusblackleather.espVampireBrideRobes.espHealerRobes.espmintylightningmod.espSupreme Fog.espWondersofWeather.espNonEssentialChildren.espRSChildren_CompleteUSKP.espRSChildren - Complete.espRSChildren_PatchUSKP.espRSChildren_PatchNEC.espRSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.espRSChildren_PlayableOverride.espRSChildren - Clothes LE.espRSChildren - Clothes.espMy_Little_kitty.espChild Follower 2.espBijin Wives.espUFO - Dawnguard AddOn.espHearthfireMultiKid.espHearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.espImmersive Solstheim.espJKs Windhelm.espJKs Solitude.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espInconsequential NPCs.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espJKs Whiterun.espJKs Riften.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espUFO - Heartfire AddOn.espSMIM-Merged-All.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espRemodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.espJKs Markarth.espAtlas Legendary.espBreezehome Firepit Removed.espSFO - Dragonborn.espVariousGuardReplacer.espColorful_Magic.espFarm Animals_HF.espNerniesThiefPack.espSexLab-AmorousAdventures.espBDO_Kibelius.espPatch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.espBijin Warmaidens.esp3DNPC Alternative Locations.espRealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.espWATER Plants.espSOS - Shop.espETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espRealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.espTW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp_tck_SpellCrafting.espPerkusMaximus_Master.espPerkusMaximus_Mage.espPerkusMaximus_Thief.espPerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp_tck_SpellCraftingPerma.espKhajiitChildren.espSteelPlateBikini.espETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espSOT-Sleeping.espMy_Little_hatchling.espBijin NPCs.espUFO - Dragonborn AddOn.espTradeBarter.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espRND_USKP-Patch.espDynamic Dialogue Followers.espAOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.espRemodeled Armor - Underwear.espRemodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.espRemodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.espFollowerCompatibility.espAOS2_CoTWP Patch.espCoT-WeatherPatch_DB.espCoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.espCoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.espCoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.espCoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.espCoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.espBarenziahQuestMarkers.espAtlas Compass Tweaks.espETaC - Complete RS Patch.espRND_ETaC-Patch.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espAutomatic Variants.esp My Computer ------------------ System Information------------------Time of this report: 1/4/2016, 23:57:37Machine name: WTH-AWESOME-PCOperating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.151019-1254)Language: English (Regional Setting: English)System Manufacturer: ASUSSystem Model: All SeriesBIOS: BIOS Date: 09/30/14 15:52:27 Ver: 20.12Processor: Intel® Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~4.0GHzMemory: 32768MB RAMAvailable OS Memory: 31702MB RAMPage File: 8786MB used, 54616MB availableWindows Dir: C:\WindowsDirectX Version: DirectX 11DX Setup Parameters: Not foundUser DPI Setting: Using System DPISystem DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)DWM DPI Scaling: DisabledDxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode---------------Display Devices---------------Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970Manufacturer: NVIDIAChip type: GeForce GTX 970DAC type: Integrated RAMDACDevice Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13C2&SUBSYS_136819DA&REV_A1Display Memory: 3218 MBDedicated Memory: 4007 MBShared Memory: 3307 MBCurrent Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (144Hz)Monitor Name: Generic PnP MonitorMonitor Model: VG248Monitor Id: ACI24A4Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)Output Type: Displayport ExternalDriver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2umDriver File Version: 10.18.0013.6143 (English)Driver Version: 10.18.13.6143DDI Version: 11Driver Model: WDDM 1.1Driver Attributes: Final RetailD3D9 Overlay: SupportedDXVA-HD: SupportedDDraw Status: EnabledD3D Status: EnabledAGP Status: Enabled I am getting really confused. My Children has an Adult head on a child's body (only the girls, this doesnt affect boys), My game CTD, my texture are all messed up cause i have no idea how to load them, i am using Project ENB which work really well. Also i am lagging really bad ever sinced i've been working around with my left mod list. What i am asking. Is pointers or maybe a little help sorting my mess ^^;;;
Varithina Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Couple of things that jump out when I look at things is; SOS - Smurf Average Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Check the mod install, as I am pretty sure you should only have 1 of the above esp's active. PerkusMaximus_Master.esp is supposed to be pretty much under your esm's, again the install for the mod will help. RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.espRSChildren - Complete.espRSChildren_PatchUSKP.espRSChildren_PatchNEC.espRSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.espRSChildren_PlayableOverride.espRSChildren - Clothes LE.espRSChildren - Clothes.esp Check out the install instuctions for this mod, the completeuskp.esp and complete.esp to me looks a bit odd, though if the completeuskp is an overide it should be below the complete.esp, same with the nonplayableoverride.esp and playableoveride.esp. I would also check the clothes le and clothes, as I would normally only expect one of the each of the esp's to be active. While not a major problem apart form duplicate hairs, I would only have one of these two active, as they are both pretty much the same thing. Though the HDT version may not have all the hairs the normal one does. KS Hairdos - HDT.espKS Hairdo's.esp
NamelessRogue Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 The beginning of your modlist load order is extremely wrong, as above poster mentioned remove/ move to optional plugins KS Hairdo's.esp, For RS children Your should have the .esm master, RS-children-complete uskp, Rs children-patch nec, and choice one of playable overrides options , and the LE edition of clothes (as well as a few patches for other mods you may have). also i am not sure if the immersive armor for children will work try to find a RSchildren patch for it or go without. also may i suggest Jk's skyrim instead of EtaC and Jk's skyrim combined, would also remove one tweak and use enblocal's borderless fullscreen instead. would also remove safety load and use skse.ini memory patch instead. also you have not installed perkus maximus correctly i don't see the pama patches and patchus maxus patch out put should be below a tes5edt patch and bash patch, also i don't see output folders for your fnis for users or dsr patch. as a guide here is my modlist / load order http://pastebin.com/cpddMgm4 http://pastebin.com/B70g02e9
ChibiSektor Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 Couple of things that jump out when I look at things is; SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Check the mod install, as I am pretty sure you should only have 1 of the above esp's active. PerkusMaximus_Master.esp is supposed to be pretty much under your esm's, again the install for the mod will help. RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp RSChildren - Clothes LE.esp RSChildren - Clothes.esp Check out the install instuctions for this mod, the completeuskp.esp and complete.esp to me looks a bit odd, though if the completeuskp is an overide it should be below the complete.esp, same with the nonplayableoverride.esp and playableoveride.esp. I would also check the clothes le and clothes, as I would normally only expect one of the each of the esp's to be active. While not a major problem apart form duplicate hairs, I would only have one of these two active, as they are both pretty much the same thing. Though the HDT version may not have all the hairs the normal one does. KS Hairdos - HDT.esp KS Hairdo's.esp The only reason i am keeping KS Hairdo's.esp is because NPC Overhaul Needs it to run. or it will tell me that it's missing masters.
Guest endgameaddiction Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Couple of things that jump out when I look at things is; SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Check the mod install, as I am pretty sure you should only have 1 of the above esp's active. Actually, it's safe to have those SOS plugins installed and enabled. The only thing that needs to be done is making sure what gender/race is using which version. I don't remember if there is some kind of bug or if in general the SOS penis version last in the load order takes priority to the NPCs, but I make sure I go through each one in MCM and untick the one's I don't want on certain races and leave the ones I do want on. There shouldn't be any CTD caused by this.
ChibiSektor Posted January 6, 2016 Author Posted January 6, 2016 Yup i've read up on SOS yesterday, Everything looked fine. I just don't know how to do my load order. I was reading on NexusIt said Load order should be as follows :"- ESM - Fixes - Game Structures - Character (Hair, Eyes) - location - Additems - add people - enviroment - game play - patch" My main problem with this. Is i don't know what goes where; i.e textures, Bijin Npcs and what not. Animations, etc... so i am a bit confused. it worked fine. but now i can't even go outside a house without crashing. at first i thought it was my children cause i always get problem with this mod.
ChibiSektor Posted January 8, 2016 Author Posted January 8, 2016 I know .ESM are Masters. Which are important to be first. That i know that much.But the other mods, is there a difference how to load them in the left pane?
Guest endgameaddiction Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Yes, it matters just as much as your load order. it's crucial you know how to set up your mod list on the left pane so you know what assets are taking priority over others. A perfect example is the skeleton.nif and .hkx. If you use XPMSE, you want to keep that at the bottom or anywhere on the list that has priority over any other mod that adds these because there could be conflicts if you happen to have XPMSE above any other mod that uses these assets and are outdated. What the left pane does is lets you manage your mods so that you can control what mod takes priority. It helps you see what mods conflict and how to work around it. I usually do this mainly for animations. Nit picking the one's I want and hiding or removing the one's I don't. Hence the name of the mod manager: Mod Organizer.
ChibiSektor Posted January 8, 2016 Author Posted January 8, 2016 But there is not really a an conflict if mods are no Organized as long as they dont conflict as much correct? So FNIS should be under the XPmse but over the FNIS - Patch correct?
Guest endgameaddiction Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 If mods are not overwritten there are no conflicts in the left pane. I personally keep FNIS below all my animations which are the next on my list after patches. up top. Anything related to body is near the bottom and XPMSE is last on the list or just about. As long as nothing overwrites XPMSE files it doesn't necessarily have to be at the very bottom. It's just recommended . FNIS patches should come after FNIS main. Same way a mod like Climates of Tamriel is above any Climates of Tamriel patches. You want to treat the left pane very similar to your load order but also figure out what needs to take priority over what. Anything like patches like the eye bug fix mod that is a eye mesh fix, should be something you want near the bottom so that nothing overwrites it like say an Eye overhaul mod that may not have the eye mesh fix included.
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