Smokermegadrive Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 As the title says i get a constant amount of ctd in the area near windhelmFast travelling from windhelm to windhelm stable is always a ctdand walking in the area happen the same after some minutes, even exiting from the docks or entering the cellI tried removing mods, remove some scripts, cleaning mods and start a new game, but nothing seems to workwell here my load list and the papyrus log 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Falskaar.esm 06 RaceCompatibility.esm 07 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 08 berserkraces.esm 09 Depths_of_Cavern_AddCell.esm 0A ElinRace.esm [Version 20120814] 0B ElinRaceTaint.esm 0C fox_shop.esm 0D Night Eye Overhaul.esm 0E phiNoFF.esm 0F SGHairPackBase.esm 10 SkyMoMod.esm 11 Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm 12 WinterholdDestruction.esm 13 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 14 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp 15 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.2] 16 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.1.1] 17 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 18 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 19 ElinRaceVoice - ElinVoice.esp 1A BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp 1B ColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp 1C Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp 1D FixCombatMusic.esp 1E PersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp 1F VanillaReducedTexturesDB.esp 20 Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp 21 BooksBooksBooks.esp 22 dbmisc.esp 23 DFB - Random Encounters.esp 24 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp 25 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0] 26 LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp 27 Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp 28 Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp 29 More Craftables.esp 2A Convertible Azura's Star.esp 2B moredragonloot.esp 2C People Have Lanterns.esp 2D SeverinManorImprovements.esp 2E Unleveled_Skyrim_Items.esp 2F Unleveled_Dragonborn_Items.esp 30 ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp 31 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 32 KaceAutoloot.esp 33 Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp 34 Mart's Savegame DeBloatifier.esp [Version 1.4Beta] 35 RaceMenu.esp 36 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 37 SkyTweak.esp 38 SkyUI.esp 39 Enhanced 3rd Person Camera.esp 3A Berserk Black Swordsman Armor.esp [Version 1.0] 3B Cloaks.esp 3C ConvenientCrossbows.esp 3D Craftable Artifacts.esp 3E Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp 3F Dragonslayer.esp 40 Enchantress.esp 41 Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp 42 GR123 Knights Templar.esp 43 OchinClothingMod02_WitchHat_Edit00.esp 44 Solitude Furniture.esp 45 TERA Weapons.esp 46 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.4] 47 Dr_Bandolier.esp 48 Dr_BandolierDG.esp 49 ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp 4A 02_solstheim_extended.esp 4B 03_solstheim_extendend.esp 4C CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 4D Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp 4E Forgotten Windmill.esp 4F ForgottenSettlements.esp 50 Freedom of Speech.esp 51 Freedom of Speech -- Dawnguard.esp 52 Gifts Of The Outsider.esp 53 MountainCitys.esp 54 RavenNest.esp 55 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 1.0.3] 56 Solstheim - The Lost Levels.esp 57 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.4] 58 Weightless Elder Scroll.esp 59 Masters of Death.esp 5A ArchmageTolfdir.esp 5B Better Miraak's Sword.esp 5C Bounty Gold.esp [Version 1.0] 5D Headtracking.esp 5E RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp 5F Serana No Hood.esp 60 Shadow Remover.esp 61 Skyrim bigger trees.esp 62 Convenient Horses.esp 63 Superjump_2x.esp 64 Stronger Daedric Artifacts.esp 65 Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp 66 UnlimitedEnchantments.esp 67 Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp 68 DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp 69 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp 6A Helgen Reborn.esp [Version 104] 6B ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp 6C Better Vampires ML.esp 6D Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 6E WerewolfMastery.esp 6F WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp 70 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 71 Balanced_Magic.esp 72 NEO Tint 1.esp 73 NEO Longer Lasting Potions.esp 74 NEO Persistent Spell.esp 75 Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp 76 SummonArvakVoiceSpell.esp 77 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp 78 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp 79 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp 7A Night Eye Overhaul.esp 7B ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp 7C Artifact Disenchanting.esp 7D Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp 7E Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp 7F FormsEdit.esp 80 Realistic crime report radius.esp 81 Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp 82 ArmorPerkHelmetRemover.esp 83 zzzSXP.esp 84 ElinRaceIdle.esp 85 hornsareforever.esp 86 MikuHairElin.esp 87 SG Hair 220 AllinTwo.esp 88 Monli.esp (Little Monli from this forum) 89 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 8A UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 8B UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp 8C My Home Is Your Home.esp 8D No NPC Greetings.esp 8E My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp 8F smbw_serana.esp 90 Spousetocustomhome.esp 91 moveit.esp 92 BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 93 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 94 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 95 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 96 Duns_Inc_Shaders_Begone.esp 97 Duns_Inc_Shaders_Begone_xWeapons.esp 98 Atlas Map Markers.esp 99 Atlas Blackreach.esp 9A Atlas Dawnguard.esp 9B Atlas Hearthfire.esp 9C Atlas Dragonborn.esp 9D HlaaluRetreat.esp 9E Depths_of_Cavern_CellModify.esp 9F testacrobat.esp A0 Sweeping Twohanders lite.esp A1 NEO Longer Lasting Scrolls.esp A2 DwemerColosseum.esp A3 BerserkOutfits.esp (homemade merged plugin) A4 skullknightarmor.esp A5 Skyrim Realistic Weather Mod v1.4.esp A6 ElinRace Enemy.esp A7 FoxMerged.esp A8 IShdr1bloom0_All.esp A9 WeaponsMerged.esp (homemade merged plugin) AA Backpacks.esp (homemade merged plugin) AB LoliArmors.esp (homemade merged plugin) AC Dark Souls Weapons.esp AD Mini Vamps.esp AE Ivarstead4000.esp AF elin new body.esp B0 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.3.3b] B1 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp B2 warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp B3 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp other things to denote:I Have a very shitty rig, but the game worked fine until today:Cpu: Intel Celeron G530 2.40 GHz x2Ram: 2 GBGpu: Intel HD Graphics 3000I don't use any ENB or retexture on the windhelm areaany help is apreciatedgood night and sorry my englishEdit: well fast travelling to another cell seems to work fine with no ctd, but i still want to fix this if i really need to go to this cellPapyrus.0.log.7z
Lodakai Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 Moonlight Tales is working pretty hard to get its functions working with your current load. That does not necessarily mean that this mod is the problem. I personally use it with no problems. Although skyrim can support 256 mods as a hard cap... Loading scripted mods beyond the 7F range has been problematical in the past. Papyrus references these mods as a negative number. Because of this, some script functions may not work properly. I do not know if these issues with papyrus have been addressed since I last read about this particular limitation. Putting pressure on papyrus can also cause these kind of issues on low end rigs. Mods such as Player headtracking, and moonlight tales produce really cool things in your game. But these cool effects require resources that when stacked on top of one another.. can make your game unstable if your PC cannot handle it. You could possibly be stacking too many high demanding mods for your rig to handle them. Although you do not use ENB, video card issues are not the only problems that lead to lag and crash to desktop. You must also worry about your CPU, core temperatures, as well as the limitations of skyrims papyrus script system. Testing game stability by removing mods from a game in progress will produce inconclusive results as well. Scripts remain orphaned in your save file even without their parent mod loaded ( or even on your hard drive for that matter). If your stability issue is always around windhelm, you can try to use Alternate Start (Already in your load order) to load at a nearby inn and test stability with a "NEW GAME" that way. And by new I mean new from the very start... not from a save file at the beginning. Remove all your mods and prioritize the ones you want to play with the most. Test stability.. if all is well, you can add to your mod load this way. You do not need to load everything from the start.. and it is not advised to remove ANY once you have started them. So a good rule of thumb.. do not load what you will not use until you need it (unless the author specifies that you should). For example, maybe it is best not to load Falskaar at the start of your game until you feel your character wants to embark on that quest. Once you hit his recommended level (I think it was 20) you can create a save file.. then load it. If that leads to issues you always have a bookmark that you can roll back to. If you feel that your rig is crap.. then perhaps you should try to put FAR less of a load on it than what you have now. Try to reduce your number of mods to 25% of what you have now. Prioritize your favorites. If you then feel you can handle more.. add more later. EDIT: Note! You have convenient horses in your load order as well. They have included a handy script pinging tool in their MCM. Run the script latency function in that mods MCM to check your latency (I think it was the second or third option on the left side). It should be pretty well below 100. You can use this to guage if what I am describing is your potential problem.
Smokermegadrive Posted October 27, 2013 Author Posted October 27, 2013 Well i actually reinstalled the game because i lost most of my save and the game started to crash in the whiterun stable as well, so i have nothing to lose at all (except some mods maybe)Anyway those advise will be useful in the future, and yes i used to had a load of mods that i never used or i was waiting to start to use, maybe i will take your advise to activate when i need it, and try to avoid some script intensive modother thing that i noticed is when i try to open some mods menus in mcm after playing for a while result in ctd most of the time (except for very fews) maybe im overloading the game or this pcThanks for the helpand i will check that function from convenient horses(again sorry my english)
Lodakai Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 Smoke since you are starting fresh. Consider using mod organizer this time around to have a bit more control over your load order. It is highly beneficial when using such a large number of mods. When you mod that heavily, it is also beneficial to use a guide such as the step project. http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.7 NOTE: I do not agree with all their modification recommendations beyond section 2F.. at this stage you should try to stick to what you know and desire over what they suggest. Good luck! I hope the reinstall will bring you a more stable and enjoyable game!
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Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 As the title says i get a constant amount of ctd in the area near windhelm Fast travelling from windhelm to windhelm stable is always a ctd and walking in the area happen the same after some minutes, even exiting from the docks or entering the cell I tried removing mods, remove some scripts, cleaning mods and start a new game, but nothing seems to work well here my load list and the papyrus log 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Falskaar.esm 06 RaceCompatibility.esm 07 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 08 berserkraces.esm 09 Depths_of_Cavern_AddCell.esm 0A ElinRace.esm [Version 20120814] 0B ElinRaceTaint.esm 0C fox_shop.esm 0D Night Eye Overhaul.esm 0E phiNoFF.esm 0F SGHairPackBase.esm 10 SkyMoMod.esm 11 Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm 12 WinterholdDestruction.esm 13 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 14 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp 15 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.2] 16 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.1.1] 17 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 18 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 19 ElinRaceVoice - ElinVoice.esp 1A BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp 1B ColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp 1C Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp 1D FixCombatMusic.esp 1E PersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp 1F VanillaReducedTexturesDB.esp 20 Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp 21 BooksBooksBooks.esp 22 dbmisc.esp 23 DFB - Random Encounters.esp 24 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp 25 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0] 26 LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp 27 Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp 28 Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp 29 More Craftables.esp 2A Convertible Azura's Star.esp 2B moredragonloot.esp 2C People Have Lanterns.esp 2D SeverinManorImprovements.esp 2E Unleveled_Skyrim_Items.esp 2F Unleveled_Dragonborn_Items.esp 30 ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp 31 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 32 KaceAutoloot.esp 33 Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp 34 Mart's Savegame DeBloatifier.esp [Version 1.4Beta] 35 RaceMenu.esp 36 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 37 SkyTweak.esp 38 SkyUI.esp 39 Enhanced 3rd Person Camera.esp 3A Berserk Black Swordsman Armor.esp [Version 1.0] 3B Cloaks.esp 3C ConvenientCrossbows.esp 3D Craftable Artifacts.esp 3E Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp 3F Dragonslayer.esp 40 Enchantress.esp 41 Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp 42 GR123 Knights Templar.esp 43 OchinClothingMod02_WitchHat_Edit00.esp 44 Solitude Furniture.esp 45 TERA Weapons.esp 46 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.4] 47 Dr_Bandolier.esp 48 Dr_BandolierDG.esp 49 ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp 4A 02_solstheim_extended.esp 4B 03_solstheim_extendend.esp 4C CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 4D Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp 4E Forgotten Windmill.esp 4F ForgottenSettlements.esp 50 Freedom of Speech.esp 51 Freedom of Speech -- Dawnguard.esp 52 Gifts Of The Outsider.esp 53 MountainCitys.esp 54 RavenNest.esp 55 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 1.0.3] 56 Solstheim - The Lost Levels.esp 57 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.4] 58 Weightless Elder Scroll.esp 59 Masters of Death.esp 5A ArchmageTolfdir.esp 5B Better Miraak's Sword.esp 5C Bounty Gold.esp [Version 1.0] 5D Headtracking.esp 5E RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp 5F Serana No Hood.esp 60 Shadow Remover.esp 61 Skyrim bigger trees.esp 62 Convenient Horses.esp 63 Superjump_2x.esp 64 Stronger Daedric Artifacts.esp 65 Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp 66 UnlimitedEnchantments.esp 67 Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp 68 DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp 69 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp 6A Helgen Reborn.esp [Version 104] 6B ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp 6C Better Vampires ML.esp 6D Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 6E WerewolfMastery.esp 6F WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp 70 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 71 Balanced_Magic.esp 72 NEO Tint 1.esp 73 NEO Longer Lasting Potions.esp 74 NEO Persistent Spell.esp 75 Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp 76 SummonArvakVoiceSpell.esp 77 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp 78 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp 79 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp 7A Night Eye Overhaul.esp 7B ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp 7C Artifact Disenchanting.esp 7D Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp 7E Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp 7F FormsEdit.esp 80 Realistic crime report radius.esp 81 Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp 82 ArmorPerkHelmetRemover.esp 83 zzzSXP.esp 84 ElinRaceIdle.esp 85 hornsareforever.esp 86 MikuHairElin.esp 87 SG Hair 220 AllinTwo.esp 88 Monli.esp (Little Monli from this forum) 89 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 8A UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 8B UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp 8C My Home Is Your Home.esp 8D No NPC Greetings.esp 8E My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp 8F smbw_serana.esp 90 Spousetocustomhome.esp 91 moveit.esp 92 BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 93 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 94 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 95 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 96 Duns_Inc_Shaders_Begone.esp 97 Duns_Inc_Shaders_Begone_xWeapons.esp 98 Atlas Map Markers.esp 99 Atlas Blackreach.esp 9A Atlas Dawnguard.esp 9B Atlas Hearthfire.esp 9C Atlas Dragonborn.esp 9D HlaaluRetreat.esp 9E Depths_of_Cavern_CellModify.esp 9F testacrobat.esp A0 Sweeping Twohanders lite.esp A1 NEO Longer Lasting Scrolls.esp A2 DwemerColosseum.esp A3 BerserkOutfits.esp (homemade merged plugin) A4 skullknightarmor.esp A5 Skyrim Realistic Weather Mod v1.4.esp A6 ElinRace Enemy.esp A7 FoxMerged.esp A8 IShdr1bloom0_All.esp A9 WeaponsMerged.esp (homemade merged plugin) AA Backpacks.esp (homemade merged plugin) AB LoliArmors.esp (homemade merged plugin) AC Dark Souls Weapons.esp AD Mini Vamps.esp AE Ivarstead4000.esp AF elin new body.esp B0 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.3.3b] B1 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp B2 warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp B3 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp other things to denote: I Have a very shitty rig, but the game worked fine until today: Cpu: Intel Celeron G530 2.40 GHz x2 Ram: 2 GB Gpu: Intel HD Graphics 3000 I don't use any ENB or retexture on the windhelm area any help is apreciated good night and sorry my english Edit: well fast travelling to another cell seems to work fine with no ctd, but i still want to fix this if i really need to go to this cell Papyrus.0.log.7z Dont see unofficial skyrim patch which also is essential also i find out for example skyrim bigger trees couses CTD for me i removed them and gone CDT but it also has to do with what kind mods installed prolly. You prolly also surpass the limited of 3.1gb installed mods you just cant install more or imment CDT will happen nomatter what.
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