Ghost-O Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) First of all thank you for reading my post. I forgot my old account (had to make a new one here) after 5+ years of not touching Skyrim back, and just recently returned to modding and Skyrim in general. So my game kinda enter a somewhat snag when entering Whiterun on the first time. Culprit is always EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. Studying the issue via google and browsing here , honestly it still go way over my head (seriously, modding in Skyrim goes way more advanced than it used to. Or me forgetting the details). But as I am using this thread for reference........ ..............I found out that for this crashlog crash-2022-12-01-14-21-52.txtthings that repeated are Skyrim.esp; JK's Skyrim; and MNC. For Goat. (I suspected that mode at first which will kidnap some NPCs; but then I remembered it worked before) I tried to modify it multiple times to see how it can be fixed with as minimal damage to save as possible. I found out that either disabling MNC or JK Skyrim would allow me to enter Whiterun So for now, I decided to both disable MNC animation and shutting down JK Skyrim. Which allow me to continue playing for once. Thing is 1. I don't want to disable both of that mods; since JK Skyrim actually enhancing cities experience for me. And MNC is.........*cough* 2. Even after that I still got the same crash type anyway crash-2022-12-03-17-23-16.txt So I suspect it is something else borking. So I need some advice on this matter 1. Which mods are actually cause the issue? 2. Is this issue fixable without disabling mods? 3. Slightly off topic, but other than the thread I referred to read the crashlog, any other tutorial in fine-reading my own crashlog? Thanks in advance for the help. Edited December 7, 2022 by Ghost-O For now concluding the topic since the issue was more or less solved.
traison Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 goatwithbell.nif is your issue, or (less likely) its skeleton.nif. Potentially something to do with "oat_Tongue08", which is most likely "Goat_Tongue08" with the pointer being offset by 1. Checksums (md5): c48a5f0660cc0263f7f49ae51f88e540 goatwithbell.nif 500039a5f487b1e6e79006ed8d8fa833 skeleton.nif Where goatwithbell.nif is provided by MoreNastyCritters_v12_5SE, and the skeleton.nif is provided by XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended-1988-4-80-1610196777.
Ghost-O Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, traison said: goatwithbell.nif is your issue, or (less likely) its skeleton.nif. Potentially something to do with "oat_Tongue08", which is most likely "Goat_Tongue08" with the pointer being offset by 1. Checksums (md5): c48a5f0660cc0263f7f49ae51f88e540 goatwithbell.nif 500039a5f487b1e6e79006ed8d8fa833 skeleton.nif Where goatwithbell.nif is provided by MoreNastyCritters_v12_5SE, and the skeleton.nif is provided by XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended-1988-4-80-1610196777. Okay so if I got it right...... It is a one (internal) mislabeling of two similar bone which cause the game to read both items and causing crash? Hmmmm. And actually even with the JK Skyrim disabled in one of my saves; game still crashed occasionally with the same issue, but this time is Spriggan, wolves. There was also a NPC asset in the crashlog, but mostly on critters and animals Also on my tinkering with mods earlier tuens out MNC is still Form 43 mods. That might be the cause? So.........I guess in summary it is most likely my issue would gone if I disabled MNC esp? Edited December 4, 2022 by Ghost-O
traison Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ghost-O said: It is a one (internal) mislabeling of two similar bone which cause the game to read both items and causing crash? No, the pointer being offset by 1 most likely only means the code started to "read" the node name "Goat_Tongue08". Irrelevant in this case, I just mentioned it to explain where I got the "G" from. If you have nothing overriding MNC then your problem is probably in the skeleton. Failing that, try to find the exact versions of XP32 and MNC that I mentioned in my post, or get the checksums of your relevant nif files to see if you already have the same ones. The skeleton is in meshes\actors\goat\character assets, and the goat nif is in meshes\MoreNastyCritters\goat. Edit: Also never seen form 43 causing a crash. Plugins in general causing crashes is extremely rare. The most likely crash you'd get from a plugin is from items with missing or invalid inventory icons. Edited December 4, 2022 by traison
Fotogen Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ghost-O said: MNC is still Form 43 mods Mod, esp or esm with form 43 in never a issue. But skeleton, mesh is an issue. If you see a mod that has form 43, it means it was created for skyrim LE(32 bit version). Now, mod itself (esp or esm) doesnt have to be converted into skyrim SE version (form 44), but skeleton/meshs(nif) totaly have to be converted or you get weird things. Usualy CTD. So: - form 43 is not a problem - but something else was not converted properly for SE Note: if you load .nif into OutfitStudio and you get a warning(anything really), you know its a weird mesh
Ghost-O Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) So form 43 is not really an issue in this huh........ By the way, I probably should mentioned first that I used MO2......their feature help modding quite much. Until things crash Secondly, I do tried to disable MNC and still crashed on goats crash-2022-12-04-10-20-15.txt anyway. 58 minutes ago, traison said: ........If you have nothing overriding MNC then your problem is probably in the skeleton. Failing that, try to find the exact versions of XP32 and MNC that I mentioned in my post, or get the checksums of your relevant nif files to see if you already have the same ones. The skeleton is in meshes\actors\goat\character assets, and the goat nif is in meshes\MoreNastyCritters\goat. ....... Files does exist in their respective mod files, but running it on Powershell (I assume i should type either : 1. certutil -hashfile c48a5f0660cc0263f7f49ae51f88e540 goatwithbell.nif; or 2. certutil -hashfile goatwithbell.nif c48a5f0660cc0263f7f49ae51f88e540; or 3. certutil -hashfile goatwithbell.nif MD5) it gave me this > CertUtil: -hashfile command FAILED: 0x80070002 (WIN32: 2 ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) CertUtil: The system cannot find the file specified. which is weird since said file exist in their mod folders Spoiler Edited December 4, 2022 by Ghost-O
traison Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 certutil -hashfile goatwithbell.nif MD5 certutil -hashfile skeleton.nif MD5
Ghost-O Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, traison said: certutil -hashfile goatwithbell.nif MD5 certutil -hashfile skeleton.nif MD5 ........I guess it has to be super specific since this happened Spoiler PS F:\Modding\MO2\mods> certutil -hashfile skeleton.nif MD5 CertUtil: -hashfile command FAILED: 0x80070002 (WIN32: 2 ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) CertUtil: The system cannot find the file specified. PS F:\Modding\MO2\mods> certutil -hashfile goatwithbell.nif MD5 CertUtil: -hashfile command FAILED: 0x80070002 (WIN32: 2 ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) CertUtil: The system cannot find the file specified. PS F:\Modding\MO2\mods\MoreNastyCrittersSE_v\meshes\actors\goat> certutil -hashfile skeleton.nif MD5 CertUtil: -hashfile command FAILED: 0x80070002 (WIN32: 2 ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) CertUtil: The system cannot find the file specified. (goddam foldering makes running command a mess) However, as I moved the file so it can be certutil-ed... PS F:\Modding\MO2\mods\MoreNastyCrittersSE_v\meshes\actors\goat> certutil -hashfile skeleton.nif MD5 MD5 hash of skeleton.nif: 398003e34c83544582bf8c49c7dfecb9 CertUtil: -hashfile command completed successfully. PS F:\Modding\MO2\mods\MoreNastyCrittersSE_v\meshes\MoreNastyCritters\goat> certutil -hashfile goatwithbell.nif MD5 MD5 hash of goatwithbell.nif: dcb72d696bbd55153a9998b0983987a5 CertUtil: -hashfile command completed successfully. Referring to the hash file you posted...... goatwithbell dcb72d696bbd55153a9998b0983987a5 c48a5f0660cc0263f7f49ae51f88e540 skeleton 398003e34c83544582bf8c49c7dfecb9 500039a5f487b1e6e79006ed8d8fa833 I guess this is the issue?
traison Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 Just means you got different files than me. If you have the same versions of the mods providing those files as I do THEN it's an issue.
Ghost-O Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, traison said: Just means you got different files than me. If you have the same versions of the mods providing those files as I do THEN it's an issue. If it helps, I am using this thread as my reference Just incase I am being stupid, does the mod load order could be the culprit here? I reread the mod details for the conflicting two, and MNC does write a footnote that XPMSE should be the higher priority. And when I do recheck things using LOOT (provided inside MO2), I found these load order generated Spoiler [info] Calculated order: [info] Skyrim.esm [info] Update.esm [info] Dawnguard.esm [info] HearthFires.esm [info] Dragonborn.esm [info] ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm [info] ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl [info] ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl [info] ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm [info] Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [info] SexLab.esm [info] 3DNPC.esp [info] SexLabAroused.esm [info] Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm [info] GenderBender.esm [info] FlowerGirls SE.esm [info] CreatureFramework.esm [info] PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm [info] SexLab sslAnimationSlots 2000 SE.esl [info] ECE Sliders for Racemenu.esl [info] DA_Skyship.esm [info] BBLuxurySuite.esm [info] RaceCompatibility.esm [info] battlenymphs.esm [info] JSwordsD.esm [info] ZaZAnimationPack.esm [info] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm [info] SkyUI_SE.esp [info] Obsidian Weathers.esp [info] Immersive Wenches.esp [info] FNIS.esp [info] SkyrimRecycling.esp [info] SkyrimRecycling_noExp.esp [info] CBBE.esp [info] 50 More Perk Points.esp [info] Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp [info] 3DNPC0.esp [info] 3DNPC1.esp [info] Bijin Wives.esp [info] SexLabMatchMaker.esp [info] SexLabDefeat.esp [info] TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp [info] SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp [info] SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp [info] SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp [info] SOS - TRX - Futanari Addon.esp [info] SOS - TRX - Male Addon.esp [info] GenderBenderAddon-BoundCock.esp [info] WetFunction.esp [info] SOS_Ho.esp [info] KS Hairdo's.esp [info] ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp [info] SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp [info] RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp [info] UIExtensions.esp [info] SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp [info] SLAnimLoader.esp [info] SexLabTools.esp [info] Blush When Aroused.esp [info] SLACS.esp [info] SexLabDangerousNights2.esp [info] SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp [info] SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp [info] NCK30Obj.esp [info] PsycheAnimationObjects.esp [info] Forgotten Wenches.esp [info] FNISSexyMove.esp [info] VioLens SE.esp [info] UltimateCombat.esp [info] 12FemaleBrows.esp [info] HOR_AlchemyXP60.esp [info] Craftable Crossbows Immersive x2.esp [info] SL Deadly Drain.esp [info] SexlabFN.esp [info] FemaleOutfitReplacer.esp [info] BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp [info] SLKidnapped_FemaleAddon.esp [info] Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [info] Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp [info] OBIS SE.esp [info] Immersive Encounters.esp [info] Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp [info] Immersive Weapons.esp [info] Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp [info] HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp [info] WZOblivionArtifacts.esp [info] SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp [info] Skinny-Dip Skyrim SL.esp [info] Hateful Wenches.esp [info] Damsels in Distress.esp [info] Schlongs of Skyrim.esp [info] Immersive Patrols II.esp [info] MoreNastyCritters.esp [info] Bijin Warmaidens.esp [info] Bijin NPCs.esp [info] HandgunsOfSkyrim.esp [info] Scent of Sex.esp [info] JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp [info] New Hagravens.esp [info] Book of UUNP - Textures.esp [info] Deadly Wenches.esp [info] ERF - Succubus.esp [info] Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp [info] HF_Heljarchen_PHB_EX.esp [info] EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp [info] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp [info] ElysiumEstate.esp [info] SOS - Shop.esp [info] BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp [info] BBLSExtBeds.esp [info] SpousesEnhancedSE.esp [info] The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [info] The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp [info] FayeFG.esp [info] My Home Is Your Home.esp [info] RosaFollower.esp [info] Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp [info] FNISspells.esp [info] SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp [info] SexLabStopCombat.esp [info] Giantesses.esp [info] TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp [info] SLDrunk.esp [info] NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp [info] [NINI] Death Lady.esp [info] BakaFactoryABC.esp [info] sandboxcylinderheight.esp [info] SOSRaceMenu.esp [info] XPMSE.esp [info] CS-BBLS.esp [info] CharacterMakingExtender.esp [info] RaceMenu.esp [info] RaceMenuPlugin.esp [info] RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp [info] Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp [info] Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp [info] Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp [info] HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp [info] Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp [info] Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp [info] RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp [info] RDO - USSEP Patch.esp Which baffles me because XPMSE is put way lower than what the standalone LOOT provides Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 3DNPC.esp 10 a SexLabAroused.esm 11 b Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 12 c GenderBender.esm 13 d FlowerGirls SE.esm 14 e CreatureFramework.esm 15 f PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 254 FE 2 SexLab sslAnimationSlots 2000 SE.esl 254 FE 3 ECE Sliders for Racemenu.esl 16 10 DA_Skyship.esm 17 11 BBLuxurySuite.esm 18 12 RaceCompatibility.esm 19 13 battlenymphs.esm 20 14 JSwordsD.esm 21 15 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 22 16 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 23 17 SkyUI_SE.esp 24 18 Obsidian Weathers.esp 25 19 Immersive Wenches.esp 26 1a XPMSE.esp 27 1b FNIS.esp 28 1c SkyrimRecycling.esp 29 1d SkyrimRecycling_noExp.esp 254 FE 4 CBBE.esp 30 1e 50 More Perk Points.esp 31 1f Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp 254 FE 5 3DNPC0.esp 254 FE 6 3DNPC1.esp 32 20 Bijin Wives.esp 33 21 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 34 22 SexLabDefeat.esp 35 23 TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp 36 24 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 37 25 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 38 26 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 39 27 SOS - TRX - Futanari Addon.esp 40 28 SOS - TRX - Male Addon.esp 41 29 GenderBenderAddon-BoundCock.esp 42 2a WetFunction.esp 43 2b SOS_Ho.esp 44 2c KS Hairdo's.esp 45 2d ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp 46 2e SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp 47 2f RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 48 30 UIExtensions.esp 49 31 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 50 32 SLAnimLoader.esp 51 33 SexLabTools.esp 52 34 Blush When Aroused.esp 53 35 SLACS.esp 54 36 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 55 37 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 254 FE 7 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 56 38 NCK30Obj.esp 57 39 PsycheAnimationObjects.esp 58 3a Forgotten Wenches.esp 59 3b FNISSexyMove.esp 60 3c VioLens SE.esp 61 3d UltimateCombat.esp 62 3e 12FemaleBrows.esp 63 3f HOR_AlchemyXP60.esp 64 40 Craftable Crossbows Immersive x2.esp 65 41 SL Deadly Drain.esp 254 FE 8 SexlabFN.esp 66 42 FemaleOutfitReplacer.esp 67 43 JKs Skyrim.esp 68 44 BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp 254 FE 9 SLKidnapped_FemaleAddon.esp 69 45 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp 70 46 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 71 47 OBIS SE.esp 72 48 Immersive Encounters.esp 73 49 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 74 4a Immersive Weapons.esp 75 4b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 76 4c HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp 77 4d WZOblivionArtifacts.esp 78 4e SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 79 4f Skinny-Dip Skyrim SL.esp 80 50 Hateful Wenches.esp 254 FE a Damsels in Distress.esp 81 51 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 82 52 Immersive Patrols II.esp 83 53 MoreNastyCritters.esp 84 54 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 85 55 Bijin NPCs.esp 254 FE b HandgunsOfSkyrim.esp 86 56 Scent of Sex.esp 254 FE c JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp 254 FE d New Hagravens.esp 87 57 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 88 58 Deadly Wenches.esp 89 59 ERF - Succubus.esp 90 5a Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp 91 5b HF_Heljarchen_PHB_EX.esp 92 5c EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 93 5d Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 94 5e ElysiumEstate.esp 95 5f SOS - Shop.esp 96 60 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp 254 FE e BBLSExtBeds.esp 97 61 SpousesEnhancedSE.esp 98 62 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 99 63 The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp 100 64 FayeFG.esp 101 65 My Home Is Your Home.esp 102 66 RosaFollower.esp 103 67 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 104 68 FNISspells.esp 105 69 SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp 106 6a SexLabStopCombat.esp 254 FE f Giantesses.esp 254 FE 10 TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp 107 6b SLDrunk.esp 108 6c NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp 254 FE 11 [NINI] Death Lady.esp 254 FE 12 BakaFactoryABC.esp 109 6d sandboxcylinderheight.esp 110 6e SOSRaceMenu.esp 254 FE 13 CS-BBLS.esp 111 6f CharacterMakingExtender.esp 112 70 RaceMenu.esp 113 71 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 114 72 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 115 73 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 116 74 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 254 FE 14 CACO_Survival Mode_Patch.esp 254 FE 15 CC-Fishing_CACO_Patch.esp 254 FE 16 CACO Rare Curios Patch.esp 254 FE 17 CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp 254 FE 18 CACO_Saints&Seducers.esp 254 FE 19 ElysiumEstate_CACO_Patch.esp 117 75 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 1a CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp 118 76 HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp 119 77 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 120 78 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp 121 79 RDO - USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 1b RelationshipDialogueOverhaul_CACO_Patch.esp 122 7a Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Edited December 4, 2022 by Ghost-O
traison Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 Load order of plugins has nothing to do with nif files themselves. What you should be focusing on is the conflicts tab of XP32 and MNC. Typically having anything that overrides XP32 is a bad idea, and if something happens to be overriding the goat files in MNC then, well, there's yer problem.
Ghost-O Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) I actually tried to run the game as I wanted to with all the plugins and things went normal (except the two yellowshirts in front of Whiterun does not even there); so I ran to the other farm with goat near that watchtower......and I CTD-ed again. crash-2022-12-04-13-46-49.txt Looks like when I thought I learned something new, game went 'you know nothing Jon Snow' me. Aiyo. This is the load order used for that crash btw Spoiler [00] Skyrim.esm [01] Update.esm [02] Dawnguard.esm [03] HearthFires.esm [04] Dragonborn.esm [05] ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm [06] ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm [07] Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [08] SexLab.esm [09] 3DNPC.esp [0A] SexLabAroused.esm [0B] Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm [0C] GenderBender.esm [0D] FlowerGirls SE.esm [0E] CreatureFramework.esm [0F] PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm [10] DA_Skyship.esm [11] BBLuxurySuite.esm [12] RaceCompatibility.esm [13] battlenymphs.esm [14] JSwordsD.esm [15] ZaZAnimationPack.esm [16] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm [17] SkyUI_SE.esp [18] Obsidian Weathers.esp [19] Immersive Wenches.esp [1A] XPMSE.esp [1B] FNIS.esp [1C] SkyrimRecycling.esp [1D] SkyrimRecycling_noExp.esp [1E] 50 More Perk Points.esp [1F] Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp [20] Bijin Wives.esp [21] SexLabMatchMaker.esp [22] SexLabDefeat.esp [23] TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp [24] SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp [25] SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp [26] SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp [27] SOS - TRX - Futanari Addon.esp [28] SOS - TRX - Male Addon.esp [29] GenderBenderAddon-BoundCock.esp [2A] WetFunction.esp [2B] SOS_Ho.esp [2C] KS Hairdo's.esp [2D] ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp [2E] SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp [2F] RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp [30] UIExtensions.esp [31] SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp [32] SLAnimLoader.esp [33] SexLabTools.esp [34] Blush When Aroused.esp [35] SLACS.esp [36] SexLabDangerousNights2.esp [37] SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp [38] NCK30Obj.esp [39] PsycheAnimationObjects.esp [3A] Forgotten Wenches.esp [3B] FNISSexyMove.esp [3C] VioLens SE.esp [3D] UltimateCombat.esp [3E] 12FemaleBrows.esp [3F] HOR_AlchemyXP60.esp [40] Craftable Crossbows Immersive x2.esp [41] SL Deadly Drain.esp [42] FemaleOutfitReplacer.esp [43] JKs Skyrim.esp [44] BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp [45] Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [46] Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp [47] OBIS SE.esp [48] Immersive Encounters.esp [49] Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp [4A] Immersive Weapons.esp [4B] Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp [4C] HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp [4D] WZOblivionArtifacts.esp [4E] SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp [4F] Skinny-Dip Skyrim SL.esp [50] Hateful Wenches.esp [51] Schlongs of Skyrim.esp [52] Immersive Patrols II.esp [53] MoreNastyCritters.esp [54] Bijin Warmaidens.esp [55] Bijin NPCs.esp [56] Scent of Sex.esp [57] Book of UUNP - Textures.esp [58] Deadly Wenches.esp [59] ERF - Succubus.esp [5A] Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp [5B] HF_Heljarchen_PHB_EX.esp [5C] EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp [5D] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp [5E] ElysiumEstate.esp [5F] SOS - Shop.esp [60] BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp [61] SpousesEnhancedSE.esp [62] The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [63] The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp [64] FayeFG.esp [65] My Home Is Your Home.esp [66] RosaFollower.esp [67] Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp [68] FNISspells.esp [69] SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp [6A] SexLabStopCombat.esp [6B] SLDrunk.esp [6C] NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp [6D] sandboxcylinderheight.esp [6E] SOSRaceMenu.esp [6F] CharacterMakingExtender.esp [70] RaceMenu.esp [71] RaceMenuPlugin.esp [72] RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp [73] Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp [74] Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp [75] Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp [76] HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp [77] Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp [78] Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp [79] RDO - USSEP Patch.esp [7A] Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [FE:000] ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl [FE:001] ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl [FE:002] SexLab sslAnimationSlots 2000 SE.esl [FE:003] ECE Sliders for Racemenu.esl [FE:004] CBBE.esp [FE:005] 3DNPC0.esp [FE:006] 3DNPC1.esp [FE:007] SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp [FE:008] SexlabFN.esp [FE:009] SLKidnapped_FemaleAddon.esp [FE:00A] Damsels in Distress.esp [FE:00B] HandgunsOfSkyrim.esp [FE:00C] JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp [FE:00D] New Hagravens.esp [FE:00E] BBLSExtBeds.esp [FE:00F] Giantesses.esp [FE:010] TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp [FE:011] [NINI] Death Lady.esp [FE:012] BakaFactoryABC.esp [FE:013] CS-BBLS.esp [FE:014] CACO_Survival Mode_Patch.esp [FE:015] CC-Fishing_CACO_Patch.esp [FE:016] CACO Rare Curios Patch.esp [FE:017] CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp [FE:018] CACO_Saints&Seducers.esp [FE:019] ElysiumEstate_CACO_Patch.esp [FE:01A] CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp [FE:01B] RelationshipDialogueOverhaul_CACO_Patch.esp looking at the other modlist, even with the new load-list it should fulfil the thing MNC asked to (XPMSE before MNC) 1 hour ago, traison said: Load order of plugins has nothing to do with nif files themselves. What you should be focusing on is the conflicts tab of XP32 and MNC. Typically having anything that overrides XP32 is a bad idea, and if something happens to be overriding the goat files in MNC then, well, there's yer problem. I.......am looking at the conflict tab and I found these I guess NiOverride Pose Adjustments is also one of the issue? *edit* Nvm, it looks like it does conflict with XPMSSE, but issue with goat skeletons still persist* Edited December 4, 2022 by Ghost-O added more info
Ghost-O Posted December 5, 2022 Author Posted December 5, 2022 So a bit of small update I was thinking, 'if the skeletal issues are caused by something between XPMSSE and MNC and JK Skyrim, disabling both MNC and JK should fix that?' And I was partially right. Using Another Start (because god-dang Helgen is a long session), at least now my character can enter Skyrim (it usually not even allowing me to enter the overworld with MNC + JK installed). But CTD on seeing goat still persist. And looking at the crash logcrash-2022-12-05-12-42-29.txt , it appears skeleton are still issue. And now that even it mentioned Dragonborn. But then I remembered something about 'cleaning the esm' using xEdit in the past. And it also mentioned in LOOT page. And apparently JK (or more should I say any city overhaul mods) are generally fucking with Immersive mods, especially the citizen AI that I have installed. So yea, I guess I would try to use the xEdit tomorrow and see if the skeletons are still fucking with me even after not using MNC and JK Skyrim.
traison Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Careful if you clean the vanilla esms. Cleaning dragonborn.esm for instance will break the last fight in aprocrypha completely, as in, 90 of the entire dungeon is gone.
Ghost-O Posted December 6, 2022 Author Posted December 6, 2022 Unfortunately, cleaning esm does little to the issue crash-2022-12-05-14-06-40(with cleaned esm, no Nio+MNC+JKSkyrim).txt and culprit is still more or less the same, with goat as the culprit. .......But its weird tho. Why NiNode is always constantly mentioned? Googling forward, looks like SIC had something to do with it. Let's see if disabling those will actually solve things this time 17 hours ago, traison said: Careful if you clean the vanilla esms. Cleaning dragonborn.esm for instance will break the last fight in aprocrypha completely, as in, 90 of the entire dungeon is gone. errrr, whoops? Guess I will cross the burden and redownload the uncleaned Dragonborn.esm from steam when the time comes
Ghost-O Posted December 6, 2022 Author Posted December 6, 2022 I finally found a breakthrough, finally. Holy Akatosh. I was tinkering things left and right (even reinstalled XPMSSE, MNC, and on-offing other stuff), and then in a sheer desperation I am looking back to all crash logs I am amassed so far. On 12/4/2022 at 3:30 PM, traison said: goatwithbell.nif is your issue, or (less likely) its skeleton.nif. Potentially something to do with "oat_Tongue08", which is most likely "Goat_Tongue08" with the pointer being offset by 1. ........................... Where goatwithbell.nif is provided by MoreNastyCritters_v12_5SE, and the skeleton.nif is provided by XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended-1988-4-80-1610196777. This is strangely the answer, and also my source of next confusion. I decided to disable ABC..........................................and it worked. No weird or bad bone allocation on SIC, no conflicts on goat inside JK Skyrim, no more crashing on goat. Well, the caveat is 1. I only test it on 2 exact locations where I can see goat. The farm where you spot cicero and Whiterun 2. As an exchange, game actually crashed when I quit to main menu. crash-2022-12-06-13-51-07.txt Thing is..... (paraphrasing the ABC's description) Spoiler What's New in Version 2.80V Released November 2 ............ 2.70V - Added Goat's genital and tongue. It supports CBPC, SMP, HDT-PE(LE Skyrim) 2.71V - Added missing goat tongue texture 2.80V - Added new Horker ABC ......If I read it right, the goat tongue texture should be there. Weird. Then again, as you pointed out.....the issue is the script not reading the G in Goat Also regarding the 'pointer being offset by 1' issue.........uh, can I fix that myself? I guess tomorrow I would thoroughly test if ABC really is the cause. In the meantime, let me celebrate with reenacting justice over my 5 days of modding misery Spoiler
traison Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 50 minutes ago, Ghost-O said: pointer being offset by 1 I shall quote myself: On 12/4/2022 at 12:09 PM, traison said: No, the pointer being offset by 1 most likely only means the code started to "read" the node name "Goat_Tongue08". Irrelevant in this case, I just mentioned it to explain where I got the "G" from. As for your latest crash: SLKidnapped_FemaleAddon.esp is conflicting with Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp. It seems like SL Kidnapped has deleted 0x00073FBD, which the other plugin is trying to use. Gonna need to make/find a patch for that.
Ghost-O Posted December 7, 2022 Author Posted December 7, 2022 So.....yeah. I have done quite a number of testing and I can say that any crashes involving goat are now......zero at present time. I still got a few lingering questions, but I feel that its no longer within the scope of this topic; so for now I guess......case closed? Leaving this topic not-deleted incase anyone else have the same issue.
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