Me and NPC's are rooted in place

[Rokabur]

After I installed (http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2234) and (http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=184) suddenly most NPC's are rooted in place and I'm rooted in place as well if I switch to 3rd person. Thinking of just doing a clean install.

 

current load order but will probably weed a few out.

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Windfall.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Crystal Cave Tileset.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

LoversCreature.esm

Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm

Race Repository.esm

CM Partners.esm

ScreenEffects.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

elPatrixF_LeporidaeRace.esm

Minotaur Race.esm

elPatrixF_Salamander_Race.esm

mpc.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOPS Additional Changes.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

USIPS Additional Changes.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Damsels In Distress.esp

More Effective Enchantments.esp

Paladin.esp

CharGenAmulet.esp

PTFallingStars.esp

SINecropolis.esp

Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp

Water Nymphs.esp

Crowded Cities 15.esp

AddMapMarkers.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

SentientWeapon.esp

Wyrmfang.esp

TGND.esp

TGND_SI.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

LBUndeadAdditions.esp

300_Artifacts.esp

AdenseEpicDungeon.esp

AvaiRii_UnderwaterHome.esp

BladeSong.esp

Bottomless Cavern.esp

Cave Of Wishcraft.esp

Crystal Cave Dungeon.esp

DescentIntoNecropolis.esp

DSoSFortNocturnaSuppressio.esp

Dwarven Mines.esp

Edhildils Underdark.esp

FiveBlindMiceBeta.esp

GwedenBrothel.esp

GwedenExpansion.esp

Halls of Fortitude.esp

Hentai Mania.esp

Housewives v101.esp

EiAmod.esp

EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp

Malevolent.esp

Nou-Malatu.esp

Pek_Halls_of_The_Phoenix_Order.esp

Praying Room.esp

Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp

pythanis.esp

ShadowfangKeep.esp

Shivering Isles Root System.esp

SunderedKeep.esp

RomancingAhnassi.esp

The Temple of The Sleeper.esp

The Below.esp

TheForgottenRealm.esp

thievery.esp

Unique Dungeons - Lichs Lair.esp

Unique Dungeons - Lost Glory.esp

Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp

WellDiver.esp

White Tower v0.8.esp

Windfall.esp

Wretched Pit and Witherstone Caverns.esp

VHBloodlines 1.2.esp

Zera LeSaar's Frostrift Cavern.esp

Vampire Hunting Bloodlines Patch.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Faregyl.esp

Molapi.esp

PTMudwater.esp

Reedstand.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Arena No Raiment.esp

Auto Repair.esp

Create NPC Duplicates - Beta.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

LustyArgonianMaidContinued.esp

moremerchantmoneyv1.1.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Prox - Arena Loot v1.1.esp

AAQv1.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversRapeman.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversTachiCat2.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

LoversSlavePlay.esp

LoversBed.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversBitch.esp

LoversCreature.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

LoversLight.esp

LoversSlaveTrader.esp

SMYB Female Only.esp

ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp

Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp

Werewolf-Legends.esp

Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp

Quest Award Leveling SI.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp

MadCompanionshipSpells.esp

MCS extension.esp

Mark & Recall.esp

SetEssentialActors.esp

MidasSpells.esp

ArcaneArchery.esp

HumantouchNPC.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

tkHairPack01.esp

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

CM Partners.esp

Ayleid Arcane Archer.esp

NorthernSuthay.esp

Trokturian Cow.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp

Lilmothiit.esp

Vexend Race.esp

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

Soqui Race.esp

UVII.esp

MiniMap.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

LoversSoundCreature.esp

Female Xivilai.esp

Consume Enchantments.esp

OSM-Only female.esp

Pornostatues.esp

MONSTERGIRL-Nvgui Ancients.esp

MONSTERGIRL-Rumare Mermaid.esp

MONSTERGIRL-Torkturian Millstone Ranch.esp

Veyond Argonians.esp

DRsCyralia.esp

Jurassika.esp

Burmecian.esp

Imturzian RED ver.esp

Blackwater.esp

00CrimsonWings.esp

LoversSTVictims.esp

Water.esp

MONSTERGIRL-Fairy&Pixie.esp

Arys_Argonian.esp

Drast_Argonian.esp

Argonoid Race.esp

MONSTERGIRL-Imp into Fairy.esp

Capucine's Aquamer Race - Exnem.esp

SteelArgonianMDL.esp

NonyxiaCheetahRace.esp

mpc Companion Data.esp

Kobold_race.esp

LoversMS14netori.esp

Dagi.esp

CoC NPCs and Clothes.esp

Tojay-raht.esp

Dremora Females.esp

white argonian.esp

elPatrixF_TS_LeporidaeCompanions2.esp

ChuhraiRacebyAW_EV_v07.esp

Rhajiit.esp

Mephitis.esp

JazzJR Ocelot.esp

RingofMara.esp

Tortuous Cavern.esp

CM_Alli_shamikka.esp

Muin-Gei the Argonian.esp

LoversSummonRapeman.esp

Gorangas companion.esp

Ghost.esp

CM SPECTRA B.esp

CMKawaPartners.esp

Doberaga.esp

Drover Collie.esp

Labidori.esp

Dalmura.esp

Qaws Beast Crowded City Patch.esp

DynamicLeveledLists.esp

 

 

[gregathit]

Well, I do hate to say it but yes, you do need to do a bit of house cleaning. That mod list is pushing the envelope as to the number of mods that oblivion can handle and remain close to stable. Before uninstalling anything however you need to pop over here and look at the bottom of the OP for a better lovers load order:

Link - http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133

 

For example:

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

These two need to be at the very bottom of your load order or lovers won't work worth a darn. Truthfully all of your lovers esp files need to be at the bottom of that load order to ensure they work.

 

If you were not aware Oblivion works off of a scheme in that if there is a conflict then the lowest mod in the load order "wins". This is why lovers files with all the scripts that they have need to be at the bottom of your load order.

[Rokabur]

I've never actualy had any real problems with lovers mods with where they are in the load order. My one problem with LoversBitch was cause I forgot to allow creature rape lol. I just don't understand why the 2 animation packs screwed up NPC walking.

[Menesh]

Maybe a screwed up walking animation file or something? Do you have any mods that replace those? If yes, try removing/ reinstalling them.

 

Also gregat is right, you have like 230 mods in this list, that is almost at the limit of what Oblivion can technically handle. You should:

 

1. Get Wrye Bash and make a bashed patch. That will free several slots from patch mods Bash imports into its own patch. It may also root out conflicts that you weren't even aware of (like items not appearing in certain containers or monsters not spawning everywhere they could)

 

2. See what you can disable. For example there's no real reason to keep several custom races that don't add npcs into the game world. Bash allows easy switching between mod configurations for different savegames.

 

3. Clear out unused mods from your data directory. For some reason Oblivion can only handle a certain amount of inactive files as well. Again, Bash has the ability to automatically turn all inactive mods invisible to Oblivion.

[Rokabur]

One of the mods that are bashable i think was altered somehow cause I keep getting a message about how strength has no class or some shit. Also I got unlucky in that only 16 of those 230 mods are bashable lol.

 

I'm also searching around to find out how to add all those custom races as brand new NPC's inside Oblivion. Closest I found was just altering existing NPC's :-(

[Menesh]

One of the mods that are bashable i think was altered somehow cause I keep getting a message about how strength has no class or some shit.

Post the complete message' date=' cannot tell what's causing this otherwise.

 

Also I got unlucky in that only 16 of those 230 mods are bashable lol.

Well, 16 less to worry about.

 

I'm also searching around to find out how to add all those custom races as brand new NPC's inside Oblivion. Closest I found was just altering existing NPC's :-(

http://cs.elderscrolls.com/

CS Wiki is your friend. (You can also access it from the help menu in the construction set itself) There's a couple of basic beginner tutorials in their tutorial section.

[Rokabur]

Guess I'll try that but closest tutorial on (http://cs.elderscrolls.com) is replacing 1 NPC with a new one. I'd like to create brand new NPC's without removing existing ones.

 

Wrye Bash message I get when I try to make a Bashed patch is

 

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "bash\basher.pyo", line 6696, in Execute

File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 14186, in initFactories

File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 15530, in getReadClasses

File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 15530, in

AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'classType'

 

only response I've gotten on the forums is something about a mod being edited or something.

 

Will take a while to do anything cause It's taken 3 hours just to do un-install everything to do with oblivion lol. And will take up to about 5-6 hours to reinstall all the mods I plan to use.

[Menesh]

That error looks more like a bug in Bash itself then something with your mods. Seems they broke a couple of things with v. 295.5. Try an older version, those should work.

 

CS Wiki also has a "Basic NPC Creation Tutorial" under Actor Tutorials that you can use for starting.

[Rokabur]

Re-installed Oblivion,BOSS,OBMM and all except Lovers mods. I found Wrye Bash 294.2,downloaded and installed all the Python .exe's and now Wrye Bash won't even start.

 

Edit: downloaded standalone version of Wrye Bash 294.2 and it seems to be working so far.

 

Edit: Bashed Patch went through but still got the error

 

elPatrixF_Salamander_Race.esm: Unexpected subrecord: SPEL.OBME

Error loading SPEL record and/or subrecord: 01003EA5

eid = AbPX84Restoration

subrecord = OBME

subrecord size = 32

Error in elPatrixF_Salamander_Race.esm

 

Edit 3: A brand new missing master ( P1DcandlesForKleptos.esp) popped up AFTER the patch was done Bashing. Before I did that there were no missing masters at all.

 

Edit 4: Added only (http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2234) and NPC's and monsters are rooted in place again :-( Can't even get a few better sex animations ;-/

[Menesh]

Do you use the new cbash option for building the patch? I don't know how stable that is yet. Use the normal one instead.

That salamander race seems to require OBME to work, and that adds something that bash doesn't recognize.

I don't know that candles mod you get the missing master with. Maybe it has some patch as a master that got disabled by bash? You can just enable that again, or exclude it from being bashed.

 

If your animation error stays, you'll have to make a clean safe, activate lovers and the animation packs and then add your other mods one at a time to see if one of them is responsible.

[Rokabur]

No I didn't use the Cbash option. I'm going back through all the mods I added recently to see if they might be the cause. Author finally posted a fixed link to the esp on nexus for his one mods plus found an add-on for a mod that adds more werewolves but author had to split it to 8-9 esp's

 

Didn't think about it but guess Dynamic Leveled Lists isn't compatible with Wrye Bash or Bashed Patch needs to be excluded from DLL?

[Menesh]

According to their readme DLL should be loaded after the bashed patch, but I don't use that mod myself, so no idea if it can cause any trouble.

 

Don't just uncheck your mods, make a new clean save and work from there. There's always stuff remaining in a savegame if you just uncheck the esp.

[Rokabur]

Think I might have found the problem. Started up the save where I noticed NPC's rooted in tutorial dungeon with all mods except sequels to certain ones and Bash Patch disabled and NPC's moving just fine.

 

NVM, they moved a bit til the ambush after the goblins and then they were rooted again along with Glenroy and Uriel are now missing their heads haha

 

Edit: Downloaded a save from Nexus to test mods outside the tutorial dungeon and all NPC's are walking around fine lol. Damn tutorial dungeon is always so buggy.

[demongoat]

Re-installed Oblivion' date='BOSS,OBMM and all except Lovers mods. I found Wrye Bash 294.2,downloaded and installed all the Python .exe's and now Wrye Bash won't even start.

 

Edit: downloaded standalone version of Wrye Bash 294.2 and it seems to be working so far.

 

Edit: Bashed Patch went through but still got the error

 

elPatrixF_Salamander_Race.esm: Unexpected subrecord: SPEL.OBME

Error loading SPEL record and/or subrecord: 01003EA5

eid = AbPX84Restoration

subrecord = OBME

subrecord size = 32

Error in elPatrixF_Salamander_Race.esm

 

Edit 3: A brand new missing master ( P1DcandlesForKleptos.esp) popped up AFTER the patch was done Bashing. Before I did that there were no missing masters at all.

 

Edit 4: Added only (http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2234) and NPC's and monsters are rooted in place again :-( Can't even get a few better sex animations ;-/

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well if you don't want to use candles for kleptos you need to untick the csv in change form ids

in fact don't tick it at all.

it looks like that race is mangled, not sure what the heck SPEL.OBME is.

what mod is it?