Iron Warhammer causes CTD when I try to access it from follower's inventory.

[Jotasran]

I went into xedit and saw no conflicts.  This is the only weapon I've encountered this with.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

 

Crash_2022_11_20_18-53-4.txt

[traison]

A conflict in xEdit is never going to cause a crash. It's whatever the mods are doing to the records that can eventually lead to a crash.

 

Inventory3DManager is mentioned in the stack, so your issue is going to be in whatever mod changed the inventory "icon" of the iron warhammer. It could be missing, which sometimes leads to a crash, or it was changed to a broken mesh.

 

So do what you did before and inspect the Iron Warhammer WEAP records (there's most likely a lot of them, all the various enchantments etc.) and see which mods you have that change them. Then you got 2 options, either undo the changes to meshes and/or inventory information in xEdit, or get disabling the mods entirely.

[Jotasran]

Ok, so it looks like there are only 4 mods involved;  skyrim.esm, ussep, immersive sounds compendium, and WACCF.  There is a "Icon" field but it is unpopulated across the all mods.  I compared this to other weapons and it seem to be the case with all of them. Model (MODL) is populated with the exact same "weapons/iron/warhammer.nif".  The only difference (conflict) is in the TNAM - attack fail sound field.  Immersive Sounds as a different value than all the others (WACCF).... but seems like that shouldn't matter as no sound is produced when I just have the inventory screen open.

 

 

[chaimhewast]

Then it's not a problem with the plugins, but instead with the mesh, or maybe the textures. Do you have anything that affects weapon models or textures?

[Jotasran]

Here's my load order...

 

Active Plugins:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp  [Version 4.2.5b]
06  Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations.esl
07  Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp
08  ConfigureCommentaryRate.esl
09  LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm  [Version 5.6.3]
0A  TrueHUD.esl
0B  Vanilla Scripts Enhanced.esl
0C  FISS.esp
0D  Fertility Mode.esm
0E  Heels Sound.esm
0F  Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp
10  3DNPC.esp
11  NoSillyPhysicsDamage.esl
12  NoBrokenWhiterunTower.esp
13  Campfire.esm
14  WheelsOfLull.esp  [Version 4.0+]
15  Wyrmstooth.esp  [Version 1.20]
16  iWant Widgets.esl
17  Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
18  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm  [Version 2.05.021]
19  OSA.esm
1A  Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp  [Version 100]
1B  SkyUI_SE.esp
1C  Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
1D  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
1E  Obsidian Weathers.esp
1F  SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
20  Immersive Wenches.esp
21  AOS_ISC_Integration.esp
22  Mortal Enemies.esp
23  QuestsAreInSkyrimUSSEP.esp
24  New Hagravens.esp
25  NFF Voice Pack.esp
26  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
27  Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp  [Version 2.9.1]
28  DBM_ISC_Patch.esp
29  UnreadBooksGlow.esp  [Version 2.2.0]
2A  DBM_UnreadBooksGlow_Patch.esp
2B  Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - Fuse.esp
2C  Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - HHairstyles.esp
2D  KSA_vdk.esp
2E  BetterThirdPersonSelection.esp
2F  OStim.esp
30  OAroused.esp
31  NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
32  OSearch.esp
33  OAlign.esp
34  DX Dark Knight Armor - My Final Version by Xtudo.esp  [Version 5]
35  _Fuse00_ArmorInquisitor.esp
36  [ssg]Chain of Darkness.esp
37  ksws02.esp
38  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
39  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) Legacy of the Dragonborn.esp
3A  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) SSE.esp
3B  CS_Angi.esp
3C  CS_Constance.esp
3D  CS_Elenwen.esp
3E  CS_Alva.esp
3F  CS_Fura.esp
40  CS_Hestla.esp
41  CS_Modhna.esp
42  CS_Orla.esp
43  CS_Sorine.esp
44  CS_Tilde.esp
45  CS_Vori.esp
46  CS_Fanari.esp
47  CS_Hjordis.esp
48  CS_Mirabelle.esp
49  CS_Rakel.esp
4A  CS_Rikke.esp
4B  CS_Morwen.esp
4C  CS_Tonilia.esp
4D  CS_Adelaisa.esp
4E  CS_Aranea.esp
4F  CS_Beleval.esp
50  CS_Elisif.esp
51  CS_Ingjard.esp
52  CS_Borgakh.esp
53  CS_Karliah.esp
54  CS_Ugor.esp
55  CS_Lydia.esp
56  CS_Mjoll.esp
57  CS_Rayya.esp
58  CS_Sapphire.esp
59  CS_Serana.esp
5A  CS_Uthgerd.esp
5B  CS_Valerica.esp
5C  CS_Vex.esp
5D  CS_Delphine.esp
5E  CS_Eola.esp
5F  CS_Frea.esp
60  CS_Illia.esp
61  CS_Iona.esp
62  CS_Jordis.esp
63  NPCs React To Necromancy.esp
64  PCA Sneak For HighHeels.esp
65  TrulyNeutralPrisoners.esp
66  12FemaleBrows.esp
67  FNISSexyMove.esp
68  NaughtyVoices.esp
69  ExcitableSubsOStim.esp
6A  DiverseSkyimCivilWarFix.esp
6B  RDO Updated.esp
6C  ELFX Fixes.esp
6D  MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp
6E  RaceMenu Overlays Hieroglyphics.esp
6F  AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp
70  Bretonic Leather Armor.esp
71  Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp  [Version 90]
72  Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
73  GirlHeavyArmor.esp
74  Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
75  BA_BardSongs_AIO.esp
76  Arena.esp
77  Bandit Lines Expansion.esp
78  bloodbond.esp
79  AI Overhaul.esp
7A  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 3.1.11]
7B  MysticismMagic.esp  [Version 200]
7C  SPERG-SSE.esp
7D  Adamant.esp
7E  PathOfSorcery.esp  [Version 2.6]
7F  Vokrii - Minimalistic Perks of Skyrim.esp
80  Mysticism - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp
81  Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp  [Version 400]
82  Ordinator - Combat Styles.esp
83  Vokriinator Black.esp
84  Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
85  BDE_Armor.esp
86  CS_Birna.esp
87  CS_Danica.esp
88  CS_Fastred.esp
89  CS_Gilfre.esp
8A  CS_Illdi.esp
8B  CS_Sigrid.esp
8C  CS_Vittoria.esp
8D  CS_Wylandriah.esp
8E  CS_Hert.esp
8F  CS_Sybille.esp
90  CS_Endarie.esp
91  CS_Haelga.esp
92  CS_Milore.esp
93  CS_Svana.esp
94  CS_Gerdur.esp
95  CS_Grelka.esp
96  CS_Hulda.esp
97  CS_Lisette.esp
98  CS_Taarie.esp
99  CS_Temba.esp
9A  CS_Arcadia.esp
9B  CS_Idgrod.esp
9C  CS_Senna.esp
9D  CS_Ysolda.esp
9E  CS_Camilla.esp
9F  CS_Carlotta.esp
A0  CS_Ingun.esp
A1  CS_Maven.esp
A2  CS_Saadia.esp
A3  CS_Sylgja.esp
A4  Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
A5  MCoW_ELFX.esp
A6  Immersive Encounters.esp
A7  SeranaDialogAddon.esp  [Version 3.1]
A8  Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
A9  Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp
AA  Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
AB  Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
AC  MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
AD  Hunterborn.esp
AE  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp  [Version 8]
AF  NewArmoury.esp
B0  Holidays.esp
B1  DBM_Holidays_Patch.esp
B2  HearthfireMultiKid.esp
B3  CBBE.esp
B4  Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - Dint999.esp
B5  Dawnguard Vampire.esp
B6  SDA Campfire Patch.esp
B7  SDA RDO Patch.esp
B8  Immersive Weapons.esp
B9  CS_Astrid.esp
BA  CS_Irileth.esp
BB  USMP - AI Overhaul patch.esp
BC  CS_Brelyna.esp
BD  CS_Annekke.esp
BE  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
BF  DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp  [Version 2.14]
C0  Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp
C1  USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
C2  CS_Gabriella.esp
C3  Immersive Music.esp  [Version 5.0.esp]
C4  Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
C5  Lit Road Signs.esp
C6  CS_Muiri.esp
C7  3BBB.esp
C8  ClickySoundBegone.esp
C9  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
CA  AOS_EBT Patch.esp
CB  CrittersAintSnitches.esp
CC  Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Hunterborn Patch.esp
CD  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
CE  DeadlySpellImpacts Transparency Fix.esp
CF  DanceForMe.esp
D0  DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
D1  Extended Encounters.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
D2  GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp
D3  HIMBO.esp
D4  HonedMetal.esp
D5  IAWeightFixes.esp
D6  Beards.esp
D7  Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
D8  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
D9  3DNPC0.esp
DA  McmRecorder.esp
DB  MCMHelper.esp
DC  Mannequins Behave.esp
DD  NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
DE  No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp
DF  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
E0  OBody.esp
E1  OCum.esp
E2  Obsidian Weathers MCM.esp
E3  RaceMenu.esp
E4  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
E5  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
E6  SensibleBribes.esp
E7  VampireFeedingTweaks.esp
E8  QwibLantern.esp
E9  ScrimshawExpanded.esp
EA  S3DRocks.esp
EB  SleepTight.esp
EC  Fertility Mode 3 Fixes and Updates.esp  [Version 3.0.1]
ED  Take A Peek - New Stealth Mechanic.esp
EE  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) 3DNPC.esp
EF  Common Clothes and Armors.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
F0  DBM_3DNPC_Patch.esp
F1  SkyrimSewers.esp  [Version 4.14]
F2  DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
F3  Cloaks.esp
F4  ZIA_Complete Pack.esp  [Version 50]
F5  NarrativeLoot Complete.esp
F6  DBM_NarrativeLoot_Patch.esp
F7  Dwarfsphere.esp  [Version 2]
F8  DwarfsphereImprovedPatch.esp
F9  DBM_ELFX_Patch.esp
FA  Clockwork.esp  [Version 1.0]
FB  Underwater_Treasure.esp
FC  Immersive Horses.esp
FD  Frostfall.esp
FE  DBM_AHO_Patch.esp
FF  DBM_IW_Patch.esp
100  DBM_ImmersiveHorses_Patch.esp
101  DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp
102  LOTD Exterior Fixes.esp
103  Immersive Patrols II.esp
104  iNeed.esp
105  Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp
106  Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
107  Ars Metallica.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
108  DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
109  DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
10A  DBM_AOS_Patch.esp
10B  DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
10C  DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp  [Version 1.6+]
10D  DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp
10E  Animated Immersive Weaps.esp
10F  MCoW_AIOverhaul.esp
110  MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp
111  USMP - Cutting Room Floor.esp
112  CS_Jenassa.esp
113  Growl-MortalEnemies Patch.esp
114  ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_WACCF_Patch.esp
115  DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
116  NPCsSwim.esp
117  USMP - Combat Gameplay Overhaul patch.esp
118  OrcFemaleAnimations.esp
119  Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
11A  HouseOfHorrorsQuestExpansion.esp
11B  Skyland Watercolor - Slow Green-Vanilla.esp
11C  Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp
11D  Occ_Skyrim_CuttinRoomFloor.esp
11E  College Of Winterhold - Quest Expansion.esp
11F  ForgottenCity.esp
120  3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
121  JBMod.esp
122  Sneak Tools.esp
123  Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
124  Skyland-AIO.esp
125  Chambers.esp
126  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
127  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
128  WACCF_SneakTools_Patch.esp
129  Marc.esp
12A  3DNPC - MAS.esp
12B  Rotmulaag.esp
12C  BGtheCapturedFairies.esp
12D  DBM_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
12E  Nilheim_MiscQuestExpansion.esp
12F  Caught Red Handed - Quest Expansion.esp
130  AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
131  DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp
132  Occ_Skyrim-Legacy_of_Dragonborn_patch.esp
133  IW_AIOverhaul_Patch.esp
134  CS_Adrianne.esp
135  CS_Olfina.esp
136  CS_Njada.esp
137  CS_Ria.esp
138  CS_Aela.esp
139  3DNPC - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
13A  ClockworkBugFixes.esp  [Version 2.2.0]
13B  ClockworkSuperiorSorting.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
13C  ClockworkShadowmarksMerged.esp
13D  DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp
13E  DBM_IA_Patch.esp
13F  DBM_SkyrimSewers_Patch.esp
140  MCoW_CampfirePatch.esp
141  Wintersun MAS Patch.esp
142  OPrivacy.esp
143  Project AHO - 3DNPC.esp
144  ClockworkPlantableAddon.esp
145  Ars Metallica - LSC Patch.esp
146  USMP - WACCF patch.esp
147  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
148  Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp
149  Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
14A  3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp
14B  Rubys_SS_SaS_Patch.esp
14C  GDOS - Glorious Solitude Door - Rotation Fix.esp
14D  timescale6.esp
14E  Thief Experience.esp  [Version 1.0]
14F  Tonal Architect.esp
150  Campfire_More_Heat_Source.esp
151  TimingIsEverything.esp  [Version 2.2]
152  UIExtensions.esp
153  VampireLordsCanFly.esp
154  Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Obsidian Weathers Patch.esp
155  Wintersun - ZIA Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
156  SOSRaceMenu.esp
157  XPMSE.esp
158  SinkOrSwim.esp
159  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
15A  KSWigsSMP.esp
15B  KSHairdosSMP.esp
15C  KS Hairdo's.esp
15D  Frostfall - Experience Patch.esp
15E  Hunterborn - Experience Patch.esp
15F  Frostfall Vampire Fix.esp
160  Marc-BaseArcaneBows.esp
161  CRH_USSEP Patch.esp
162  DeadlyDragons.esp
163  FNIS.esp
164  TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
165  VASynth_Voices.esp
166  Spellsiphon.esp
167  HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
168  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp
169  Realistic Dog Sounds.esp
16A  Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
16B  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) Immersive World Encounters.esp
16C  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) Cutting Room Floor.esp
16D  Spellsiphon - Bound Dagger Anim Fix.esp
16E  MfgFix.esp
16F  Honed Metal Voiced.esp
170  USMP - Generic Mannequin patch.esp
171  USMP - RDO patch.esp
172  Archery Tweaks.esp
173  DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
174  Simple Wearable Lanterns Fixes.esp
175  ClockworkWoodWhimWR.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
176  ClockworkWoodWhimWWMount.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
177  Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp
178  The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
179  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) Immersive Wenches.esp
17A  RaceMenuMorphsHIMBO.esp
17B  East Empire Strongbox Logo.esp
17C  Spellsiphon - Palm Ward.esp
17D  USMP - Timing is Everything patch.esp
17E  RotmulaagThunderchild.esp
17F  3DNPC - Fjona's Familiar Alternate Location.esp
180  AltStartRaceMenuActivator.esp
181  3DNPC1.esp
182  Spellsiphon - Book at Archmage.esp
183  DSI AOS ISC Patch.esp
184  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
185  SimplyKnock.esp
186  OStrap.esp
187  OSound.esp
188  ORomance.esp
189  oComfort.esp
18A  OWintersun.esp
18B  Immersive Wenches OStim.esp
18C  OVirginity.esp
18D  IndependentArsonistArmor.esp
18E  Imperial Quaestor Armor.esp
18F  3DNPC Imperious Patch.esp
190  FEC.esp
191  ImmersiveInteractions.esp
192  ProjectAHO - StartWhenYouWant.esp
193  Whiterun Tower - Mesh Fix.esp
194  WyrmstoothThunderchildPatch.esp
195  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) Wyrmstooth.esp
196  Collygon - Mage Hunter.esp
197  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) Moon and Star.esp
198  UmbralKnightArmor.esp
199  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) Project AHO.esp
19A  KSA_luckyadventurer.esp
19B  Deadly Dragons - Diverse Dragons Collection.esp
19C  Deadly Dragons - Wyrmstooth.esp
19D  Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
19E  Egil's Demon Hunter.esp
19F  SPERG_ApocalypsePatch.esp
1A0  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) The Forgotten City.esp
1A1  Forgotten City - Delayed Start.esp
1A2  Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
1A3  USMP - Imperious-Races of Skyrim patch.esp
1A4  Trade & Barter.esp  [Version 2.0]
1A5  DBM_TradeBarter_Patch.esp
1A6  Trade and Barter - USSEP Patch.esp
1A7  Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
1A8  Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
1A9  USMP - CACO Patch.esp
1AA  CACO_Wintersun.esp
1AB  SDA Wintersun Patch.esp
1AC  Hunterborn_CACO-SE_Patch.esp  [Version 2+]
1AD  Predator Vision.esp
1AE  CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp
1AF  CACO_Growl_Patch.esp
1B0  CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
1B1  DBM_CACO_Patch.esp
1B2  Predator Vision_CACO_Patch.esp
1B3  Hunterborn - Predator Vision Compatibilty Patch.esp
1B4  MysticOrdinator.esp
1B5  Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
1B6  Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
1B7  Sacrosanct_CACO_Patch.esp
1B8  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 4.1.4]
1B9  Alternate Start - Experience Patch.esp
1BA  Alternate Start - Bob's Interdimensional Chambers.esp
1BB  Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
1BC  Starting Spells LAL.esp
1BD  Modpocalypse NPCs (v2) ASLAL.esp
1BE  nwsFollowerFramework.esp
1BF  Odin - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp
1C0  CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp
1C1  Vokriinator Black - Apocalypse patch.esp
1C2  Vokriinator Black - Trade and Barter patch.esp
1C3  Vokriinator Black - Odin patch.esp
1C4  Vokriinator Black - CACO patch.esp
1C5  SDA NFF Patch.esp  [Version 6.0NFFPatch]
1C6  ELE_SSE.esp
1C7  ELE-ELFX Patch AIO.esp
1C8  ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp
1C9  ELE_SSE_CRF.esp
1CA  MCoW_ELE.esp
1CB  WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
1CC  Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp
1CD  IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
1CE  AQWMP_ELE_Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
1CF  50 More Perk Points.esp
1D0  VioLens SE.esp  [Version 2.30]
1D1  Smashed Patch.esp  [Version 2]

 

Other than WACCF, i have Skyland (unsure if that affects weapons or not) and SMIM.  Also have Legacy of the Dragonborn..,  nothing would surprise me with that that mod... it has a ton of little tweaks.  For weapons mods I use Immersive Weapons and Legendary Skyrim Crossbows and Bows. 

 

The wierd thing is that the CTD doesnt happen all the time.... but just sometimes.  It seems to always happen with an npc named GORR who is added by 3DNPCs.  No idea if that has anything to do with anything.

 

 

 

[traison]

4 hours ago, Jotasran said:

unsure if that affects weapons or not

 

Your mod manager knows, if it doesn't, it's time to change.

 

In MO2:

1. Find the Data tab on the right side.
2. Browse to the nif path you located earlier: weapons/iron/warhammer.nif
3. If it is there, your problem is most likely in the "Mod" column.
4. If it's not there, this could still be a texture issue like chaimhewast said.

Textures used by the vanilla iron warhammer.nif:

1. textures\blood\BloodHitDecals01.dds

2. textures\blood\BloodHitDecals01Add.dds

3. textures\blood\BloodHitDecals01_n.dds

4. textures\cubemaps\EyeCubeMap.dds

5. textures\weapons\iron\IronWarhammer.dds

6. textures\weapons\iron\IronWarhammer_n.dds

7. textures\cubemaps\ShinyDull_e.dds

8. textures\weapons\iron\IronWarhammer_em.dds

[Jotasran]

I don't suppose you know how to do this in Vortex?  I tried MO2 some time back and WIndow 11 pro borked the game..  I can revisit that if absolutely needed, but have some reservations. 

[traison]

Well I'm a bit confused about what state Vortex actually is in right now. NMM used to use some form of NTFS links to build the mod setup directly into your Data directory. It looked like the files were actually there, but in reality they were somewhere else. MO2 uses a VFS which does not require messing with links, and thus the Data directory remains empty (except for the vanilla stuff). Some years ago, one of (or "the") developer of MO2 was bought up by Vortex presumably to move Vortex away from links to instead use a VFS (details on this may be wrong, don't quote). So with that said, I don't know if vortex is still stumbling around with links or if it has moved on. Sometimes we get posts here on this forum with Vortex users with the most bizzare issues, such as files from deleted mods sticking around, and mods only getting partially installed. These issues used to be typical to NMM, and the linking method it was using.

 

So, either you can find your files in the vanilla skyrim data directory, or if that one is suspiciously empty then Vortex has finally moved on and its keeping all mod files somewhere else. If it's the latter I'd assume there would be a consolidated view somewhere, but if there isn't you'd have to go through each mod separately.

 

If you find all your mods in one convenient directory, you could use cmd to search through all mods quickly. Probably save you an hour of searching:

dir /S /B | findstr warhammer.nif

 

Edit: Considering Microsoft is trying to get rid of cmd, its just a matter of time before they hide it somewhere people can't find it. PowerShell should work in its place, as it should have aliases for most cmd commands by default.

Edited November 22, 2022 by traison

[Jotasran]

Pretty positive that the the files are in the Data directory.  I've put files directly into that directory in the past and Vortex picks it up (though keeps it inactive).  I'll try tonight when I get back from work.

[Jotasran]

 

OK.. the search came up with this.  Not sure what to do with this info or if its helpful at all.

 

c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data>dir /s /b | findstr warhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\erbos\weapons\bonemold\bonemoldwarhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\erbos\weapons\chitin\1stpersonwarhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\erbos\weapons\chitin\warhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\Hunterborn\weapons\Ghosu - Horker\warhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\weapons\baratheon\robertwarhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\weapons\Ghosu - Horker\warhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\wulfharth\weapons\dragonbone\1stpersondragonbonewarhammer.nif
c:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\meshes\wulfharth\weapons\dragonbone\dragonbonewarhammer.nif

[traison]

None match "weapons/iron/warhammer.nif". Now do the same for all textures I mentioned a few posts back.

[Jotasran]

Ok. I searched the directory for

 

bloodhitdecal01

bloodhitdecals01

BloodHitDecals01.dds

BloodHitDecals01Add.dds

EyeCubeMap

ShinyDull

warhammer

 

Warhammer obviously returned some stuff, but the previous 6 searches didn't.

 

 

[traison]

Then it has to be some other change made to the WEAP record by either ISC or WACCF. Also you could do a sanity check to make sure the iron warhammer you have in your inventory is actually the WEAP record you're looking at in xEdit:

prid 14
inv

 

Edit: Oh, followers inventory... replace "prid 14" with the follower.

Edited November 24, 2022 by traison

[Jotasran]

Ok, I'll do that.

 

Wouldn't such a change to the weapon consistently cause problems?  I went back and tried to replicate the error and it wasn't triggering. 

 

Which leads to the question of if it's reasonable to have crashes in modded Skyrim or can it reasonably be reduced to no crashes?  In other words, occasional crashes (maybe one every hour or two) harmless beyond the obvious periodic annoyance... or are they indicative of a problem with will likely get worse?

[traison]

Only crashes I've had in SSE have been my own fault. LE is a different story...

 

Also if you can open the inventory sometimes, but not always then I have no ideas.

[Jotasran]

I have other problems and feel like there is something fundamentally wrong with my setup.  I had another crash and thought it was audio overhaul (base on the net script log).  I updated it and it borked my savegame.  Anywho... I'm going through Wrye bash and make some changes base on those recommendations.    I'm going to try to see if that fixes the new crash (ZIM modified dawnbreaker in physicial combat).  If not, I may be back with another crashlog. 

[traison]

You'll never find the reason for a crash in the papyrus log. That one is used for debugging scripts during development, and perhaps spotting problematic scripts and script lag issues.