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If anyone can help me figure this out I would greatly appreciate it. Before it wasn't so bad crashing every now and then so I saved almost every minute (normal save never quicksaves) however now it's crashing every chance it gets, from within conversations to just walking around. Attached is the full load order from LOOT of what I have. I am not sure if I have incompatible mods or what. 

I have tried to disable some at a time to try to narrow it down but that has proven to be well less fruitful.

Pos-Index-Plugin Name 
  0  0     Fallout4.esm
  1  1     DLCRobot.esm
  2  2     DLCworkshop01.esm
  3  3     DLCCoast.esm
  4  4     DLCworkshop02.esm
  5  5     DLCworkshop03.esm
  6  6     DLCNukaWorld.esm
  7  7     Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
254 FE   0 MTM-NukaTownEastArchwayFix.esl
  8  8     HUDFramework.esm
  9  9     ArmorKeywords.esm
 10  a     XDI.esm
254 FE   1 BakaFramework.esm
 11  b     WorkshopFramework.esm
 12  c     DCGuard_Overhaul.esp
 13  d     SS2.esm
 14  e     SS2_XPAC_Chapter2.esm
 15  f     AAF.esm
254 FE   2 Dogs can grab player.esl
 16 10     Loads.esm
 17 11     NewCalibers.esp
 18 12     ProjectMojave.esm
254 FE   3 ammoUI_by_tooun.esl
254 FE   4 AAFThemes.esl
 19 13     TortureDevices.esm
 20 14     MaleBodies_AMPatch.esm
254 FE   5 UlfEquip.esm
254 FE   6 Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
 21 15     SkimpyArmorKeywordResource.esm
 22 16     Devious Devices.esm
 23 17     SettlementKeywords.esm
 24 18     EthreonMasterPlan.esm
 25 19     Homemaker.esm
254 FE   7 HoloDisplay.esl
 26 1a     Snap'n Build.esm
254 FE   8 Working_Aquariums.esl
 27 1b     TrueStormsFO4.esm
 28 1c     Robot Home Defence.esm
 29 1d     CWSS Redux.esp
 30 1e     TacticalReload.esm
254 FE   9 IngameLoadingCrashFix.esl
 31 1f     RSE_II_Resources.esm
254 FE   a Quick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.esl
 32 20     FlirtyCommonwealth.esp
 33 21     PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
 34 22     PIP-Pad.esp
 35 23     LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
254 FE   b DiscreteFemaleSkeleton.esp
 36 24     PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp
 37 25     HN66Fo4_TRS.esp
 38 26     HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
 39 27     KziitdAnimationPoses.esp
 40 28     Clean & Smooth - Commonwealth Collection.esp
 41 29     RealHandcuffs.esp
 42 2a     Nuka Ride.esp
 43 2b     Another Pine Forest Mod.esp
 44 2c     NukaWorldPlus.esp
 45 2d     Boston Breeder.esp
 46 2e     WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
 47 2f     nuka_world_settlements.esp
 48 30     3DNPC_FO4.esp
 49 31     Armorsmith Extended.esp
 50 32     AM Skingen.esp
 51 33     Generalofthearmy.esp
 52 34     Campsite.esp
 53 35     Fixed_Rexford.esp
 54 36     Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
 55 37     GoodneighborExpanded.esp
 56 38     OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
 57 39     CleanSettlement Greenhouse.esp
 58 3a     America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp
 59 3b     FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
 60 3c     Duke your New Best Freind.esp
 61 3d     CombinedArmsNV.esp
 62 3e     CombinedArmsEXPack.esp
 63 3f     QBZ191.esp
 64 40     BetterFarHarbor_Open.esp
 65 41     Sanctuary Pre-Walled.esp
 66 42     AA FusionCityRising.esp
 67 43     FunctionalDisplays.esp
 68 44     DansesWearableHolotags_v01-2.esp
 69 45     FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
 70 46     FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
 71 47     INVB_WastelandDairy.esp
 72 48     NukaRDC.esp
254 FE   c INVB_WastelandStory.esp
 73 49     INVB_WastelandOffspring.esp
 74 4a     BeastWhisperer.esp
 75 4b     NightstrikerCreatureMod.esp
 76 4c     AnimalLoverWastelandSeducer.esp
254 FE   d Unused Map Markers - Cut Content Restored.esp
 77 4d     CheatTerminal.esp
 78 4e     BoundInPublic.esp
 79 4f     InstituteSettlements2.esp
 80 50     SS2_FDK_TinyLiving.esp
 81 51     MagnoCumGaudio.esp
 82 52     Beggar_Whore.esp
 83 53     AA HotC - Standalone.esp
 84 54     F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
 85 55     RSE_II_CSA.esp
 86 56     RSE_II_AbductionsAddonPack.esp
 87 57     SS2WastelandVenturers.esp
 88 58     [SS2 Addon] SimSettlements SuperStructures.esp
 89 59     Atomic Lust.esp
254 FE   e Obi Casual Outfit.esp
 90 5a     Nuka Ride CWSS Patch.esp
 91 5b     CCOFoxyFactionsCraftable.esp
 92 5c     SexEd.esp
 93 5d     ZaZOut4.esp
 94 5e     FP_SexualHarassment.esp
 95 5f     AFVPurgatory.esp
 96 60     Raider Pet.esp
 97 61     Extended weapon mods.esp
 98 62     Minutemenoverhaul.esp
254 FE   f Atomic Muscle.esp
 99 63     STEALTH AND DETECTION SYSTEM(base).esp
100 64     ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp
254 FE  10 IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp
254 FE  11 ImmersiveRadiation.esp
254 FE  12 CompanionStatus-Settings.esp
101 65     AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp
102 66     ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp
103 67     GibsofGlory.esp
104 68     FIS-Naming-Weap-Armo-EN.esp
254 FE  13 M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
105 69     WheelMenu.esp
254 FE  14 ss2c23dnpcpatch.esp
106 6a     DX_Black_Widow.esp
107 6b     FCOM.esp
108 6c     AnimChemRedux.esp
109 6d     AnimatedRadaway.esp
110 6e     SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
111 6f     LooksMenu.esp
112 70     Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
254 FE  15 AM Skingen - Automatron.esp
254 FE  16 AM Skingen - Far Harbour.esp
254 FE  17 AM Skingen - Nuka World.esp
113 71     CBBE.esp
114 72     AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
115 73     AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
116 74     Farelle_Animations.esp
117 75     Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
118 76     FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
119 77     Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
120 78     Crazy_Multi-Tool.esp
121 79     AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
122 7a     Rufgt's Animations.esp
123 7b     AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
124 7c     AAF_SEU.esp
125 7d     Mutated Lust.esp
126 7e     BraveAnims.esp
254 FE  18 SnapdragonAnimations.esp
127 7f     RZSex.esp
128 80     CumOverlays.esp
129 81     AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
254 FE  19 Behemoth No Cart.esp
254 FE  1a BraveAnims_Fix.esp
130 82     Deathclaw_nude.esp
131 83     SS2_Addon_PSC_Plots.esp
254 FE  1b PenPos.esp
132 84     UAP Moans.esp
254 FE  1c Zaz Particle Effects.esp
133 85     AAF_Violate.esp
254 FE  1d AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
254 FE  1e AAF_Violate_FCOM_Patch.esp
254 FE  1f AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
254 FE  20 AAF_Violate_Nightstriker_Patch.esp
134 86     FPEAddonPack.esp
135 87     FPE_Resources.esp
136 88     INVB_Enslavement.esp
137 89     INVB_WastelandResources.esp
254 FE  21 RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp
254 FE  22 RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp
138 8a     Just Business.esp
254 FE  23 RealHandcuffs_JB_Compatibility.esp
139 8b     FPAttributes.esp
140 8c     SlaveTattoos.esp
141 8d     VtawWardrobe8.esp
142 8e     TatsAfterRape.esp
143 8f     AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp
144 90     DangerousNights.esp
145 91     GetDirty.esp
254 FE  24 AAF_Dirty_Sex.esp
146 92     AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
147 93     KSHairdos.esp
148 94     BobbleGirl.esp
149 95     FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp
150 96     FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp
151 97     LongerPowerLines3x.esp
152 98     ASVektor.esp
153 99     NanoSuit.esp
154 9a     DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
155 9b     The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
156 9c     The Eyes of Beauty Looking Stranger.esp
157 9d     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
158 9e     AdvBubbleTurretSet-RealNP.esp
159 9f     AlternateFurniture.esp
160 a0     AlternateSettlements.esp
161 a1     Better Vendor Stalls.esp
162 a2     MinutemenPropaganda.esp
163 a3     NPC Spawner.esp
164 a4     Northland Diggers.esp
165 a5     Northland.esp
166 a6     Settle-SRR.esp
167 a7     TD_DLC01Workshop_Addons.esp
168 a8     CCOSaucySettlersCraftable.esp
169 a9     CCOVulgarVillainsCraftable.esp
170 aa     3DNPC brothel clothing.esp
254 FE  25 SEU_Voiced_Extension.esp
171 ab     ButcherMeatRack.esp
254 FE  26 BuildableNukaStuff.esp
172 ac     Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
173 ad     Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp
174 ae     SSEX.esp
175 af     SettlementMenuManager.esp
176 b0     ClothingShelves.esp
177 b1     Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp
178 b2     InsElevator.esp
254 FE  27 DiamondCityExpansion-RedSeat.esp
254 FE  28 DCENS.esp
179 b3     EFF.esp
180 b4     FilledBrahminFeedTroughs.esp
181 b5     cVc Fishery.esp
182 b6     Girls Workshop.esp
254 FE  29 HotC_AAF_Scenes.esp
183 b7     dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
184 b8     SimSettlements2_AddOnPack_ApocalypticAdditions_SirLach.esp
254 FE  2a SS2AOP_VaultTecTools.esp
185 b9     SS2_Addon_R2R.esp
186 ba     AES_Renovated Furniture.esp
187 bb     RRTV_MyFirstInfirmary.esp
254 FE  2b eXoMagazineShelf.esp
188 bc     SS2WastelandReconstructionKit.esp
189 bd     Passthrough.esp
190 be     10mmRevolver.esp
191 bf     Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp
192 c0     BattleRifle.esp
193 c1     DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp
194 c2     M14.esp
195 c3     M2216.esp
196 c4     TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
197 c5     TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
198 c6     TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
199 c7     LadyKillerBed.esp
200 c8     Workshop Planters For Crops.esp
201 c9     BetterJunkFences.esp
202 ca     SS2_XDI Patch.esp
254 FE  2c GetDirty_NoCleanlinessPatchForCWSS.esp
203 cb     Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
204 cc     move that workbench!.esp
           TestMXPF-2.esp
           TestMXPF-1.esp
           TestMXPF-3.esp
205 cd     3dscopes.esp
254 FE  2d StartMeUpShaunDefaultAppearance.esp
206 ce     dinomore.esp
207 cf     Casio_W59.esp
254 FE  2e RussianStimpack.esp
254 FE  2f Stimpaks help you breathe.esp
254 FE  30 ConditionBoy.esp
254 FE  31 Feral Ghoul Bite Skills.esp
208 d0     CompanionStatus.esp
209 d1     RSE_II_Brothels.esp
210 d2     RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp
211 d3     RSE_II_ReproductiveSystemEffects.esp
212 d4     StartMeUp.esp
213 d5     PlayerComments.esp
214 d6     StartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.esp
215 d7     Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp


Will add any additional info if needed.

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On 8/20/2023 at 8:20 PM, LeonKyros said:

209 d1     RSE_II_Brothels.esp
210 d2     RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp
211 d3     RSE_II_ReproductiveSystemEffects.esp

I'm too exhausted right now to go through this list with a fine tooth comb; but I'm pretty sure either Brothels or Shenanigans is well known for completely borking your save over an extended period of time. Also, you load order is pretty...chaotic; I'd be surprised if most of it even ran alright from the start.  

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Without a crash log hard to help, but a few comments:

 

  • All of the RSE mods, with the possible excetion of parts of RSE_II_CSA (and only parts) are completely borked and will kill you save. Flashy (the author) has said do not use them.
  • Also, AWKCR - armorsmith extended, is not so good and better mods exist now (ECO crafting, eg).
  • Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp - this crashes in the mechanist area without a patch, also, will wreck your precombines and lead to save instability later game.
  • SS2.esm - this is a very demanding mod and is better played as a standalone on a light mod order.

if you game starts ok-ish (that is a bad sign - crashing ever now and then is a sign of conflicts or script problems), and then gets worse, your mod list is in conflict and they are slowly murdering your save the longer you play. I would suggest using wabbajack, install a light mod order for Fallout 4 and then add in the AAF mods as per the "fucking manual" here.

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thank you both for the assistance I will work on removing these and fixing all of the problems.

I will find and post my crash log for more info.

The only unfortunate things is that a few mods require the AWKCR armorkeywords.esm

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24 minutes ago, LeonKyros said:

thank you both for the assistance I will work on removing these and fixing all of the problems.

I will find and post my crash log for more info.

The only unfortunate things is that a few mods require the AWKCR armorkeywords.esm

 

Quite a few mods, have patches to remove awkcr requirements, check on nexus to see if the mod you are using has them, sometimes they are in the requirements tab, under the files requiring this mod part.

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23 minutes ago, Varithina said:

 

Quite a few mods, have patches to remove awkcr requirements, check on nexus to see if the mod you are using has them, sometimes they are in the requirements tab, under the files requiring this mod part.

Well one or two have that though for me to get rid of it I will have to remove a couple mods. which will be fine over all.

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12 hours ago, LeonKyros said:

Well one or two have that though for me to get rid of it I will have to remove a couple mods. which will be fine over all.

 

It might also be worth while doing a google search for non awkcr patches for the mods, there are some patch collections that are not on nexus, from what I remember not many but there used to be a few, it mostly depend on which mods they are if they are pretty common or popular mods there is more chance of finding a removal mod.

 

Must admit though I gave up on awkcr and armorsmith extended ages ago, getting the to work properly was a pain, and I have had sim settlements 2, kill my save games before today, where no matter how I approached a settlement, fast travel or walking towards it, the game would instantly ctd as soon as I got within a certain distance of it.

 

Also make sure that AAF is properly installed, using the guide pinned in the AAF section of this site, because your load order for those files looks off as well.

 

Also is this a load order you have built yourself or is it from somebody else's guide? If it is from a guide, what do they say about load order and such?

 

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