Mod Organiser and Load order

[ChibiSektor]

Hello i'm having trouble with load order.
can anyone take a look. i keep getting a CTD. 

 

This is from the Left side or (modlist.txt) of MO 

 

 

+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul
+Atlas Map Markers for Skyrim Blackreach Dawnguard and Dragonborn
-RS Patch for ETaC Complete plus DBS
+ETaC Complete - Patch
+Skyproc - Automatic Variants
+Skyproc - Maximus Perkus
+SKSE - Character GEN
+Fnis - HDT High Heels
+Fnis - Fix 2
+Caliente's overwrite
+Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO
+Make any child your follower
+Realistic Needs and Diseases 2.0
+UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul Compatibility Version
+UFO - Dragonborn AddOn
+UFO - Dawnguard AddOn
+UFO - Heartfire AddOn
+UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul
+4k Parallax Mines by Pfuscher
+Detailed Rugs
+Ultimate HD Fire Effects
+Embers HD K Edition
+The Ruffled Feather
+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures -Towns
+Realistic Water Two
+Skyrim_Particle_Patch_for_ENB--All-In-One
+SkyFalls + SkyMills
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
-MX ForestGrass01
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul
+Verdant 2.0a - Full Version
+Immersive Roads
+Tamriel Reloaded HD - Texture 4k
+Tamriel Reloaded HD
+PP Whiterun Skyrim HD2K
+Interesting NPCs - Nernies Thief Pack
+3DNPC-Dawnguard-Realistic Teeth
+3DNPC-Realistic Teeth
+3DNPC - Alternative Locations
+Interesting NPCs - For Vampire
+3DNPC V.3.16
+3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn
+3DNPC
+Bijin Warmaidens
+Bijin Wives
+Bijin Warmaidens CBBE-TBBP Body
+Bijin NPCs
+Inconsequential NPCs V 1.9
-SUM - SkyProc Unified Manager
+Follower Compatibility
+Fuz Roh Doh plugin
+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2
+Dynamic Follower Dialogue - DFD
+Sands of Time Sleeping Encounters Standalone Module
+PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
+Hvergelmir's Armor Retexture - HAR
+Apophysis Dragon Priest Masks
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures
+Trade and Barter
+Pretty Sit Idle v1.41c
-Husky 2k Variants - An Automatic Variants Package
-Automatic Variants for Critters
-Cuter Animal Retextures Automatic Variants
-Grace Darklings Automatic Variants Texture Packs
-6 Mudcrabs for Automatic Variants
+Gamwich's Textures for PNP
+Steel Nord Plate Bikini Armor v2
+aMidianBorn Steel Plate Armor
+Witcher 3 Yennefer and Triss armors
+Scarlet Dawn Armor - CBBEv3 - UNP - 7B Cleavage BBP - CBPE - UNPB BBP
+VampireBrideRobes
+LeatherBearSkirt
+Vindictus Leather Armor
+EQUIPABLE SOS B3lisario HDTMLinked
+Alternate Blade of Woe - Model replacer
+Alternate Blade of Woe
+Akavari Katana Reborn Optional
+Akavari Katana Reborn
+SG Female Textures Renewal
+Immersive Armor - Child Playable
+HDT Cape Optional 4K retexture
+Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT
+BDO Kibelius v1
+RS Childern - Clothes LE
+RS Childern - Clothes
+Immersive Weapons
+HealerClothes
+Immersive Armors
+Skyrim Subsurface Scattering Patch for ENB
+Capes with HDT physics
+Wearable Lanterns
+Various guard outfits for Every cityTS Edition
+ETaC Complete
+JK Markarth
+JK Solitude
+JK Riften
+JK Windhelm
+JK Whiterun V. 1.1
+SG Female Textures Renewal Elfs
+Hearthfire multiple adoptions
+RS Patch for Inconsequential NPCs
+The Ultimate NPC Overhaul
+Khajiit Child Maisha Additional Version
+Ram-Ku-Argonian boy
+Ma-Rakha-Khajiit boy
+RSChildren - Override
+RSChildren - Merged Complete and USKP .esp
+RS Children Overhaul
+Non-Essential Children
+Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch
+Climates Of Tamriel v5-0
+Wonders of Weather
+Wet and Cold
+Supreme and Volumetric Fog
+Lightning during Thunder Storms
+Automatic Variants
+Colorful Magic
+Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim
+Spell Crafting for Skyrim (perks)
+Spell Crafting for Skyrim
+Helgen Reborn
-Bodyslide Preset
+HDT High Heels System
+NetImmerse Override
+FNIS Sexy Move
+Wearable Lanterns SMIM Patch
+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod
+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project
+sexy idle Animation
+The Eyes Of Beauty
+SG
+Lovely Hairstyles
+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One
+UIExtensions
+AddItemMenu - Ultimate Mod Explorer
-High Quality LODs
+F2F MCM Translation
+Face to face conversation
+Fuz Ro Doh
+Female Facial Animation
+Farm Animals - Hearthfire Edition
+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles
+Argonian - Khajiit FabULook Eyes Stand Alone
+Natural Eyes
+True Eyes - Textures - Argonian
+Breezehome Firepit Removed
+BodySlide 2 and Outfit Studio
+Better Torches
+KS Hairdos 400
+DOA Christie Hair HDT
+Numenume Hair HDT v14
+ApachiiSkyHair - Male 1.2
+ApachiiSkyHair - Female 1.5
+ApachiiSkyHair
+Ponytail Hairstyles v3_0
+XP32 Ponytail 14.28
+BB's Hair Physics Project 1.21
+KS Hairdos - HDT Physics (BBP Fix)
+KS Hairdos - HDT Physics
+HDT Equipment - Craftable Weapon Sling
+[skeleton]XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+The TBBP animation of Dragonfly with butt bounce
+SOS
+YY Anim Replacer - Mystic Knight
+New Animation for Magic Casting - New Animation for magic cast v0-8
+Pretty Combat Animations 1.36e
+Female Animation Pack
+Immersive Animations
+Dual Sheath Redux
+Enhanced Animation
+Trepleen-Daie HDT CBBE body + Vagina2.4 + XPMSE v2.50 Collision XML
+Bodyslide 2 - Female Meshe
+ECEE - RANs Enhanced Character Edit Enhancer
+RaceMenu
+Enhanced Character Edit
+SexLabAroused V16b
+SexLab Solutions v4.0.0
+SexLab - Defeat
+SexLab
+SexLabMatchMaker
+SexLabFramework
-FNIS PCEA2 - Player Exclusive Animations (dynamic)
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS Spells Addon
+FNIS Behavior V6_2
+Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers
+Colored Map Markers Updated
+Mfg Console
+SkyUI
+SKSE
+OneTweak (Borderless Window)
+Safety Load
+Update ESM - Clean
+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
+Dragonborn - Clean
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
+Hearthfire - Clean
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
+Dawnguard - Clean
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
+Unofficial Skyrim Patch
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

 

 

 

And this is the right side or (load order).

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
AzarHair.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
SkyUI.esp
FNIS.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
HDT Havok Object.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
HDT Capes.esp
HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
Hair Physics Project.esp
AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
numenume Hair.esp
doahair.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
WetandCold.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp
Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
immersive roads.esp
AOS.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
3DNPC.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
UNO - NPC Overhaul.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilationCHILDRENPATCH.esp
Akavari Katana Re_borne.esp
KTABladeOfWoe.esp
better_torches.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
FabLookEyes.esp
towConversation.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenu.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
ScarletDawnArmor.esp
vindictusblackleather.esp
VampireBrideRobes.esp
HealerRobes.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
Supreme Fog.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp
RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp
RSChildren - Clothes LE.esp
RSChildren - Clothes.esp
My_Little_kitty.esp
Child Follower 2.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
JKs Windhelm.esp
JKs Solitude.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
JKs Whiterun.esp
JKs Riften.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
JKs Markarth.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
Breezehome Firepit Removed.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
VariousGuardReplacer.esp
Colorful_Magic.esp
Farm Animals_HF.esp
NerniesThiefPack.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
BDO_Kibelius.esp
Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
WATER Plants.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
_tck_SpellCrafting.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
_tck_SpellCraftingPerma.esp
KhajiitChildren.esp
SteelPlateBikini.esp
ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
SOT-Sleeping.esp
My_Little_hatchling.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
FollowerCompatibility.esp
AOS2_CoTWP Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp
RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Automatic Variants.esp

 

 

My Computer

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/4/2016, 23:57:37
Machine name: WTH-AWESOME-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.151019-1254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ASUS
System Model: All Series
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/30/14 15:52:27 Ver: 20.12
Processor: Intel® Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
Memory: 32768MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 31702MB RAM
Page File: 8786MB used, 54616MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

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Chip type: GeForce GTX 970
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
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Display Memory: 3218 MB
Dedicated Memory: 4007 MB
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Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (144Hz)
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DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

 

 

I am getting really confused. My Children has an Adult head on a child's body (only the girls, this doesnt affect boys), My game CTD, my texture are all messed up cause i have no idea how to load them, i am using Project ENB which work really well. Also i am lagging really bad ever sinced i've been working around with my left mod list. What i am asking. Is pointers or maybe a little help sorting my mess ^^;;; 

 

[Varithina]

Couple of things that jump out when I look at things is;

 

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

 

Check the mod install, as I am pretty sure you should only have 1 of the above esp's active.
 

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp is supposed to be pretty much under your esm's, again the install for the mod will help.

 

RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp
RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp
RSChildren - Clothes LE.esp
RSChildren - Clothes.esp

 

Check out the install instuctions for this mod, the completeuskp.esp and complete.esp to me looks a bit odd, though if the completeuskp is an overide it should be below the complete.esp, same with the nonplayableoverride.esp and playableoveride.esp. I would also check the clothes le and clothes, as I would normally only expect one of the each of the esp's to be active.

 

While not a major problem apart form duplicate hairs, I would only have one of these two active, as they are both pretty much the same thing.  Though the HDT version may not have all the hairs the normal one does.

 

KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp

 

 

 

[NamelessRogue]

The beginning of your modlist load order is extremely wrong, as above poster mentioned remove/ move to optional plugins KS Hairdo's.esp, For RS children Your should have the .esm master, RS-children-complete uskp, Rs children-patch nec, and choice one of playable overrides options , and the LE edition of clothes (as well as a few patches for other mods you may have). also i am not sure if the immersive armor for children will work try to find a RSchildren patch for it or go without. also may i suggest Jk's skyrim instead of EtaC and Jk's skyrim combined, would also remove one tweak and use enblocal's borderless fullscreen instead. would also remove safety load and use skse.ini memory patch instead.

 

also you have not installed perkus maximus correctly i don't see the pama patches and patchus maxus patch out put should be below a tes5edt patch and bash patch, also i don't see output folders for your fnis for users or dsr patch. as a guide here is my modlist / load order

 

http://pastebin.com/cpddMgm4

 

http://pastebin.com/B70g02e9

[ChibiSektor]

Couple of things that jump out when I look at things is;

 

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

 

Check the mod install, as I am pretty sure you should only have 1 of the above esp's active.

 

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp is supposed to be pretty much under your esm's, again the install for the mod will help.

 

RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp

RSChildren - Complete.esp

RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp

RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp

RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp

RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp

RSChildren - Clothes LE.esp

RSChildren - Clothes.esp

 

Check out the install instuctions for this mod, the completeuskp.esp and complete.esp to me looks a bit odd, though if the completeuskp is an overide it should be below the complete.esp, same with the nonplayableoverride.esp and playableoveride.esp. I would also check the clothes le and clothes, as I would normally only expect one of the each of the esp's to be active.

 

While not a major problem apart form duplicate hairs, I would only have one of these two active, as they are both pretty much the same thing.  Though the HDT version may not have all the hairs the normal one does.

 

KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

 

The only reason i am keeping KS Hairdo's.esp is because NPC Overhaul Needs it to run. or it will tell me that it's missing masters.

[Guest endgameaddiction]

Couple of things that jump out when I look at things is;

 

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

 

Check the mod install, as I am pretty sure you should only have 1 of the above esp's active.

 

 

 

Actually, it's safe to have those SOS plugins installed and enabled. The only thing that needs to be done is making sure what gender/race is using which version. I don't remember if there is some kind of bug or if in general the SOS penis version last in the load order takes priority to the NPCs, but I make sure I go through each one in MCM and untick the one's I don't want on certain races and leave the ones I do want on.

 

There shouldn't be any CTD caused by this.

[ChibiSektor]

Yup i've read up on SOS yesterday, Everything looked fine. I just don't know how to do my load order. I was reading on Nexus
It said Load order should be as follows :
"- ESM
 - Fixes
 - Game Structures

 - Character (Hair, Eyes)

 - location

 - Additems

 - add people

 - enviroment

 - game play

 - patch"

 

My main problem with this. Is i don't know what goes where; i.e textures, Bijin Npcs and what not. Animations, etc...

so i am a bit confused. it worked fine. but now i can't even go outside a house without crashing.

at first i thought it was my children cause i always get problem with this mod.

 

[ChibiSektor]

I know .ESM are Masters. Which are important to be first. That i know that much.

But the other mods, is there a difference how to load them in the left pane?

[Guest endgameaddiction]

Yes, it matters just as much as your load order. it's crucial you know how to set up your mod list on the left pane so you know what assets are taking priority over others. A perfect example is the skeleton.nif and .hkx. If you use XPMSE, you want to keep that at the bottom or anywhere on the list that has priority over any other mod that adds these because there could be conflicts if you happen to have XPMSE above any other mod that uses these assets and are outdated.

 

What the left pane does is lets you manage your mods so that you can control what mod takes priority. It helps you see what mods conflict and how to work around it. I usually do this mainly for animations. Nit picking the one's I want and hiding or removing the one's I don't. Hence the name of the mod manager: Mod Organizer.

[ChibiSektor]

But there is not really a an conflict if mods are no Organized as long as they dont conflict as much correct? So FNIS should be under the XPmse but over the FNIS - Patch correct?

 

[Guest endgameaddiction]

If mods are not overwritten there are no conflicts in the left pane. I personally keep FNIS below all my animations which are the next on my list after patches. up top. Anything related to body is near the bottom and XPMSE is last on the list or just about. As long as nothing overwrites XPMSE  files it doesn't necessarily have to be at the very bottom. It's just recommended .

 

FNIS patches should come after FNIS main. Same way a mod like Climates of Tamriel is above any Climates of Tamriel patches.

 

You want to treat the left pane very similar to your load order but also figure out what needs to take priority over what. Anything like patches like the eye bug fix mod that is a eye mesh fix, should be something you want near the bottom so that nothing overwrites it like say an Eye overhaul mod that may not have the eye mesh fix included.