Havick1988 Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Was wondering if anyone knew if oblivion generates a crash log or not. Or if it is possible to get one generated. I would like to be able to view it so that I can see the conflicts of some of my mods and patch them if possible. It's rather irritating that I have the CTD on exit when all the mods are as clean as I can make them. I would just like to be able to get the game as stable as possible so that it can be played for hours without the random crashing. And possibly merge multiple mod files into one esm or esp
gregathit Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Unfortunately it does not generate a log that is usable in the sense that you are talking about. Wyre Bash is an excellent tool to help make a merged patch that can cure some of your woes. Tes4edit is another great tool which you can use to clean mods of dirty edits. Lastly TesGecko can combine small armor\weapons plugins into one esp\esm - I don't recommend doing this with large plugins or anything that has scripts in it. Use Wyre Bash to make a "virtual" merged file instead. Lastly, don't be afraid to post your load order for some of the veterans to review.
Havick1988 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 Here's my load order. though nothing strikes me personally as being grossly wrong with it, I've run Tes4Edit on every mod, and most of them were already cleaned. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0] 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta] 05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1] 06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] 07 Lovers with PK.esm 08 TamagoClub.esm 09 HiyokoClub.esm 0A LoversCreature.esm 0B x117race.esm 0C Chanpon.esm 0D Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.4.1] 0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.4] 0F UOPS Additional Changes.esp 10 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 11 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 12 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 13 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 14 Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp 15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0] 16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0] 17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0] 18 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0] ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] 19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] 1A OBGE - Liquid Water.esp 1B WindowLightingSystem.esp 1C AliveWaters.esp 1D AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 1E AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 1F DLCHorseArmor.esp 20 DLCOrrery.esp 21 DLCVileLair.esp 22 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 23 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 24 DLCThievesDen.esp 25 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 26 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] 27 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09] 28 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] 29 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta] 2A Better Cities .esp 2B VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp [Version 5.3.0] 2C Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.4.1] 2D Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.4.0] 2E 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp 2F Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 5.3.0] 30 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp 31 FCOM_BetterCities-Bravil.esp [Version 5.4.1] 32 OldCrowInn.esp 33 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1] 34 FCOM_OscurosOverhaul.esp [Version 0.9.8] 35 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8] 36 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_NoSpiders.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_NoWyverns.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] 37 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.8b1] ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9] ** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] ** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] 38 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9] 39 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9] 3A FCOM_VanillaItemReleveler.esp 3B FCOM_NewItemsTemplate.esp [Version 0.9.4] 3C DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 3D DLCFrostcrag.esp 3E Knights.esp 3F Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp ++ Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1] ++ FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.9] 40 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 41 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 42 xulTheHeath.esp 43 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] 44 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 45 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] 46 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] 47 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] 48 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] 49 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] 4A xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] 4B xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 4C xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 4D xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] 4E xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] 4F xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 50 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3] 51 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] 52 xulPantherRiver.esp 53 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 54 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] 55 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] 56 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] 57 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 58 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] 59 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] 5A xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] 5B xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] 5C xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] 5D xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] ++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp 5E Morrowind Lockpicking.esp 5F DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 60 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.0] ++ 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp 61 From2ch Lives.esp 62 From2ch Lives Boss.esp 63 F2L_FaceChange.esp 64 moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp 65 Ta22's 01Army.esp 66 117NPCs.esp 67 F2LAddon_MSElves.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 68 F2LHideRaces.esp 69 City Life-x117.esp 6A FutaPriory.esp 6B RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 6C Vanilla Maternity Clothes.esp 6D BreakArmor.esp [Version 1.10.f] 6E TamagoPlayerHUD.esp [Version 2.0] 6F TamagoBreak.esp 70 TamagoNews.esp 71 TamagoShop.esp 72 TamagoTopic.esp 73 TamagoConfide.esp 74 LoversTamagoClub.esp 75 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 76 LoversEncounter.esp 77 HiyokoGenetics.esp 78 HiyokoGenerator.esp 79 HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 7A TamagoSetBody.esp 7B LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 7C LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 7D LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversHooker.esp 7E LoversRaperS.esp 7F LoversJoburg.esp 80 LoversBed.esp 81 PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp 82 LoversPayBandit.esp 83 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v4a] 84 LoversBitch.esp 85 LoversCreature.esp 86 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 87 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 88 LSTBravilUnderground.esp 89 LSTaddonInH.esp 8A PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp 8B LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 8C LoversBreakArmor.esp 8D LoversSetScale.esp 8E LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] 8F LoversClubCatsSx.esp 90 LoversImmoralGuards.esp 91 LoversChorus.esp 92 SetBody.esp 93 SetbodyBB.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 94 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 95 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 96 LoversMB2.esp 97 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 98 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 99 Lovers3dorgasm.esp 9A LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Some hints: 1. When you see this: ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversHooker.esp You need to fix it as that could lead to part of your instability. 2. x117race.esp and x117Race ENG Race.esp should be UNDER your MBP files and not way up top. 3. UOP is probably unnecessary. Why fix something that your two overhauls are already changing? OOO makes UOP obsolete as it changes so much of the vanilla game already. 4. Probably should have your official DLC up above the FCOM stuff. If FCOM specifically tells you otherwise then follow that. 5. Probably should not be running: moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp City Life-x117.esp You already have the From2chan Lives plugins which are adding a SHITLOAD of NPC's into the game (something like 300 plus). Having these on top of that is just asking for NPC overload and CTD's. Best of luck to you.
Havick1988 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 Ok Ill fix those, and the UOP is a requirement for FCOM and as far as the mod order for the DLC that was set up by BOSS so i'm not to sure on whether or not that should be moved for those Edit: took care of those problems, and on a recheck of tes4Edit I noticed that LoversBreakArmor.esp and Lovers With PK.esp have a conflict of not finding a script for scn xLoversCmnAddBreakUndiesMod not sure if that is intentional or nor
gregathit Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 You need the break armor framework: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13907-break-armor-framework/ As for FCOM requiring UOP......meh. I think that is probably a VERY old requirement that no one bothered to update myself. OOO touches almost every single quest in the game, so what is the point of fixing a vanilla game that is already changed. I don't run FCOM myself, but do use OOO and have NEVER used UOP. Either way is fine, as that "should not" be the major source of your crashes anyways. BOSS is NOT infallible. It is a bulk sorter that quickly sets "most" things where they go. You need to understand what you have and what it does, so you can double check BOSS. Trusting it blindly just means you'll never be able to fix things if it goes sideways on you. Remember that you will need to rebuild your bashed patch for the changes to take effect and that you MUST disable all your lovers esm\esp files prior to rebuilding it. Finally start a new game to test things and see if you notice improvements.
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