Random Freezing and Crashes

[hater34]

Hey guys I am having trouble with oblivion right now. If I wait an more than an hour the game freezes the screen, but the music continues to play. This happens after I hit a certain point in time even in new game saves. I suspect it might be TamagoClub because I had zero freezing when I did a test run without it, but I want to keep that mod active. It is either that or if I go out of an interior the game just crashes and says oblivion has stopped working.

 

Here is my Load Order

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02 x117race.esm
03 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
04 Lovers with PK.esm
05 TamagoClub.esm
06 HiyokoClub.esm
07 LoversCreature.esm
08 Race Repository.esm
09 Flame Atronach Race.esm
0A Minotaur Race.esm
0B Chanpon.esm
0C Spider Daedra Race.esm
0D Example Race.esm
0E HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
0F Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.2]
10 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
11 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
12 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
13 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.6]
14 ImprovedSigns.esp
15 MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp
16 NOAH.esp [Version 2.4]
++ NOAH - Remove Cloud Effect.esp
17 kuerteeCleanUp.esp
18 DLCHorseArmor.esp
19 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]
1A DLCOrrery.esp
1B DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
1C DLCVileLair.esp
1D DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1E DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1F DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
20 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
21 DLCThievesDen.esp
22 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
23 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13]
24 DSoSCHotW.esp
25 GwedenBrothel.esp
26 GwedenExpansion.esp
27 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
28 Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp
29 RumpleMod.esp
2A RumpleModSI.esp
2B 24hourArena.esp [Version 1.1]
2C DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
2D DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
2E DLCFrostcrag.esp
2F DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
30 Knights.esp
31 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.6]
++ DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
++ Real Lava 1.3.esp
++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
32 TamagoNews.esp
33 TamagoTopic.esp
34 LoversTamagoClub.esp
35 HiyokoGenerator.esp
36 TamagoSetBody.esp
37 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
38 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
39 LoversRaperS.esp
3A LoversBed.esp
3B LoversPayBandit.esp
3C Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5]
3D LoversCreature.esp
3E LoversJoystick.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: SetBody.esp
3F LoversBackup2.esp
40 LoversRapeSlave.esp
41 LoversMB2.esp
42 LoversLight.esp
43 LoversSlaveTrader.esp
44 LSTBravilUnderground.esp
45 SkipTutorialv3.esp
46 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5]
47 MCS extension.esp
48 zzEDialog.esp
49 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
4A Playable Flame Atronach.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
4B Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
4C x117race.esp
++ x117Race ENG Race.esp
4D Lop-ears Elf.esp
4E OblivionReloaded.esp
4F Bashed Patch, 0.esp
50 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
51 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
52 hggf_hiyokoclub_fix.esp
53 HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp
54 DMRA Bouncing Butts - Paradise Island.esp [Version 0.4.5]
55 Friendly Potion.esp
56 Evergloam.esp
57 Playable Example.esp
58 Playable Spider Daedra.esp
59 Playable Minotaur.esp
5A No Bald.esp
5B xeoex.esp
5C SetBody.esp

[fejeena]

3E LoversJoystick.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: SetBody.esp

 

! Missing Master file ! Joystick must be after SetBody in load oder.

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Last esp in load order should be

LoversMB2.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

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SetBody.esp after Lovers, before Beautiful People and race Mods

 

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MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp

very Buggy

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Have you cleaned your Mods ? Tes4Edit cleaning the esm/esp ?

 

More about Load order and Mod cleaning: see my yellow Link below

[hater34]

3E LoversJoystick.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: SetBody.esp

 

! Missing Master file ! Joystick must be after SetBody in load oder.

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Last esp in load order should be

LoversMB2.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

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SetBody.esp after Lovers, before Beautiful People and race Mods

 

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MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp

very Buggy

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Have you cleaned your Mods ? Tes4Edit cleaning the esm/esp ?

 

More about Load order and Mod cleaning: see my yellow Link below

I Cleaned the DLC and the ones BOSS rendered dirty. The monster CoC could be responsible for the fast travel crash, but never froze my game.

[hater34]

After fiddling with all my mods. The cause of the freezing was TamagoClub.esm. I am using the the latest one by rgafghost. Is there any fix to this or do I have to abandon the mod in all?

[fejeena]

Which Version ? Latest stable versions are TamagoClub115c_Rev3 with HiyokoClub V1_10a Rev 2    http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13377-tamagoclub-115c-hiyokoclub110a-stuff-eng/?do=findComment&comment=295788  Post 17

 

Works fine in my game.

 

You can try TamagoClub v1_15c Rev 4 Alpha 1   http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13377-tamagoclub-115c-hiyokoclub110a-stuff-eng/page-15?do=findComment&comment=652938

 

[hater34]

Which Version ? Latest stable versions are TamagoClub115c_Rev3 with HiyokoClub V1_10a Rev 2    http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13377-tamagoclub-115c-hiyokoclub110a-stuff-eng/?do=findComment&comment=295788  Post 17

 

Works fine in my game.

 

You can try TamagoClub v1_15c Rev 4 Alpha 1   http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13377-tamagoclub-115c-hiyokoclub110a-stuff-eng/page-15?do=findComment&comment=652938

Using the TamagoClub v1_15c Rev 4 Alpha 1 build. If I disable TamagoClub and use the save before the crash, it runs perfect and even alot faster than normal. When I switch through version of it the game crashes after 4 ingame hours

[fejeena]

Then try the latest stable Version TamagoClub115c_Rev3  with the other Mods in post 17

and test it with a new game , not an old save.

[hater34]

Then try the latest stable Version TamagoClub115c_Rev3  with the other Mods in post 17

and test it with a new game , not an old save.

Alright tried those builds in post 17 and notice a difference. The game went alot better, but oblivion still spites me and freezes at a certain time again. Disable tamagoclub.esm again and the game went on without a single crash for a 5 hour run. Could a certain addon make the game freeze?

[fejeena]

Have you sorted your load order ? as I have said it in my first post. See my yellow Link.

Have you rebuild your Bashed Patch ? without Lovers and Tamago Mods ! ! !

Have you started a new game for testing the TamagoClub115c_Rev3  ?

 

Try it without Tamago addons

 

I use in this order:

 

TamagoClub.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

...

...

LoversTamagoClub.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp

HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp

 

Lovers Mods

...

..

Deactivate all other Tamago Mods and try again with a new game .

 

[hater34]

Have you sorted your load order ? as I have said it in my first post. See my yellow Link.

Have you rebuild your Bashed Patch ? without Lovers and Tamago Mods ! ! !

Have you started a new game for testing the TamagoClub115c_Rev3  ?

 

Try it without Tamago addons

 

I use in this order:

 

TamagoClub.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

...

...

LoversTamagoClub.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp

HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp

 

Lovers Mods

...

..

Deactivate all other Tamago Mods and try again with a new game .

My load order has been sorted

I rebuild my patch. What do you mean without lovers mod? Do I deactivate them first then rebuild the patch?

I did start a new game. It always happens after 3 people recognize the egg. I would go start a quest and then bam the game does a freeze.

 

I will disable Tamago Topic and News to see if that is the problem. 

[fejeena]

Yes never ! ! ! Lovers and Tamago Mods in the BashedPatch ! deactivate all then rebbuild your Patch.

 

 

[hater34]

Yes never ! ! ! Lovers and Tamago Mods in the BashedPatch ! deactivate all then rebbuild your Patch.

Thank you! I will try that solution. 

[hater34]

The freezing has to come from somewhere. When I start a new game Tamago is responsive. I can data reset with no problem. But something happens from an hour in and Tamago goes crazy. The freeze happens usually after I do a save, quit the game, and then reload the save. After the save reload and an egg is recognized, I only have a few minutes before the game freezes. 

[fejeena]

Have you tried it without all addons ?

TamagoNews.esp
TamagoTopic.esp

hggf_hiyokoclub_fix.esp

 

And also try it without

HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp
TamagoSetBody.esp

 

 

use only

TamagoClub.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

...

...

LoversTamagoClub.esp

 

Then you don't get a belly Body and you can not bear children, but it's only for testing if the base tamgo Mods causing your Problem.

 

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Your blockhead Version ? I use Blockhead 10.3

 

Tamago Set Body Version ? the Tamago Setbody Reboot Version http://www.loverslab.com/topic/14466-tamago-setbody-reboot/

SetBody Blockhead Version ?

 

[hater34]

Thanks fejeena. I actually found the real culprit to the freeze. It was actually Hiyoki club that froze my game not Tamago. When my game froze, I reloaded it but disable Hiyoki and it went past the freezing point. I wonder why its that plugin.

[fejeena]

Have you tried both Version  from post 1  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13377-tamagoclub-115c-hiyokoclub110a-stuff-eng/

HiyokoClub110a_eng_TranslationRev3.7z

 

and HiyokoClub V1_10a Rev 3.7z  it's the Version from post 17

 

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Edit: uh seems I  use  HiyokoClub V1_10a.7z (from post 17)  or HiyokoClub110a_eng_TranslationRev1 , that's the only Versions I have in my Tamago download Folder....funny.

 

Edit2: yes I really use the HiyokoClub V1_10a.7z ( post 17 ) the newest Versions with some changes by Varenne.

here the Versions I use http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15876-loversbitch-gone-wild-151-bb-fix/page-50?do=findComment&comment=736415   post 992

So if you have Problems with both Rev3 Versions try the HiyokoClub V1_10a.7z

[varenne]

I find it highly unlikely that either the Tamago or Hiyoko core MODs are the root cause of your ongoing issue(s). Why? Both the MBP++ (original) and non-MBP++ (newer fork) users have not reported any such issues, and when they do it is due to other reasons entirely; bad LO, wrong versions of core vs. add-on MODs, not using WB and building a bashed patch correctly, etc.

 

The Tamago-Hiyoko-Blockhead combo (Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge) is the latest major fork (3rd) and you did not respond to fejeen's question; which version of Blockhead are you using? And fejeena has given solid advice in the above posts; check to make sure you are using the best possible versions. You may in fact want to disable anything Tamago-Hiyoko-Blockhead related, build out just a core Tamago/Hiyoko setup and a new save game and do some testing. If it is rock solid after testing, then go to the Blockhead-Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge setup.

 

Also check the Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge thread as you may find more answers there.

[hater34]

I find it highly unlikely that either the Tamago or Hiyoko core MODs are the root cause of your ongoing issue(s). Why? Both the MBP++ (original) and non-MBP++ (newer fork) users have not reported any such issues, and when they do it is due to other reasons entirely; bad LO, wrong versions of core vs. add-on MODs, not using WB and building a bashed patch correctly, etc.

 

The Tamago-Hiyoko-Blockhead combo (Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge) is the latest major fork (3rd) and you did not respond to fejeen's question; which version of Blockhead are you using? And fejeena has give solid advice in the above posts; check to make sure you are using the best possible versions. You may in fact want to disable anything Tamago-Hiyoko-Blockhead related, build out just a core Tamago/Hoyoko setup and a new save game and do some testing. If it is rock solid after testing, then go to the Blockhead-Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge setup.

 

Also check the Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge thread as you may find more answers there.

It wasn't the core mod. I just disable Hiyoki entirely and then activated one by one and found it to be the generator causing the problem. The only reason I didn;t asnwer feejena question was because my game was I was doing test runs with it to root out all of my troubles. Im using latest builds from post 17 of the thread which was rev 3 v3.7 Hiyoki Club. I assumed the generator was screwing up because I was using Justinof, but that was proven wrong on another test build. Blockhead is V10.3 that I am currently using. Couldn't be my load order because I arranged it many times to replicate the one in feejna's post and the problem still arises. I'll just switch the rev 3 hiyoki with the other one and see if that fixes anything.

[varenne]

Yeah, you're having to go through much trial and error testing, which is the hard way of finding the root cause. I'll venture an educated guess again that what you will, eventually find is it is Blockhead-Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge related.

 

The majority of the Tamago-Hiyoko MODs have been beat on and beat into shape for years now. It is as far as I'm concerned pretty much rock solid. Any issues I've seen over the past 2+ years with using them have been 99.999% user error. Either a bad (sometimes very bad) LO, a very poor Oblivion build (using MODs that are not compatible) or simply not taking the time to read through all of the posts and past discoveries by existing and past members.

 

On the other hand, there have been new discoveries and issues with using the Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge and Blockhead. As I recall, maybe not necessarily an error or issue, some existing MODs may just need to be extended or updated to all play nice together. Again I strongly suggest checking out movomo's  Hiyoko Generator Gene Forge thread as you may find an answer there.

 

I would seriously consider disabling MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp. As already mentioned by fejeena it is very buggy to the point of, IMO being unstable. That MOD, again IMO is only good to have enabled for short periods of time, to play through some of it and then disable it.

[hater34]

After waiting over 15 in game days, I have yet to freeze. Could the game have frozen because of absurd stats? I always used a certain potion in the game, but since I didn't use it this time, my game didn't freeze the whole time.

[fejeena]

certain potion in the game?    which one? ( Mod  and Name. Maybe a potion with a "bad" script ? )

absurd stats??? above 100. No . Think nearly all People use a uncapper Mod.(like OBSE_Elys_Uncapper) No Problems in my game.

[hater34]

Its a quick test potion mod I made. It sets the personality extremely high to make everyone non aggressive. I think the value is like 99999999999. First I thought my crash was coming from the Monster CoC mod, if they ever got pregnant the game would crash. after trying that 4 times I thought it was true, until I didn't use the potion and my game didn't freeze on its self. But that was only on one monster, it usually freezes when I have multiple people recognizing the egg. I'll have to try it on 10 people at one time. 

[fejeena]

You know the max value in Oblivion is 255 ! If you add or set it to 300 you have 44   ( 255 max then 0 the 1 ..... )

I use the uncapper Mod and with a high Level Charater i have 130 to 160 values and some items . Then I played a Mod which added a +100 quest reward (do not remember which attributes) but after the quest reward one of my attributes was 4 ! Shit quest reward !

 

So a potion with +9999999999 personality did not work and can cause game engine Problems. Your 99999999999 is 390624999 times 256 (255+0) and the game engine is going crazy during calculate up to 255, back to 0, up to 255, back ..... ( It commits suicide )

Health and  fatigue and magicka you and power up with 9999999999 items and potions.

 

Delete the Mod/esp !!!

 

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Edit:  most   Monster CoC mod  monsters are no creatures, they are Humans with creatures armor/clothes items. (No playable items) And if Tamago replace the Body/armor with pregnant Versions it can cause Problems .

Believe me it is the dirtiest Mod I ever saw (  not only the esp also the the meshes are dirty and buggy ( except the BANSHEE  )

[hater34]

The monster CoC never caused me problems when I played oblivion around 3-4 years ago. Strangely enough my game stayed stable for almost 400 hours without a single crash. Also the potion fortify personality, so couldn't it go technically go on forever?