Fort Redman crash

[Nepro]

Mod active while rebuilding Bashed Patch causes location specific crash. The crash occurs upon entering FortRedman02 area. I think the area is called Fort Redman Hall of Judges. When I deactivated Bashed Patch.esp from the load order and entered FortRedman02 I had no crashes.

 

Which mod should I skip while rebuilding my bashes patch so I no longer get the crash?

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
03  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm  [Version 3.0b]
04  Lovers with PK.esm
05  TamagoClub.esm
06  HiyokoClub.esm
07  LoversCreature.esm
08  x117race.esm
09  SDR.esm  [Version 7.3.2]
0A  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.5]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0B  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0C  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.3]
0D  Idle Dialogue.esp  [Version 1.3]
0E  300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp
0F  Populated Prisons.esp  [Version 1.2]
10  Immersive Travelers.esp
11  Streamline 3.1.esp
12  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
13  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
14  FormID Finder4.esp
15  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
16  Neph's DMRA Robe Variety.esp
17  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
18  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
19  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
1A  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
1B  See You Sleep DLL.esp
1C  See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp
1D  Vows and Covenants.esp
1E  Wyverex - Deployable Traps.esp
1F  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]
20  DLCHorseArmor.esp
21  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
22  DLCVileLair.esp
23  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
24  See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp
25  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
26  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
27  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
++  Neph's DMRA Robes - Spell Tomes.esp
++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacer.esp
28  Immersive Weapons.esp
29  Cutlasses!.esp
2A  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp
2B  Explosives.esp
2C  Neck Seam Concealers Expanded.esp  [Version 1.1-SI]
2D  Neck Seam Concealers Expanded DD.esp  [Version 1.1]
2E  Neck Seam Concealers Expanded LL.esp  [Version 1.1-SI-AT]
2F  Thieves Arsenal.esp
30  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp
31  R18PN - Lingeries.esp
32  R18PN - Lingeries Plus.esp
33  DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp  [Version 1.3]
34  Colourwheels Sexy Lady Outfit.esp
35  Vanilla Maternity Clothes.esp
36  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp  [Version 3.0b]
++  Hemingweys Capes Improved No Tail Capes Patch.esp
++  Hemingweys VAN Boss Chest Cape Loot.esp  [Version 3.0b]
++  Hemingweys VAN NPC Capes Improved Citizens Lite.esp  [Version 3.0b]
++  Hemingweys VAN NPC Capes Improved Enemies.esp  [Version 3.0b]
++  Hemingweys VAN NPC Capes Improved IC Guards.esp  [Version 3.0b]
++  Hemingweys VAN NPC Capes Improved Legion Forester.esp  [Version 3.0b]
++  Hemingweys VAN NPC Capes Improved Regional City Guards.esp  [Version 3.0b]
37  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
**  TamrielTravellers Vwalk.esp
++  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]
38  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
**  ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp
++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]
39  BOO Less New Armor.esp
3A  TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp
**  TamrielTransportationNetwork Vwalk.esp
3B  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
3C  Fighters Guild Quests.esp
3D  Jail Break Escape Routes.esp
3E  Mages Guild Quests.esp
3F  Servant of the Dawn.esp
++  Shady Sam Enhanced.esp
40  Whispered Warning.esp
41  za_bankmod.esp
42  M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp  [Version 3]
43  Banes Guilds United.esp
44  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
45  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
46  M.O.E. - New Classes.esp  [Version 1]
47  Nephs Unique Thievery.esp
++  ExpandedGreetings.esp  [Version 1.0]
48  GuildAdvancementBGU.esp
49  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
4A  SetBody.esp
4B  LoversTamagoClub.esp
4C  HiyokoGenerator.esp
4D  HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp
4E  TamagoSetBody.esp
4F  LoversAdultYield.esp
50  LoversChorus.esp
51  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
52  LoversHooker.esp  [Version 2.2]
53  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
54  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
55  LoversRaperS.esp
56  LoversJoburg.esp
57  LoversBed.esp
58  TamagoDischarge.esp
59  LoversHiyokoShooter.esp
5A  HiyokoFutureDream.esp  [Version y]
5B  LoversPayBandit.esp
5C  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v4a]
5D  LoversCreature.esp
5E  LoversAchievments.esp
++  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp
++  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_UOPS.esp
++  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_TT.esp
++  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_TT_Dogs.esp
5F  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
60  Nudeshy X.esp
61  Nudeshy Undergarments.esp
62  ATakesAll.esp
63  Unarmored Skill for Everyone.esp  [Version 3.0.4]
++  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
64  Ashes to Ashes.esp  [Version 1.0]
65  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp  [Version 2.12]
66  Unholy Darkness.esp
67  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
68  MCS extension.esp
69  Mysterious Bear's Epic Necromancy + EM.esp
++  spelliconreplace.esp
6A  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
6B  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
6C  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
6D  MidasSpells.esp
6E  AudaciousMagery.esp
6F  Pestilent Afflictions.esp
70  Real Time Lockpicking Minigames.esp
71  IThieveryRaise.esp
72  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
73  SM Hand Combat.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  Specialanims.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Dialog.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
++  Tolkien Elves Voice Fix.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
++  EyelashesForVanillaRaces1.0.esp  [Version y]
74  pussyfur.esp
75  Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp
++  LevelSlow-4x.esp
++  Sensual Walks.esp
++  Sensual Walks SI.esp
++  Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
++  SDR_Detect Life Shader Patch [Oblivion].esp  [Version 5.0.0]
76  SDR_Perks And Patches [Oblivion].esp  [Version 7.3.0]
77  UVIII.esp
78  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
79  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 4.0]
7A  Neph's DMRA Robes - Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
7B  LoversMB2.esp
7C  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
7D  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
7E  DMRA Stock Player Only.esp
7F  pmRealTimeInteractions.esp
80  pmCrimeHandler.esp

[gregathit]

Why do you have anything other than the 3 lovers plugins under your bashed patch?  I'd try moving everything other than the lovers stuff above the bashed patch and then rebuild it.

 

Before you do that, start a new game and then go to the problem area and see if it crashes then.  It could be you have conflicts built into your saved game.

 

If none of the above works then I recommend looking at what type of NPC's are in the fort and then use Tes4edit to find what mods are altering those NPC's (or adding them) and that should help you hunt down the conflict.

[Nepro]

Why do you have anything other than the 3 lovers plugins under your bashed patch?

 

 

Those are PrettyMurky's plugins. He recommend to put them below bashed patch. I chose to put the below lovers anim plugins because wherever I put pm plugins I received crashes. Placing pm plugins on the bottom prevented crashes. It made my game fairly stable. I don't get random crashes. I either screw somethings up that leads to CTD or get location specific crash like in the fort Redman.

 

Before you do that, start a new game and then go to the problem area and see if it crashes then.

 

 

Damn it! I made my new game character go to the fortredman02 and got no CTD.

 

It could be you have conflicts built into your saved game.

 

 

It looks lie some conflicts built into the save game. Are there any solutions except starting a new game or loading an older save?

 

I recommend looking at what type of NPC's are in the fort and then use Tes4edit to find what mods are altering those NPC's (or adding them) and that should help you hunt down the conflict.

 

I checked the mod list and the trouble plugins are StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp & Unholy Darkness.esp. StarX Vampires modifies the very dungeon where the crash occurs while I dunno what kind of maliciousness Unholy Darkness contributes to the conflict. There doesn't seem to be any wacko stuff when I compared two plugins.

 

I managed to find a workaround. When rebuilding the Bashed Patch I deactivated StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp & Unholy Darkness.esp so they wouldn't get into Bashed Patch. It fixed the crash.

[gregathit]

Good job!  Most crashes can be resolved in exactly the same way.

 

As for cleaning your saved game......here is what you can try:

1.  Disable all offending plugins.

2.  Start the game and load your saved game.

3.  After it loads (it may give you a prompt about missing plugins - ignore this) then make a manual save (hit the escape key and make a manual one).

4.  Exit the game.

5.  Enable all plugins and restart the game.

6.  Load your newly created saved game and travel to the fort and see if you crash.

 

The above procedure is often referred to as creating a clean save.