Making new race - ears mesh causes CTD (ONLY when put to ears slot)

[Allnarta]

So, I got a veeeeeery wierd issue here.

I creating a new race (did it tons of times). Everything is OK, but when I put certain mesh to ears slot - it's always CTDs.

Mesh is correct - if I put it to anything other than ears it works normally.

If I put other mesh to ears slot - they also do not cause CTD.

I checked things about 1000 times already and ears mesh is 100% not corrupted. It all looks like some delusional shit to me right now.

Did anyone got issues like this? I'm literally lost and I almost never get to this lost state (everything is 1000% correct and still it's broken).

Thanks in advance!

Edited February 22, 2023 by Allnarta

[Allnarta]

UPD: after extensive testing I can confirm that any mesh will cause CTD in ears slot if it wasn't rendered before in other slot. If it was - it will also not CTD after being set to ears one.

So probably issue is in ears slot being extremely picky to meshes than my axtual mesh.

[fejeena]

Both?  "Ear (Male)" and "Ear (female) "

And the word "slot" sound like armor-clothes slots.  But I don't know what's the right name for the Face data settings.

If you use "Tongue" or "Teeth (upper) " it works?

 

I created many races and it never happend in my game, never problems with ears ( except that skin color never quite matches color of head )

New race works, then I change ears to test different versions, and again never CTDs.

 

Except for the 4 bodies nif and the head nif, all other body parts have NO bones. ( NiNode  Bip01xxxx ) or the game CTD.

[Allnarta]

"Slot" is completely correct word, it is technically also use slots for headparts (in F3/FNV you can literally put armor pieces to headparts slots, probably in Oblivion too).

I found an issue and it was, as it often happens, easy as heck - I didn't attach corresponding .egt file to mesh. ? For FNV it never caused CTD (just didn't render skintone), so it was last thing I could thnk of that can actually crash CS/game.

[fejeena]

It's surprising that it worked with other head slots because they all use egm files. 

Only hair ( that is not part of the race settings) I knew some Mods without egm files. But that limits the head settings, you have to adjust the head size/shape to the hair.

 

But good that it works now.

 

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Even teeth have egm files and they move with the head sliders. . .   that's why you don't see any NPCs with braces. 

[Allnarta]

egt, not egm. While ears attach skintone to a mesh just like head one, it appeared to be critical for Oblivion (it isn't for Vegas).