LeonKyros Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 If anyone can help me figure this out I would greatly appreciate it. Before it wasn't so bad crashing every now and then so I saved almost every minute (normal save never quicksaves) however now it's crashing every chance it gets, from within conversations to just walking around. Attached is the full load order from LOOT of what I have. I am not sure if I have incompatible mods or what. I have tried to disable some at a time to try to narrow it down but that has proven to be well less fruitful. Pos-Index-Plugin Name 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 254 FE 0 MTM-NukaTownEastArchwayFix.esl 8 8 HUDFramework.esm 9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm 10 a XDI.esm 254 FE 1 BakaFramework.esm 11 b WorkshopFramework.esm 12 c DCGuard_Overhaul.esp 13 d SS2.esm 14 e SS2_XPAC_Chapter2.esm 15 f AAF.esm 254 FE 2 Dogs can grab player.esl 16 10 Loads.esm 17 11 NewCalibers.esp 18 12 ProjectMojave.esm 254 FE 3 ammoUI_by_tooun.esl 254 FE 4 AAFThemes.esl 19 13 TortureDevices.esm 20 14 MaleBodies_AMPatch.esm 254 FE 5 UlfEquip.esm 254 FE 6 Bememoth Separated Cart.esl 21 15 SkimpyArmorKeywordResource.esm 22 16 Devious Devices.esm 23 17 SettlementKeywords.esm 24 18 EthreonMasterPlan.esm 25 19 Homemaker.esm 254 FE 7 HoloDisplay.esl 26 1a Snap'n Build.esm 254 FE 8 Working_Aquariums.esl 27 1b TrueStormsFO4.esm 28 1c Robot Home Defence.esm 29 1d CWSS Redux.esp 30 1e TacticalReload.esm 254 FE 9 IngameLoadingCrashFix.esl 31 1f RSE_II_Resources.esm 254 FE a Quick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.esl 32 20 FlirtyCommonwealth.esp 33 21 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp 34 22 PIP-Pad.esp 35 23 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp 254 FE b DiscreteFemaleSkeleton.esp 36 24 PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp 37 25 HN66Fo4_TRS.esp 38 26 HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp 39 27 KziitdAnimationPoses.esp 40 28 Clean & Smooth - Commonwealth Collection.esp 41 29 RealHandcuffs.esp 42 2a Nuka Ride.esp 43 2b Another Pine Forest Mod.esp 44 2c NukaWorldPlus.esp 45 2d Boston Breeder.esp 46 2e WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp 47 2f nuka_world_settlements.esp 48 30 3DNPC_FO4.esp 49 31 Armorsmith Extended.esp 50 32 AM Skingen.esp 51 33 Generalofthearmy.esp 52 34 Campsite.esp 53 35 Fixed_Rexford.esp 54 36 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp 55 37 GoodneighborExpanded.esp 56 38 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp 57 39 CleanSettlement Greenhouse.esp 58 3a America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp 59 3b FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp 60 3c Duke your New Best Freind.esp 61 3d CombinedArmsNV.esp 62 3e CombinedArmsEXPack.esp 63 3f QBZ191.esp 64 40 BetterFarHarbor_Open.esp 65 41 Sanctuary Pre-Walled.esp 66 42 AA FusionCityRising.esp 67 43 FunctionalDisplays.esp 68 44 DansesWearableHolotags_v01-2.esp 69 45 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp 70 46 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp 71 47 INVB_WastelandDairy.esp 72 48 NukaRDC.esp 254 FE c INVB_WastelandStory.esp 73 49 INVB_WastelandOffspring.esp 74 4a BeastWhisperer.esp 75 4b NightstrikerCreatureMod.esp 76 4c AnimalLoverWastelandSeducer.esp 254 FE d Unused Map Markers - Cut Content Restored.esp 77 4d CheatTerminal.esp 78 4e BoundInPublic.esp 79 4f InstituteSettlements2.esp 80 50 SS2_FDK_TinyLiving.esp 81 51 MagnoCumGaudio.esp 82 52 Beggar_Whore.esp 83 53 AA HotC - Standalone.esp 84 54 F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp 85 55 RSE_II_CSA.esp 86 56 RSE_II_AbductionsAddonPack.esp 87 57 SS2WastelandVenturers.esp 88 58 [SS2 Addon] SimSettlements SuperStructures.esp 89 59 Atomic Lust.esp 254 FE e Obi Casual Outfit.esp 90 5a Nuka Ride CWSS Patch.esp 91 5b CCOFoxyFactionsCraftable.esp 92 5c SexEd.esp 93 5d ZaZOut4.esp 94 5e FP_SexualHarassment.esp 95 5f AFVPurgatory.esp 96 60 Raider Pet.esp 97 61 Extended weapon mods.esp 98 62 Minutemenoverhaul.esp 254 FE f Atomic Muscle.esp 99 63 STEALTH AND DETECTION SYSTEM(base).esp 100 64 ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp 254 FE 10 IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp 254 FE 11 ImmersiveRadiation.esp 254 FE 12 CompanionStatus-Settings.esp 101 65 AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp 102 66 ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp 103 67 GibsofGlory.esp 104 68 FIS-Naming-Weap-Armo-EN.esp 254 FE 13 M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp 105 69 WheelMenu.esp 254 FE 14 ss2c23dnpcpatch.esp 106 6a DX_Black_Widow.esp 107 6b FCOM.esp 108 6c AnimChemRedux.esp 109 6d AnimatedRadaway.esp 110 6e SavageCabbage_Animations.esp 111 6f LooksMenu.esp 112 70 Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp 254 FE 15 AM Skingen - Automatron.esp 254 FE 16 AM Skingen - Far Harbour.esp 254 FE 17 AM Skingen - Nuka World.esp 113 71 CBBE.esp 114 72 AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp 115 73 AAF_GrayAnimations.esp 116 74 Farelle_Animations.esp 117 75 Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp 118 76 FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp 119 77 Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp 120 78 Crazy_Multi-Tool.esp 121 79 AAF_CreaturePack01.esp 122 7a Rufgt's Animations.esp 123 7b AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp 124 7c AAF_SEU.esp 125 7d Mutated Lust.esp 126 7e BraveAnims.esp 254 FE 18 SnapdragonAnimations.esp 127 7f RZSex.esp 128 80 CumOverlays.esp 129 81 AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp 254 FE 19 Behemoth No Cart.esp 254 FE 1a BraveAnims_Fix.esp 130 82 Deathclaw_nude.esp 131 83 SS2_Addon_PSC_Plots.esp 254 FE 1b PenPos.esp 132 84 UAP Moans.esp 254 FE 1c Zaz Particle Effects.esp 133 85 AAF_Violate.esp 254 FE 1d AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp 254 FE 1e AAF_Violate_FCOM_Patch.esp 254 FE 1f AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp 254 FE 20 AAF_Violate_Nightstriker_Patch.esp 134 86 FPEAddonPack.esp 135 87 FPE_Resources.esp 136 88 INVB_Enslavement.esp 137 89 INVB_WastelandResources.esp 254 FE 21 RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp 254 FE 22 RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp 138 8a Just Business.esp 254 FE 23 RealHandcuffs_JB_Compatibility.esp 139 8b FPAttributes.esp 140 8c SlaveTattoos.esp 141 8d VtawWardrobe8.esp 142 8e TatsAfterRape.esp 143 8f AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp 144 90 DangerousNights.esp 145 91 GetDirty.esp 254 FE 24 AAF_Dirty_Sex.esp 146 92 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 147 93 KSHairdos.esp 148 94 BobbleGirl.esp 149 95 FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp 150 96 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp 151 97 LongerPowerLines3x.esp 152 98 ASVektor.esp 153 99 NanoSuit.esp 154 9a DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp 155 9b The Eyes Of Beauty.esp 156 9c The Eyes of Beauty Looking Stranger.esp 157 9d TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 158 9e AdvBubbleTurretSet-RealNP.esp 159 9f AlternateFurniture.esp 160 a0 AlternateSettlements.esp 161 a1 Better Vendor Stalls.esp 162 a2 MinutemenPropaganda.esp 163 a3 NPC Spawner.esp 164 a4 Northland Diggers.esp 165 a5 Northland.esp 166 a6 Settle-SRR.esp 167 a7 TD_DLC01Workshop_Addons.esp 168 a8 CCOSaucySettlersCraftable.esp 169 a9 CCOVulgarVillainsCraftable.esp 170 aa 3DNPC brothel clothing.esp 254 FE 25 SEU_Voiced_Extension.esp 171 ab ButcherMeatRack.esp 254 FE 26 BuildableNukaStuff.esp 172 ac Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp 173 ad Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp 174 ae SSEX.esp 175 af SettlementMenuManager.esp 176 b0 ClothingShelves.esp 177 b1 Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp 178 b2 InsElevator.esp 254 FE 27 DiamondCityExpansion-RedSeat.esp 254 FE 28 DCENS.esp 179 b3 EFF.esp 180 b4 FilledBrahminFeedTroughs.esp 181 b5 cVc Fishery.esp 182 b6 Girls Workshop.esp 254 FE 29 HotC_AAF_Scenes.esp 183 b7 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp 184 b8 SimSettlements2_AddOnPack_ApocalypticAdditions_SirLach.esp 254 FE 2a SS2AOP_VaultTecTools.esp 185 b9 SS2_Addon_R2R.esp 186 ba AES_Renovated Furniture.esp 187 bb RRTV_MyFirstInfirmary.esp 254 FE 2b eXoMagazineShelf.esp 188 bc SS2WastelandReconstructionKit.esp 189 bd Passthrough.esp 190 be 10mmRevolver.esp 191 bf Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp 192 c0 BattleRifle.esp 193 c1 DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp 194 c2 M14.esp 195 c3 M2216.esp 196 c4 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp 197 c5 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp 198 c6 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp 199 c7 LadyKillerBed.esp 200 c8 Workshop Planters For Crops.esp 201 c9 BetterJunkFences.esp 202 ca SS2_XDI Patch.esp 254 FE 2c GetDirty_NoCleanlinessPatchForCWSS.esp 203 cb Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp 204 cc move that workbench!.esp TestMXPF-2.esp TestMXPF-1.esp TestMXPF-3.esp 205 cd 3dscopes.esp 254 FE 2d StartMeUpShaunDefaultAppearance.esp 206 ce dinomore.esp 207 cf Casio_W59.esp 254 FE 2e RussianStimpack.esp 254 FE 2f Stimpaks help you breathe.esp 254 FE 30 ConditionBoy.esp 254 FE 31 Feral Ghoul Bite Skills.esp 208 d0 CompanionStatus.esp 209 d1 RSE_II_Brothels.esp 210 d2 RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp 211 d3 RSE_II_ReproductiveSystemEffects.esp 212 d4 StartMeUp.esp 213 d5 PlayerComments.esp 214 d6 StartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.esp 215 d7 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp Will add any additional info if needed.
Solissix Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 8:20 PM, LeonKyros said: 209 d1 RSE_II_Brothels.esp 210 d2 RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp 211 d3 RSE_II_ReproductiveSystemEffects.esp I'm too exhausted right now to go through this list with a fine tooth comb; but I'm pretty sure either Brothels or Shenanigans is well known for completely borking your save over an extended period of time. Also, you load order is pretty...chaotic; I'd be surprised if most of it even ran alright from the start.
Nuka Cherry Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 Without a crash log hard to help, but a few comments: All of the RSE mods, with the possible excetion of parts of RSE_II_CSA (and only parts) are completely borked and will kill you save. Flashy (the author) has said do not use them. Also, AWKCR - armorsmith extended, is not so good and better mods exist now (ECO crafting, eg). Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp - this crashes in the mechanist area without a patch, also, will wreck your precombines and lead to save instability later game. SS2.esm - this is a very demanding mod and is better played as a standalone on a light mod order. if you game starts ok-ish (that is a bad sign - crashing ever now and then is a sign of conflicts or script problems), and then gets worse, your mod list is in conflict and they are slowly murdering your save the longer you play. I would suggest using wabbajack, install a light mod order for Fallout 4 and then add in the AAF mods as per the "fucking manual" here.
LeonKyros Posted August 28, 2023 Author Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) thank you both for the assistance I will work on removing these and fixing all of the problems. I will find and post my crash log for more info. The only unfortunate things is that a few mods require the AWKCR armorkeywords.esm Edited August 28, 2023 by LeonKyros
Varithina Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, LeonKyros said: thank you both for the assistance I will work on removing these and fixing all of the problems. I will find and post my crash log for more info. The only unfortunate things is that a few mods require the AWKCR armorkeywords.esm Quite a few mods, have patches to remove awkcr requirements, check on nexus to see if the mod you are using has them, sometimes they are in the requirements tab, under the files requiring this mod part.
LeonKyros Posted August 28, 2023 Author Posted August 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, Varithina said: Quite a few mods, have patches to remove awkcr requirements, check on nexus to see if the mod you are using has them, sometimes they are in the requirements tab, under the files requiring this mod part. Well one or two have that though for me to get rid of it I will have to remove a couple mods. which will be fine over all.
Varithina Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 12 hours ago, LeonKyros said: Well one or two have that though for me to get rid of it I will have to remove a couple mods. which will be fine over all. It might also be worth while doing a google search for non awkcr patches for the mods, there are some patch collections that are not on nexus, from what I remember not many but there used to be a few, it mostly depend on which mods they are if they are pretty common or popular mods there is more chance of finding a removal mod. Must admit though I gave up on awkcr and armorsmith extended ages ago, getting the to work properly was a pain, and I have had sim settlements 2, kill my save games before today, where no matter how I approached a settlement, fast travel or walking towards it, the game would instantly ctd as soon as I got within a certain distance of it. Also make sure that AAF is properly installed, using the guide pinned in the AAF section of this site, because your load order for those files looks off as well. Also is this a load order you have built yourself or is it from somebody else's guide? If it is from a guide, what do they say about load order and such?
Alfakentauri Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 Functional Displays is known to cause frequent crashes. People claim that can be fixed by deleting the meshes that are just edits to Bethesda nif files.
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