gsxgdawg93 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Whenever i start up oblivion, it just black screens and crashes I just recently installed oblivion and followed -Quick install (lovers mod) http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=30 and MBP / XEO http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=13 to the dot. Yet whenever i load up oblivion it won't open up for me. I installed everything through the OBMM and i installed "OBSE v0019b or higher, BUFramework, Pluggy" with no problems. Can anyone offer any insight on this? it'd be greatly appreciated EDIT: I also installed "BOSS" but i can't make heads or tails of what its trying to tell me BOSS Load order −Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6 OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll −Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins Oblivion.esm Active Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Eyes, Graphics, Hair, R.Relations}} Lovers with PK.esm Version 1.4.1 Active BreakUndies.esm Active LoversCreature.esm Active x117race.esm Version 0.7.7 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair}} Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.2.0 Active Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537'>http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537 Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version). UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 Active Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings". Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Active DLCShiveringIsles.esp Active Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.0 Active Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537 Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}} USIPS Additional Changes.esp Version 1.4.4 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} MOBS.esp Version 2.0 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NoMerge, Stats}} Note: Not needed if you use MOBS SI.esp MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp Version 1.2.2a Active Note: Do not use with Frans or FCOM. ak_testhighheels.esp Active Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp Version 5.0 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}} SG001_BunnyGirl.esp Active R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp Active R18PN - Lingeries.esp Version 1 Active Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Version 1.6. Active LoversFSE.esp Active LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp Active Note: Use either 'LoversAdultPlay.esp' or 'LoversSpringSale.esp' but not both together. LoversRaperS.esp Active LoversJoburg.esp Active LoversBed.esp Active LoversPower.esp Active LoversContraception.esp Active Lovers with PK.esp Version 90 Active LoversBitch.esp Version 0.5b Active LoversCreature.esp Active LoversGroup1.esp Active LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp Active LoversBackup2.esp Active LoversStopCombatEx.esp Active LoversSpermSplashEx.esp Active LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp Active LoversRapeSlave.esp Active LoversHideMenus.esp Active LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp SW01.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Anims, NoMerge}} Note: Use 'SW01.esp' or 'SW01Plus.esp' but not both at the same time. SW01Plus affects the player as well. Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide SWalk.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Anims, NoMerge}} CuteElf11.esp Version 1.3.5 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, Graphics}} Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Version 1.3b Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Version 1.3a Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NoMerge, NpcFaces}} Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}} Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Version 1.3a Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Version 1.3a Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp Version 4 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, R.Teeth, Body-M, Body-Size-M, Body-F, Body-Size-F}} Bashed Patch, 0.esp Version 4/1/2012 3:01:03 PM Active LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Version 400 Active LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Version 4700 Active −Unrecognised Plugins Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. LoversProstitute.esp Version 0.25a Active Colourwheels Sexy & extremely short dress.esp Active LoversHooker.esp Active LoversMB2.esp Active Load order from OBMM Oblivion.esm BreakUndies.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Lovers with PK.esm x117race.esm LoversCreature.esm USIPS Additional Changes.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp ak_testhighheels.esp Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp SG001_BunnyGirl.esp R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversProstitute.esp Colourwheels Sexy & extremely short dress.esp LoversHooker.esp CuteElf11.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversBed.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversHideMenus.esp LoversPower.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Please read this: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 Then revise your post to include your load order
gsxgdawg93 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Please read this: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 Then revise your post to include your load order Okay, Read and Revised. Although i have a question... or a few questions whats a bash plugin in and whats it mean to bash patch and disable? Sorry, im new to this >_< EDIT: I read about batch files and learned how to make them now and because of that i now get further into oblivion then before. As in before i loaded it up - black screen - crashes Now its load it up - launches game - "loading screen" - Crashes
gregathit Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Crashes that occur at start up or loading screens are generally due to missing masters (or out of order) or bad/missing ini files. You do have a master out of order as seen below. Switch your mods around in the order I have given you and rebuild your bashed patch - NOTE: when you rebuild your bashed patch MAKE SURE you disable all lovers esp and esm files and then rebuild your bashed patch. If you don't then lovers files could get included in the bashed patch and this can break their scripts (which can cause all kinds of problems). On your other question: You disable the plugin and then rebuild you bashed patch. If it is mergeable then you just select it from the appropriate place as you are rebuilding you bashed patch and it will then merge that file into the patch. You then leave the mod disabled since it is merged into the bashed patch. DON'T delete the file as you will need it if you have to rebuild your bashed patch in the future. There is a pictorial tutorial for Wrye if that helps: http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=35230 [spoiler=Use This Load Order] Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm BreakUndies.esm USIPS Additional Changes.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp <---something is weird here. If you properly ran boss it would have place this here. Patches ALWAYS have to go after the mod they patch! ak_testhighheels.esp Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp SG001_BunnyGirl.esp R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Colourwheels Sexy & extremely short dress.esp MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp CuteElf11.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPower.esp LoversFSE.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp or LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp - pick one or the other. See below for link to definition of what each plugin does. LoversHideMenus.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversBitch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversBackup2.esp <--- Delete this as you no longer need it (it is built into lovers with pk versions 90 and up). Link for plugin descriptions: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=65
gsxgdawg93 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Crashes that occur at start up or loading screens are generally due to missing masters (or out of order) or bad/missing ini files. You do have a master out of order as seen below. Switch your mods around in the order I have given you and rebuild your bashed patch - NOTE: when you rebuild your bashed patch MAKE SURE you disable all lovers esp and esm files and then rebuild your bashed patch. If you don't then lovers files could get included in the bashed patch and this can break their scripts (which can cause all kinds of problems). On your other question: You disable the plugin and then rebuild you bashed patch. If it is mergeable then you just select it from the appropriate place as you are rebuilding you bashed patch and it will then merge that file into the patch. You then leave the mod disabled since it is merged into the bashed patch. DON'T delete the file as you will need it if you have to rebuild your bashed patch in the future. There is a pictorial tutorial for Wrye if that helps: http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=35230 [spoiler=Use This Load Order] Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm BreakUndies.esm USIPS Additional Changes.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp <---something is weird here. If you properly ran boss it would have place this here. Patches ALWAYS have to go after the mod they patch! ak_testhighheels.esp Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp SG001_BunnyGirl.esp R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Colourwheels Sexy & extremely short dress.esp MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp CuteElf11.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPower.esp LoversFSE.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp or LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp - pick one or the other. See below for link to definition of what each plugin does. LoversHideMenus.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversBitch.esp Bashed Patch' date=' 0.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversBackup2.esp <--- Delete this as you no longer need it (it is built into lovers with pk versions 90 and up). Link for plugin descriptions: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=65 [/quote'] Okay, i rearranged the order list and now it looks like Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm BreakUndies.esm USIPS Additional Changes.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp ak_testhighheels.esp Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp SG001_BunnyGirl.esp R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Colourwheels Sexy & extremely short dress.esp MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp CuteElf11.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPower.esp LoversFSE.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversHideMenus.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversBitch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp And i redid the batch file without any .esm/.esp with the words "lover" in it. I load up the game and it flashes "Bethesda Softworks" and crashes still. Am i doing something wrong? maybe with the batch files (i did read the pdf from the download link) also, from the pdf i learned about cleaning the files. Which i followed the guide on .. what was the name? well it was a wiki about it and cleaned a few files. Q.Q
gregathit Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 If you go back to your boss list and double check things you will see that the USIPS needs to be underneath the UOP shivering isles patch like this: Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp USIPS Additional Changes.esp Manually drag usips to be beneath its master file and you should be fixed. Sorry I didn't see that last go round. The best thing to learn from this is use boss to help you sort your load order and then manually sort the lovers files where they need to go. Holler if that doesn't fix you up.
gsxgdawg93 Posted April 2, 2012 Author Posted April 2, 2012 If you go back to your boss list and double check things you will see that the USIPS needs to be underneath the UOP shivering isles patch like this: Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp USIPS Additional Changes.esp Manually drag usips to be beneath its master file and you should be fixed. Sorry I didn't see that last go round. The best thing to learn from this is use boss to help you sort your load order and then manually sort the lovers files where they need to go. Holler if that doesn't fix you up. Rearrange it as specified. Still crashing >_<
gregathit Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Disable all mods except oblivion.esm and DLCShiveringIsles.esp and see if you start up then. If so then add back one mod starting from the top of the list and work your way down until you crash again. If you can't start with just the oblivion.esm and shivering isles esp then we may need to delete your oblivion.ini file in your my documents\games\oblivion folder and start the game with oblivion.exe (not obse like you normally would) so that oblivion will make a new one. As soon as the game finished loading and you get to the title screen then you can exit oblivion and try to start normally with OBSE's exe or OBMM.
gsxgdawg93 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Posted April 4, 2012 Disable all mods except oblivion.esm and DLCShiveringIsles.esp and see if you start up then. If so then add back one mod starting from the top of the list and work your way down until you crash again. If you can't start with just the oblivion.esm and shivering isles esp then we may need to delete your oblivion.ini file in your my documents\games\oblivion folder and start the game with oblivion.exe (not obse like you normally would) so that oblivion will make a new one. As soon as the game finished loading and you get to the title screen then you can exit oblivion and try to start normally with OBSE's exe or OBMM. Just got back from a small trip. Tried deleting the oblivion.ini file and it worked. Thank you SO SO SO MUCH!
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